Topic: Gameboy Evolution & 2 GameCube Next teams

[- NintendoFan -]

I don't get what the big deal is about re-writable disks are. CD's have them, DVD's have them, and Blu-Ray disks will have them. It would cost a lot more money to have a writeable Blu-Ray drive as opposed to one that just reads them in a console.

The cost of it just isn't realistic for Nintendo or Microsoft or Sony to do if they want to make the price competitive.

[Mannypon]

from what I remember herein when the 64dd was being developed.  Rewritable disks can completely change games.  They were talkin about a having worlds in lets say an rpg that is forever changing.  In earthbound alone they were plannin go have a  world that you can actually mold dependin on your actions.  With rewritable space they can save any changes that youve made to the world ingame with your actions into that rewritable space.  I'm not really goin to get into this further since I dont know the exact specifics of blue ray and rewritable disks and their advantages.  I'm only speakin on what I remember hearin yrs ago durin the 64 dd era.  

[Rich]

NintendoFan, I don't think that they will have a specialize drive to rewrite, I was under the impression that the Blu-ray drive could do it without a special drive.

[Uncle Rich AiAi]

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N-Sider has also written an article on the subject.... Exclusive: Potential Next-Gen Specs

Zuh?  That article to me is pure BS.

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Games will come on mini-discs, as opposed to cartridges.

I have a hard time believing Ninty will use mini-disc in the next gen. GameBoy.

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The graphics will be slightly better than those found on the Sega Dreamcast.

I seriously doubt it.  I cannot see a handheld being released in 2006 with graphics that powerful to be cost effective and under $200 at launch.


As for GCNext, I don't see Ninty using HD DVD or BluRay disc.  Maybe, but I see them using their own propriety mini-disc or develop a new once for GCNext with larger storage space (just as the article stated).  Not 15GB though.  Who needs that much space?  Besides Monolith Soft or Square!  

[Rich]

Well, AiAi, why can't Nintendo use a propriety mini-disk that utilizes blu-ray technology?

[Ian Sane]

"Not 15GB though. Who needs that much space? Besides Monolith Soft or Square!"

Ah but you're thinking like Nintendo with that statement.  True, you don't think that much space is necessary and Nintendo probably wouldn't either but that sort of thinking is exactly why Cube sports games need an entire memory card and why FMV on multiplatform Cube games is grainy.  In order for the N5 to truly succeed it has to be designed to accomodate more than just Nintendo.  In theory encouraging third parties to be efficient and use less space is a good idea but it just doesn't work when the market leader is doing the exact opposite.  Having less space to work with than Sony is a disadvantage.  If they offer 15GB then Nintendo has to match it.

[Uncle Rich AiAi]

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Well, AiAi, why can't Nintendo use a propriety mini-disk that utilizes blu-ray technology?

Read my post again.  I said "Maybe" ^_^


Ian Sane: you make a good point.  And yes, I was thinking like Nintendo. (oh noes, they've brainwashed me).  But we don't know how big the storage space will be on the disc next gen.  Although I'm betting Sony will use at least 15GB or around that.  Or 25GB.

[- NintendoFan -]

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Originally posted by: Rich:
NintendoFan, I don't think that they will have a specialize drive to rewrite, I was under the impression that the Blu-ray drive could do it without a special drive.

Ahh, if so I wasn't aware of such a thing. But, it will most likely cost more money nevertheless.

[Syl]

xactly, people whine and moan about HD size. ONLY argument I see is what the general dumb consumer sees:" Ooo lookie, a bigger HD than that one, I can store more stuff on there so ill get this console instead". Only problem is, like KDR said, theres nothing to freaking fill up 50-80GB with. Wont be games cause then theyre would be piracy out the wazoo. Game saves arent going to cut it, I dont care how big the damn game is. The biggest games these days are no bigger than approx. 3.2GB at MAX, updates/patches/extras/saves wont even take up anymore than 2-3 GB at best. And that would be for a huge ass(FF23 lol) game. If anything, 15GB would be for the choice of saving ur games there, extras, downloadble demos etc, stuff like that.=pleanty of space

note:  Unreal tournament 2004 is 5.8 gigs straight out of the box, no patches, no extra maps.
half life 2 and doom 3 are most likely going to be similar to that.
why?  textures and sound.  
likewise, those have nothing to do with HD space. but, just correcting your error.

Anyway, I was under the impression that the blu-ray was sorta OWNED BY SONY, so theres no chance that nintendo could use it, they would *HAVE* to use the HD-DVD, same with microsoft.    (i could be wrong about that)

Likewise, as i stated in the other thread.
the GCnext specs all seem like very plausible speculation, but thats all they seem to be... speculation.

Nintendo seems to have far more unique takes on hardware than just going with the norm.  Note how every part of the cube was basicly specially made for the cube, I'm sure theyre going to take that rigid, unique, hardware status for the next system.

the GBE specs sound like BS.  

[BlackNMild2k1]

Well according to Blu-Ray.com Matsushita (among Sony and 7 other companies) can license out the technology. So if Nintendo is still working with Matsushita(Panasonic) then technically they can use their license and have them make the drives once again, of course with some sort of customization made from the normal drives.

Blu-Ray licensing press release Feb-2003

[BlackNMild2k1]

On the topic of the GBE i personally think that the next version of the game boy will be a portable GC.  Iwata was quoted saying something along the lines of 'When the technology is small and cheap enough it would be do-able'.
So if they are exploring the whole GCPortable concept, maybe the GBE specs really aren't BS afterall.[/wishful thinking]

[PugGTI]

IGN seem to have quoted those rumoured specs in thier faq for revolution

[manunited4eva22]

The gameboy I call pure bull.