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Offline yellowfellow

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RE:Thinking outside the Cube?
« Reply #25 on: January 14, 2004, 12:03:20 PM »
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Exactly- the XBox is failing worse than the Gamecube ever was, and MS is losing money while Nintendo is making a lot of it. People only attack Nintendo because it catches your attention. Except it's not arguable the XBox is in 3rd place- I believe the Gamecube is some 2-3 million units ahead worldwide.


Though doom predictions of such a respectable company as nintendo do generate attention, again, i feel that Xbox's image of success is what keeps the "Xbox is doomed/last/a failure" at bay despite all the reasons that Ian had posted.

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Image is nothing without the sales to back it up- the PS2 has as good an image as the XBox, except the key difference is that it sells a LOT better. It doesn't matter if people think it's the number 2 system- all that matters is it's not.


i think it'll matter next round though, when MS can use this image as brand name power for securing consumer confidence.
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RE:Thinking outside the Cube?
« Reply #26 on: January 14, 2004, 12:05:50 PM »
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Though doom predictions of such a respectable company as nintendo do generate attention, again, i feel that Xbox's image of success is what keeps the "Xbox is doomed/last/a failure" at bay despite all the reasons that Ian had posted.


That is a good point- it would be nice if people wouldn't be hounding on Nintendo all the time, regardless of how well they're doing. I just think in the end my hatred for Ed Fries goes beyond the advantage of having him work for Nintendo- he might try to sabotage something.
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RE:Thinking outside the Cube?
« Reply #27 on: January 14, 2004, 12:42:32 PM »
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the only games I like for it, excluding Halo and KOTOR, have sold horribly.


And I don't even like KOTOR.

But I don't care.  As long as I'm allowed to play Nintendo games, both new and old, the world will be safe.
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RE: Thinking outside the Cube?
« Reply #28 on: January 14, 2004, 01:32:04 PM »
"Remind me again how this has any relevance to anything. Last I checked Nintendo's problems were not caused "wimpy" executives."

I guess I made a poor choice of words.  People like Ed Fries (and almost everyone involved with the Xbox) are agressive and are able to get people interested in stuff that is actually not all that great.  Most of the higher ups in Nintendo (both in Japan and the US) are not as agressive.  Nintendo currently has a more laid back approach to the console market and that's not really benefiting them much.  Someone who is agressive like Fries would make a good addition to the Nintendo team.  He's coming in from a different perspective and with some different approaches to things.

And I still think you're selling the Xbox short.  Microsoft has created a strong console fanbase out of nothing.  Even if it's in last place (which I still think is arguable since I get conflicting reports from everywhere on which console has sold better) it's growing.  The Xbox is like the Sega Master System.  It's slowly gaining a strong following and brand name that will ensure more success for it's follow-up.  The next MS console could be more like the Genesis and have a larger market share.  Next time around MS will have a strong brand name and (likely) no significant Sony headstart to fight against.  It's going to do better.
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RE:Thinking outside the Cube?
« Reply #29 on: January 14, 2004, 01:35:12 PM »
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I guess I made a poor choice of words. People like Ed Fries (and almost everyone involved with the Xbox) are agressive and are able to get people interested in stuff that is actually not all that great.


THAT I agree with- ever since Yamauchi left Nintendo has seemed a bit wishy washy. It would be nice to have some really agressive people up there, but not Ed Fries.

And maybe I am selling the XBox a little short, but its successes have been minute if that and its failures have been grand, and I think a lot of people don't realize that.
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RE:Thinking outside the Cube?
« Reply #30 on: January 14, 2004, 03:17:09 PM »
I say being laid back always comes out best in the long run.  I mean, even if your business fails and everything you know has gone to nothing, still no worries, right?  Look at me.  I'm happy.  Easy going is the way to go.
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RE: Thinking outside the Cube?
« Reply #31 on: January 15, 2004, 07:46:00 PM »
Xbox sure launched really strong...and that was one of Fries success..i wouldnt discount him. He seemed like nice guy as well. I never had any anomosity towards him
yet hated xbox lol.
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