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Offline Chozo Ghost

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Re: Nintendo & Amazon
« Reply #25 on: September 21, 2012, 02:58:44 AM »
Fun quazi-fact, the word Amazon means "no breasts", A = not having, Mazos = boobs, or at least thats the folk etymology

That makes sense because I have read that the Amazons would cut off one or both of their breasts so that it wouldn't get in the way when they used bows and arrows.

I looked it up. The Greek word for breasts is Mastos. So I can see how the word Amastos could have evolved into Amazon over the centuries.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/masto-


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« Reply #26 on: September 21, 2012, 03:34:58 AM »
I'm going to look at it from a consumer's perspective.

Amazon USA simply does not want your money. The contracted relationship for supply of goods rests with Amazon and not Nintendo. If they do not want to supply it then, they lose out. I go elsewhere. Plenty other places on the internets.

The point for me is moot as Amazon UK is selling it, however. Premium is £300.

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« Reply #27 on: September 21, 2012, 07:27:59 AM »
I think every state is going to make online sales tax mandatory at some point in the near future. But until then those of us who can take advantage of it might as well do so while we can. 7% sales tax on a $350 is a considerable amount. Not quite enough for a new game, but over half way there. If you can save that why wouldn't you?

You know, I thought we had this entire conversation before - but I was on my cell and couldn't look it up at the time...

http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=36196.msg714005#msg714005

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« Reply #28 on: September 21, 2012, 07:36:15 AM »
I think every state is going to make online sales tax mandatory at some point in the near future. But until then those of us who can take advantage of it might as well do so while we can. 7% sales tax on a $350 is a considerable amount. Not quite enough for a new game, but over half way there. If you can save that why wouldn't you?

You know, I thought we had this entire conversation before - but I was on my cell and couldn't look it up at the time...

http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=36196.msg714005#msg714005

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« Reply #29 on: September 21, 2012, 08:22:42 AM »
A.) Ignorance of the law is no excuse.
B.) I gave you the web link directly to the Michigan state government's website where they discuss it nearly a year ago, so you have no excuse not to know.
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« Reply #30 on: September 21, 2012, 08:42:34 AM »
I read Chozo's post as a joke response like the way little kids act when being scolded by their mom. Even if that wasn't his intent, it still gave me a slight chuckle.

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« Reply #31 on: September 21, 2012, 11:57:18 AM »
I'm going to look at it from a consumer's perspective.

Amazon USA simply does not want your money. The contracted relationship for supply of goods rests with Amazon and not Nintendo. If they do not want to supply it then, they lose out. I go elsewhere. Plenty other places on the internets.

I think this is how I feel about it. Amazon, you taught me that I have options as to where I can buy things that I want/need. I am going to exercise those options this fall.
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« Reply #32 on: September 21, 2012, 01:57:50 PM »
A.) Ignorance of the law is no excuse.
B.) I gave you the web link directly to the Michigan state government's website where they discuss it nearly a year ago, so you have no excuse not to know.

If it really is the law you need to blame Amazon for not enforcing it. As a consumer its not my responsibility to figure that out. If the vender isn't charging it, then I'm not paying it. Simple as that.
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« Reply #33 on: September 21, 2012, 02:16:15 PM »
A.) Ignorance of the law is no excuse.
B.) I gave you the web link directly to the Michigan state government's website where they discuss it nearly a year ago, so you have no excuse not to know.

If it really is the law you need to blame Amazon for not enforcing it. As a consumer its not my responsibility to figure that out. If the vender isn't charging it, then I'm not paying it. Simple as that.

It's not Amazon's place to do it.  It's your place to remit your taxes for purchases made out of state.  You have the option to not make purchases out of state *or* move to a state that doesn't have this law.
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« Reply #34 on: September 21, 2012, 03:06:35 PM »
I'm sure there is absolutely no person in the entire United States, bureaucrats and politicians included, who makes a specific effort to pay taxes for out of state purchases or any personal transaction like buying something on Craig's list or eBay.  Does anyone here calling Chozo out actually do that themselves?

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« Reply #35 on: September 21, 2012, 03:54:34 PM »
So if I buy something at a garage sale or flea market I got to pay taxes on that?
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« Reply #36 on: September 21, 2012, 04:10:11 PM »
I'm sure there is absolutely no person in the entire United States, bureaucrats and politicians included, who makes a specific effort to pay taxes for out of state purchases or any personal transaction like buying something on Craig's list or eBay.  Does anyone here calling Chozo out actually do that themselves?
Two years ago, the state of Illinois introduced a line on the income tax form and and a handy chart for estimating your tax liability for internet purchases.  I've taken the standard cut each year which is probably more than I actually owe.

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« Reply #37 on: September 21, 2012, 04:13:47 PM »
So if I buy something at a garage sale or flea market I got to pay taxes on that?
Don't think so. Tax on first sale only. Used stuff is exempted
 
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« Reply #38 on: September 21, 2012, 04:22:17 PM »
So if I buy something at a garage sale or flea market I got to pay taxes on that?
Don't think so. Tax on first sale only. Used stuff is exempted
 
in Canada, anyway

Yup.  I'm no tax advisor and your laws my vary, but typically, sales tax is collected on new goods and services.

Think of it this way - if I buy a game at Walmart - I've paid tax on it.  If I sell the game to you and you had to pay tax on it too, it'd get double taxed.  That's why you can get a special tax exempt status - for example, if my wife comes in to Walmart to buy pickles for their restaruant, they get them tax free, then collect the tax when they resell to the customers.  But if she comes in for a bottle of bleach for cleaning (and not for resale), she has to pay tax on it.
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« Reply #39 on: September 21, 2012, 04:46:33 PM »
So if I buy something at a garage sale or flea market I got to pay taxes on that?


Before, I thought you were trolling Uncle Bob. This question is dumb enough that now I'm no longer sure...
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« Reply #40 on: September 21, 2012, 04:55:27 PM »
Retailers still charge sales tax on used games. For example, you buy a used game from GameStop and they charge sales tax just like they would if you bought a new game.

Ian, I don't have a choice. New York started charging sales tax for online purchases a few years ago.
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« Reply #41 on: September 21, 2012, 05:04:06 PM »
So if I buy something at a garage sale or flea market I got to pay taxes on that?
Don't think so. Tax on first sale only. Used stuff is exempted
 
in Canada, anyway

In Canada I pay tax on used videogames all the time.  Unless every store I buy from is ripping me off.  I buy used records on a regular basis as well and my brother buys used old action figures and, again, we're charged sales tax.

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« Reply #42 on: September 21, 2012, 05:44:02 PM »
So if I buy something at a garage sale or flea market I got to pay taxes on that?
Don't think so. Tax on first sale only. Used stuff is exempted
 
in Canada, anyway

In Canada I pay tax on used videogames all the time.  Unless every store I buy from is ripping me off.  I buy used records on a regular basis as well and my brother buys used old action figures and, again, we're charged sales tax.
Hmm, I think you're right, Ian. I'll have to check my receipts.
Unless its just PST you're being charged and not GST (which is what I was thinking about)? Or th Harmonized Sales tax?
Maybe if your retail business is selling used products, you are caught by the tax laws? I am still pretty sure that for a private used sale, there is not GST (like if you sell your car). Maybe there's a monetary threshold of sales that if you exceed it, you're caught by the tax laws?
Needless to say, I do not fully understand it.
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« Reply #43 on: September 21, 2012, 05:49:17 PM »
I found this on the website of the Pennsylvania Department of Revenue:
I am having a yard sale. Should I apply for a Sales Tax license?
If your yard sale qualifies as an isolated sale, you do not need a license and do not need to collect sales tax. An isolated sale is an infrequent sale of tangible property by someone who is not in the business of selling that property and the sale does not reoccur.

However, if you take taxable items to a flea market or someplace where you are competing with other vendors, then you will need to collect Sales Tax and you therefore need to apply for a Sales Tax license.
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