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RE: ITT: PSP Discussion
« Reply #350 on: April 23, 2006, 10:32:00 PM »
I never undertsood DIVX. They expected people to pay for a seperate system just to watch special discs that expired after a set period of time? At least that thing with the DVDs that wore out after a set number days sort-of made sense.

The fact is, though, nobody wants a product which self-destructs. Unless it contains top-secret instructions for an impossible spy mission.
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« Reply #351 on: April 24, 2006, 10:25:39 AM »
I think the original divx was supposed to become standard in all DVD players and you'd most likely not be able to buy some movies on permanent discs.

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« Reply #352 on: June 28, 2006, 10:08:45 AM »
Since sony cant make any good psp game their porting 7,000 ps1 game to the psp by 07 lol so no more rearview mirror for the psp.
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RE: ITT: PSP Discussion
« Reply #353 on: June 28, 2006, 11:03:30 AM »
The PS1 had 7,000 games?  I call BS on that.  I just don't believe it.  Did the NES have that many games?  Or the Super Nintendo?  The NES had the longest life cycle and highest 3rd party support of any system...and I don't recall it having that many games.


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« Reply #354 on: June 28, 2006, 11:48:01 AM »
"As of March 2005, there were 7,743 software titles available (this figure counts games released in multiple regions as separate titles)"
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So if there are infact 7,000 titles coming out that would be that we would have at least 3 versions of the same game. And 5(or 8 we don't know if GH count) versions of Final Fantasy VII.

A lot of people are calling BS on that story. One major flaw in the idea that all the PSOne titels will be ported is the whole little issue of the PSP missing R2, L2 and a right analog stick.  
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RE: ITT: PSP Discussion
« Reply #355 on: June 28, 2006, 12:03:45 PM »
Don't forget to count each individual Mini-game.  Those are games too.  How about collections.  4 games what 3 regions.  That's 12 games right there.  

Ok let's say that every game came out in every region and there is Three regions.  That would give us 2,581 Unique games.  How about that number?  I still think it's to big but the Nintendo list of Cube games is much bigger then I ever knew about.  So who knows.
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« Reply #356 on: June 28, 2006, 06:47:24 PM »
Well if they could do that then maybe I would finally have a reason to pick up a PSP, I missed alot of PS1 games I've wanted to play and I know Bittorrent will my friend.

I've been thinking about getting a PS2 once it drops down to about $75 new just to play al the games I've missed out on being on Nintendo systems only all these years.

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« Reply #357 on: June 28, 2006, 08:55:32 PM »
Considering that 90% of those PS1 games are the kind that Nintendo didn't allow on their console because that was the type that crashed the 2600...

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« Reply #358 on: June 29, 2006, 09:06:34 AM »
There is also the matter of reformatting every single PS1 game in order to function on a squished widescreen.

The problem with this sort of thing is that a lot of the hotly desired PS1 games were multi-disc.  Even if you take into account redundant data across discs, you are still looking at downloads in excess of 500 Megabytes at the least, an absolute nightmare for dialup, which probably won't be supported anyway.  In addition to the aforementioned screen formatting required and the possible control formatting CapAmerica mentioned, you are looking at a lot of effort just to put something on a download service.  So possibly not every single PS1 title ever will get the download treatment (i.e. Jumping Flash and Bubsy 3D).  So then the effort is relegated to games worth the effort to do so.

But then here is another flaw in logic.  If you are going to all that effort, why not just sell it standalone?  I know the Ian's of the world hate it, but ports are actually a good idea from time to time.  Many of the GBA's best sellers were SNES ports with a few added bonuses.  Even one of the DS's highest sellers is an N64 port, althought it is not THE highest (go Nintendogs).  And while the PSP gets derided for ports, it is not necessarily the fact that it has a lot of ports.  It's that it doesn't have the RIGHT ports.  Like the upcoming Def Jam Vendetta: Fight for New York: The Takeover.  I'm not sure anybody wanted that on the CONSOLES, much less a handheld.  But having FF7-FF9 and Metal Gear Solid 1 ports at launch would have definitely helped out the PSP's library troubles at launch.  And they would have reached a higher audience of PSP owners than PSP owners who happen to have broadband, who happen to remember some old PS1 games, and who happen to have the desire to download old PS1 games on a download service.

By contrast, the Wii download service is much different, as the maximum dowload there probably will not exceed 64 MB at the absolute most (unless that TG-CD Castlevania game somehow gets on there.)  For games like Super Metroid and Pilotwings, it would be more costly to develop, test, manufacture, package, and attempt to market ports of these games on the GBA or DS.  Considering they barely exceed 5 MB total, it would be much wiser to offer them and the rest of the respective legacy system's library as a boon to a new console, and in the Wii's case offering the most robust and extensive backwards compatibility lineup in the history of the industry.  They throw them up on the service with no effort and Nintendo gets revenue for, basically, electrical signals.  Nintendo is smart here, maximizing the profitibality of classic games while refraining from a high amount of effort to make them available.

But I do find it humorous that the titles the PSP audience wants most are not games made for the PSP.
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« Reply #359 on: June 29, 2006, 11:17:10 AM »
Sadly, Sony should've probably just done this from the get-go. A Portable PSOne with its one screen and handheld would've probably been cheaper and sold faster.

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« Reply #360 on: June 29, 2006, 12:20:28 PM »
Fun thought.  By the time this Gen is over there is a good chance that Broadband would have reached a point where downloading Cube games wouldn't be that unheard of.  Also that compression will be better.  Thinking about it.  I'm pretty sure that with the extra horsepower that a PSP has compared to a PSOne Sony could probably do some good amount of compression on each of the games.  Maybe even shrinking them dramatically.  Especially when you reencode some of the media.  Media encoding has gotten much better and producing smaller files across the board.
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RE: ITT: PSP Discussion
« Reply #361 on: June 29, 2006, 10:41:58 PM »
I can't wait to play FFVII on PSP, it's the perfect portable game.

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« Reply #362 on: July 04, 2006, 09:48:09 AM »
How far is Sony willing to go to ensure that thier products turn their customers away?
I'm not sure but I'm willing to bet that this ad is a little too close to the edge...

Sony Uses UnIntentional(?) Racism To Advertise PSP?

I'm sure its very unintentional but you gotta admit that there were much better ways to get thier point across that the white version of PSP is coming out. By having a white woman in all white wearing one white glove dominantly supress a black woman in all black by grabbing her by the face and forcing her to look up seems a little too bold even for Sony.
I'm not sure of the exact point they are trying to get across, but aren't these products supposed to complement each other and not have one be superior to the other? I mean they are still both just PSP's but the white one has to be shown as better than the black one? I thought thier enemies were the iPod and the DS, not each other.

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« Reply #363 on: July 04, 2006, 11:09:18 AM »
This isn't new remember the old ads
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« Reply #364 on: July 04, 2006, 11:14:44 AM »
Its one thing to play on racial stereotypes, its something else completely to push "white supremacy".
And this is coming from a Japanese company too, how ironic...

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« Reply #365 on: July 04, 2006, 09:51:58 PM »
I think a Japanese company once advertised heaters made by some german company by having a picture of Hitler on the ad.

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« Reply #366 on: July 04, 2006, 10:38:52 PM »
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Its one thing to play on racial stereotypes, its something else completely to push "white supremacy".
And this is coming from a Japanese company too, how ironic...


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« Reply #367 on: July 05, 2006, 04:03:54 AM »
I don't see a point other than to get attention.  And Sony has been very dumb with its advertising lately, the cartoon PSP commercials, and the crown of thorns ad, pathetic.
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« Reply #368 on: July 05, 2006, 06:25:47 AM »
Well Sony has responded to the claims of "racism", and even though they deny everything, the ad is still in poor taste.
At least they aren't releasing those ads anywhere other than the Netherlands, thats gotta tell you they knew it was inappropriate on some level.

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« Reply #369 on: July 05, 2006, 07:08:21 AM »
is it just me or we can assume that Sony will screw up on even days? oO
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« Reply #370 on: July 05, 2006, 09:19:54 AM »
You make it sound like they don't screw up on odd days.

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« Reply #371 on: July 05, 2006, 10:37:14 AM »
Wow, I'd almost go as far to say that Sony is following Akklaim's footsteps by trying to use advertising which is shocking in the hopes of garnering attention.

We all know how well that strategy worked for Akklaim...
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« Reply #372 on: July 19, 2006, 03:58:40 PM »
The stupidest thing sony did since yesterday

because the umd movie sold so amazingly at $40 their selling memory stick movies for $60 and $100 each in a lower resolution then the umd one... are they trying to run them selfs into the ground or what?
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« Reply #373 on: July 19, 2006, 07:13:32 PM »
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The stupidest thing sony did since yesterday

because the umd movie sold so amazingly at $40 their selling memory stick movies for $60 and $100 each in a lower resolution then the umd one... are they trying to run them selfs into the ground or what?


What I love is that they selected like the four worst movies possible to give that treatment to first. SWAT, XXX: State of the Union? No thanks...  
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« Reply #374 on: July 19, 2006, 09:22:32 PM »
A bit late, but....
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How far is Sony willing to go to ensure that thier products turn their customers away?
I'm not sure but I'm willing to bet that this ad is a little too close to the edge...

Sony Uses UnIntentional(?) Racism To Advertise PSP?

What the hell is Sony smoking?

I guess I can kind of see the twisted logic that went into this. "hey, let's have a white girl represent the white PSP and a black girl represent the black PSP. And let's give them a friendly rivalry. And since the white is the newer model, let's have her kind of dominate the black one..."

Of course, this is assuming good faith. They could've, instead, been thinking "haha, you know what would really drum up some interest? A blatantly racist ad!" or "Hey, a lot of people in this country hate black people, right? How can we use that?"
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