Author Topic: Pokémon Black and White Sequels Announced (Read 19185 times)

xcwarrior · « **Reply #25 on:** February 25, 2012, 11:41:11 PM »

I was hoping for it to be on the 3DS. I'll probably skip these games. This is just a lazy cash in which by most of the comments, is going to work well.

Caterkiller · « **Reply #26 on:** February 26, 2012, 01:32:34 AM »

We don't even know if it's an all new adventure or just a quick "gray" cash in. Let more info about it get out first.

I want Pokemon with different abilities, than alone is enough for me. You don't want it, don't get it.

Enner · « **Reply #27 on:** February 26, 2012, 01:54:27 AM »

Aww, I was looking forward to Pokemon Gray.

Anyway, this version 2 seems like a baby step for the main line of series. I guess it's too early for the next generation Pokemon game to come out.

EDIT: Knee jerk reaction over.
It is too early to tell what to make of this game. The English subtitle of "Version 2" indicated to me that the game will be a great big content patch or expansion pack like the other third versions of Pokemon generations. However, the Japanese title is just a plain "2" which indicates a narrative or full sequel of Black & White or something in the ball park of Final Fantasy X-2 & XIII-2; that sounds quite exciting.

the asylum · « **Reply #28 on:** February 26, 2012, 02:49:44 AM »

So this is an expansion pack of sorts?

Traveller · « **Reply #29 on:** February 26, 2012, 03:38:10 AM »

Hmm from the 2 in the title I hope this is a direct sequel!

nickmitch · « **Reply #30 on:** February 26, 2012, 12:33:11 PM »

I'm curious as to how these games will work. I don't think they they're gonna be the sixth gen, but some more Pokemon are gonna be needed. Perhaps there will be more Pokemon from earlier generations. But if it IS a sequel, will the journey still start the same way? You pick your starter, set out for adventures and save the world? I don't think it would be the same game with extras tacked on to the end because of the "2" thing. But that does beg the question of will we be picking from the same starters, importing our BW data or what.

TJ Spyke · « **Reply #31 on:** February 26, 2012, 12:34:54 PM »

Quote from: Enner on February 26, 2012, 01:54:27 AM

The English subtitle of "Version 2" indicated to me that the game will be a great big content patch or expansion pack like the other third versions of Pokemon generations. However, the Japanese title is just a plain "2" which indicates a narrative or full sequel of Black & White or something in the ball park of Final Fantasy X-2 & XIII-2; that sounds quite exciting.

Don't read too much into the "Version" part, that is in EVERY game outside of Japan. For example, technically "Pokemon Diamond" was "Pokemon Diamond Version".

red14 · « **Reply #32 on:** February 26, 2012, 01:01:27 PM »

....I think I get it when they talk about "2d on the 3ds". Ya know when you play a ds game on 3ds its a square screen because its made for ds. They'l probly make it a full sreen on the 3ds or something like that. That's a good idea i think, a better presentation for the 3ds owners! If that's the case.

Webmalfunction · « **Reply #33 on:** February 26, 2012, 03:24:20 PM »

red14, that's what I was guessing.

With that said, I have no idea if that's even possible.

NWR_insanolord · « **Reply #34 on:** February 26, 2012, 03:27:08 PM »

Nintendo has done that kind of thing before, and it wouldn't be surprising to me if they did a few things like that assuming they had the foresight to design the system in a way that it's possible.

Shaymin · « **Reply #35 on:** February 26, 2012, 03:36:56 PM »

I don't trust that Nintendo had the foresight to design it that way, unfortunately.

For them though, this is a wise move - these are going to be system sellers, either selling the last of the DSs that they make a mint on, or 3DSs to expand the userbase for that system even if it's a suboptimal experience. Either way, win-win.

NWR_insanolord · « **Reply #36 on:** February 26, 2012, 03:50:16 PM »

Yeah, foresight hasn't historically been one of Nintendo's strong suits. And from a business perspective I get why they'd want to wait so the massive upswing of 3DS sales that would come from the first real 3DS Pokemon game happens when they're not taking a loss on the hardware.

MegaByte · « **Reply #37 on:** February 26, 2012, 04:19:47 PM »

There were a few previous gen games that were able to detect that they were running on new hardware. But it might take a lot of work to actually make them able to use new hardware features.

Quote from: NWR_insanolord on February 26, 2012, 03:50:16 PM

And from a business perspective I get why they'd want to wait so the massive upswing of 3DS sales that would come from the first real 3DS Pokemon game happens when they're not taking a loss on the hardware.

That doesn't make sense unless there was some sort of target number that they wanted to hit by a certain time, otherwise, they just want to sell as many as possible. But the Pokemon games aren't 100% Nintendo-controlled anyway.

Klonoahedgehog · « **Reply #38 on:** February 26, 2012, 05:06:30 PM »

This is gonna be the greatest Pokemon game ever!

arealhead · « **Reply #39 on:** February 27, 2012, 05:33:21 AM »

At first I was hopeing for a ruby/saphire remake. Obviously we shall have to wait. However, there have . been clues to indicate they will be remaid. The most recent one is the colours on the new logo, red and blue. Whilst this may just indicate electricity/fire, I'll keeo my hopes up

However, onto the fact this game may be a sequel, not a remake. Obviously "2" indicates a continuation from the original story, but has anyone noticed the anime may give some clues. In 4 gen, it took ash the whole time between diamond/pearl to black/white to beat the league. Now he's approaching the 6th gym in just under a year. It was stated that the anime would be much faster than before. Is it possible that this is due to the fact that a further storyline will be revealed for ash to venture on by the time black 2 and white 2 come out? I hope they're sequel's, not remakes. But honestly, I'll buy them regardless, so long as ruby/sapphire come out on the 3DS. Actually I take that back. So long as they come out!

Caterkiller · « **Reply #40 on:** February 27, 2012, 11:44:47 AM »

Very short localization process. Coming out this Fall in Europe and America.

I wonder why? Hopefully this becomes the norm with future releases.

Webmalfunction · « **Reply #41 on:** February 27, 2012, 02:01:47 PM »

Yup. I was actually thinking about this earlier today, whether localization becomes a shorter amount of time as a series becomes higher profile. I mean, to copy TJ's post:

Red, Blue: 2 years, 7 months
Yellow, Gold, Silver: 1 year, 1 month
Emerald, FireRed, LeafGreen: 8 months
Crystal, Diamond, Pearl: 7 months
Platinum, HeartGold, SoulSilver, Black, White: 6 months
Ruby, Sapphire: 5 months
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Black 2, White 2: 3-4 months?

I mean, it's nothing more than a correlation at best, but besides Ruby, Sapphire, and one or two others, there seems to be a quickening of localization as the series progresses. Part of me wonders if Pokemon could soon be like 3D Land (10 days between Japan and US) or Skyward Sword (released in all territories within 6 days).

Mop it up · « **Reply #42 on:** February 27, 2012, 03:46:42 PM »

Well, this is certainly... odd. I guess there's no real information yet as to what these games are, but I have a bad feeling that it's still the same old enhanced version of the generation, but this time, they are making two versions of the special version. I'm sure they have noticed how crazy people are for the games, for whatever reason, and are going to push that even further than they already were.

nickmitch · « **Reply #43 on:** February 28, 2012, 12:41:20 AM »

Yeah, I'm sure they're just now realizing that people go crazy for Pokemon games. I mean, they only made so many Mystery Dungeon games.

Ian Sane · « **Reply #44 on:** February 28, 2012, 12:29:35 PM »

Is this a real sequel or a bullshit third version like Yellow, Crystal, etc? If after all this talk about how there would be no Pokemon Grey, if Nintendo is essentially releasing one but have now split the rip-off third game into two titles, well that would be pretty fucking lame. It would also make them liars and in that lawyer-speak technicality way as well, the WORST way.

I think it is sad that we have to wait and see if this a real sequel or not. When Nintendo announces a new Mario I never for a second assume it's just a re-release with a small amount of new content but for Pokemon I always do.

Adrock · « **Reply #45 on:** February 28, 2012, 02:48:30 PM »

No one is forcing you to buy it, nor would you need to. If you already have Black or White, you can just trade Pokiemanz with someone who has the new version over this wonderful invention known as the Internet. Isn't technology grand?

Ian Sane · « **Reply #46 on:** February 28, 2012, 04:58:56 PM »

No, no one is forcing me to buy it. But when a company makes a lousy product and idiots eat it up it still affects the people that don't buy it because the company is encouraged to make further lousy product which is typically in place of good product. Pokemon is a great example of that. The fans that are not complete suckers have to hunt through a large thornbush to access the sweet berries hidden within.

Adrock · « **Reply #47 on:** February 28, 2012, 06:43:32 PM »

What you call "a lousy product," I call "not for you." I presume you already own Black or White, correct? While Nintendo certainly wouldn't mind people who already own the original Black/White double dipping, the 3rd/4th version of Pokemon games (like Yellow and Crystal) always seemed geared toward people who don't have any version of the game. I look at them in the same vein as Game of the Year Editions or Unrated versions of movies that have like 4 minutes of additional footage reinserted in the theatrical cut. Some people wait for that version (I did for Uncharted 2), some people like double dipping for their collections and whatnot. The suckers are the people who buy these versions and don't know better. For example, if someone bought Pokemon Blue then a year later bought Pokemon Yellow expecting it to be a completely different game. It's the same game with minimal changes. It's not for you. If anything, it's for people like me (even though I haven't bought Pokemon anything for myself since Blue and don't plan on buying any version of Black/White). If you have Black/White, move on. Pokemon 3DS is coming.

Caterkiller · « **Reply #48 on:** March 12, 2012, 01:04:47 PM »

I am no sucker and I buy the updated versions purely for competitive reasons or to be able to hold more pokemon.

But Corocoro states that this game is indeed a brand new story with new features. I am not sure yet if it is in the same land or what. Cause Crystal, Emerald, and Platinum were all "new stories" with new features as well. Still not sure if this is Grey X2.

http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml

In June the Global Link will go down for renovation, when it's back up it will include B&W2.

I guess no new evolutions...

nickmitch · « **Reply #49 on:** March 12, 2012, 01:17:14 PM »

Platinum had the most new story, but they were all essentially the same as their counterparts with one new thing added. In crystal, it was Suicune; in Emerald it was Rayquaza; in Platinum, it was Giratina. In all cases, you got the same plot with some newness kind of tacked on at the end. By "new story" I'm hoping they mean new plot from start to finish.

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