Author Topic: So is Nintendo stupid enough to make the controller use normal, non-rechargable batteries? (Read 23341 times)

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #25 on:** September 24, 2005, 09:14:48 PM »

Oh crap, Ian HIJACK!

Artimus · « **Reply #26 on:** September 24, 2005, 09:16:05 PM »

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Originally posted by: Mario
Because there is no answer, it would be a disaster, plain and simple. This could be THE mistake that ensures Nintendo is third place for another generation. When someone finds themself in that situation where they have friends come over to show off the Rev to and you have no batteries lying around, they are going to dismiss the console pretty damn quick and word will spread. With Revolution so far they've done everything right, I don't want a silly mistake like this to throw everything off.

Yes, I do expect them to be rechargable too, but it hasn't been confirmed

No, the answers is simple: put in the other two. We're talking about rechargable AAs...are you really that stupid as to not realize you'd be charging two while using 2?

Mario · « **Reply #27 on:** September 24, 2005, 09:24:25 PM »

That would be an ideal solution if 4 rechargable AA batteries came with the Revolution.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #28 on:** September 24, 2005, 09:37:07 PM »

Naah, even the GB didn't come with rechargeables.

If the Li-Ion dies in the DS you can still use the device but you'd have to keep it plugged into an outlet. If the Rev controller dies, you can't just wire it.

RABicle · « **Reply #29 on:** September 24, 2005, 10:17:17 PM »

Could the kinetic energy exerted by us moving the controller be harnesses to power the controller? THis would be ideal solution.

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Originally posted by: Artimus

No, the answers is simple: put in the other two. We're talking about rechargable AAs...are you really that stupid as to not realize you'd be charging two while using 2?

Yeah but Mario wants to show off revolution to his friends. So he's going to need 10 rechargeable batteries. 8 for the 4 controllers and 2 backup.

I side towards rechargable lithium ion. It shouldn't be our responsibility to buy batteries in addition to our console and we shouldn't be having to maintain our systems by forever buying new AA batteries or charging/changing them.

Rhoq · « **Reply #30 on:** September 25, 2005, 05:26:31 AM »

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Originally posted by: UncleBob
Personally, I'm hoping (although not expecting) AA's.

See, here's the problem with rechargable batteries. They die too.

Exactly. I would rather spend $2 on a 2 pack of Alkaline AAs every 6 months to a year than witness the lithium ion battery pack slowly die over the course of 2 years.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #31 on:** September 25, 2005, 05:34:30 AM »

Could the kinetic energy exerted by us moving the controller be harnesses to power the controller? THis would be ideal solution.

Probably not enough to make batteries unnecessary. Plus it'll cost extra. I don't want 75$ controllers, do you?

It shouldn't be our responsibility to buy batteries in addition to our console and we shouldn't be having to maintain our systems by forever buying new AA batteries or charging/changing them.

No, you don't have to maintain a system that uses Li-Ion batteries. It just becomes useless after five years.

nickmitch · « **Reply #32 on:** September 25, 2005, 07:29:58 AM »

Well the way it was at my house, we had a good supply of batteries in a drawer, for flash lghts etc, and whenever the supply went low, we would just buy more.
All I'm saying is that it's easy to maintain regular batteries. But I think I'd prefer rechargeable AAs that are removable with the Rev. That way you can just switch whenever the controller needs recharging.

BigJim · « **Reply #33 on:** September 25, 2005, 08:18:12 AM »

OH NOES! I have to buy BATTERIES??? The situation is clear! If Nintendo doesn't use renewable hydrogen cell batteries TEH Revolution is DOOMED TO DIE!!!!!!!!!

Is there a "roll eyes" emoticon?

IceCold · « **Reply #34 on:** September 25, 2005, 12:08:12 PM »

On my Motorola 2 way radios I can either use AA batteries, OR the 3.6V NiMH/NiCD pack that Motorola sells. When I got the radios, the cradle and one battery pack each came with the bundle, but when they died, I switched to NiMH rechargeable AAs.

Maybe Nintendo could do this - allow the controller to use both AAs and a rechargeable pack, which, along with the cradle, could be sold separately.

King of Twitch · « **Reply #35 on:** September 25, 2005, 01:02:21 PM »

Make a shell attachment like a fishing rod, and have the spinning reel thingy recharge the batteries when you spin it around. There you go.

ruby_onix · « **Reply #36 on:** September 25, 2005, 03:27:32 PM »

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Originally posted by: Pale
BUY RECHARGABLES FOR THE WAVEBIRD!

From the Wavebird instructions...

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- Use only alkaline or carbon zinc batteries. Do not use nickel cadium (nicad) or nickel metal hydride (nimh) batteries.

- Do not recharge the batteries.

Say goodbye to your warranty!

KDR_11k · « **Reply #37 on:** September 25, 2005, 09:27:48 PM »

They write that in every single manual out there. If these things were really as dangerous as some companies make them out to be they'd be illegal to sell.

trip1eX · « **Reply #38 on:** September 25, 2005, 10:05:12 PM »

Yeah I just don't think Nintendo wants to deal with consumers saying their batteries are charged so how come your controller doens't work? IT's not my batteries it's your controller. So they say alkalines only.

Stimutacs Addict · « **Reply #39 on:** September 26, 2005, 08:11:23 AM »

how can it output rumble and go wireless with the wavebird's battery life?

Pale · « **Reply #40 on:** September 26, 2005, 09:25:54 AM »

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Originally posted by: ruby_onix
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Originally posted by: Pale
BUY RECHARGABLES FOR THE WAVEBIRD!

From the Wavebird instructions...
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- Use only alkaline or carbon zinc batteries. Do not use nickel cadium (nicad) or nickel metal hydride (nimh) batteries.

- Do not recharge the batteries.

Say goodbye to your warranty!

1. My wavebirds are well out of warranty with no problems.
2. If they did break I'm sure the 35 dollars would force me to sell my home.
3. It's not even like they can tell you use rechargables.

I hope your kidding.

I've used rechargable batteries in all four of my wavebirds that I've had since release. I literally forgot they weren't built in rechargables when this argument first came up.

vudu · « **Reply #41 on:** September 26, 2005, 09:43:13 AM »

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Originally posted by: UncleBob
See, here's the problem with rechargable batteries. They die too. But ten years down the road, is Nintendo still going to be selling replacement batteries for the SP and DS? What about 15 years? 20? I can still play my NES with the 4-Player Satellite or my Virtual Boy because it takes batteries that I can go buy at Wal-Mart. Will I be able to show my grandkids how neat my DS was back in the day?

rechargable batteries don't die after a certain time period, they die after a certain number of charges. I think the batteries in the SP/DS are supposed to last at least 300 charges. How often do you replace the batteries in your Wavebird? Every six months? Every year? Just to be safe, let's say you recharge them every month. That means recharable batteries in your Revolution controller should last around 25 years. Not too shabby.

IceCold · « **Reply #42 on:** September 26, 2005, 10:02:06 AM »

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Originally posted by: vudu
rechargable batteries don't die after a certain time period, they die after a certain number of charges. I think the batteries in the SP/DS are supposed to last at least 300 charges. How often do you replace the batteries in your Wavebird? Every six months? Every year? Just to be safe, let's say you recharge them every month. That means recharable batteries in your Revolution controller should last around 25 years. Not too shabby.

Yeah, but if the Rev used LiIons and it had rumble, you would have to recharge the battery a LOT more than once a month...

Toruresu · « **Reply #43 on:** September 26, 2005, 10:26:52 AM »

But will the NCR have rumble? Maybe the adapter with 'normal' controls, but not the remote.

Edit: ... Forget I ever said that, ok?

PaLaDiN · « **Reply #44 on:** September 26, 2005, 10:33:00 AM »

The remote has rumble.

Renny · « **Reply #45 on:** September 26, 2005, 11:10:32 AM »

Rechargeable batteries degrade over time, regardless of use. Obviously using them more will wear them out them faster.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #46 on:** September 26, 2005, 11:32:00 AM »

Rechargable batteries don't die after a certain time period, they die after a certain number of charges.

Li-Ion batteries discharge over time (5%/month?) and if they discharge under a certain limit they start losing capacity. They will also degrade a bit by themselves, the higher the charge the higher the speed of degradation. Either way, you cannot put them into a box and wait a few years without them taking damage, if you want to keep them alive for a long time you'll have to keep them at ~35% charge to minimize damage. The article I got that from suggested charging the stored away Li-Ions every 2-3 months to avoid undercharge damage while keeping the standard decay as low as possible.

By the time the PS4 launches first gen Rev controllers would already have dead batteries.

mantidor · « **Reply #47 on:** September 26, 2005, 02:04:06 PM »

are you saying that by the time ps4 launches DSs and GB SPs around the world will become unusable?

as far as I know they use rechargable batteries with no option of AA.

IceCold · « **Reply #48 on:** September 26, 2005, 03:21:28 PM »

Well, you could always buy another Li-Ion for the GBA or the DS...

KnowsNothing · « **Reply #49 on:** September 26, 2005, 04:03:05 PM »

They're quite cheap as well, I know I was surprised by the price.

Seriously, a $15 battery that lasts an entire generation and more aint too shabby if you ask me.

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Author Topic: So is Nintendo stupid enough to make the controller use normal, non-rechargable batteries? (Read 23341 times)