Topic: MGS4: An Informal Review

[D_Average]

Thank the Daoists for learning to cook anything in Chinese cuisine.

But Nintendo is a JAPANESE COMPANY, so they must have their hearts fresh and raw.

Touche'

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

I mean, doesn't that count as a terribly stupid attempt at a counter-attack?

No, because there was no definitive product line/strategy to push it or utilize it.  It's mostly just there; Warhawking for massive damage and Lair didn't lead anywhere.  With no significant game development surrounding the feature, it's announcement/inclusion can be seen mostly as an attempt to steal Nintendo's thunder in the mindshare arena.

[Peachylala]

I love how this thread turned into posts about Sony/Microsoft ripping off Nintendo's ideas.

My favorite in the series is still MGS2, while it had cutscenes at least Kojima was forced to cut them down a bit.

Considering how insane the story got, I'm glad they forced him to do that.

[Morari]

It's a good thing that MGS2's story did eventually become "insane", because plot wise it was boring and an utter rehash up until that point. Obviously, it being a rehash was explained away once the story did pick up. The first installment of Solid was my favorite. I haven't played Snake Eater (or MGS4) yet, as they've not seen a PC release and probably won't. Too bad, I've always liked the series.

[GoldenPhoenix]

It's a good thing that MGS2's story did eventually become "insane", because plot wise it was boring and an utter rehash up until that point. Obviously, it being a rehash was explained away once the story did pick up. The first installment of Solid was my favorite. I haven't played Snake Eater (or MGS4) yet, as they've not seen a PC release and probably won't. Too bad, I've always liked the series.

MGS1 did seem to have a good balance between gameplay and story, from there on out as storage increased the more we got to watch the game rather than play it.

[NWR_Lindy]

I loved MGS4.  My only real beef was that after you beat the final boss, you sit there and watch the ending of the game for literally an hour.  I loved the cut scenes, but the ending went on WAY too long (especially since I was watching it at 3am and desperately wanted to go to bed).

[Bill Aurion]

I found myself just SITTING there for 90% of the game...

[NWR_Lindy]

I didn't think it was that bad, aside from the ending.  I picked up the controller at 1:30am for the final boss (Screaming Mantis), beat her by maybe 2am, and the ending of the credits completed at 4am.  In that two hour interim is maybe 15 minutes of gameplay, tops.  The rest is all movie.

[GoldenPhoenix]

I didn't think it was that bad, aside from the ending.  I picked up the controller at 1:30am for the final boss (Screaming Mantis), beat her by maybe 2am, and the ending of the credits completed at 4am.  In that two hour interim is maybe 15 minutes of gameplay, tops.  The rest is all movie.

15 minutes of gameplay, don't complain about that it is STILL about 1/8th of the entire gameplay in the game. Can't please anyone!

[Peachylala]

Here's my personal summery of all four MGS games stories:

MGS: Dramatic and made sense.
MGS2: Insane and somehow made some sense.
MGS3: Gave some insight to Big Boss but left me having more questions then answers. Also shows Konami having something against woman with The Boss. Seriously, and I thought MGS4 was bad.
MGS4: NANOMACHINES NANOMACHINES LIQUID NANOMACHINES NANOMACHINES PATROITS NANOMACHINES NANOMACHINES NANOMACHINES NANOMACHINES NANOMACHINES NANOMACHINES SOP NANOMACHINES NANOMACHINES ANOTHER HALF-HOUR CUTSCENE NANOMACHINES NANOMACHINES NANOMACHINES NANOMACHINES BIG BOSS.

[NWR_Lindy]

MGS4: NANOMACHINES NANOMACHINES LIQUID NANOMACHINES NANOMACHINES PATROITS NANOMACHINES NANOMACHINES NANOMACHINES NANOMACHINES NANOMACHINES NANOMACHINES SOP NANOMACHINES NANOMACHINES ANOTHER HALF-HOUR CUTSCENE NANOMACHINES NANOMACHINES NANOMACHINES NANOMACHINES BIG BOSS.

LOL so true.  By the end I was like, "SHUT UP about the nanomachines already!"

Also, Zach and I were discussing how Raiden is absolutely freaking indestructible.  "No arms?  No jaw?  No problem."

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

I'M THE BLACK KNIGHT

I'M INVINNNNNNNNNCIBLLLLLLLLLEEE

[Morari]

It's only a flesh wound!

[NWR_Lindy]

Also, as Zach and I were discussing, Raiden magically develops the ability to summon lightning bolts from the heavens in order to kill enemy guards.

To any Tolkien dorks out there, Raiden is basically like the Giant Eagles in LOTR.  Anytime the hero looks like he's screwed, in swoops Raiden/Giant Eagle.

Gwaihir the Wind Lord/Raiden FTW.

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

More like BEAT the Bird from Mega Man, but even dumber looking.

[KDR_11k]

To any Tolkien dorks out there, Raiden is basically like the Giant Eagles in LOTR.  Anytime the hero looks like he's screwed, in swoops Raiden/Giant Eagle.

For pure lulz I'd have referenced the 13.5 Lives of Captain Bluebear where the amnimal in question is called Deus X Machina.