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« Reply #100 on: April 27, 2006, 02:35:24 PM »
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"Names like TiVo, iPod, google, etc, also sound odd, but they do appear to be the names of technology products for the average guy, not wii."

Are you really that blind?!  You think google and TiVo sound like technology?  Googley eyes.  You only think that way because those names are tied to products that MAKE YOU think that way.
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I didnt even know what Tivo was until all this debate about names came along in every forum I go to, but when I read it I asociated with something technological, something biological even, Wii doesnt relate to anything.

You (and Bill) are defending a lost cause, the name is horrible and thats really all there is to it.

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« Reply #101 on: April 27, 2006, 02:37:47 PM »
Oh snap, my opinion amounts to nothing, eh?  Yeah, alright.  But what about the people at Nintendo who chose the name?  They obviously chose it for a reason, and I'm willing to bet, regardless of what you may have lead yourself to believe, that they have at least a little bit of a plan.
By the way, I was mocking you.  Don't dismiss my opinions unless you want the same treatment from here on out.
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« Reply #102 on: April 27, 2006, 02:41:00 PM »
"You (and Bill) are defending a lost cause, the name is horrible and thats really all there is to it."

Ooooooh, can I play this game too?

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You are a moron, the name is awesome...That's really all there is to it...

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« Reply #103 on: April 27, 2006, 02:52:23 PM »
Im not flaming anyone, I have NEVER called anyone "blind", certainly not a "moron", Im also not dismissing anyone's opinions, I never said to hostile that his opinion wasnt valid. This is a matter of opinion after all, and guess what? the overwhelming majority HATES the name, you both like it, fine, but its still a lost cause, as in: "even if theres acouple of people who likes it the rest hates it". I hold nothing against you two, I get flamed and mocked despite that though.

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« Reply #104 on: April 27, 2006, 03:00:49 PM »
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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
"You (and Bill) are defending a lost cause, the name is horrible and thats really all there is to it."

Ooooooh, can I play this game too?

*ahem*

You are a moron, the name is awesome...That's really all there is to it...

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OK, this is getting ridiculous...

You guys like the name? Fine. Feel that we are being too harsh on it? Your problem, not ours. Everyone has different ways of thinking.

But to insult us, ridicule us and mock our comments because you don't agree with it? That's online forum inmaturity at its best, people.

A lot of us that dislike the name has posted a lot of good posts about why the name is bad and how it can hurt Nintendo. None of us are morons, stupid or idiotic. Please stop the personal insults just because you liked the name and we didn't.

Like Mantidor said, the majority of the media and the fans HATE the new name, and that's saying something. Like, not even the Celda trailer caused this much ruckus in the media. Even people had hoped that this would be in fact a good thing for Nintendo.

No one is saying the same thing about "Wii". I'm sorry, that's the reality of it.
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« Reply #105 on: April 27, 2006, 03:01:14 PM »
Neither of us flamed you.  Mocked you, yes, but I think "the name is horrible and thats really all there is to it" kinda merits it.  It is demeaning, if nothing else.  You got some of the same.  Big deal.
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« Reply #106 on: April 27, 2006, 03:08:08 PM »
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Neither of us flamed you.  Mocked you, yes, but I think "the name is horrible and thats really all there is to it" kinda merits it.  It is demeaning, if nothing else.  You got some of the same.  Big deal.


And mocking isn't the same as flaming? You guys are mocking our beliefs as to why we don't like the name. Like I mentioned before, a lot of us put a lot of thought into our opinions. We truly believe that this will hurt Nintendo in the end, the new name doesn't have strenght.

This is how we think. This is how the majority of the media thinks. Think differently? Fine. But ddon't condemn us because you don't share the same opinions as ours.
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« Reply #107 on: April 27, 2006, 03:10:30 PM »
Never insulted anyone.  I didn't even mock mantidor, I just said I did.  I'd like you to point out what in the post is mocking.  I just said that to make a point, it wasn't even proper word choice.
And neither of us are mocking you for your decision to dislike the name.  That's totally reasonable.  It's a silly name.  I was merely insulted by mantidor's totally disregard for my own opinions, and stated that very clearly.
Seriously, chill out.  This is a whole lot of crap over so little.
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« Reply #108 on: April 27, 2006, 03:12:25 PM »
What I do understand is what you said about the Nintendo guys having to think about this, there must be some sort of plan for it, but its really, really hard to see it at this point.

Its just a name and I doubt anyone has changed their minds on what the rev will offer or if they will buy it because of the official name ( I still think Perm was exagerating), but the more I try to make any sense of it the more Im left with nothing. The remote unveiling was chocking but after a couple of hours most people already were buying the concept, including me, the same with Wind Waker's reaction, but this doesnt look like is going to just be accepted.  
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« Reply #109 on: April 27, 2006, 03:12:56 PM »
"You guys like the name? Fine. Feel that we are being too harsh on it? Your problem, not ours. Everyone has different ways of thinking."

"You (and Bill) are defending a lost cause, the name is horrible and thats really all there is to it."

Opinion should be considered opinion, not as FACT, which is how this second quote is taken...So I hold every right to mock that...
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« Reply #110 on: April 27, 2006, 03:16:54 PM »
could we please not get into a pissing contest around here? (no pun intended)
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« Reply #111 on: April 27, 2006, 03:20:55 PM »
Hahahaha, I lol'd anyway.
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« Reply #112 on: April 27, 2006, 03:48:56 PM »
I got a reply from my mail:

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Hello and thank you for contacting Nintendo,

I appreciate your taking the time to share your comments regarding the name of our next home console.  If you haven't yet had the opportunity, please go to the news section of our Wiibsite (www.nintendo.com/newsmain) to learn our feelings about the name.  Rest assured that your feedback will be forwarded to the appropriate department for further review.

Sincerely,

Nintendo of America Inc.
David Glover



probably the same one everyone gets but I dont feel like looking through all the pages to see if it has been posted.
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« Reply #113 on: April 27, 2006, 03:58:27 PM »
I personally think its sad how everyone had to go use derogitory names, mocking and flaming people over a 3 letter name "Wii". I know how some of us on here like to be crazy and sometimes use inside jokes but this is f'ing sad! Seriously get over it. Plus look at in on the other hand most of us thought Xbox and Playstation as cruddy names when the came out but guess what? Those names grew on people and didn't care about it because a name is just a name don't like it, good its your opinion. But I think its sad how everyone is overreacting about this.

I personally like the name; but at first I had a mixed reaction but it grows on you. Its simple and the concept is elegant when you get used to it. And sometimes  in life you have to use the golden rule which is "keep it simple stupid".  
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« Reply #114 on: April 27, 2006, 04:05:47 PM »
First of all, I'd like to say that Time Squad owns.

Second of all...Wii!  Dumb!  I'm gonna have to bascially back everyone who says it'll put off Joe Blow on the street...who wants to buy a "Wii?"  and just think about the game boxes...::shudder::
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« Reply #115 on: April 27, 2006, 04:21:40 PM »
"IGN Wii: Some fans have already started comic books in hopes of somehow convincing Nintendo to change the name. Any message for these people?

Perrin Kaplan: Live with it, sleep with it, eat with it, move along with it and hopefully they’ll arrive at the same place."


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« Reply #116 on: April 27, 2006, 04:21:43 PM »
Well there are other game consoles names that people didn't like at first like Dreamcast or Turbografx. A name is just a name and if you don't buy a product just because name is stupid. I bet people didn't like the iPod at first and look how much of a retail success it has become and it even came from a company where its OS market share was some where between 2 - 3 percent.
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« Reply #117 on: April 27, 2006, 04:25:29 PM »
I wrote Nintendo to tell them how much I like the name.

Consider yourselves foiled!

I also asked for yellow to be a launch color.

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« Reply #118 on: April 27, 2006, 04:35:50 PM »
Dreamcast is an awesome game!

Also, is lovely how Kaplan treats Nintendo's fanbase "deal with it"? seriously is that her response? I know that boy-cotting the rev is just silly but I might do it because I f!king hate that arrogant attitude "you will by anything we give you even if we name it like crap". Thats just disgusting, the name is irrelevant afterall but you never should treat your customers that way. Stupid woman.

Edit: ok I read the whole interview and I took it out of context thanks in part to bill's commentary :P sorry bill it wasnt that bad and I retire my criticism. Ill call it rev or revolution anyway Kaplan but thanks for the suggestion.



 
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« Reply #119 on: April 27, 2006, 04:40:27 PM »
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Oh snap, my opinion amounts to nothing, eh?  Yeah, alright.  But what about the people at Nintendo who chose the name?  They obviously chose it for a reason, and I'm willing to bet, regardless of what you may have lead yourself to believe, that they have at least a little bit of a plan.


None of the opinions here mean anything: we're Nintendo fans, we're already guaranteed sales.

Nintendo's target demographic right now should be the person who wasn't going to pick up their console. Red Steel was a step in the right direction. This is a huge step backwards. I'm sorry, but I know the American mindset far too well. You just won't sell a console called "wee" to 9 of 10 American gamers.

Revolution, sure, but Wii ain't gonna cut it.
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« Reply #120 on: April 27, 2006, 04:51:52 PM »
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This is a huge step backwards. I'm sorry, but I know the American mindset far too well. You just won't sell a console called "wee" to 9 of 10 American gamers.


I can concede it may sell despite it's name.  But it shouldn't have to be despite anything.  Nintendo should make it as easy as possible to acclimate a total stranger to what Nintendo represents.  Yes, the games are foremost, I agree.  But why force a potential fan to wrap their mind around a name.  It seems like an unecessary hurdle.
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« Reply #121 on: April 27, 2006, 05:09:48 PM »
"I'm sorry, but I know the American mindset far too well."

Yeah, I'm sure you know the American mindset far, far better than all us other Americans.
By the way, it's not called wee, it's Wii.  Get it right.
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« Reply #122 on: April 27, 2006, 06:23:01 PM »
Nintendo, don't listen to these people, KEEP THE NAME.

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« Reply #123 on: April 27, 2006, 06:49:11 PM »
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But why force a potential fan to wrap their mind around a name. It seems like an unecessary hurdle.


It IS an unnecessary hurdle. Many people are going to take some convincing to even pick up the revmote, let alone buy the console.

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Originally posted by: Hostile Creation Yeah, I'm sure you know the American mindset far, far better than all us other Americans.
By the way, it's not called wee, it's Wii.  Get it right.


So you're saying that average Joe gamer X is mature and secure enough to buy a console pronounced "wee"?

Sorry, but no, I don't believe that for even a SECOND. These are the same gamers who are convinced that Nintendo is aimed at children and equate using its hardware and software to wearing diapers.

Seriously, go post on a general gaming forum and the non-Nintendo fans will all say the exact same thing: Nintendo is for children.

I thought, before this announcement, that we all pretty much agreed that Nintendo needed, above all else, to shake this kidd!e image and appeal to older gamers. Nintendo loses and loses BADLY when it comes to selling to older gamers, and they represent the majority of the market, which is clearly indicated by the fact that the GC is LAST in hardware sales this gen.

Reggie had even said that the GC was the benchmark for sales, that, if the Rev didn't outsell the cube, that it was a failure. With this new name, I'm not so sure it WILL outsell the cube.

Selling "wee" to the public is going to be selling something completely unheard of, and unless Nintendo plans to actually do some advertising this gen, it's NOT going to work. Sony and MS advertise their consoles like crazy. The last major wave of Nintendo ads I can recall was the miserable "Who are you?" ad campaign, which the new "Wii will change everything" campaign seems to have a great deal in common with. Both are vague and don't establish what the product in question even DOES.

At least with "Revolution", the name was self-explanitory: who doesn't know what a "Revolution" is? Nintendo shouldn't have to explain the name of their new console for people to understand it, especially when it already has enough new and different factors going for it.

I think it's a bad idea, and chastise me all you want, accuse me of whining, whatever. The average American gamer is image conscious and will not buy a product with a ridiculous name because they feel it will say something about them by association. Yes, that IS an immensely ignorant manner of thinking, but THAT is the sad state of the American mindset. It's not something I'm condoning, but it's the truth of the matter: American consumers are image-conscious and will not buy a product which they feel runs counter to their desired image.

It's not like I'm demanding blood from Nintendo. I simply think that the name "Revolution" had far more impact, universal understanding and selling power than "wii" ever will and I strongly believe that it would be in Nintendo's best interest to keep the name Revolution.
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« Reply #124 on: April 27, 2006, 07:41:52 PM »
I sent an email to Nintendo and told them to keep it. This is my message to some of you: GROW UP!