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Offline biohazardous

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Disc care
« on: January 21, 2006, 05:58:14 PM »
I have recently bought a GCN and played my game.

I was wondering how I am supposed to unload the CD without affecting/damaging the GCN or its lens as well as the CD.

Do I simply depress the open button of the GCN while the game is still at the main title screen (even when there is a pmopt to incidicate that the CD has been taken out and was supposed to be replaced)?

and then proceed to switch off the GCN?

Or should I try something else?

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RE: Disc care
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2006, 06:35:03 PM »
It's usually a good idea to read the instruction manual...

Otherwise it's usually a good idea not to open disc players when they're in use. Do you not have a CD player or comptuer?

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RE: Disc care
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2006, 04:07:46 PM »
put the cube off by pressing the "on/off" button, open the cd tray thingy by pressing the "open" button. to unload the disc, there is a button that in the middle of the cube, it is where the hole of the cd is, just press it, and ur disc will pop up

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RE: Disc care
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2006, 09:28:31 AM »
nope, you supposed to open the top first so that the disc stops, then power off the system.  in all serioiusness thats what it says in the manual.  its the only reason i have remembered it since launch cause it seemed so backwards.
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RE: Disc care
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2006, 09:31:04 AM »
Someone explain to me what started this nonsense?  Why do so many people think you should take the disc out before turning a system off?  I don't get it and this isn't the first time its been brought up.
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RE:Disc care
« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2006, 11:12:01 AM »
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Originally posted by: Pale
Someone explain to me what started this nonsense?  Why do so many people think you should take the disc out before turning a system off?  I don't get it and this isn't the first time its been brought up.
Believe it or not, that's the way Nintendo tells you to do it.

Nintendo Instruction Manuals

Select the Nintendo GameCube System manual and check out page fourteen.
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Removing a Game Disc

1.  When the power is ON, push the Open Button to open the Disc Cover.
2.  Push the Disc Release Button and remove the Game Disc from the console.
3.  Close the Disc Cover and push the Power Button to turn the power OFF.
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RE: Disc care
« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2006, 12:18:04 PM »
Man, what the hell.

That is the stupidest thing I have EVER heard.

What happens if you want to play the same game next time??  Huh, what then Nintendo?  When I push the power button do you send 3 million volts through the system causing my games to melt?
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RE: Disc care
« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2006, 09:56:27 PM »
I think the logic behind that was that while the device is powered on it has a brake mechanism to stop the disc so people don't use their finger for that and there's no way the disc will come loose during transport if it's not inserted.

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RE: Disc care
« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2006, 10:11:00 PM »
What happens if you want to play the same game next time?? Huh, what then Nintendo?

Then save to a memory card and be done with it.
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RE: Disc care
« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2006, 03:50:23 AM »
Man I don't understand the response...

Haha, anyone who tries to stick up for the wording on this one really is in a Nintendo can do no wrong attitude.  KDR may be right, and it could be some silly liability issue, but the whole thought of making your gamecube give an error message, then hitting the reset button to get the new game to fire up is silly.
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RE: Disc care
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2006, 04:43:24 AM »
Its also the only existance of Super Mario 64 on Gamecube =P

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RE: Disc care
« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2006, 07:09:50 AM »
What KDR said is right, there are breaks on the motor to stop the disc.  Test it for your self!  Turn on your system.  Now open the lid.  You'll see that the disc stops itself within a few seconds.  Altenativley, if you turn off the console and immeaditly open the lid, you'll see the disc just continue to spin untill it naturally looses its momentum.

Sombody who takes the second method may try and stop the disc manualy, by pressing on it.  Of course, by pressing on the disc too hard, it would bend down slightly and drag on the floor of the tray, and incidentally, scratch it!!!  This is the whole reasoning behind what might initally seem to be an odd method, avoiding messing up your games!

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RE: Disc care
« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2006, 07:55:42 AM »
I can't check it as I have a Q, but there is something wrong with the way society places blame if Nintendo has to worry about that kind of liability.  Yes the disc is spinning fast.  You should probably take great care when removing it.  If you break it, you weren't careful enough.  You should buy your replacement game.  It isn't Nintendo's problem.

Shutting a system down at the wrong time can cause corrupted game saves.  I don't see how that is a good idea.
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RE: Disc care
« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2006, 10:02:20 AM »
Yeah you should've seen that 2 years ago when they were the only ones sued for allegedly not labeling for seizure warnings, and now they're the only ones that have to put seizure warnings at the beginning of every game from this point forward, despite already placing seizure warnings in every instruction manual of every game and hardware box for the past 10+ years. Too bad they didn't countersue.
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RE:Disc care
« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2006, 10:24:25 AM »
Well, I am pretty sure that on of the manuals (console/game/memory card) recommends that you be sure to completely quit your game and return to the title screen before being the previously talked abotu shudown procedure.  This way, the system is not accessing the Memory Card in any way, and there is no risk of corruption.

Most games only access the memory card during specific points that are made obvious to the user with a pause in the game, even if only a short one, and some sort of prompt letting you know that the card is being accessed and not to touch anything.  With these games, corrupted data shouldent be an issue, uneless you are neglegant and turn off your system when it ovbously tells you not to.  There are some games that are periodically saving in the background without any sort of obvious stop in the gameplay.  No games for the GameCube come to mind immeaditly, but the Halo titles do.  They save every so often duing gameplay without any sort of warning promt or anything.  So, a game like that, if there even are any on GameCube, would risk data corrution if you arbitrally turn the system off.  Which, once again, this is why manuals recomend completely exiting the game to the title screen before shutting down.

ANd really, even if you do shut your system down "the wrong way" you should never really have a problem.  Rarely do I take the time to completely exit a game before hitting the power button, and in the 5 years since release, not once have I had a problem.  But then again, I only use Nintendo's offical cards...