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Offline MagicBeans

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New Zelda Gamecube game after Windwaker?
« on: March 30, 2003, 01:30:06 PM »
Hey, I heard that there is going to be yet another Zelda game for Gamecube after Windwaker, ad that it's approaching fast... Does anyone have any info on this? I NEED TO KNOW!!! Thanks!
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« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2003, 02:41:48 PM »
We probably arent going to here much on the sequel until E3 or later.  WW just came out, I would think E3 would be the very earliest that we will here anything about the sequel.  

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« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2003, 03:38:28 PM »
Yes, there supposedly is one, but I know little about.  I think it's rumored to be called The Legend Forgot(ten).  Not sure if it's forgot or forgotten.  Something like that.  But I have no information other than that.
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« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2003, 05:09:45 PM »
Well, a while back Miyamoto had commented that he wanted to start working on another GC Zelda this year. Unfortunately I can't remember where I read that but it was an actual quote. On the other hand though I don't think they have started on the next one just yet. A lot of smaller unreliable sites were saying that Miyamoto had confirmed that a new GC would be shown at this years E3 but that was simply a fan boyish distortion of what was said in the Feb. DICE interview. What the interview lead me to believe is that they have in fact not started on the game. It certainly didn't confirm that they had already started on the next one and that it would be shown at E3 anyway. Since they are now done with Wind Waker they will probably help Capcom finish up the new GBA Zelda and make sure it's ready for E3 and then start on the next GC Zelda.

My own prediction is that anyone who hopes the next Zelda will be realistic will more than likely be disappointed. I have a feeling they will do another Majora's Mask in that they will use the same graphics and engine from Wind Waker for the next game. If they do it like that I hope though that unlike Majora's Mask it's a full on Zelda game and not just a side quest deal thrown out there so there won't be as long of a wait between Zelda games.  

One more thing, I think all the The Legend Forgotten stuff was actually referring to the GBA Zelda. The reason why I feel this way is that the site that reported it never actually said it was a GC game. Also just a week or two after that report Miyamoto confirmed that Capcom had been working on a new GBA Zelda since 2001 and that it would be shown at this years E3. Even if they were referring to a new GC game then that means they were just making it up. If they are right and the Legend Forgotten is the working title then I hope the game is supposed to fill in some of the gaps for the timeline. That title makes it seem like that will be the case anyway. I hope Capcom makes this new game more serious and much much better than the Ages games though. Something more a long the lines of A Link to the Past with improvements would be excellent.
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« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2003, 05:28:44 PM »
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My own prediction is that anyone who hopes the next Zelda will be realistic will more than likely be disappointed.


I certainly hope you are right, but my gut feeling says otherwise.

But yeah, excellent and informative post.  I have nothing to add.
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« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2003, 09:40:17 AM »
Well, let's not get too into the cel-shading thing here...  I love it.  But I don't think they should use it all the time.  Either way I don't really care, but I just like to see some variety.  I heard that Myamoto said that the next Zelda would be realistic and they would be using the spaceworld models.  In fact, I think that was on PGC a little while back.

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« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2003, 10:03:30 AM »
Since I was there when Miyamoto and Aonuma were talking about that, let me clarify.  They gave a very distinct impression that they had just finished wrapping up The Wind Waker and had not even determined what direction they would go with for the next Zelda game.  They did say that they toon-shading probably would not be as appropriate for a game with adult Link.  Miyamoto also commented that they had all the assets from the Spaceworld demo from a few years back if they determined to go the realistic route.

What it all really amounts to is talk and speculation even on Miyamoto and Aonuma's parts.  They don't even know what they're going to do for the next Zelda game.  
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« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2003, 05:22:55 PM »
I recall Miyamoto saying that he probably wouldn't use the same system for a Zelda game again, in an interview.  He may, but it seems unlikely.  I don't care either way, though.

I don't know why everyone wants another full-on story thing again.  You can't have those all the time; side quests are fun, too.  And you know that the game doesn't feel like a side quest as you play it, just when you look back, after the ending.

I don't know about the Legend Forgotten thing, but what I read said it was the tentative title of the GC one.
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« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2003, 06:48:13 PM »
I would love a realistic zelda but I think if they do a sequel to WW they should use the cel-shading.  I just think  it would make more sense.  I'm starting to see why they needed to use cel-shading for WW.  The environments are so freaking huge and they need to be able to have that further draw distance.
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« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2003, 07:19:55 PM »
Well , i would like the original renderers back , remember the Spaceworld 2000 video , we all dropped our jaws and THIS is what we get
They have to fill the gaps in the storyline , dont create a sidequest , dont use cel shading , make this one GOOD , LEGENDARY please make me cry at the end
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« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2003, 07:30:38 PM »
Yeah, doing Wind Waker with realistic style graphics would have been next to impossible. Probably the biggest thing is they wouldn't have been able to do the sea right. With the size of the sea in mind I just don't think they could have pulled it off with realistic graphics. Not to mention it would have really limited the game in a lot of other areas as well where the cartoony graphics free things up. Miyamoto even said that one of the reasons why he doesn't like doing super realistic games is because if you are trying to make everything realistic it really limits what you are able to do with the game. After playing Wind Waker I totally understand what he meant.

One thing I hope is that in the next game we return to a more land orientated setting. Don't get me wrong the sailing and sea is great in Wind Waker and is a nice break from what we usually get from a Zelda game but I can't even stand the idea that it could possibly be that way in the next game. I actually don't want the whole sailing thing totally thrown out because it's been on my Zelda wish list for a long time. Instead I would rather see like 4 or 5 large islands and maybe just a couple of small ones that would still equal the size of Wind Waker's overworld. That way while there would still be sailing the game wouldn't revolve around it like Wind Waker and instead you would spend most of your time on nice dry land. Oh, and for god sakes can we please have an actual forest in the next one. I took it from the very first video of Wind Waker that there would be actual forests with individual trees but that isn't the case. That's one of the few things I've been disappointed with Wind Waker.
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« Reply #11 on: April 01, 2003, 09:39:14 AM »
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I would like to see how they do a sequel to Wind Walker. Since the game's finale was conclusive in many ways. But then again they may opt to do a side story in lue of the full blowen sequel to give themselves time to do a sequel.





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« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2003, 10:04:10 AM »
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Instead I would rather see like 4 or 5 large islands and maybe just a couple of small ones that would still equal the size of Wind Waker's overworld.


I was also hoping for more larger islands like Outset and Dragon Roost, but overall I'm happy.
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« Reply #13 on: April 01, 2003, 10:16:29 AM »
I love the whole sailing thing.  I've always thought that would be such a cool idea to have in a video game.  I don't mind the time it takes since the advantage is how incredibly huge the world feels.  It's just so sweet to sail around.  I guess that's because I like boating so much :-)  It really makes the whole thing feel like one big planet.  Like a real place.  There are no walls hiding the end of the world or places where you could just fall off the map.  It's a world unto itself.  Incredible.  I don't really care if they do it again or not, although I'd like to see it all with realistic graphics.  Not that I don't like the cell shading, I think it's really cool too.  I don't think they'll do the sailing thing again because Myamoto likes to do something different each time.

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« Reply #14 on: April 01, 2003, 02:45:36 PM »
PvtDaryl, take a gander back at those pics.  First, those're cinematics, I believe, so the quality of the actual games wouldn't be that good (and it was only a minute or so long, making detail easy).  Second, they still look rather goofy next to cel-shading, like the Soul Caliber 2 Link.  He looks less realistic with realistic graphics.
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