Author Topic: Iwata Speaks at Financial Briefing Q&A (Read 9788 times)

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #25 on:** May 03, 2007, 01:58:35 PM »

Ian has done nothing but whine and complain about Wii, refusing to accept it has been a success. So once again I refuse to take anything he says seriously in regards to the blue-ocean strategy, or Wii.

Galford · « **Reply #26 on:** May 03, 2007, 05:55:14 PM »

I'm glad to here that we are getting MP3 before end of 2007.
Downside, if Nintendo launches it in November as a Christmas title is will go against the full fury of Halo 3 and MGS 4,
thus suffering the same horrible fate that MP2 did. I think Nintendo would do better by giving us MP3 in summer and
let Mario and Smash Bros do the heavy lifting during Christmas.

Why all the Ian bashing? All did is say that non-gaming isn't as big in America as it is in Japan.
That's not a major revelation.

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #27 on:** May 03, 2007, 06:21:26 PM »

There's no way Ninty will launch Prime 3 over Mario Galaxy or Smash Brothers as the flagship November holiday-rush title...

Dasmos · « **Reply #28 on:** May 03, 2007, 07:54:35 PM »

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Originally posted by: GoldenPhoenix
Ian has done nothing but whine and complain about Wii, refusing to accept it has been a success. So once again I refuse to take anything he says seriously in regards to the blue-ocean strategy, or Wii.

What about the fact that he's right? That doesn't matter?

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #29 on:** May 03, 2007, 08:35:02 PM »

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Originally posted by: GoldenPhoenix
Ian has done nothing but whine and complain about Wii, refusing to accept it has been a success. So once again I refuse to take anything he says seriously in regards to the blue-ocean strategy, or Wii.
What about the fact that he's right? That doesn't matter?

Right about what? Casual gaming is perhaps the fastest growing industry in America at the moment, whether it be via cell phones, PC, handheld gaming systems, gaming sites, or consoles. Casual gaming has helped bridge the gap between male and female gamers that once was overwhelmingly wide, bringing things closer to 50%. Wii along with NDS has expanded the market beyond the limits of Xbox 360 or Playstation. The Wii and NDS's success alone is an indication that blue-ocean is working, some of the biggest sellers for both systems have been Non-Games that fit in the blue-ocean strategy (along with some traditional games). Not to mention the PRIMARY focus of Blue-Ocean was to expand the market, heck that is what the term means, to find new markets that were once relatively untouched It is blatantly clear it is working here in America, just look at the trends and look at the diverse userbase of both DS and Wii, not to mention diverse sale numbers for a variety of genres. Yes Nintendo through around stuff like wayward gamers, but their focus was always blue-ocean which is to attract a NEW market.

There were already signs that the current gaming market was facing a potential problem due to a dip in sales last year, so I think there are alot more gamers out there in America than Ian or anyone else gives credit for. Heck I was one! Yeah the GC was a fun system and there were some good games, but things were feeling rehashed, both the NDS and Wii made me excited for games again, and I doubt I'm the only one.

Ian does make some sound points, but his whining in regards to Wii isn't all true and considering he has made no real attempt to try it out, I consider his opinion even less sound. He has been dead set against Blue-Ocean since day 1, and has put on his blinders that things are actually looking up for Nintendo.

Mario · « **Reply #30 on:** May 03, 2007, 09:06:51 PM »

How come nobody is talking about Europe? Some 'non-games' like Nintendogs have sold more copies in Europe than anywhere else. You can't quote a comment comparing USA to Europe and reply comparing USA to Japan.

Kairon · « **Reply #31 on:** May 03, 2007, 09:20:11 PM »

I have high hopes for the Wii in europe that are constantly being dashed against the rocks of NoE's barren release and translation schedule. They need to get their rears in gear if they're going to press on against the onslaught that is Some-Soccer-Game and Karaoke revolution (?) on the XBox 360 and Buzz, Singstar, and Playstation Eye on the PS3.

~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

Mario · « **Reply #32 on:** May 03, 2007, 09:29:38 PM »

Mario Soccer will be enough.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #33 on:** May 03, 2007, 09:48:31 PM »

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I have high hopes for the Wii in europe that are constantly being dashed against the rocks of NoE's barren release and translation schedule. They need to get their rears in gear if they're going to press on against the onslaught that is Some-Soccer-Game and Karaoke revolution (?) on the XBox 360 and Buzz, Singstar, and Playstation Eye on the PS3.

~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

I think NoE is run by monkeys, that have handled the Wii like crap around there, it is amazing that the Wii actually has made an impact.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #34 on:** May 04, 2007, 02:45:10 AM »

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Good choice, Icecold.

Except without AV, SEGA is doomed! So make it happen, Nintendo.

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Ceric · « **Reply #35 on:** May 04, 2007, 06:16:53 AM »

I played Gunstar heros and Super Gunstar heroes and realized they where the same game. What else has Treasure done?

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #36 on:** May 04, 2007, 06:38:38 AM »

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I played Gunstar heros and Super Gunstar heroes and realized they where the same game. What else has Treasure done?

Um, Mischief Makers, Ikaruga, and Radiant Silvergun. I think they did Sin and Punishment too.

vudu · « **Reply #37 on:** May 04, 2007, 06:58:45 AM »

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There's no way Ninty will launch Prime 3 over Mario Galaxy or Smash Brothers as the flagship November holiday-rush title...

What if it's the only one out of the three that's ready in November? I fully expect Galaxy to ship this summer and it wouldn't surprise me at all to see Brawl pushed back to 2008.

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #38 on:** May 04, 2007, 07:00:55 AM »

You think Galaxy is farther along development than Prime 3? Nah, Prime will be out August or September, Mario Galaxy will be October or November, Smash Brothers will be November, December, or delayed...

Khushrenada · « **Reply #39 on:** May 04, 2007, 07:19:23 AM »

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I played Gunstar heros and Super Gunstar heroes and realized they where the same game. What else has Treasure done?

Um, Mischief Makers, Ikaruga, and Radiant Silvergun. I think they did Sin and Punishment too.

Don't forget WarioWorld. Sweet precious WarioWorld.

To Golden Phoenix,

Ian has tried out the Wii. He even made a thread about it. Of course, Deguello didn't like that but such is the crazy relationship they share on this board. They're like the original odd couple where as you and Pap64 are the movie odd couple.

Also, I'm not sure that casual gaming is the biggest growing market. It's always been out there. People have been playing computer solitaire for a long time. That's a casual gamer. The only thing is that now people are trying to sell more products to these people and focus their efforts on them. It's a tough battle because the games they play have been free for the most part.

Mario is correct. He brought out that Iwata was comparing Europe to USA. When you look at Europe and Japan, the Americas are taking awhile to embrace the blue ocean. Is it having some effect? Yes but it is more from the Wii than DS. In Europe and Japan, the DS is huge. But how many times do you hear DS mentioned on shows or news? You hear way more about the Wii. I think that's part of the problem. The Wii is doing more to open the casual market than the DS and it should be the other way around. Iwata even pointed out that while sales are good in the Americas, compared to how the DS is selling around the rest of the world, it's actually not that great. Only know is the DS starting to gain some momentum. With the shortages over the past few months, the signs are showing that it might be about to take off like the rest of the world. Again, Iwata mentions all this himself.

IceCold · « **Reply #40 on:** May 04, 2007, 07:52:01 AM »

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Ian has tried out the Wii. He even made a thread about it

What? Where?

Khushrenada · « **Reply #41 on:** May 04, 2007, 08:00:46 AM »

Here's the thread:

So I finally got to try out the Wii

It isn't much but the point was, he has played the Wii and did seek to try it out. I don't know if he has tried it again since then as I don't recall him mentioning anything about playing it since then.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #42 on:** May 04, 2007, 09:04:55 AM »

I am looking at the sales data and the NDS has sold close to 12 million in America, and in Europe it is about 12.5 million. Doesn't seem to be a huge gap ESPECIALLY taking into consideration that the 12.5 million isn't based off one country. Japan is perhaps the bigger gap, but then again isn't it usually? I think Kairon is right in that U.S. market is more receptive of different casual games than Japan. Nintendogs (And Animal Crossing) sold like crazy here, but Brain Age, not so much. Both games are taking advantage of relatively untouched markets which is what Blue-Ocean is about.

Kairon · « **Reply #43 on:** May 04, 2007, 09:15:15 AM »

Brain Age sold well here too but America IS supposed to be the bigger market...

I think there's less potential for "applications" in America than Japan... or maybe that's exactly what Iwata's talking about. NoA has to push the applications aspect of it if they want to create/preove the market. After all, who knew that DS Cooking Navi would sell 600,000 + in Japan? If NoA launched a marketting blitz as well as Japan did for the software, AND found a way to put the DS into the hands of more adults, families, and seniors, (Japan probably has a higher senior/adult DS user base compared to the US) then they might be in a position to see similar results.

... But generally, yeah, we've got a different commuter culture here, so I think American DS' are in the hands of different people compared to elsewhere. I don't think we'll see the same type of blue ocean here as in Japan, so I think NoA could probably choose to focus their DS marketting more into that particular section of blue ocean so their marketting can be focused on one goal for maximum effect.

~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #44 on:** May 04, 2007, 09:25:24 AM »

Didn't Cookie Mama sell quite well in America (Not sure about the Wii version).

Kairon · « **Reply #45 on:** May 04, 2007, 09:46:44 AM »

Decently so actually. But Cooking Mama is more game, less app, so that's expected. You just KNOW an Iron Chef game would be the bomb here. I can even envision the announcer being as repetitive and scripted as John Madden.

~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #46 on:** May 04, 2007, 09:56:39 AM »

I think as NDS becomes more popular in the US games like Brain Age will do better. New Markets are being founded, but the process is slower than other countries, and gaming is still being viewed as more of a "hardcore" thing even though that is rapidly changing. With the popularity of Suduku and other "brain" games, I think it is only a matter of time before people realize that you can do them on the NDS or even Wii.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #47 on:** May 06, 2007, 12:57:31 AM »

You people forgot freaking Bleach DS. There was apparently a Yuyu Hakusho game with similar gameplay made by Treasure before that but I have no idea what system it's on.

Luigi Dude · « **Reply #48 on:** May 06, 2007, 08:33:44 AM »

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You people forgot freaking Bleach DS. There was apparently a Yuyu Hakusho game with similar gameplay made by Treasure before that but I have no idea what system it's on.

It was released on the Sega Mega Drive (Genensis) back in 1994. Here's a review of it

Too bad the game is Japan only with quite a bit of Japanese text because I can see this game actually coming to the Japanese Virtual Console some day, since it was made by Treasure and Published by Sega. Of course we can always hope Sega would release it to the rest of the world anyway since Hudson recently released Lode Runner which was used to be Japan only and Nintendo is planning on releasing the Japanese version of Super Mario Bros 2 for the NES which used to be Japan only as well.

Of course Lode Runner and SMB2 Japan were already in complete english while Yu Yu Hakusho is full of Japanese so that hurts it's chances of a world release quite a bit.

Ceric · « **Reply #49 on:** May 07, 2007, 03:42:36 AM »

Thats one of the problems. A cooking application is something that would definitely sell on the DS now in the States. If I could have the complete Betty Crocker Cookbook on my DS with littl helpful tutorials on some common cooking methods and an extensive measurement and portion converter I be sold. Quick finding of recipes and if I could tell it that I want to make it just for 2 people let say and it adjusts the recipe accordingly that be great. Give it the ability to plan a meal or a series of meals and generate a shopping list we be good to go.

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