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RE:Super Smash Bros. Brawl
« Reply #1725 on: May 23, 2007, 05:03:57 PM »
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Oh man, I just thought of something they should add...I hope you'll be able to take pictures in Photo Mode and then send them to other Wiis...


Of course that's going to be in there.  As long as they retain the snapshot functionality then it would be easy enough to either A) write them to a directory on an insterted flash card, or B) send them to the Wii Message Board.

Either of these options would let you use the Wii to send the picture to another Wii owner that you have in your Wii friend code list.

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I know we had "Young Link" in SSBM, but I wouldn't expect that number to increase.


What if they added an instant replay feature? Just something that let you rewind 10, 20 seconds into the past; allowing you to save videos at will (and even edit the time maybe?).

Maybe even allow you to post videos on the internet from the Wii browser. Nintendo could even host all of the day's most hilarious clips and even hold competitions that we could vote on from the Vote channel.
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RE:Super Smash Bros. Brawl
« Reply #1726 on: May 23, 2007, 05:06:16 PM »
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Oh man, I just thought of something they should add...I hope you'll be able to take pictures in Photo Mode and then send them to other Wiis...


I'd rather have picture mode be built into the normal game.

There have been many times when I wanted to take a shot which just happened to occur mid-fight and I just took a digital camera to the screen.

Why not just be able to take screen grabs with the push of a button after pausing?
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RE: Super Smash Bros. Brawl
« Reply #1727 on: May 23, 2007, 05:08:00 PM »
I've been thinking about it and there are many 3th party characters that would make me happy, but looking back at the NES games I used to play, I really would like simon belmont above the rest, it sucks they went with snake since I doubt they are going to get two konami characters when the number of non-nintendo characters is not going to be above 4.

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RE: Super Smash Bros. Brawl
« Reply #1728 on: May 23, 2007, 05:15:13 PM »
Yeah, Belmont would have made more sense.
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RE: Super Smash Bros. Brawl
« Reply #1729 on: May 23, 2007, 05:16:42 PM »
Mantidor:

I know what you mean.  There are several characters that are 3rd party I really want to see in the game.  But, really there aren't as many headliner Nintendo characters I want to see.

I mean there are tons of secondary Nintendo characters, that COULD work, but not that many headliners.

So if Brawl is meant to have several character additions...somewhere in the realm of 10-12 additional characters then I see more 3rd party characters than just 2 or 3.


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« Reply #1730 on: May 23, 2007, 05:35:22 PM »
Well I'm saying that because thats what Sakurai said, they were thinking of maybe 2--3 more third party characters at most, so with snake already in I think that megaman and sonic are the only logical options left... I mean at least sonic has to be sure thing, this game with snake and no sonic would be to bizarre to be true...oh crap I just got a really bad thought, what if that olimpics game was made to calm fans because sonic won't be in brawl afterall? :S

I'm really torn about that anyway, as much as I want more characters it really would stop being a smash game with too many of them, snake alone is already too much.



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RE:Super Smash Bros. Brawl
« Reply #1731 on: May 23, 2007, 06:05:57 PM »
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I've been thinking about it and there are many 3th party characters that would make me happy, but looking back at the NES games I used to play, I really would like simon belmont above the rest, it sucks they went with snake since I doubt they are going to get two konami characters when the number of non-nintendo characters is not going to be above 4.


I would think about it the other way around.  They already have a working agreement with them, and thus, they may use that for more than just one character.

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RE: Super Smash Bros. Brawl
« Reply #1732 on: May 23, 2007, 06:20:46 PM »
I like the instant replay and screen grab ideas. I have a picture of Zelda hitting the ground next to Luigi so it looks like he holding her legs open. It's awesome. I paused the game randomly so the picture is a one in a million shot. I had to take it with my phone because I don't have a digital camera.

I would've preferred a Belmont over Snake. The only reason Snake is even in the game is because Hideo Kojima asked. If Koji Igarashi asked, maybe we'd have a Belmont instead, granted one's not in Brawl already.

I think Nintendo's history is rich enough to provide Brawl with enough newcomers that 3rd party characters aren't needed. However, as long as 3rd party characters are there, I saw bring it. I don't think 3rd party characters makes Brawl less of a Smash Bros. title. I want as many new and unique characters as possible, 1st or 3rd party.

10-15 newcomers is a realistic estimate. I'd welcome more though.

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RE:Super Smash Bros. Brawl
« Reply #1733 on: May 23, 2007, 07:41:33 PM »
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Oh man, I just thought of something they should add...I hope you'll be able to take pictures in Photo Mode and then send them to other Wiis...


I'd rather have picture mode be built into the normal game.

There have been many times when I wanted to take a shot which just happened to occur mid-fight and I just took a digital camera to the screen.

Why not just be able to take screen grabs with the push of a button after pausing?


YES PLEASE. I've been saying that since SSBM came out. There's no reason they couldn't do it.
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RE: Super Smash Bros. Brawl
« Reply #1734 on: May 23, 2007, 08:05:35 PM »
So, the new update is an ITEM. How surprising. It's the first new thing we've heard about the game in quite some time. It looks like a fun, new item to me. It should be fun in 4-Player mode. It has some strategy about it.

Hopefully we'll see more later.  
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RE:Super Smash Bros. Brawl
« Reply #1735 on: May 23, 2007, 08:33:57 PM »
Anyone know what game the "Gooey Bomb" might be from, if any?

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RE: Super Smash Bros. Brawl
« Reply #1736 on: May 23, 2007, 11:24:31 PM »
None...Original item get!
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« Reply #1737 on: May 23, 2007, 11:59:46 PM »
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I wonder if this means they'll be showing 2 new characters every week until release now.  Because if it is then we can now get a good idea of how many characters will be in the game.

Since Nintendo's latest release shows this wont be coming out anytime between now and September, the earliest the game could come out is October.  Now there are exactly 18 more Wednesday's before the first Wednesday in October, meaning if you add Mario and Link to that, you'd have 38 characters total for a first week October release.

But I think closer to launch they might lower it to one character per week but still, if it goes like this it seems that the game will have an October release with what looks like somewhere around 40 characters.

Plus this actually makes sense since Nintendo has said Mario Galaxy will also come out this year.  Now Nintendo would never release both games too close to each other but two months apart sounds about right.  Which is why I'm seeing Smash Bros getting an October release while Mario gets a December release.

I'm going to go on the record now and say Smash Bros Brawl is going to be released on either October 15, 22, or 29th and have somewhere between 38 - 42 characters.


This assuming that they show hidden characters before the game is released, which they did not do for SSBM to the best of my recollection. I'm Guessing they are going to show the starters, which by my estimate will be between 12 and 16, but the optimistic (read: I do not want to get my hopes up) high end may be as big as 20 (which is not counting ZS Samus as a separate character, which they did for Shiek, which would bump up my estimation by one, not to mention if the old incarnation of Zelda/Shiek are in the game, are starters, and are each counted as separate as well). That number will probably include the original eight plus ZSS, the four known new characters (assuming Snake is a starter, which I feel he will be), and some random returning (probably non-clone) characters from SSBM to round out the opening roster. In fact I think that the opening roster is a topic that everyone should now start seriously (or as seriously as a game like this could and should be taken) discussing and guessing about.

All this says to me is that maybe the game will come out sooner then we expected or the Smash Bros. Dojo is going to run out of character based updates faster than we are going to want it to, untill the game is released that is.

I guess what I am trying to say is do not get your hopes up for a huge amount of character based updates, because you will probably be disappointed.

Take that from someone who used to hang out on the IGN forums (back before Insider, and back before I found Planet Gamecube) each Tuesday and Thursday and wait for the SSBM Page to update, gleam as much as I could from the pictures and broken Bable Fish translation as I could, discuss findings with everyone on the forum then wait a little longer for a fellow forum goer, whose name I believe was Zophar or Zohar, to translate the update and put it on the web (he even had the site setup to look exactly like the Japanese web site).

If I remember correctly there was about a month where no characters were even mentioned and the only updates would be on things like all the items as a whole, or trophies in  general, or something else not as cool as a character, and now it looks like they are going to talk about each stage, item, and mode separately, which should give us a whole boatload of non-character updates in the coming months, not to mention the music based updates, the updates for "how to Play", and whatever the "Notices" section is going to be for. So... where was I, oh yeah, just do not expect very many updates with character information.

That talk about hanging out on a forum just reminded me how long ago it was since SSBM came out. Has it really been six years?
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RE: Super Smash Bros. Brawl
« Reply #1738 on: May 24, 2007, 02:14:27 AM »
I really don't care what interviews said early in the development of the game.  

I am willing to bet there will be a total of 5 3rd party characters in the game...I can't for sure bet who they would be...but I would guess something like this:

Sonic
Snake
Mega Man
Bomber Man
Black Mage (or another classic Final Fantasy generic character.)

As for Nintendo characters, since we usually get main characters or very strong side characters I expect.

A fully revamped and unique Gannondorf, Olimar, Jill from Drill Dozer, and a new Pokemon character...but beyond that I dunno who to expect.

But that is a total of 10 new characters.

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RE: Super Smash Bros. Brawl
« Reply #1739 on: May 24, 2007, 02:45:23 AM »
"Jill from Drill Dozer"

Yes, please!

I also would expect a Dragon Quest character to be more likely than a Final Fantasy one, particularly since it appears to be Ninty-exclusive now...
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« Reply #1740 on: May 24, 2007, 02:58:57 AM »
Bill:  I am thinking it would be easier to do something like SquareEnix and Nintendo did in Mario Basketball.  Throw in more generic Square characters, but designed to be distinctively Square.  A Mage would be perfect for that...and could add new game play elements.  

As for the reason I believe there will be more 3rd party Characters than previously thought is that simply put things change.  That interview is over a year old commenting that 3rd party characters had been locked with only the potential of 1-2 more...and other 3rd parties hadn't even yet been contacted.  Since then we have learned a great deal about the scope and money Nintendo is throwing at this game.  I believe more classic 3rd party games will be incorporated.

As for why Jill will be added...we need a heavy female attacker.  A character that can attack with the big boys.  Plus, that mech would look freaking awesome in combat.


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« Reply #1741 on: May 24, 2007, 03:33:09 AM »
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Anyone know what game the "Gooey Bomb" might be from, if any?


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RE: Super Smash Bros. Brawl
« Reply #1742 on: May 24, 2007, 04:39:11 AM »
Punch Out, Star Tropics, Animal Crossing, Pikmin, just to name a few unrepresented Nintendo franchises.

I'm sure there are more I'm missing...
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RE: Super Smash Bros. Brawl
« Reply #1743 on: May 24, 2007, 04:47:14 AM »
Gooey bomb is obviously new.  I like the pictures they show.  The idea of it just makes me laugh.

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RE: Super Smash Bros. Brawl
« Reply #1744 on: May 24, 2007, 04:51:03 AM »
Pikmin:  Olimar
Punch Out: Lil Mac
Animal Crossing:  Just please No.  (I know I am a minority in this opinion but still.)
Star Tropics:  Potentially too obscure...not many people still remember this game.
Advanced/Battalion Wars:  Any of the main commandeers would be interesting.
Drill Doser: Jill
Pokemon: Any of the new main Pokemon characters that you start with...perhaps a trainer.

Into 3rd parties...here is my most likely list...not necessarily who I want to see.

Bomberman Bomber Man:  One of the oldest and most faithful characters to appear on the Nintendo systems, plus Hudson and Nintendo have a great relationship together.

Mega Man:  Another truly classic character that is instantly recognizable and still has a solid association with Nintendo

Other than that...I can't think of anymore Nintendo franchises that must be represented.

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RE: Super Smash Bros. Brawl
« Reply #1745 on: May 24, 2007, 05:00:58 AM »
If Game and Watch isn't too obscure, then all bets are off.
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RE: Super Smash Bros. Brawl
« Reply #1746 on: May 24, 2007, 05:17:49 AM »
Actually the Gooey Bomb looks a little like the Oozium from Advance Wars Duel Strike. Just a little.
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RE: Super Smash Bros. Brawl
« Reply #1747 on: May 24, 2007, 05:23:47 AM »
"Animal Crossing: Just please No. (I know I am a minority in this opinion but still.)"

Hey, some potentially hilariously items could be pulled from AC...Like a hive you throw at someone (AUGH BEES!) or pitfalls you could plant... =D

"Star Tropics: Potentially too obscure...not many people still remember this game."

It's not that he's obscure, it's that his two most notable weapons are...a bat and a yo-yo...Uh oh...

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« Reply #1748 on: May 24, 2007, 05:26:04 AM »
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I really don't care what interviews said early in the development of the game.  

I am willing to bet there will be a total of 5 3rd party characters in the game...I can't for sure bet who they would be...but I would guess something like this:

Sonic
Snake
Mega Man
Bomber Man
Black Mage (or another classic Final Fantasy generic character.)


You keep dreaming there guy. Also, I think five third party characters is COMPLETELY excessive. There should only be two or three max, and that's how many Sakurai said would be in.

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RE: Super Smash Bros. Brawl
« Reply #1749 on: May 24, 2007, 05:45:46 AM »
I just realized this...

We should make an official thread where we can discuss the latest SSB Dojo updates. Considering we have a thread that discusses the latest VC updates, we should do the same for the Dojo updates.
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