I am also suprised that so many feel that Mario Sunshine seserve the title. Granted, it was a good Mario game, and I am glad to see nintendo try something new with Mario, but I cant help but feel this one was rushed. Poor framerate at times, theme did seem to get repetative, and the visuals (other than the water) were C+ average. Metroid being picked so much doesnt suprise me, although its not a favorite of mine, I still feel its a very polished game. What about Factor5 guys. A little game called Rogue Leader; also a very impressive game. Very popular to, kinda suprised that it wasnt picked. Most impressive 3rd part title, who isnt made by Factor5, would have to go to Time Splitters 2. I actually picked this game up for $20 at Best Buy a couple of months ago. Heard good things, so I picked it up. Most solid FPS on Cube yet. They were smart to keep graphics to a level in which they could also keep a smooth framerate (I couldnt believe how smooth this game runs). I think this one could be cool to do a tournament with some freinds, gonna have to try that out. Splinter Cell also comes to mind, but I feel this one was released a month before it should have. Its not as smooth as it could have been, and just feels a bit rushed at times. I would still give it a B+ rating though. NST did a fantastic job with Wave race B.S. and would consider it one of Cubes best 2nd party titles by far.