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RE: Proof Knights own Samurais
« Reply #25 on: August 06, 2007, 07:04:24 PM »
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RE: Proof Knights own Samurais
« Reply #26 on: August 06, 2007, 07:06:08 PM »
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RE:Proof Knights own Samurais
« Reply #27 on: August 06, 2007, 07:07:25 PM »
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RE:Proof Knights own Samurais
« Reply #28 on: August 07, 2007, 08:00:49 AM »
Bad robot! You need a spanking. So do all the knights.

Hmm... looks like I'm out-numbered and out-gunned. I didn't bring enough paddles.

Ok, I'll let it go this time, but don't let me catch you war-mongering again.

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RE:Proof Knights own Samurais
« Reply #29 on: August 08, 2007, 03:22:32 AM »
Samurai are better than Knights, Ninjas, and Pirates combined.

If I was going to trust my safety and life to anyone it would be a Samurai, because I would trust their honor and commitment more.

A Claymore is a fantastic sword, but there is no way you will get the speed or precision with a Claymore that you can achieve with Katana...and you can hold Two Swords for better protection.

Now, personally I would go for the:

Anthropomorphic Samurai Space Rabbit;  Miyamoto Usagi, as I am sure he could handle anything thrown at him.
 

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RE:Proof Knights own Samurais
« Reply #30 on: August 08, 2007, 05:50:58 AM »
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Samurai are better than Knights, Ninjas, and Pirates combined.


Opinion, not fact.

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If I was going to trust my safety and life to anyone it would be a Samurai, because I would trust their honor and commitment more.


Now, if we're shifting to a debate on who would make a better bodyguard, then the Samurai Code would help. But a western knight could easily be just as loyal to the Code of Chivalry.

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A Claymore is a fantastic sword, but there is no way you will get the speed or precision with a Claymore that you can achieve with Katana...and you can hold Two Swords for better protection.


Don't underestimate the speed of a Greatsword. Most weighed only around eight pounds or so and could be swung pretty fast. And the Katana was a two-handed blade, in no way shape or form was it meant to be dual wielded. And the martial arts that do use twin blades tend to use shorter ones, which a Greatsword like a Zweihander would easily outreach.

Then again, I'm biased to the Greatsword as it was often overlooked and classified today as being some huge 30+ pound weapon. Which is ridiculous. In my opinion, the best weapon for average medieval troops would probably be a broadsword and shield. Greatswords were effective against heavily armored foes (I question the effectiveness of the Katana against heavy plate, I believe I heard ones that could pierce armor were made only during a few eras) and pike formations, but I'd give the average soldier the standard boradsword and shield combo.

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Now, personally I would go for the:

Anthropomorphic Samurai Space Rabbit;  Miyamoto Usagi, as I am sure he could handle anything thrown at him.


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RE: Proof Knights own Samurais
« Reply #31 on: August 08, 2007, 06:01:25 AM »
"A Claymore is a fantastic sword, but there is no way you will get the speed or precision with a Claymore that you can achieve with Katana...and you can hold Two Swords for better protection."

Katanas are VERY brittle in comparison to Western longswords, so in a one-on-one confrontation the samurai would most likely lose...(You know those anime scenes where samurais clash with their swords?  They just didn't happen all that much because they were afraid their blades would break!)

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RE:Proof Knights own Samurais
« Reply #32 on: August 09, 2007, 03:49:19 AM »
Mythbusters proved that it is actually very hard to break the Katana in hand to hand sword combat.  They are just too flexible.  

It was quite an interesting episode because they even built a Robot Arm that could swing stronger and with more force and humanly possible, and no breakage.  

And yes, the Katana is usually a two handed sword, but Miyamoto Musashi used both his short sword and Katana in combat.

I do understand the Knights code of Chivilary, but I do not trust it as much as the Bushido code of honor.  

As well, Usagi Yojimbo is one of the best graphical novel series you can read so I will stick with my Samurai bunny.  Laugh it up, but I he would defeat any pirate, ninja, or turtle.


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RE: Proof Knights own Samurais
« Reply #33 on: August 09, 2007, 03:55:29 AM »
"Mythbusters proved that it is actually very hard to break the Katana in hand to hand sword combat. They are just too flexible."

I'd attribute that to better, more efficient techniques developed in recent years...
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RE:Proof Knights own Samurais
« Reply #34 on: August 09, 2007, 04:15:19 AM »
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Mythbusters proved that it is actually very hard to break the Katana in hand to hand sword combat.  They are just too flexible.

It was quite an interesting episode because they even built a Robot Arm that could swing stronger and with more force and humanly possible, and no breakage.  


It's hard to break a sword in general. And I don't really trust that test Mythbusters did. It looked like they were using replica swords. Remember, Japan had very poor iron.

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And yes, the Katana is usually a two handed sword, but Miyamoto Musashi used both his short sword and Katana in combat.


I believe that one of the most skilled swordsmen in Japanese history is an exception, not the rule.


I do understand the Knights code of Chivilary, but I do not trust it as much as the Bushido code of honor.  


And why not?

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As well, Usagi Yojimbo is one of the best graphical novel series you can read so I will stick with my Samurai bunny.  Laugh it up, but I he would defeat any pirate, ninja, or turtle.


What about pirate ninja turtle?
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RE:Proof Knights own Samurais
« Reply #35 on: August 09, 2007, 11:20:45 AM »
Ok, a Pirate Ninja Turtle is pretty good.

but remember, my original thought was Space Usagi.

So you need to go on more:

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RE: Proof Knights own Samurais
« Reply #36 on: August 10, 2007, 04:11:33 AM »
The true lesson of the video is this:

Always remember your family right before you die, it will give you an instant boost of win.
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RE:Proof Knights own Samurais
« Reply #37 on: August 10, 2007, 04:34:05 AM »
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The true lesson of the video is this:

Always remember your family right before you die, it will give you an instant boost of win.


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RE: Proof Knights own Samurais
« Reply #38 on: August 13, 2007, 08:51:13 PM »
No way.  A Musketeer would wipe the floor with a Knight, a Pirate, a Ninja, and a Samurai.  The real challenge would be which combination of two of these four would pose the greatest threat to him.  Any combo with a Samurai is the greatest threat since his katana might actually chop through a rapier, a foil, or an epee.  So he would always have to waste his bullet in him.  No matter what armor anybody is wearing, they would all fall prey to a single, pointed thrust to the heart.  Not even the heaviest armor could stop fencing thrusts, all of which stress maximum range and speed.

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RE: Proof Knights own Samurais
« Reply #39 on: August 13, 2007, 10:54:04 PM »
A musketeer won't win against a pirate, the pirate just grabs his AK74 and kills the musketeer from much longer range than the musket can accurately deal damage at. The Ninja wouldn't charge head on, his job is to approach a target unseen and musketeers aren't exactly well versed in camouflage.

But overall pitting anyone 1v1 against a sniper (which I presume you want to make the musketeer act as) is unfair, snipers are specialized for single-target elimination, in a real situation the sniper would get killed by the target's friends if he messes up and matching the enemy's numbers 1:1 with snipers is not feasible.

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RE: Proof Knights own Samurais
« Reply #40 on: August 14, 2007, 03:10:29 AM »
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RE: Proof Knights own Samurais
« Reply #41 on: August 14, 2007, 04:09:32 AM »
He probably made better kebabs but pizza?

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RE: Proof Knights own Samurais
« Reply #42 on: August 14, 2007, 04:36:33 AM »
Even things that aren't pizza are better pizza than Red Baron pizza.