Topic: Yeah, Halo 3's been announced.

[GoldenPhoenix]

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Prime 3 had a large advancement, the control scheme. Like it or not, this changes what you do in the game, and how the players experiences the formula in a big way. Halo 3 simply rearranges what was already there. I guess saying that makes me a hypocrite.

I won't deny MP3's control refinements, and you're making a good point, Shy, that I ignored. I just found the gameplay to be more of the same (which is to say, it was excellent).

I don't care what Golden Phoenix says about you Evan, you're a gentleman and a scholar.

Haha, just say something he doesn't agree with, and then he'll blindly ignore you or insult you.

[that Baby guy]

Alright, financially, we've got that Halo 3 generated $170 dollars of revenue on day one.  Halo 2 performed for about $125 million, according to GameSpot.

Essentially, if every game sold were the low end $60 or $50 package, respectively, Halo 3 sold 2.83 million copies, while Halo 2 sold 2.5 million.

But, there's a problem:  Halo 3 most likely sold more bonus edition packages, which cost either $130 or $70.  So, while game revenue has set a new opening record, I think the numbers Halo 3 actually sold will be about the same as Halo 2.  That's not a bad thing, obviously, but it isn't the number MS needs for a real profit.

[Luigi Dude]

I'm interested in seeing just how many 360's wear sold because of this.  If Microsoft fails to outsell Nintendo for the month of September then consider this generation over, Nintendo has won.  

Considering how Halo 3 is going to be the best selling 360 game, if it wasn't able to help it's system outsell the market leader, then NO 360 game will.  Plus there's the fact that Microsoft has shipped so many 360's to stores, anyone that want's one can easily buy one.

So the NPD data for September is going to be most interesting to see since it'll tell us if Nintendo's won, or if Microsoft might actually have a chance.

[bustin98]

Gamasutra has a report indicating that Halo may have inspired 300,000 Xbox 360 units to be sold in the months leading up to its release.

[GoldenPhoenix]

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Gamasutra has a report indicating that Halo may have inspired 300,000 Xbox 360 units to be sold in the months leading up to its release.

That seems like a pretty off the wall statistic there, how do they know? Anyway regardless of my feelings of how great Halo is, I hope it propels MS far ahead of Sony and puts them back on track.

[GoldenPhoenix]

Well to update, I played a couple hours of the single player campaign mode and a couple multiplayer bouts. The campaign mode is better than the previous two, and while fun, it still isn't anything special, it is still pretty much mindless shooting, at least the first encounter with FLOOD wasn't too bad. Multiplayer is solid for a console game, though I'll have to play more of it.

[UERD]

I agree that a lot of people probably bought 360s in the past couple of months because they knew Halo 3 was coming out.

[IceCold]

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But, there's a problem: Halo 3 most likely sold more bonus edition packages, which cost either $130 or $70. So, while game revenue has set a new opening record, I think the numbers Halo 3 actually sold will be about the same as Halo 2. That's not a bad thing, obviously, but it isn't the number MS needs for a real profit.

Plus we have yet to see the impact on hardware sales - that's a much more important factor..

EDIT: Luigi Dude beat me to it. But also,

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Let me be flat out blunt here, I feel if people are so in love with Halo, like you are Evan, that they are IGNORANT, yes you like that term so I'll use it. They obviously haven't played far better and more complete experiences elsewhere, and so are impressed by a dumbed down, mainstream FPS, who's biggest "advancement" this next game is a video replay feature and a barebones level designer. What I want to know is how my PC FPS shooters have you played?

OH SNAP! Svevan gets a taste of his own elitism!

*brings out the popcorn*

[Flames_of_chaos]

Im just curious has anyone heard about the bonus disc controversy on the Legendary Edition, where there was supposed to be a disc with all the Halo 1 and 2 cutscenes remastered in widescreen and high def? Well unfortunately the folks at IGN and NeoGaf found out that  all those cutscene were remastered alright except in glorious 4:3 youtube/VCR quality.  

[BranDonk Kong]

Well Halo 1 isn't a widescreen game, so there's an excuse for that one, though I'm sure the PC version supports 16:10.

[GoldenPhoenix]

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Im just curious has anyone heard about the bonus disc controversy on the Legendary Edition, where there was supposed to be a disc with all the Halo 1 and 2 cutscenes remastered in widescreen and high def? Well unfortunately the folks at IGN and NeoGaf found out that  all those cutscene were remastered alright except in glorious 4:3 youtube/VCR quality.

I haven't watched it yet, but I will soon.

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

Great way to lead the HD revolution, Microsoft.

by presenting bad quality movies of your previous bests.

[GoldenPhoenix]

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Great way to lead the HD revolution, Microsoft.

by presenting bad quality movies of your previous bests.

Yeah it is inexcusable if what I've been hearing is true, not just the 4:3 but that the quality is poorer than the cinematics within the game itself.

[that Baby guy]

I don't get it.  Why not just have a cinema option in the game itself?  The 360 can output at HD levels, wouldn't that make more since, anyways?  Or is there not enough room on the game disc to include what's already in the game?

Anyways, in order to combat professionalism, The Alligator, my school's independent paper, included a short article today, saying that Halo 3 was worth all the hype or something like that.

An excerpt:
I played Halo 3 for the first time from 12:15 a.m. to 4:30 a.m. Tuesday until my thumbs were too tired to go on.
My friends, who by no means can be considered hardcore gamers, also dedicated their nights to "finishing the fight," even though they had another battle in calculus four hours later.
That, however, is the beauty of Halo.  Casual gamers become hardcore.

No, I'm not making this up.  He talks sales numbers, but not true implications of these numbers, and he says that although it's basically the exact same thing as Halo 2, Halo 2 was already pretty much the bees knees, so that makes Halo 3 awesome.  He also notes that pretty much every new feature has been in PC games for years, but it's ok, because Halo 3 is on a console.

I'll see if they haven't put the entire article online and link to it, but it makes me sick.

Edit:  Found it: http://www.alligator.org/articles/2007/09/27/the_avenue/features/halo3.txt

And GP- I'm not doing this because of Evan, I'm doing it because I'm disgusted.  Oh well, at least Nintendo can make a profit.

[Bill Aurion]

At least the game taught me the repercussions of ">mourning on the battlefield......

[Bill Aurion]

Oops, screwed up the link and now it won't let me edit the post...

Working link...

[bustin98]

You need to get your 360 hooked up to the Internet. And I need to get a copy of this game.

[GoldenPhoenix]

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You need to get your 360 hooked up to the Internet. And I need to get a copy of this game.

I have my 360 hooked up to the internet, in fact I bought a 1 year gold subscription mainly for Halo 3.

[UERD]

Now that the core Halo series is done, MS needs to find its next cash cow franchise pronto.

[GoldenPhoenix]

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Now that the core Halo series is done, MS needs to find its next cash cow franchise pronto.

Gears of War has potential to be their next big series.

[UERD]

Possibly. I haven't heard about a sequel, though...are they keeping it under wraps?

Also, they really need to diversify. Right now GTA and Madden are probably the games that anchor the 360's line. They need more types of games, or they'll saturate their target audience too soon.

[bustin98]

I read over on Kotaku that Halo is causing issues for people, mainly disk read errors, a few RRODs, and various other hard drive issues. Now I'm worried about when I get my copy...

People are posting issues on the Xbox 360 official forums and on Bungie.net.

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

I wonder, if the "press" didn't get "special" "advance" "review" copies, and received stock that belonged with all the regular shipments that went to everybody else, would there be a higher probability of them encountering shoddy/scratched discs, read errors and whatnot, such that they'd express their concerns over product quality and consumer trust before getting to the actual review?

[GoldenPhoenix]

Well I haven't had any problems with glitches. Actually I take that back, anytime I control the turret on the vehicles, the AI takes forever to drive up a hill (It was kind of funny we drove up a hill like 3 times and drove back down because a bad guy was up there so I had to take control of the driving. Low and behold it took like 5 seconds to kill the bad guy vehicle), but not sure if that is a disk problem.  

[Bill Aurion]

"Well I haven't had any problems with glitches. Actually I take that back, anytime I control the turret on the vehicles, the AI takes forever to drive up a hill"

That is just the friendly AI being absolutely horrible...

You know you are a Halo marine when:

1) When someone gets on a turret, you will always feel the desire to run in front of it...
2) You end up killing more friendlies than enemies when you toss a grenade...
3) When you plow over Master Chief while driving a Warthog without a care in the world...
4) When Master Chief gets in your vehicle you desire to drive in circles over and over until he finally decides to jump out and toss a grenade under it...
5) When firing rockets from your vehicle, you don't take into account blast radius, so you end up blowing up enemy vehicles when they are right next to you...
6) When you want to ride shotgun in a Warthog being dropped by a Pelican, and you end up getting crushed by it (I'm not kidding, this happened once...The guy just RAN UNDER the dropped Warthog...)