Author Topic: Suda's HEROES First Footage! (Read 32558 times)

Mario · « **Reply #75 on:** September 23, 2006, 11:10:35 PM »

Well this isn't exactly a sequel, it's a completley different thing.

Smoke39 · « **Reply #76 on:** September 23, 2006, 11:24:06 PM »

Sales expectations asside, I think it's pretty exciting how allegedly perfect the Wii's controller is for the game. I'm interested to see what exactly they have planned. And the visual presentation is just plain awesome.

wandering · « **Reply #77 on:** September 23, 2006, 11:27:25 PM »

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This is why Hereos is going to have a hard time archieving huge sales since right now it's a game that appeals to a niche market.

But perhaps if there are....lightsaber battles? Could that be the reason for his optimism?

KDR_11k · « **Reply #78 on:** September 24, 2006, 12:26:21 AM »

I don't think this is going to be much like Killer 7.

Kairon · « **Reply #79 on:** September 24, 2006, 11:46:34 AM »

Gonna need better english voice acting if he wants to hit a million.

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wandering · « **Reply #80 on:** September 24, 2006, 12:43:09 PM »

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Gonna need better english voice acting if he wants to hit a million.

Why's that?

Viewtiful mario · « **Reply #81 on:** September 24, 2006, 12:56:58 PM »

This game being connected to Killer 7 is only speculation, and besides it's not like you have to know about killer 7 to find out about this game. I heard that there going to turn down the bloodshed and languege for this game so it appeals to more people.

Dirk Temporo · « **Reply #82 on:** September 24, 2006, 01:18:44 PM »

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Originally posted by: Viewtiful mario
This game being connected to Killer 7 is only speculation, and besides it's not like you have to know about killer 7 to find out about this game. I heard that there going to turn down the bloodshed and languege for this game so it appeals to more people.

I'd rather it sell like crap than they do that. Killer7 was one of the few truly mature titles of last generation, and I'd hate for them to change Heroes just to appeal to more people.

EDIT: I just watched the new trailer, and I can't stand it. The music is crap, and something is lost with Helter Skelter not losing his head.

Alexander_Sin · « **Reply #83 on:** September 24, 2006, 03:08:18 PM »

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EDIT: I just watched the new trailer, and I can't stand it. The music is crap, and something is lost with Helter Skelter not losing his head.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels like this. Helter's head popping off and the old music were much better.

Karl Castaneda #2 · « **Reply #84 on:** September 24, 2006, 05:33:49 PM »

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Killer7 was one of the few truly mature titles of last generation, and I'd hate for them to change Heroes just to appeal to more people.

YES. I've been telling people this for over a year now.

As for Heroes, it' got SUDA-san. That's all I need to know.

IceCold · « **Reply #85 on:** September 24, 2006, 05:53:16 PM »

Viewtiful is a mature 16 year-old.

Karl Castaneda #2 · « **Reply #86 on:** September 24, 2006, 06:09:10 PM »

Seventeen, Ice. Seventeen.

It's not my fault I seem young in the presence of the geezers who make up the rest of the staff.

Smoke39 · « **Reply #87 on:** September 24, 2006, 07:22:03 PM »

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I'd rather it sell like crap than they do that. Killer7 was one of the few truly mature titles of last generation, and I'd hate for them to change Heroes just to appeal to more people.

I agree. It's kind of like censoring anime in the US. I don't like the creator's original intent being modified for the sake of broader appeal.

Svevan · « **Reply #88 on:** September 24, 2006, 07:43:15 PM »

I watch censored dubbed anime.

wandering · « **Reply #89 on:** September 24, 2006, 07:45:49 PM »

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I'd rather it sell like crap than they do that. Killer7 was one of the few truly mature titles of last generation, and I'd hate for them to change Heroes just to appeal to more people.

I agree. It's kind of like censoring anime in the US. I don't like the creator's original intent being modified for the sake of broader appeal.

Since the creators, in this case, are the ones doing the censoring, not really.

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #90 on:** September 24, 2006, 07:53:07 PM »

Usually the creator (who generally does a manga) has VERY little control over an anime, particularly when it's being localized in another country...

wandering · « **Reply #91 on:** September 24, 2006, 08:00:54 PM »

No, I meant, Suda, the creator of Heros, is censoring his own game, and so this situation is not really comparable to the censorship of anime, where the creators don't have much control, as you say.

Smoke39 · « **Reply #92 on:** September 24, 2006, 08:11:58 PM »

It could be pressure from people concerned about the game's appeal. Or if he's really doing it on his own accord, it could be that while he wants it one way, he could see the benefit of toning it down for greater appeal, and self-censoring, which is still censoring.
Or maybe he just changed his mind.

Svev: I'm not your friend anymore.

ShyGuy · « **Reply #93 on:** September 24, 2006, 09:21:23 PM »

Is self-censoring wrong? cause if I didn't self censor, I would call my boss bad names and get fired.

Smoke39 · « **Reply #94 on:** September 24, 2006, 09:32:00 PM »

I don't like any amount of self-censoring. I personally think communication is limited enough by language to be further muddled on purpose.

Either way, though, this is art we're talking about, not everyday life. While people's expectations might make it difficult to never self-censor at least a little bit and still function in society, art shouldn't be concerned with such things. If art isn't available for unbridled expression, what else is?

Hostile Creation · « **Reply #95 on:** September 24, 2006, 11:10:18 PM »

Self-censoring can be a valuable resource. Some of the best art and literature comes from forcing yourself not to say certain things. Creating is just as much about not saying as it is about saying.
I don't think the game needs to be violent and bloody to be good. I think it will be both of those things even if they do censor it some, and it'll at least be teen (I still expect mature, just not the bloodbath Killer 7 was), but censoring one's self can be put to good use.
It's certainly better than being censored by someone else, when the creator can't choose what is important and what isn't.

Smoke39 · « **Reply #96 on:** September 24, 2006, 11:17:25 PM »

I guess you have a point, but that sort of depends on how you choose to distinguish between "self-censorship" and "choosing what is and isn't important."

Killer 7 rarely struck me as particularly bloody, actually, because the blood was usually so abstract and unrealistic. Sorta like the excessive blood sprays in Kill Bill. It seemed less like gore and more like a comical visual cue.

Terranigma Freak · « **Reply #97 on:** September 25, 2006, 07:38:17 AM »

Or maybe they "censored" the game because they actually made an animation error in the first trailer. Have you guys seen the first one? If you did, you would have noticed that Helter Skelter's head was still attached to his body in the original trailer despite the fact that he was decapitated. Check out the part where Sylvia comes in and kicks the dead body.

NEW TRAILER

http://www.gamevideos.com/video/id/6367

OLD TRAILER

http://youtube.com/watch?v=-UXdh1qKHmI

Look at 2:30 second into the trailer where Sylvia kicks Helter Skelter's body and you'll see it's still in one piece.

Also, Travis Touchdown's voice is different in the new trailer. His acting is slightly less cheesy/annoying, while the original one was more overly dramatic yet fitting for his face.

Dirk Temporo · « **Reply #98 on:** September 25, 2006, 09:35:19 AM »

It would've been easier to just make the head not move than to make the head stay attached, and remove the blood spray. Didn't Suda even SAY he was toning this stuff down to make it "more accessible"?

JonLeung · « **Reply #99 on:** September 25, 2006, 09:54:56 AM »

I remember showing the old trailer to my brother one day, and then a commercial for NBC's Heroes came up right after. Weird. (Doesn't that show start today?)

Can they name it that? If Biohazard had to become Resident Evil because of a rock band with that name or whatever, wouldn't Heroes have the same difficulty keeping its name because of the TV show?

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