Author Topic: Bioshock (Read 68000 times)

Mashiro · « **Reply #225 on:** September 01, 2007, 03:41:08 PM »

So in reality there is really no need at all for NWR or any gaming site for that matter. We should all just try ever game before we really decide about it.

Guys I'm going out to get Superman 64, ET for Atari and Nighttrap on the Sega CD. I'll be back in a bit.

actually I can't even list Nighttrap on that list...since I did play it and it was awful.

that Baby guy · « **Reply #226 on:** September 01, 2007, 03:51:24 PM »

Yeah, why do we spend time reading reviews, watching previews, playing demos, and reading general opinion, anyways? I think I do it because I'm stupid.

UERD · « **Reply #227 on:** September 01, 2007, 03:58:18 PM »

Yeah, why are we on forums talking about games? Come back in two weeks with a fully cited doctoral dissertation regarding the hidden feminist themes found within Metroid Prime 3, and then we'll consider you 'informed'.

Kairon · « **Reply #228 on:** September 01, 2007, 04:36:02 PM »

You know what, one day I picked up a romance novel on a whim. It was called "Sapphire Sky" by Kirsten James and had one of those semi-cheesy illustrated covers, but not too cheesy. I should scan it and put it up here.

It was one of the best reads I've had in years.

Mashiro · « **Reply #229 on:** September 01, 2007, 04:38:07 PM »

I greatly enjoyed reading the love hina manga series. . . which is kinda a romance novel not really but it was still a good romantic comedy.

Kairon · « **Reply #230 on:** September 01, 2007, 04:45:35 PM »

Love Hina is one of the things I'm resolutely sure I'll NOT enjoy. &P

I'm an anime bah humbug.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #231 on:** September 01, 2007, 04:52:40 PM »

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Originally posted by: Sessha
I'm chiming in a bit late but I don't think Evan was completely wrong. Hearing about something and actually doing something are two different things. When you hear about something it comes with a person's own personal Bias. It's how they felt about the game and how much they enjoyed it or the faults they found with it. You can draw your own opinions from reading about a game and watching it but not in the same way that you actually played it. I wasn't that excited for Bioshock when it was released but I did decide to rent it. I logged 8 or 9 hours into the game and I wasn't too impressed. I didn't feel compelled to play it or find it earth shattering. I wanted to quit around hour 1 but I gave it the benefit of the doubt. I've never voiced my opinion about a game if I haven't tried it. Even if it gets horrible reviews I usually rent it. And GP attacking someone right back doesn't solve anything.

I think I played that barbie game thatguy. My sister got that for Christmas one year. I remember driving a pink car and sadly dressing up barbie.

Yeah never defend your friends against blatant rude attacks. Seriously you have to make deteriminations based on readings and watching videos, you cannot play everything, so you must deterimine what you may be interested in. Let's say someone doesn't like RPGS, are they ignorant because they don't want to play the next RPG and know it will not be something they would enjoy? Of course not, that was retarded to play something that you've determined, through previous experience with a related item is not in your realm of likes and dislikes. It is not that hard to analyze what a game is like through a combination of reviews, descriptions and gameplay videos, chances are you will know if you are interested in it or not based off that.

To wrap this up,it is Evan's seeming contradiction that really is at faut. He is someone that proports to wanting people to defend their opinions, yet most people know you don't do that through being rude and condescending. It is a contradiction that someone who complains about people not knowing how to defend their opinions, yet insults them which will in turn most likely put them on personal defense mode where nothing gets accomplished.

Kairon · « **Reply #232 on:** September 01, 2007, 04:59:06 PM »

Knowledge will never be perfect. It's up to each person to ensure that their knowledge on important subjects is as thorough as they can afford it to be. We shouldn't pretend to be anything more than humanly fallible.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #233 on:** September 01, 2007, 05:01:18 PM »

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Originally posted by: Kairon
Knowledge will never be perfect. It's up to each person to ensure that their knowledge on important subjects is as thorough as they can afford it to be. We shouldn't pretend to be anything more than humanly fallible.

Unless you are me of course!

Mashiro · « **Reply #234 on:** September 01, 2007, 05:57:18 PM »

Maybe I should go out, get a 2 dollar copy of killer7, play it, THEN say how bad it is and say "man I was right, this game looked like crap, is crap and well yeah it's crap! Awesome!".

Then we can move on to how "Zomg Mashiro sucks for not liking Killer7! He doesn't like deep games! He has no SOUL! OFF WITH HIS HEAD WITCH WITCH"!

Come on you know you guys want to . . .

Kairon · « **Reply #235 on:** September 01, 2007, 06:14:56 PM »

Sounds good to me!

Kairon · « **Reply #236 on:** September 01, 2007, 06:47:01 PM »

Here we go. If I can read contemporary romance, maybe you can play Killer 7!

Actually, if you can find a $3 copy of Killer 7, you'll have spent less than I spent on this book.

Mashiro · « **Reply #237 on:** September 01, 2007, 06:53:59 PM »

That book cover is rated M for mature!

(The Golden Sky, The Sapphire Sky. . . is there a Blue Sky and Red Sky version too ? ahhh I kid I kid).

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #238 on:** September 01, 2007, 07:56:17 PM »

Why oh why did Evan have to derail the thread again! I had it back on track with Bioshock and there he comes to mess everything up!

Svevan · « **Reply #239 on:** September 01, 2007, 08:17:57 PM »

I don't think I ever derailed the thread, honestly. =)

But for serious, as much as I love these discussions being entirely about me (no really, I hate it), let's talk about Bioshock.

The control scheme is nice I guess.

ShyGuy · « **Reply #240 on:** September 01, 2007, 08:25:01 PM »

My Cousin has been playing Bioshock on the 360. I think the PC version looks a bit better, but that could just be the resolution.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #241 on:** September 02, 2007, 10:15:49 AM »

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My Cousin has been playing Bioshock on the 360. I think the PC version looks a bit better, but that could just be the resolution.

Yeah the PC version does look better than the 360 one, but then again that depends on your hardware, I know DX10 adds some visual flare, even if it is limited. Regardless I think the game is gorgeous, and that opening scene was one of the coolest scenes I've ran across in gaming.

P.S. Not reading Evan's post, I choose to remain ignorant and will be the one to end this argument.

Update:

Guess it wasn't something to avoid

that Baby guy · « **Reply #242 on:** September 02, 2007, 10:22:16 AM »

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I don't think I ever derailed the thread, honestly. =)

But for serious, as much as I love these discussions being entirely about me (no really, I hate it), let's talk about Bioshock.

The control scheme is nice I guess.

I think you've got a CD stuck in your head.

UERD · « **Reply #243 on:** September 02, 2007, 11:05:36 AM »

Because GP used her Borg-cyborg-assimilation powers to turn an XBox 360 DVD drive into a Flaming-CDs-of-Death-Launcher capable of launching Flaming-CDs-of-Death across the endless bounds of cyberspace to effect grievious bodily damage to an Internet person sitting at a computer thousands of miles away!

Anyways, as I was saying the system requirements are too high for me. Also, they have the nasty copy protection that they've promised to remove in the future.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #244 on:** September 02, 2007, 11:19:06 AM »

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Originally posted by: UERD
Because GP used her Borg-cyborg-assimilation powers to turn an XBox 360 DVD drive into a Flaming-CDs-of-Death-Launcher capable of launching Flaming-CDs-of-Death across the endless bounds of cyberspace to effect grievious bodily damage to an Internet person sitting at a computer thousands of miles away!

Anyways, as I was saying the system requirements are too high for me. Also, they have the nasty copy protection that they've promised to remove in the future.

Can you elaborate a bit more on the copy protection thing? I didn't notice anything terrible about it.

UERD · « **Reply #245 on:** September 02, 2007, 11:38:33 AM »

I'll just quote Wiki's Bioshock article, they have sources.

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When BioShock was released, the client only allowed for two installations and required an Internet connection in order to activate the product. Due to criticism, this limit has been increased to five activations. After the five activation limit is reached, the user must manually activate the product again via telephone support due to a new version of the content protection system known as SecuROM.

2K Games has responded to the criticism by stating that a special-purpose pre-uninstallation utility that will refund activation slots to a user will be developed and made available in the future.[52] If the yet-to-be-released application is not used before uninstalling the game, SecuROM considers the player to still be using the game, and the activation is unrecoverable without contacting SecuROM and sending them a picture of the DVD and the booklet with the CD key in order to get a new key or deactivate old installations.

The SecuROM system has also caused problems with running specific utilities and other games that use similar protection systems, see Securom for more. Microsoft's RootkitRevealer software tool also identifies SecuROM as a possible rootkit due to the insertion of null keys into the registry that cannot be removed using the limited Registry Editor.[53] These keys remain on the system even after BioShock and SecuROM are uninstalled,[54] with SecuROM currently providing no means to delete the registry keys, instead one may use Microsoft's RegDelNull to remove the registry keys. However, according to Ken Levine what is installed on the user's system is not a rootkit.[55]...

The Bioshock demo also installs SecuROM.[57] The SecuROM software remains on the system with no option for uninstallation, even if the demo itself is removed.[58]

Ken Levine, lead designer for the game, stated that the game's copy protection will be removed at some undisclosed point in the future.[59]

Kairon · « **Reply #246 on:** September 02, 2007, 11:46:30 AM »

I hope I NEVER have to deal with any such issues EVER.

Good to see that Irrational Studios is doing the RIGHT thing and removing this horribly frightful security scheme.

BranDonk Kong · « **Reply #247 on:** September 02, 2007, 04:45:53 PM »

Bioshock is currently the #3 game of all time on gamerankings.com

Mashiro · « **Reply #248 on:** September 02, 2007, 06:04:03 PM »

That list isn't very accurate . . .

Older games with fewer reviews aren't represented well.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #249 on:** September 02, 2007, 06:11:46 PM »

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Bioshock is currently the #3 game of all time on gamerankings.com

Now that I find ridiculous, Bioshock may be a great game but it isn't even close to the top 5 much less the top 10!

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Author Topic: Bioshock (Read 68000 times)