Topic: What Nintendo should do when launching GC2

[Zelda]

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It s actually documented Square actually went first to the public and bashed Nintendo etc publically

What? Are you saying Square bashed nintendo? When did they do this?

[nonjagged]

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Originally posted by: Zelda

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It s actually documented Square actually went first to the public and bashed Nintendo etc publically

What? Are you saying Square bashed nintendo? When did they do this?

yes I am saying this. Square did it when Nintendo informed Square that Nintendo will drop the proposed CD-ROM format it was working on with $ony.

Square was furious because they invested heaps in CD-ROM format (especially FMV pre-rendering which costed alot of time and money for them) so Square aligned in bed with $ony and during this process it was risky for Square to do this alone, so they attracted Enix, Namco, Konami etc by publically bashing Nintendo and claiming Carts are no good etc

Naturally they also followed because CD-ROM Royalty fees where lower than Carts but remember there where many CD-ROM paltforms by Sega which Square never touched.
Because Square convinced them all to follow when Square aligned with $ony but also because $ony had big checkbooks to offer as incentives and exclusives.

Just last year Square publically mumbled/announced that Square is sorry (to Nintendo) that Square's pride (aka ego) got the better of them when Square publically bashed Nintendo back in the late SNES days.

Thats way Ive interpreted the documentations and announcements.

Links are not provided and the time line is SNES till last year.


PS Nintendo was not arrogant for not going with CD-ROM format as Nintendo was well aware of seeing many platforms go bust with piracy etc, but Nintendo's needs to protect its software it actually creates was priority over easily manufactured and cheaper CD-ROM format.
Nintendo had NOT been arrogant it simply waited until someone better than $ony's proposals (enter Panasonic and GODiscs format) to protect Nintendo's NEEDS not arrogance, like many trolls claim.

Yes we all know that you can play MAME and Nintendo ROMs on Xbox and we all know that NINTENDO is the only company that makes an effort to create a platform that doesnt promote pimping itself to illegal ROMS, MAME and whatever else.

[Zelda]

..That isn't publicly bashing Nintendo. That's just choosing to support PSX over N64.

[nonjagged]

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Originally posted by: Zelda
..That isn't publicly bashing Nintendo.

Giving you a simplistic definition of years of turmoil, shouldnt really result to an answer like that.
Square did not bash a PSX over Nintendo's head. Nor Square, didnt whisper into someone's ear to publically bash Nintendo, they actually went out of their way and used Japanese media sources to defame against Nintendo. Thats IS publically bashing. Just as M$ has been trying to do against Nintendo over the months during their Website interviews, but Square did it in a more blunt way to attract other established 3rd parties to hold its hand in the grudge switch.

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Originally posted by: Zelda
..That's just choosing to support PSX over N64.

Its not just chosing one platform over the other. Its attacking one platform over the other, after a long relationship that made them wealthy.
If Square left without making a fuss in Japanese media, then you would have some form of statement.

[theRPGFreak]

I agree fully with nonjagged about Square. Squaresoft themselves said that to put Final Fantasy 7(not the Playstation classic, but a sequel to Final Fantasy 6) would take up to 13 of Nintendo's cartragess to fit the game on. So, they went to Sony with open arms as they showed other companies how the Playstation was the best system to invest in. In my opinon, if Nintendo made the Nintendo 64 a CD-ROM system, then they would possibly still be the Number one system today. They cannot make the same mistakes that they have made when they take on the PSP.

[NWR_Lindy]

Nintendo needs to decide what they want to do with themselves.  If they're going to stay in the console business, they'll need to cater more to mainstream tastes.  Otherwise they'll never come close to regaining the top spot in the industry, and if they don't care about that, why ARE they in the console business?  I guess they could be content with being a distant third, but I think Nintendo has more pride than that considering their history.

If all they want to do is make top-quality games that will appeal to the Nintendo hardcore, they should become a third-party.

Nintendo tends to blather on about quality vs. quantity but that's just a smokescreen to distract people from the fact that nobody's making good games for their console but them.

silks

[Cooolcorey]

Q: Why do they want to be in the console business?

A: To make money.

If anyone should go third party, it's Microsoft. Sure, they might be ahead of Nintendo (in the U.S.) in sales, but nowhere near in profit. Don't even get me started, this has already been discussed in not one, but TWO other threads, and probably more before I came here. Nintendo has stated that they WILL NOT go third party, so quit suggesting that because they won't listen, therefore that is not an option for "What Nintendo should do when launching GC2", therefore you are off-topic. Let's get back on topic and say something that Nintendo might actually do when they launch the GC2.

[ThePerm]

another arm chair executive thread...i remember a time when these were automatically being locked