Author Topic: nintendo bring about PGC's downfall (Read 7787 times)

PIAC · « **on:** March 27, 2003, 12:11:38 AM »

ive been sitting here for like the last hour or two staring blankly at the un activity here on the PGC forums, and i for one blame nintendo!! the NTSCers have Zelda, the europeans have just recieved Metroid Prime, and us australians (im talking to Mario on MSN as we speak) are left here waiting and wanting.

but relife IS at hand, and that hand is only a week away in the shape of Metroid Prime and Pokemon R/S, hooray

Mario · « **Reply #1 on:** March 27, 2003, 12:17:57 AM »

Well at least the wait is almost over, Pokemon and Metroid Prime's release dates are only 6 days, 1 hour and 40 minutes away, until then us aussies can all just twiddle our thumbs while we wonder what dungeon the Americans are up to in Wind Waker.

PIAC · « **Reply #2 on:** March 27, 2003, 12:21:05 AM »

the wind waker... please... dont mention that name, it hurts to think about it *hugs snorlax doll atop monitor for support*
they could have atleast given us OoT/MQ to keep us entertained untill it comes out, i mean, specially considering my 64 died and i cant play OoT or MM on it

Termin8Anakin · « **Reply #3 on:** March 27, 2003, 12:51:58 AM »

what? how did ur N64 die?
Mine is just fine.

Nephilim · « **Reply #4 on:** March 27, 2003, 04:22:39 AM »

Nintendo dont care about Australians.....
they care about australian pokemon fans....but thats about it

KrazyJ1098 · « **Reply #5 on:** March 27, 2003, 04:37:19 AM »

hope you aussies enjoy zelda and metroid prime. i know i am. us bloody americans.

Nintendork SP · « **Reply #6 on:** March 27, 2003, 04:39:06 AM »

GO OUTSIDE! It is nice in Aussie land.

EL Pollo DIablos · « **Reply #7 on:** March 27, 2003, 05:34:20 AM »

The topic title is a bit odd consedering that without nintendo PGC woulnd't even excist.
But I know what u mean. We in Europe aren't that for ahead of u guys in aussieland.

EL Pollo Diablos

Kai · « **Reply #8 on:** March 27, 2003, 06:01:56 AM »

Yeah, I know what you mean. The aussie forums are great, but not so busy, and the international forums where I usually hang out are just about exploding with Zelda topics. I just got my hands on Resident Evil 0 for Pete's sakes.

There was a comic on Penny Arcade about having to wait five months between Metroid - Zelda. But the last game I bought for the 'cube that I really felt was worth $100 was Pikmin back in October. I did try Mario Sunshine but I didn't really find it to be that good.

At least we get V-Rally, here's hoping it's good. It would be good if Nintendo could find some way to shorten these delays between NTSC>>Europe>>Rest of the world.

PIAC · « **Reply #9 on:** March 27, 2003, 07:52:29 AM »

i do go out side

but like, after a hard day at work theres nothing i like more than coming home and having an adventure etc. also the topic was a joke, i didn't really mean Nintendo would destroy PlanetGameCube.com.

oh and Termin8anikin it just sort of... didn't turn on one day

i dont know why or how but like... its heart stopped beating and now it doesn't work

edit: this is a long shot but.... Kai do you happen to work at Camp Hill woolworths in the Service Deli??

Grey Ninja · « **Reply #10 on:** March 27, 2003, 09:04:28 AM »

I feel sorry for you guys. I always hate waiting 2 days for my games in Canada, but I can't imagine having to wait months after the US release.

Why are you guys on PAL anyways? Why don't you get NTSC? It would make a lot more sense I think, then you wouldn't have to wait for the European release.

EL Pollo DIablos · « **Reply #11 on:** March 27, 2003, 09:44:39 AM »

Well first there is the money thing. It just costs more to import it all( with port costst).
And second sometimes they make improvements (like metroid which I thinkis an huge improvement cause now it is more difficult.)
Well for other reasons I can't think of any reasons , well maybe to much effort.
but I got a mate who imports all his games for NGC.
So I think i'll buy a Freeloader soon

El Pollo Diablos

JoeFalco · « **Reply #12 on:** March 27, 2003, 10:06:39 AM »

I sympathize for all of you who have to wait months after the Japanese and US releases. Myself, I have to wait a while to put together enough money to buy the games. By the time I buy what I want, it's already been 8 months after the game has been on the market and there are very few left at my local game shop. ;_;

Termin8Anakin · « **Reply #13 on:** March 27, 2003, 10:31:45 AM »

I know that we all have to wait a few months for a game to release here after the Japanese and US releases, but it's not like we have wads of cash either. We too, my dear JoeFalco, have to scrape enough money from our Parents/Relatives/Job/Friends/Christmas/Birthday/Chinese New Year Lucky Money to get games, and that, normally, takes time as well. Well, not if you have a job where you have enough money to buy a game every week.

Termin8Anakin · « **Reply #14 on:** March 27, 2003, 10:37:07 AM »

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Originally posted by: Grey Ninja
Why are you guys on PAL anyways? Why don't you get NTSC? It would make a lot more sense I think, then you wouldn't have to wait for the European release.

PAL is actually the format, i think. It's just that you guys are too lazy to convert to the newer, clearer, format. As are the rest of the developers making games. I think it's stupid how developers in PAL regions like the UK have to make their games in NTSC format first. Why? They are in the PAL regions, so wy not make PAL games first?
If that were so, we would have had all of Rare's games months before all of you fellas. Haha.

Termin8Anakin · « **Reply #15 on:** March 27, 2003, 10:37:40 AM »

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Originally posted by: Grey Ninja
Why are you guys on PAL anyways? Why don't you get NTSC? It would make a lot more sense I think, then you wouldn't have to wait for the European release.

PAL is actually the superior format, i think. It's just that you guys are too lazy to convert to the newer, clearer, format. As are the rest of the developers making games. I think it's stupid how developers in PAL regions like the UK have to make their games in NTSC format first. Why? They are in the PAL regions, so wy not make PAL games first?
If that were so, we would have had all of Rare's games months before all of you fellas. Haha.

Grey Ninja · « **Reply #16 on:** March 27, 2003, 01:15:24 PM »

Actually, it's only the new PAL sets that are superior to NTSC. In the old days, you guys were at 50Hz, while NTSC was at 60Hz. It's only the more recent 60Hz PAL sets that are superior in any way.

Most of the new technology in the world comes from Japan or the US. Those countries are both NTSC, which leads one to wonder why PAL even exists. It just makes it harder for game developers and movie makers to ship their products worldwide, as the difference in the formats is enough to be a serious bother.

I think that Australia would get games much faster if it was NTSC myself, as then Canada/US/Mexico/Australia could all get games more or less simultaneously, rather than Australia having to wait for the European release, which must be converted to PAL, and translated into multiple languages.

Uncle Rich AiAi · « **Reply #17 on:** March 27, 2003, 02:57:29 PM »

what i don't get is why doesn't the whole world agree to one TV format standard?

i know it would take time and money for a country to change it's format, but i would make things easier down the road

Aussie Ben PGC · « **Reply #18 on:** March 28, 2003, 02:59:59 AM »

It would make a lot more sense to have one standard video format, but it didn't happen like that. Here's a paragraph that stood out for me on one site:

There are three dominating standards in use around the world, NTSC, PAL, and SECAM. These three formats have developed in different parts of the world for historic reasons. Since so many televisions and VCRs are already installed everywhere, it is hard to convert everyone to one standard.

Unfortunately, it doesn't mention those 'historic reasons'. But seeing as video game companies divide their video games into regions (similar to DVD regions) even if there was only one video format, Europe, Australia and other countries would most likely still be getting games at varied times from the US. You also have to take into consideration local holidays - big releases generally come out sometime in November to get the Thanksgiving sales. I have no idea what Thanksgiving is, but I know it involves turkeys, guys in black hats and apparently presents. Whereas in Australia, the hot games are usually clumped together in mid-December for Christmas, making buying games a real headache at that time.

There's all sorts of factors that affect game release dates - holidays, conversions, language translations, trademark issues (for example, the whole "Starfox/Starwing" thing) and sometimes, games are only released in certain countries, causing problems if sequels eventuate.

One big example of this is the whole "Gameboy Gallery/Game & Watch Gallery" thing. In Australia and Europe, a really simple game called Gameboy Gallery was released, featuring a couple of Game & Watch games. Later on, Japan made a game called Gameboy Gallery, which came to the US and Europe as Game & Watch Gallery, but to Australia as Gameboy Gallery 2. Subsequent sequels followed this trend, with Australia reaching Gameboy Gallery 5. To further confuse things, Japan brought out Gameboy Gallery Advance. It was brought out in the US as Game & Watch Gallery 4, and to Europe and Australia as Game & Watch Gallery Advance. (Australia probably got tired of re-editing the manuals and Title Screens for such a trivial reason, and started afresh).

So there you go. Take away the PAL/NTSC problem and you'd still have a whole slew of other things to cause you to wait for your favourite games. Metroid Prime is quite good though, and I like it even though most 1st person games just make me feel sick. There's additional stuff added to the PAL version of Metroid Prime to compensate for the wait. I know there's more difficult gameplay (ex. lava eats away at your health much faster), voice narration, new movies and tougher enemies. Have fun.

And now I sleep.

Tride15 · « **Reply #19 on:** March 28, 2003, 06:48:26 AM »

Don't be too sad, the game is half sucky. I've only gotten pas tthe second dungeon but so far I'm disappointed. It is fun, just not as fun as I would like and definitely not as fun as other people make it out to be. Heck, I had more fun with Skies of Arcadia Legends, which wasn't super great and I am now selling. Yeah, it was fun but there was nothing special about it. It was lacking in the story department. And I don't like RPGs anyway. Most of them. Don't worry about Zelda. It's all right. Not perfect. Worth about $25. Just play Metroid Prime while you wait. Do you even have Metroid Prime. Gosh. Well. Bye.

Grey Ninja · « **Reply #20 on:** March 28, 2003, 10:23:39 AM »

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Originally posted by: Tride15
Don't be too sad, the game is half sucky. I've only gotten pas tthe second dungeon but so far I'm disappointed. It is fun, just not as fun as I would like and definitely not as fun as other people make it out to be. Heck, I had more fun with Skies of Arcadia Legends, which wasn't super great and I am now selling. Yeah, it was fun but there was nothing special about it. It was lacking in the story department. And I don't like RPGs anyway. Most of them. Don't worry about Zelda. It's all right. Not perfect. Worth about $25. Just play Metroid Prime while you wait. Do you even have Metroid Prime. Gosh. Well. Bye.

I would just like to mention that I 100% disagree with everything this guy said.

PIAC · « **Reply #21 on:** March 29, 2003, 02:03:44 AM »

yeah okay, i dont want zelda anymore based on your opinion

i wont buy zelda anymore mmkay, ill stick to my life under a rock

yawn, opinions are great, except in the face of my increadible desire for the next installment in a series i love ^_^

I PLAYED A DEMO OF ZELDA TODAY AND OMG I WANT IT

you know the tears anime guys get down their faces, the kinda wavy ones? i had them ^_^ so... breathtaking... and beautifull

hurry up time :S i want july to come around

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Author Topic: nintendo bring about PGC's downfall (Read 7787 times)