Author Topic: What do you think of IGN's Top 100 games ever? (Read 19720 times)

The Omen · « **Reply #50 on:** May 09, 2003, 08:21:58 PM »

Well, although OOT was the best of the 3d Zeldas, WW started a whole new veiw on the Zelda series. The cell shading is incredible, and I thought just for haVIng the balls to change a successful formula warranted a placement...

Gamefreak · « **Reply #51 on:** May 09, 2003, 08:27:55 PM »

Well...to put WW in would mean to take something else out. So it comes down to...Does WW deserve to be in the Top 100, enough to kick out Pitfall which is in the #100 slot? The list wouldn't be complete without Pitfall. After all, it was the first platformer.

nolimit19 · « **Reply #52 on:** May 10, 2003, 12:41:47 AM »

i thought that it was extremely odd that ff7 didnt make it. these guys are hard core with there old school games. they should do just a console game list.

Artimus · « **Reply #53 on:** May 10, 2003, 02:47:13 AM »

I can't believe no Super Mario Bros. 3 (Mario World AND Yoshi's Island, but no Bros. 3!?!?!), FF2 over the FAR superior 3, and no FF7? It's a decent list, but it's extremely...unpolished.

PIAC · « **Reply #54 on:** May 10, 2003, 03:13:05 AM »

yeah mario 3 should have been included, but still its their opinions i guess. overall not a bad list, i would have had wind waker and monkey island 2 in there somewhere, ohwell

Uncle Rich AiAi · « **Reply #55 on:** May 10, 2003, 03:40:08 AM »

The Top 100 was not bad.

I was shocked Mario 3 wasn't on the list. I mean, it pushed the genre further.

Other games I felt should have made the list:

Jet Set Radio - how could they not include this game? It was completely original. And if we are talking about how a game influenced a genre, this is it. The cel-shading technique. How many developers are copying this technique? Yeah, I thought so.

Super Monkey Ball - this game is pure fun and addictive. And a great multiplayer mode. How could it be left out? If not that, then Marble Madness should have made it.

Syl · « **Reply #56 on:** May 10, 2003, 04:24:49 AM »

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Total Anhilation (Cave Dog): In my mind as good an RTS as any, definatly up there with Starcraft. I would of placed it Top 40.

Heroes III (3DO): A great Turn Based Strategy game. It really should of been found somewhere in the list

I second you about that, those are my 2 favorite computer games without a doubt.

Heroes III should have DEFINATELY been on there, i can't understand why they left it off. TA should have been on there, but i do believe that they only have 2 RTS on that list total...

Nintendo Gamecube · « **Reply #57 on:** May 10, 2003, 06:59:23 AM »

I'm just happy Tetris made top 5, and Nintnedo pretty much owned the top 10 and 20.

Hemmorrhoid · « **Reply #58 on:** May 10, 2003, 08:03:44 AM »

I think the list was great, its surprising how many current well rated games missed the list, but those guys at IGN know the history of gaming.

Ninja X · « **Reply #59 on:** May 10, 2003, 08:20:19 AM »

Many of you complain when two or three of your favorite games do not make it on the list...

As for Super Mario Bros. 3, I am not sure why they decided to not put it on the list. I guess many of them thought it was a big upgrade of the original Mario Bros. Super Mario World and Super Mario World 2 were both different from each other in their eyes and that can be justified.

Final Fantasy 7 is highly questionable. To include FFX, but not to include the game that popularized the series in America...very questionable.

And I am glad for once Final Fantasy II beat Final Fantasy III. Final Fantasy II was the game that introduced many RPG concepts such as classes. It was also the first to have memorable characters, and one of the first to have a plot. Final Fantasy III may have been great, but it did not really introduce new features or concepts to the RPG genre as a whole.

Remember, the criteria for this list is how revolutionary a game is, the game's influence in its respective genre and the game industry, and how fun it is back then and now.

On a side note, Tetris dominated in EGM, EW, and IGN's list. In EGM, it held the #2 rank, only behind Super Metroid. In EW, it held the #3 rank, behind Doom and Zelda. In IGN, it held the #4 rank. Glad to see all three publications put it in their top five.

Gamefreak · « **Reply #60 on:** May 10, 2003, 08:40:18 AM »

I think the biggest missing games are...

Legend of Zelda
Super Mario Bros. 3
Total Annihilation

And as for FF7, I think they could have put it in place of FFX, but nowhere near the top ten...

I personally would have OoT as 1, Super Metroid as 2, and Super Mario as 3, but I guess IGN is looking into the whole picture, and I'm just looking at which game I myself had more fun with. But Super Mario Bros. has brought joy to the hearts of more people than any other video game.

Nintendo Gamecube · « **Reply #61 on:** May 10, 2003, 09:35:52 AM »

Well, if you read the description of why they put the games in their spots, you might get a better idea of why or why not games made it. (I can probably bet you people just browsed through the list, rather than readng the descriptions)

As pointed it, it was how the game affected the industry of gaming, not just how good it was. And Mario was definitely the game that affected the gaming industry, and he still does. Just goes to show you, that good games last for years, but great games last for-ever.

The best way to figure out which games are the best, are to play them after they've been released for five years. If they still give you that queezy feeling inside, you know the game is great.

kennyb27 · « **Reply #62 on:** May 10, 2003, 09:48:55 AM »

After glancing over this list for the third time (don't ask). I gained a further insight into just how great Shigeru Miyamoto is. I mean, just imagine it. Three out of the arguably top five games of all time were developed and created by this genious. I don't really have anything new to say with this post especially since 99% of you agree with me, I just wanted to get that out.

Gamefreak · « **Reply #63 on:** May 10, 2003, 10:10:29 AM »

Yup, he created 3 of the top 5 games...and Nintendo created 4 of the top 5

And Nintendo brought Tetris to the masses too...which is the only other game in the top 5

TheResidentEvil · « **Reply #64 on:** May 10, 2003, 01:08:56 PM »

Where was WW, where was FF seven? Where was MM?

What the hell.

Gamefreak · « **Reply #65 on:** May 10, 2003, 01:20:34 PM »

Majora's Mask and Wind Waker, while quality sequels, I don't think deserve to be on the list. They aren't the games that you talk on and on about to your girlfriend, telling her how good it is, for years. They aren't the games that you could pick up in 10 years, like A Link to the Past, and still consider it one of the most brilliant things you've ever played. You've played them before, in the form of Ocarina of Time, and that's the game that will still impress you after all those years.

As for FF7...well I guess that should be on their somewhere, near the larger numbers...

The main games I see missing that I believe deserve to be on the list are Super Mario Bros. 3, Total Annihilation, and The Legend of Zelda.

bootang82 · « **Reply #66 on:** May 10, 2003, 03:17:25 PM »

No matter what games you put on the list, everyone is gonna have some opinion about it. With that said, how could the possibly leave out the Original Legend of Zelda. It did change how games were played after it came out after all. By not having it on the list (when it should be in the top ten), it kinda makes me think about what the point of having a "greatest games" list really is.

GoldShadow1 · « **Reply #67 on:** May 10, 2003, 03:42:52 PM »

The idea of a top 100 list is rather rediculus if you ask me... there's simply no way to gauge a game's greatness to that degree of accuracy, it totally depends on the tastes of the writers. A top ten list, perhaps, but not a top 100 list, that's simply stupid.

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #68 on:** May 10, 2003, 05:30:05 PM »

"and Nintendo created 4 of the top 5"

No, Nintendo made 5 of their top 10 games- Super Mario 64, A Link to the Past, Super Metroid, Ocarina of Time, and Super Mario Bros.

Gamefreak · « **Reply #69 on:** May 10, 2003, 11:33:59 PM »

Yes they made 5 of the top 10...but they made 4 of the top 5. Jeez...

Munky · « **Reply #70 on:** May 11, 2003, 06:53:28 AM »

I think they did a good job of their list. The thing I hated most was how poor of a rank Halo got, when it clearly deserves top 10.

VideoGamerX · « **Reply #71 on:** May 11, 2003, 07:48:19 AM »

What does it deserve top 10 for? I don't think it redefined anything.

As for the list, I think they did a good job with it, too. They made a few obvious mistakes, though. I can see their choices on Final Fantasy, but they still somehow missed ranking the original Legend of Zelda. If a Link to the Past is worthy of top 10, then my guess is that it ought to be up there. I understand why Ocarina of Time ranks higher than LttP (LttP redefined 2D adventure gaming, borrowing from what the original started).

If they are going to rank like that, then Super Mario Brothers 3 definitely deserves a spot somewhere on there. It redefined what the original started, introduced a flying power up, a 3/4th's overhead view of a map for Mario (same as in Super Mario World). It also introduced 7 other world bosses and broke the mold of battling Bowser 8 times. It introduced item storage to the series as well.

Still a great list.

Gamefreak · « **Reply #72 on:** May 11, 2003, 10:34:22 AM »

Yeah Super Mario Bros. 3 and Legend of Zelda should really be there. I guess they didn't want Nintendo to have all 10 of the top 10 and had to decide on which to leave out. Even with 6 of the top 10 in Nintendo's hands IGN is really getting bashed as a Nintendo fanboy in loads of non-Nintendo forums. Trust me, I've seen it, and it ain't pretty.

Uncle Rich AiAi · « **Reply #73 on:** May 12, 2003, 08:51:33 PM »

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Originally posted by: Gamefreak
Even with 6 of the top 10 in Nintendo's hands IGN is really getting bashed as a Nintendo fanboy in loads of non-Nintendo forums. Trust me, I've seen it, and it ain't pretty.

Well, I guess they are jealous they have not played the Nintendo greats!

BTW, I really should get my NES out and play Super Mario Bros. again.

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