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RE: So what does everyone think of the 250 price tag?
« Reply #25 on: October 04, 2006, 10:06:02 PM »
and just think of the free mouth to mouth advertisement...then when they lower the price they'll give it some slight improvement...and a sleeker slicker design!
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RE: So what does everyone think of the 250 price tag?
« Reply #26 on: October 05, 2006, 03:08:26 AM »
Did anyone complain last gen when we were paying MORE for less grapihcs?
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RE: So what does everyone think of the 250 price tag?
« Reply #27 on: October 05, 2006, 03:35:06 AM »
The gamecube was £179. It got dropped all the way to £69, where they are still making a profit. Rip off launch price. Wii is £179. If it's £150 (NOT 149) that would be a killer price, especially given youcan get a second remote and a second game for £210.
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RE: So what does everyone think of the 250 price tag?
« Reply #28 on: October 05, 2006, 04:55:04 AM »
They should just launch it at thirty five cents so they can finally go bankrupt.
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RE:So what does everyone think of the 250 price tag?
« Reply #29 on: October 05, 2006, 04:56:36 AM »
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Well I am a consumer AND on the internet. So I'm like super important here. I want it for $99. Will Wii crash and burn if they don't cater to my demands? That would be interesting, but no.

Matt's comments are the same ones we've heard for the last 2 weeks.

Wii will sell out. PS3 will sell out. There is no quantifiable stealing of sales through price undercutting at this point. Supply is already effectively gone for both. If one person doesn't buy it, someone else will. Net difference = none.

That being said, I don't think Nintendo will quickly drop the price either. That bait and switch would piss off early adopters, as well as imply the product is having problems. If people are buying it at $250, and they will, there's no reason to drop the price. Would more people buy it at $199? Yes, of course, but they're not even close to a price race yet. It will probably stay at $250 at least until next fall, or unless 360 core drops in price (which itself is not expected for a while yet either).

While most people expected something much closer to $200, they also have to get over the knee-jerk "freak out" reactions. It's STILL cheaper than the other systems by $50 to $350. $199 is a good mainstream price but it's not a magic bullet. It didn't help them in previous generations. If anything, they are still in better shape because last gen there was only a $100 difference between all of them.

What do I personally think of the price? A bit sucky but tolerable. The controller prices are what really suck. (But I also remember Nintendo dropping the price of their controllers from $35 to $25 soon after GCN launch...)


I agree with BigJim.  That being said.  I will also add that you can't buy a consumer ready to go right out of the box piece of hardware that does just what the Wii-Channels do alone.  Without even taking the game playing into account.  If we weren't getting the channels and if we weren't getting the browser for free because of being earlier adopters/guinea pigs  then I might be a little dismayed.  Since we are I think its a Super Deal.  Especially as a replacement for my defective Cube.

(Though I do hope for a price drop for the controllers soon.  Even though I know that out of the whole system the Wiimote has been stated as the most problematic piece to produce.)
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RE: So what does everyone think of the 250 price tag?
« Reply #30 on: October 05, 2006, 05:48:19 AM »
this topic is 5 minutes too expensive, and 2 weeks too late
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RE: So what does everyone think of the 250 price tag?
« Reply #31 on: October 05, 2006, 07:35:48 AM »
I don't understand why everyone is bitching so much.

I have yet to play a Wii, but from what I've read and seen, my percieved value for this machine is at least $300 (without WiiSports).

Why you ask?

Well, the Xbox 360 can get away with a $300 price tag because of HD graphics and crap. So why can't the Wii do the same except with a new immersive way to control videogames?

First off which one would you rather have more? HD or Wiimote? If you said Wiimote, than wouldn't you pay more for it than HD?

You guys are getting way ahead of yourselves.
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RE:So what does everyone think of the 250 price tag?
« Reply #32 on: October 05, 2006, 08:00:20 AM »
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RE: So what does everyone think of the 250 price tag?
« Reply #33 on: October 05, 2006, 08:21:58 AM »
The price was deceptive because Nintendo said "under $250" and then set the price to $249.99.  The price has been upseting because Nintendo pretty much tricked us.  I think in Canada the price is good.  It's lower than the Cube was.  I think it probably should be a little lower in America.  They apparently are making a profit on it and considering they're selling us a Gamecube with a new controller I think they should break even on the hardware and make money off of the games.  Gimping our hardware so that THEY can make more profit isn't very nice.

The controller price is the bigger issue.  $60 is completely f*cking ridiculous.
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RE:So what does everyone think of the 250 price tag?
« Reply #34 on: October 05, 2006, 10:12:57 AM »
I see no problem with Nintendo making a profit, as long as I get my money's worth. I'm getting that at $250 with Wii Sports packed in. The Japanese are getting it at $215 with no pack-in. Seems fair enough to me.

But yeah... the controllers... Why is NOA charging $5 more for each than Japan? In Japan the total price comes to about 5600 yen... which is cheaper than the $60 we pay. Why NOA why? Just drop the prices for $5 for each item and you'll be in good territory!

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RE: So what does everyone think of the 250 price tag?
« Reply #35 on: October 05, 2006, 10:14:54 AM »
This topic is 5 months late but I'll rabidly type out my response anyway! I think before E3 I guessed they could get away with $225 since it would fall a bit below 250. I was kinda right since I wasn't expecting to be forced to pay for a tech demo. An extra $50 from each 4 million early birds is an extra 200 million to defeat MS and Sony, so I will gladly pay my admission. It's just sad that even though they kept saying they'd be out before PS3 and even after Sony's multitudinous trips, even with such huge shipment numbers they now choose to be days late. 0 for 2 on truthiness. They are conditioning their core to believe the opposite of everything they say, which will soon consume forums such as this with enmity.
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RE:So what does everyone think of the 250 price tag?
« Reply #36 on: October 05, 2006, 11:55:21 AM »
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RE: So what does everyone think of the 250 price tag?
« Reply #37 on: October 05, 2006, 12:21:37 PM »
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The price was deceptive because Nintendo said "under $250" and then set the price to $249.99. The price has been upseting because Nintendo pretty much tricked us.

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You've GOT to be joking. "Under $250" wasn't something they pulled out of their arse for fanboys to "pleasantly surprise" them with a cheaper price, it was the only realistic possibility Nintendo could give investors.
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RE:So what does everyone think of the 250 price tag?
« Reply #38 on: October 05, 2006, 02:08:09 PM »
And I've said this many times before, but I guess I'll say it again... It was a JAPANESE press conference! That's where they announced this ceiling price, and it was in YEN! Someone did a rough conversion and it came out to $250 US. Now, in Japan the console is well below the ceiling price ($212 US), so what they said was perfectly fine. They never said anything at all about the price in North America, so you shouldn't have been expecting that..
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RE:So what does everyone think of the 250 price tag?
« Reply #39 on: October 05, 2006, 02:12:28 PM »
Yes they did... after the Japanese price ceiling announcement, people asked the same things of NOA, who themselves stuck to a $250 price ceiling.

Either way, it's interesting to see that this was an announcement that had to suit Business concerns AS WELL AS be viewed under the scrutiny of raving internet fanbois. I really don't think we have ANYONE to blame but ourselves, since cooler heads know that when a business man says "less than $250" they really mean "$249.99."

This is what every non-fanboy I told the Wii ceiling price news to responded with immediately, that it's basically $249.99. I'm sorta happy now that I didn't argue with them.

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RE: So what does everyone think of the 250 price tag?
« Reply #40 on: October 05, 2006, 02:13:48 PM »
Telling us to look to Nintendo's history for pricing guidance was not exactly honest. Every system has been $200. They've also undershot their initial pricing in at least some of those cases too, as both GCN and N64 were forecasted as "under $250" before making their prices official.

It wasn't entirely above board, but in any case it's not that bad.

Anyway, what's sorta funny is how people complained about GCN being so cheap it was disregarded as a toy. Well there's the price increase they wanted. Congrats.  
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« Reply #41 on: October 05, 2006, 02:47:30 PM »
They said "if you look at the past, we have always had a reasonable price compared to our competitors"....
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« Reply #42 on: October 05, 2006, 02:55:42 PM »
My insider told me until the day the price got revealed that it would be $200, and that once it was $250, he told me that night that "it must have changed in the last few days."

So I think it was meant to be $200 for a long time, but someone pointed out "we can make it $250 and make a profit off the bat."

If anyone else had insider information prior to the price release, they should speak up.  I'm just carrying on the information I had prior to that point, and I was very, very surprised it wasn't $200.
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RE:So what does everyone think of the 250 price tag?
« Reply #43 on: October 05, 2006, 03:03:22 PM »
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The price was deceptive because Nintendo said "under $250" and then set the price to $249.99.  The price has been upseting because Nintendo pretty much tricked us.  I think in Canada the price is good.  It's lower than the Cube was.  I think it probably should be a little lower in America.  They apparently are making a profit on it and considering they're selling us a Gamecube with a new controller I think they should break even on the hardware and make money off of the games.  Gimping our hardware so that THEY can make more profit isn't very nice.

The controller price is the bigger issue.  $60 is completely f*cking ridiculous.


Don't buy it then. Pretty simple!

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RE:So what does everyone think of the 250 price tag?
« Reply #44 on: October 05, 2006, 03:09:16 PM »
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My insider told me until the day the price got revealed that it would be $200, and that once it was $250, he told me that night that "it must have changed in the last few days."

So I think it was meant to be $200 for a long time, but someone pointed out "we can make it $250 and make a profit off the bat."

If anyone else had insider information prior to the price release, they should speak up.  I'm just carrying on the information I had prior to that point, and I was very, very surprised it wasn't $200.


Given that Japan went ahead with $215 tax included, that sounds very likely. NOA must've felt that a higher price for "value perception" and a pack-in game was of importance, hence their version of the bundle... wait, is Europe geting Wii Sports packed-in too? Yes, right?

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« Reply #45 on: October 05, 2006, 04:03:52 PM »
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They said "if you look at the past, we have always had a reasonable price compared to our competitors"....


Iwata said, "What we've been repeatedly saying is that it's going to be an affordable price point, and when we say affordable, you may want to check our past records of price points, launching price points for any past hardware."
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RE: So what does everyone think of the 250 price tag?
« Reply #46 on: October 05, 2006, 07:05:05 PM »
Have you got the link? I'm pretty sure he said what I just said..
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