Topic: Why do nintendo fans hate Xbox so much?

[mouse_clicker]

Hostile, what manunited mean by HIS comment was that Halo-box, mean as a jab at MS and the XBox, is stupid and that you could easily make one for the Gamecube. Yes, Halo IS an XBox game but what the guy meant was that it was the ONLY good game for the Xbox, which is no an opinion shared among many people who have played an Xbox. Manunited was simply pointing that out.

[The Omen]

  I have previously stated that the only reason xbox fans tell me it's great is because of Halo.  They make the Halo-box stereotype.  I've played about 10 games , and there are about 5 good games, tops.  I'm not talking about any games that are on other systems, only exclusives.  And 5 might be generous.  My reasoning for not buying the xbox is simple- it's best game, as stated by xbox fans all over the place , is Halo, which i could get for my PC when it releases.  Since I already have  a high-end PC, why should I spend 200$ plus another $50 for xbox.?  It's a question even xbox fan's can't answer.

Do I hate XBOX?  No, but I find it disgusting how MS tooted their own horn at the launch without anything to back it up.  So, if you like the Xbox and think it's the best system, at least back up your position with some facts.    I give them points for Live, but I really don't game online.  But I am astute enough to realize some people like it, so they get a high mark in that regard.  As for the rest of their games/products, to me, it's been 80% hype and 20% games. And the fact that somebody brought up DOA volleyball as a great exclusive sickens me. I've played it.  That game sucks...

[Jirachi]

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Originally posted by: The Omen
I have previously stated that the only reason xbox fans tell me it's great is because of Halo.  They make the Halo-box stereotype.  I've played about 10 games , and there are about 5 good games, tops.  I'm not talking about any games that are on other systems, only exclusives.  And 5 might be generous.  My reasoning for not buying the xbox is simple- it's best game, as stated by xbox fans all over the place , is Halo, which i could get for my PC when it releases.  Since I already have  a high-end PC, why should I spend 200$ plus another $50 for xbox.?  It's a question even xbox fan's can't answer.

Do I hate XBOX?  No, but I find it disgusting how MS tooted their own horn at the launch without anything to back it up.  So, if you like the Xbox and think it's the best system, at least back up your position with some facts.    I give them points for Live, but I really don't game online.  But I am astute enough to realize some people like it, so they get a high mark in that regard.  As for the rest of their games/products, to me, it's been 80% hype and 20% games. And the fact that somebody brought up DOA volleyball as a great exclusive sickens me. I've played it.  That game sucks...

Look here, thats really nice if you have played ten games and only liked five, who cares does, that make anyother system better, nope. Also note, halo for PC will not be as good as the xbox version. Also note that no one even knows if the PC game will be any good since it is not being made by bungie. Tooted their horn, you may have not liked the launch games for xbox, but obviously seeing how xbox is selling better than GCN more people like it. Oh, and if you don't like DOAX then thats great. Its a fact that it is a great exclusive game, seeing that it is selling so good, better than a lot of GCN games too. 80% hype, maybe to you, but not to all others.

Someone needs to close this topic. Its full of immature 10 yr old GCN fanboys, who hate on xbox beacuse its doing better than their system.

[thecubedcanuck]

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Someone needs to close this topic. Its full of immature 10 yr old GCN fanboys, who hate on xbox beacuse its doing better than their system.

here here, I second that

[mouse_clicker]

"Someone needs to close this topic. Its full of immature 10 yr old GCN fanboys, who hate on xbox beacuse its doing better than their system."

Actually, I think most people who don't like the XBox are actually providing valid reasons. I'm not saying I agree with them, just that I haven't really seen any "t3H /\/\1[R0$oF7 SUXX0RZ!!1!1!!111!". Remember, just because we're open minded doesn't mean we don't have the right to dislike something. If people have valid reasons for not wanting or liking an XBox, then calling them immature fanboys is kind of hypocritical. I'm pretty impartial (no one can be truly impartial), but I have absolutely no desire to get an XBox. Open mindedness means that you give other things a chance before dismissing them- it doesn't mean you can't not like them after you've given them that chance.

[rpglover]

mouse_clicker is right- i dont like the xbox either but not because of being a fanboy crybaby
personally the xbox hasnt done anything right except futuristic shooters- they are fun but is that all they do???
the xbox does not have enough games on its system to force me to buy one
i had a gc from day one and i just got a ps2 about 4 months ago when i could trade in my 64 and 10 games for 100 $ off for it
i like the ps2 but really only for the rpgs
but the gamecube is where most of my good games are- all the nintendo exclusives, capcom, and others
basically it all comes down to a matter of preference and i just dont like the selection on the xbox yet
that doesnt mean i will never buy one- i may down the road if they churn out some high quality titles
fable looks good but i have not seen it in action yet, halo 2 could be good but i just dont want a rehash sequal for it
so i guess thats how i feel- not enough good game on the xbox yet to get me to buy one

[Jirachi]

I understand that, but there is a difference between saying I like gamecubes game better, and do not plan on buying an xbox, and saying xbox has no good games, blah blah blah, good online, bad exclusives. Thats how the fanboys here speak. Their stupidity hurts my head. If you don't like a system say you don't don't get all deffensive when your fav starts to sell less than the newcomer for the second time. Just continue to play your games, and let us play ours. Another thing is the fanboys need tostop trying to tell ppl what system to buy. Let others decide for themselves. It just shows how desperate tthey are to get their system to sell well.

There is no need for there to be a 7 page disscussion about this. Some ppl like this, others don't thats all there is to it. Get over it fanboys (its only a few that I call fanboy cause they post stupid things)

Also saying that they haven't don anything right except fps is just stupid. There are hundreds of other xbox games to play other than Halo, just becasue its is the most popular game does mean there aren't other game. Its only naturally for a GCN fan to like their games more than others. Just don't play xbox, but don't tell us our games suck cause we could say the same for you.

[AERO]

Microsoft was the one with nothing to back them selves up with at launch? lol

[mouse_clicker]

Aero: Well, from a point of view that is a pretty valid statement. In my opniino, pretty much all the XBox had going for it at launch was Halo (what hardcore XBox fan do you know actually bought DOA3 at launch, if ever?). That's the reason Halo sold so well, because it was THE game to own for the XBox while pretty much all the rest were negligible. The Gamecube, on the other hand, had Rogue Leader, Wave Race (still considered one extraordinary racer), and for a lot of people Luigi's Mansion (you can't say it didn't sell well because I believe it was the best selling launch game ever, except for like Halo and SM64).  About 2 weeks later, you had SSBM and Pikmin released. All really great games without exception (although LM is iffy among many).

Like I said, I'm not saying that's TRUE, but it is a valid statement from a certain point of view. Obviosuly you disagree, which is fine. It all really matters on your taste in games.

[Jirachi]

Apparentlly there were xbox launch games that you didn't notice, or just don't like and don't want to mention. Games that I and many others (the people who bought them at launch), are Amped, Project Gotham Racing, DOA3, which are just to name a few. Don't get me wrong tho, back in November 2001, I was first inline at my local EB to pick up my GCN. My first games, WR BS, and THPS3. for me, the launch games were just temporay till SSBmelee came out. So GCN didn't have such a great launch either. So GCN didn't have the best launch either.

[mouse_clicker]

All in your opinion, Jirachi. I don't like sports games, so Amped is out, not a fan of "real" racers, so PG is out, and most people, like I said, agreed DOA3 is a subpar fighter at best. I'm not saying the Gamecube launch was sparkling, but I DO think that there was a better selection of launch titles for the Gamecube. I don't know anyone who owns Amped, one guy who owns Project Gotham (my friend's dad picked it up used in a bargain bin- he doesn't play it), and nobody who owns DOA3. Comparitively, EVERYONE who owns an XBox owns Halo. Otherwise, it's not clear what's the second best. On the Gamecube the heirarchy, IMO, is pretty obvious: Zelda, Metroid, SSBM, then SMS or ED. I'd say 95% of Gamecube owners I know own those first 3 alone and almost as many own SMS in addition (unfortunatly ED sold horribly).

Like I said, this is all from one point of view, which mine is rather close to. I'm not saying the XBox sucks or anything, just that it has very few titles I'd like on it. And also, you don't need to prove you're a Gamecube fan, too- I'm not going to think you're a fanboy just because you support the XBox.

BTW, this is my 400th post!

[Jirachi]

400, I'm probably still at 50. What you said about the people you know who have gcn, and that they all have pretty much the same games doesn't make gcn look to good. I mean if most ppl have those 3 then there isn't much variety. What surprises me, is that I also have a gcn and I don't plan on buying any of those games. I guess I just don't like em. For me, I'll just stick with my Halo, Kung Fu Chaos, DOA3, Mech Assault and Pokemon Sapphire. I just wanted to say that in the end it all comes down to what games you like. Everyone has different tastes, so there is no point in saying that your system is better, cause in the end they probably don't care what others think, as long as they have the games they like.

[mouse_clicker]

I could see how one might think the Gamecube has little variety from my statement, but I assure you, that's not what I meant. What I meant was that, in my opinion, there's many more must-have titles on the Gamecube than on the XBox. You have WW, MP, and SSBM at least, while if you ask XBox fans to decide on 3 must-haves for the XBox, I doubt they'll agree on anything more than Halo.

[Jirachi]

Thats strange, all the xbox ppl I know could tell you three must have games. WW, MP, SSBM, the only one I ever had from those was ssbm, and after unlocking everything, the game became pointless. Thats the problem I have with gcn, most of the good games are made by Nintendo. I find just the same series over and over will loose interest in many ppl. I mean look at sunshine, the game had MARIO in it and still it wasn't a big seller. yes gcn has I wide variety, but when most only have those 3 or others, it doesn't look good for the system.

My, and many others 3 must haves for xbox are: Halo (of course), Splinter Cell, and Mech Assault.  

[manunited4eva22]

Cough cough steel battallion is awsome cough

Mouse: thank you for clarifying what I was saying, good to know people still read for understanding.

[mouse_clicker]

Jirachi: Well then you're one of a kind- almost every Gamecube owner I know has Wind Waker, as many have Metroid Prime, and they ALL (I'm not kidding) have SSBM. If you don't have MP or WW, you're relaly missing out on some of the best games ever, man.

And good point bringing up Splinter Cell- honestly, it slipped my mind. Still, I could get that for my PS2 or Gamecube, so it's ability to get people to buy an XBox is almost moot. However, if you only own an Xbox, that is a must have title. As for Mechassualt, no one I know who owns an XBox owns Mecahassault, and only one of them has rented it (although he did like it). I know it's a great game- believe me, I'd love for my XBox owning friends to get it so I could go over to their houses and play it, but I think it's only hardcore XBox fans who own Mechassault.

[thecubedcanuck]

I have owned a gamecube since launch and all my favorite GC games are third party with the exception of Wave race. I have grown tired of Mario and Zelda, and these are games I use to love, games I grew up on.

I find myself playing my PS2 and X-box more and more these days, both systems have a lot of games that I prefer.
I really dont care how these games are percieved, I just enjoy them more than say Wind waker. Wind Waker was brilliantly done, it just isnt for me, I would rather play Halo or Vice city.

I am 32 years old, and only know 2or 3 people who still play games. I dont play games because they are cool, I dont buy things just because they are hip, I play and buy what I enjoy.

I am very very fortunate to have a comfortable lifestyle and to be able to afford all 3 systems, so I am able to get the best of 3 gaming worlds (I hate playing games on a PC so I dont include them), but I notice the exclusive games I most like for CG are the games many other Nintendo users dont like as much, games such as RE, RE0 and Wave Race.

I fail to understand why so many people see the need to rag on another system just because it isnt the one they prefer, it just seems so pointless. People have very differant tastes when it comes to games, and I really dont think anyone is right or wrong when they play something they enjoy.

[Jirachi]

Some of my friends that own gcn have MP, and WW, but since I just bought a GBASP and PKMNS, I can't buy any games for a few weeks. Zelda, never liked all the puzzles and snooping around, thats why I don't own splinter cell (but its still a must have), MP that game would mak this 15yr old wet his bed. With me, I want to support one system, so I can focus on just one, but I love online games and M$ is the only one doing that right. I just want to support the most pwerful system becue IMO if all developers made games for it, they would be better. But with PS2 in number one, thats imposible. I know everyone has their own opinion but I can't stand PS2, it is so infeior to everything else. laggy online games, crapy graphics, and some of the most garbage games I have ever seen. Thats why I support M$, cause they give us the best of the best, and I also support Nintendo cause I want to see them do well. (Of cousre its my dream that M$ would buy them out, and we could have all of nintendo's best games on the xbox2.) (druling). But its unlikely.

Curently I have no GCN games, but  really want to. There just isn't anything for me.  

[The Omen]

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Thats why I support M$, cause they give us the best of the best, and I also support Nintendo cause I want to see them do well. (Of cousre its my dream that M$ would buy them out, and we could have all of nintendo's best games on the xbox2.) (druling). But its unlikely.

Best of the best?  Mind telling us what that would include?

Nintendo is doing very well.  If they were bought out by M$, I'd expect the rapture to follow soon after.

One company hypes up games, calling them the best ever for their paticular genre.  The problem being, they still haven't released any.  One company takes a relatively silent approach to games in the pipeline, perfects them.  So when they finally release, you're blown away.  Now you tell me, who is who?

[Jirachi]

I didn't say they were doing bad did I. Also I'm not gonna tell you what the best of the best is, cause first of all from the way you talk you sound like a fanboy, and what ever game I say your probably gonna not like. There no point trying to say your opinion with pricks like you around. Remember what I post is my opinion, don't *itch at me cause you don't like what I'm saying, just be quiet. You don't have to like what I like just stop trying to force others to like what you like.  

[manunited4eva22]

Jirachi, tell me what do you know about Microsoft's reputation? They are known for leaving bugs in (read the December issue of PC World, Microsoft left an error in Win2000 that allows Windows to use 99% of system resources, later charged 50 dollars for the fix) just to make an extra buck. As for games, Microsoft hasn't built a reputation that well (Halo may be awsome, but it is in the company of many mediocre games) so 'the best of the best' at this point is a little bold of a statement wouldn't you say?

[The Omen]

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Thats why I support M$, cause they give us the best of the best,

That doesn't sound like an opinion to me, it sounds like a factual statement.  I seriously would like to know what you meant,  so if you want to flame ,go ahead.  But you still didn't answer the question.  

I'll give you the top 3 games for xbox(exclusives)from what i've played
Halo
Mechassault
TAO:Fist

Now you tell me where the best of the best lies.  I should not be classified as a fanboy.  I 've stated several times in these very forums that xbox has some good games.  But I prefer GC because i can't play their exclusives anywhere.  XBOX exclusives are for PC also, for the most part.  So why don't you be a little more respectful in your answer, if you have one.  Or be a little more mature ,for a 15 yr old.

[Jirachi]

Seems like you can't look past a company. If you have a problem with windows get a MAC. Do *itch at me cause you don't like what they did. This discussion is about console, not if a company is good or evil. I'm pretty sure you would still be loyal to nintendo if they release a system or game, and charge you to fix it. I'm pretty sure you would still play their games if Mr. Miyamoto(sp) was involed in a *ex scandal. All company's are in the buisness for the money so don't try to make Nintendo look all innocent.

Oh and Omen, sorry it does sound like a fact, I should have said IMO before it. Also this crap about xbox exclusives on PC, BS, yeah look slinter cell is on PC, so that means all of xbox's good games are on PC. Yes SC is on PC, but then again look who has the best version. Give me a list of xbox games that are on PC. There are some but not a lot. Also note that GCN doesn't have the best 3rd party support, and since Nintendo makes its best games its very unlikely that any of the games would also be on PC.

And plz,       tell me how I'm being dis-respectful. I'm sorry I don't agree with you (I used to, back whan I admit I was a GCN fanboy), but my opinion of what the best of the best is different than yours, plz accept that.  

[The Omen]

  I am just curious what you're rational is.  I'm not saying you're wrong or right.  Most people would back up their opinion with why they feel that way.

And I know GC has the worst 3rd party support out of the 3 systems, although you could debate xbox and gc.  But as I stated, I like the exclusives.   Alone, they are enough to warrant the purchase of the GC.  But I think the 3rd party support, in conjunction with the exclusives, makes a very nice library.  The 3rd party support has done nothing but improve, and will only get better.

HALO-PC                                
SPLINTER CELL-PS2,GC,PC            
MORROWIND-PC                    
MECHASSAULT-?                            
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         

[Jirachi]

I'm not say that your wrong or right either. I also understand that GCN has great first party exclusives.
There just not for me, but I do hope that MP wins game of the year from most ppl, and not GTAVC. I'm not trying to bash GCN, I'm just trying to tell ppl why I like a system, but some don't what to hear that.

MechAssault is only on xbox.
Also realize that Bungie original was making Halo for PC. When M$ saw that it was such a great game they bought them out. Made it an xbox exclusive. Then about a year later, bungie got another company to make a PC version of the xbox hit halo. The game will have the same story, with decreased graphics, and posibly online play. I would get it for PC if is definatly has online play, but I think that the original will always be better. For slinter Cell it has to be obvious that the best verion is on xbox(plz tell me u see that), it has best graphics and downloadable levels. Then GCN cause of the GBA feature. But just because a game is also on PC doesn't mean that the console version isn't worth the time.

What I don't get is how this topic became so off-topic.