Topic: Losing faith

[PvtDaryl]

Ok , i LOVE zelda , always have , always will , so ofcourse i got the new one as soon as possible

I havent played much because my sisters been hogging the damn gaemcube , so i got to play it today and i got to the Tower of the Gods , so far the game has been pointless

Collecting pearls for no reason , traeling the seas with these worthless maps , what the hell!

I love OoT with my heart , but im losing faith in Wind waker , someone please tell me it gets better and theres a point to this story of going from island to island collecting pearls....

It seems like a crappy copy of Oot , someone inform me

[yellowfellow]

you have no idea

[PvtDaryl]

no idea? uh.... im only in the Tower of the Gods , i guess its like having the three emblem thingies  in Oot in "Act 1" as they call it , hmmm you see the resemblence

["Sky"]

First off... the sea is only worthless if you don't like doing side quests. I find the sea a great idea and I find myself doing a lot of stuff such as searching for the hidden submarine or just a tower to fight at, and finding the island and doing a side quest. It's something that's of aquired taste I guess. If you like non-linearity and plenty of side quests, the sea is one of the best things to hit gaming, if you don't then too bad, but even so it isn't necessarily a "flaw".

And... you got the pearls and found the tower correct? I think it's quite obvious why you found the pearls now...  

[Marcus Arillius]

I like the game more and more everytime I play it.  I actually have to  limit myself from playing. (I haven't done any of my schoolwork for college, I stayed up til' 4 in morn playing yesterday.)
I just think the sea is too big.  They should have put things closer together.  (My little brother has been hoging the cube just as your sister is.)

[PvtDaryl]

No i don tlike side quests , Majoras Mask traumatized me , but w/e im not into that but theres alot of oppurtunity for those "side-questy" ppl

Anyways , no i havent entered the Tower , I know i had to collect them to ...open a portal or something , but i havent gotten to that part

All im saying is i see no point in the story :/ ........yet

[TheResidentEvil]

After the temple for tyhe gods it takes a drastic plunge more serious. But yes, overall its more lighthearted but still kicks a lotta ass.

[VideoGamerX]

Actually, it's like collecting the three pendants in A Link to the Past. Ummm... see the resemblance? Ocarina of Time borrowed heavily from a winning formula and Wind Waker does the same. Why? Because that's how the Legend of Zelda goes. He who collects three symbols of valor, the master sword he shall then retrieve. Does that sound familiar?

So far I'm having a lot of fun with this game. Other than damage reduction being dumbed down quite a bit, the game still plays the exact same. If we were taking decent amounts of damage, the game would have a lot better balance.

I don't see how the story seems pointless to you. I think you haven't figured out who some of the characters are. You're close to a part of the turning point. It'll start to make a lot more sense to you once you go to retrieve the master sword and go to save Link's sister.

In my opinion, Wind Waker has brought some of the most interesting story to the table of any Zelda game in a decade. I'm really liking this.

[Gibdo Master]

I have a feeling that PvtDaryl's first Zelda game was Ocarina and that he has never bothered to play any of the games released before that. If he had he wouldn't be complaining at all about Wind Waker. I think it's funny how just about all the supposed fans that came in when Ocarina was released bitch the most. They have this warped idea that Ocarina is the end all be all of the series when that is far from the truth. They just don't understand what the series is about and for some reason Ocarina always gives newbies to the series a very warped idea of what the series is about. The exception to that is when they actually bother to go back and play the older games.

[PvtDaryl]

ok now thats TOO Much spoiling for one day
please stop that

I know it will get better , i remember Oot (A link to the past wasnt in "my" time i was 9 when Oot came out so )
when you had to collect the three thingies , and then it got GOOD , i remmeber my friend gave up after Jabu Jabu , and i slapped him cause hhe said it sucked
So , what the hell is up with this 2 Act based storylines , and the elements , Fire  , Water , Wind , is it because of the Nayru Farore and Din?

Well , i DONT remember that crap you said , because i didnt play it ,   but i do know the story , and what happens
I was just having my doubts , i know it'll get good

Thanks anyways  

[PvtDaryl]

No man your wrong  

- i have played all the other zeldas (except Ages and Seasons)
-ive only beaten the newer ones  (Oot , MM , LA(DX))
-but , ive read the stories , and i understand the storyline fine
-yes my first was Oot
-I just had my doubts and expected it to be straight Oot storyline , and i didnt see the creativity in it
 
I just love storylines , its the MOST important thing in a game to me , ill stop bitching now and finish the game

and another thing , all that exploring the seas and stuff , i hate that , i cant stand exploration id rather die trying to beat a boss or something , thats why i love Oot and HATE MM

[Gibdo Master]

Well I don't know if this is true or not but I've heard that when Miyamoto starts working on a new Zelda game he basically takes the last one that was released and slowly makes changes and modifications till you have a new game. If that's true it would explain why each game since A Link to the Past has had the same basic two part setup.

[PvtDaryl]

Ive never heard of that

i mean , zelda 1 and 2 were ...basically.....no story , kind of ,  i didnt bother to beat them they jsut didnt seam to fit in you know

hmmmm i dont know , MM was a side story

Wind waker is   , kind of told in a storyline , in the future  i mean ive only gotten to the Tower of the Gods , and i think this is how it is

Link died , the "hero of time" and his story is being faded so thin its a legend now , so then ganon arose again cause he cant die....right thats what i heard , and now they exepcted a hero to arise , but no one did , so hope bbalhbabalbhal its in the begnning , so i guess its like the Matrix , the soul of the hero to be born into th ebody of another , like Neo was destined  to be the "one" just like this new kid , so he really isnt Link....i think.....hes just another kid destined by the triforce to be the enforced of courage or something  

i remmber in Jabun , the king of red lions said something like " No he isnt related to the hero , but he has the courage" so basically hes the "One" ,

now zelda....what the hell....how the hell is she here! i mean ganon "doesnt die" so why the hell is zelda here!!! i havent even seen her yet but i know here , dont spoil it it just doesnt add it

[PvtDaryl]

add up*

[Link]

When I first started playing, it seemed alot like the movie Waterworld to me. After playing for about 10 hours now....

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It's more like Waterworld than I could have ever thought. After the Tower of the Gods, I can now see why the ocean is so large.
It ties everything with previous games up so nicely; even the original LoZ. It's a thing of beauty.



































***end spoiler stuff***
Seriously though. I can't see you ever getting into this game. If you're talking like that about it so far; worthless this, crappy that. Probably nothing will come up that you will like.

[Gibdo Master]

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Originally posted by: PvtDaryl
No man your wrong  

- i have played all the other zeldas (except Ages and Seasons)
-ive only beaten the newer ones  (Oot , MM , LA(DX))
-but , ive read the stories , and i understand the storyline fine
-yes my first was Oot
-I just had my doubts and expected it to be straight Oot storyline , and i didnt see the creativity in it
 
I just love storylines , its the MOST important thing in a game to me , ill stop bitching now and finish the game

and another thing , all that exploring the seas and stuff , i hate that , i cant stand exploration id rather die trying to beat a boss or something , thats why i love Oot and HATE MM

Again you have completely missed the point of Zelda. How can you say you don't like the exploration when exploration has been a crucial part of each and every game? Hell, exploration is what the series is about. You say that you have at least played the older games but I have to think it was a really short period of time that you played them in and that you didn't get very far. Since you hate the exploration in Wind Waker so much it completely makes sense that you couldn't beat The Legend of Zelda, Adventures of Link, and A Link to the Past. With Ocarina that damn fairy Navi tells you everywhere you are supposed to go so I can believe that you beat that. You probably used a some kind of guide for Majora's Mask and Link's Awakening though right?
 

[Kimchi]

Here's an idea.  Play for another hour.  That stuff should be explained by then (give or take a little depending on how quickly you play).  I don't want to spoil anything for you, so I'll just say that things are explained in a way that it basically wraps up a whole connection between WW and OoT (and MM)..

[PvtDaryl]

Nope ive never used guides for any zelda  

Only to find some masks and heart pieces you know

that would eliminate exploration , hmmm thats why Metroid Prime was such a good game that i didnt like much

ok ill just shut up now , and beat wind waker

you know , i know alot of people who skip through all the cutscenes , and dont read anything , and that pisses me off , so why the hell you getting mad at me?

I just love going from dungeon to dungeon sort of like the original LoZ , i dont like sailing for 26 mninutes to get to some island to trade this and that and that it gets tedious and i get hesitant  

I dont know i just cant explore when i know that this X dungeon is open and waiting for me , if the game said take your time and explore id do it for hours and hours but i just cant do that becasue to me it seems like im wastign my time . Yeah , Oot has been drilled into my brain , after this one im going to beat A link to the past for GBA its way too hard on the PC                              

[Gibdo Master]

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Originally posted by: PvtDaryl
I just love going from dungeon to dungeon sort of like the original LoZ , i dont like sailing for 26 mninutes to get to some island to trade this and that and that it gets tedious and i get hesitant  

I dont know i just cant explore when i know that this X dungeon is open and waiting for me , if the game said take your time and explore id do it for hours and hours but i just cant do that becasue to me it seems like im wastign my time.

I can understand what you are saying there. The characters and the story do kind of create a sense of pressure that you have to get to the next dungeon as soon as possible. You just have to realize though that even if you spent an entire real year just exploring the sea that the dungeons will still be there waiting for you just the same as if you went there immediately. Therefore there isn't really any pressure. It's really just an attempt to give a better story and part of that is trying to give a sense of urgency and impending doom if you don't do this now. That would be the case if you were really there. Also for most people it's kind of motivation for them to continue playing the game.
 

[PvtDaryl]

Well , let me explain specifically

I jsut got into the Tower of Gods , and im not going to get out to do alot of stuff ive been wanting to do. Also , the King of the Red lions told me that if i had to do something that i should do it NOW.  Theres pressure , and all this talk abotu another world , anottehr quest , remember im not that far into the game to understand ANYTHING. Im just afraid that i wont have a chance to do it later. Theres so much to do though , in the sea and all. I wanna get to a point where i can take a break , and  explore and find new stuff. But all this pressure in the storyline is keeping me away from it.  Im just afraid of not having a chance to go back , i was going to work on updrading my swordsman levels on Outset , but the King of the red lions was like GET YOUR ASS OVER HERE AND PLACE THE PEARLS.

[StRaNgE]

the 1st few dungeons that red boat made me think I had to go straight to the next in a hurry. I skipped a lot due to that but  now I am at a point where he is telling me it's ok to kick back and talk with the creatures of the sea, so I am going around  doing the map and treasue searching and stuff, I still have only one damn bottle though.

This game is great and  as soon as you save your sister the story becomes even deeper then OOT. The two are hand and hand .

just sign the hell out of the forum and go play, your alomost to that point, after that you have to do exploring for certain items and quest  which take the place of the large dungeons almost  like mini ones.

[PvtDaryl]

ok thanks

ill stop my bitching now ive heard alot of stuff about it reading through the forums , you know thes first game i ever cried at the end was Zelda

[Giolon]

PvtDaryl...I have to say one thing...KEEP PLAYING.  Without spoiling anything, you are literally at the point where the game kicks into high gear for a while.  You will probably crap your pants fairly shortly after you get through with the Tower of the Gods.  You are about to have so much dumped into your lap that you will be smothered.  Until that point, yes Wind Waker does seem pointless.

[Bloodworth]

Closing this down.  It's basically come to a close on it's own anyways.