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Offline Kairon

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Response to 'Rick’s Rant - Episode 5'
« on: January 26, 2009, 01:21:49 PM »
http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/blogArt.cfm?artid=17606

  Nice to see you back, but... I'm sorry to say you're out of touch with Nintendo's accomplishments this generation Rick. (please don't fire me!)    


This blog post is the exact same as the first response in the talkback thread for the editorial Rick’s Rant - Episode 5: Powers Strikes Back.    


This is a prime example of the wonderful discourse and chances to tear into fellow staffers and readers available on the NWR forums!.    


Of course, it should go without saying that my opinions, and those of Mr. Powers, are our own, and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Nintendo World Report and its staff.    


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 Speaking of which, I clearly whiffed on http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/editorialArt.cfm?artid=11407'>my diatribe regarding the selection of “Wii” as a product name.  Yes, it was non-sensical, and yes, Nintendo still faced all of the challenges I outlined.  And as the title of my editorial suggested, we did indeed get over it and led Nintendo to where it is now, quite literally writing themselves blank checks.  
   


If you were wrong about that, aren't you humbled to consider how wrong you might be on other things?    


 They make enough money on the console (and controllers, and peripherals, and licensing) that they really don’t care much about the attach rate.  
   


The Wii is said to boast a 6.0 attach rate, higher than the PS3 and slowly catching up to the XBox360's attach rate. Why does the Wii have a lower attach rate than the XBox 360? Because the Wii hardware outsells the XBox 360 hardware so consistently that new owners constantly drag down the Wii's attach rate. High attach rates are a bad sign actually because they mark a niche product. New users, which you want, cause a lower attach rate... too bad the PS3's lower attach rate comes with lower install base too.    


 And that’s where their fatal flaw lies: Nintendo doesn’t know how to transform this casual market into consumers that will buy more software.  
   


Nintendo has repeatedly stated that their intention is to do EXACTLY THIS. See: bridge titles.    


Besides, did you see the recent December NPD numbers? Mario Kart Wii sold to TONS OF NEW OWNERS. Even the three-year old Mario Kart DS climbed back into the top 10 sales for December because the CASUAL DS owners bought up the Kart Racer, a beloved Nintendo franchise from the SNES, in droves.    


 Nintendo is quite happily boasting about being  http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=21888'>responsible for 99% of the industry’s growth, but were they really?  
   


Yes. 49% of all software sold in 2008 was for Nintendo platforms.    


 Until Nintendo can prove that they can convince those people to buy more software, more GAME software, they’ll continue to get the same eye-rolling response they did when they made that statement.  
   


Stop eye-rolling. See sales for 2008.    


 A rising tide is supposed to raise ALL the boats, not just the ones owned by Nintendo.  
   


It's not Nintendo's fault if the other boats are hole-ridden. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.    


 Which leads me into my closing statement: I received some very disturbing news recently and turned to gaming as a way to ease the pain.  With all the gaming systems I had access to and all the games I could play, I went back and spent time with my old friends Donald and Goofy.  I loaded up Kingdom Hearts 2 (via my PS3), and enjoyed every moment with these childhood friends.  
   


I agree, Kingdom Hearts needs to be on the Wii. I am holding out for KH3 being on the Wii.    


 Nintendo is slipping into the realm of being merely an expensive toy manufacturer, a purveyor of plastic and digital bits, the equivalent of gaming junk food.  
   


Wow, so toys are digital junkfood? You really haven't followed Nintendo's, and even Miyamoto's, unifying theme throughout their history: entertainment for everyone, evoking emotions and smiles from regular people instead of evoking drool from cloistered gamers, and using innovation to surprise and expand, not dig themselves deeper into a hole.    


I understand these are your opinions, but... this amounts to anecdotal evidence, personal dislike, and a lack of perspective. Just like Steven Kent's recent, and unfortunate, apology-not-apology about his being so utterly wrong about the Wii... which he didn't sound apologetic for by the way, I can't help but feel that this editorial is an artifact of a misguided, outmoded, and unenlightened viewpoint. You know, like clinging to the idea that the earth is flat.

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Re: Response to 'Rick’s Rant - Episode 5'
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2009, 03:52:33 PM »
Haha, I just read Steven Kent's "apology" for the first time... really it sounds like he is just saying "I'm right, the market is wrong"... and thats kind of what I get from Ricks rant also.

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Re: Response to 'Rick’s Rant - Episode 5'
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2009, 05:00:40 PM »
Kairon > Rick Powers CONFIRMED.

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Re: Response to 'Rick’s Rant - Episode 5'
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2009, 07:54:20 PM »
Keep in mind that some people are simply incapable of  humility, regardless of what happens...

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Re: Response to 'Rick’s Rant - Episode 5'
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2009, 08:23:05 PM »
Quote from: Kairon
I agree, Kingdom Hearts needs to be on the Wii. I am holding out for KH3 being on the Wii.
While I know this will drive Wii sales through the roof if it happened, I really won't care about another Kingdom Hearts game. I hated the first one (despite having a slightly decent story and an awesome soundtrack), Chains of Memories was absolutely pointless (I loved the XIII members though!) and KH2 fixed only minor flaws from the first game while making some even worse.

And while some people may want this, I don't think a Nintendo/Kingdom Hearts cross-over will work... unless you get Yoshiaki Koizumi to write the story, Yoko Shimomura to compose the soundtrack, and the Final Fantasy XII director working on it. Oh, and the Final Fantasy Tactics art director doing the artwork. And a job system similar to either FFV or FFX-2 (without the fanservice).

I just can't see Mario wearing an outfit with alot of zippers. :/
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Re: Response to 'Rick’s Rant - Episode 5'
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2009, 09:14:34 PM »
I just can't see Mario wearing an outfit with alot of zippers. :/

That's where you would be wrong...

See, Tetsuya Nomura has complete control over the characters he created, meaning that if he wants Sora, Cloud, Tifa or any other character to sport a million zippers, leather up the wazoo and tons of chains he has the right to do so since its his game...

HOWEVER, when it comes to characters created by other companies he has no control whatsoever. I read a Kingdom Hearts article that said that Disney was very strict when it came to their characters. Yes, Mickey, Donald and Goofy wore crazy outfits, but that's because the characters themselves lent to the makeover and Disney themselves have experimented with their look for years now. But for Snow White, Hercules, Tarzan, Aladdin, Belle and the rest of the character they HAD to stay the same, going as far as not allowing characters crossover to other worlds, save for Sora, Mickey, Donald, Goofy and the summons.

So in the unlikely event that Square would make a crossover RPG with Nintendo they would be the ones to decide whether Mario stays the same, or goes for the Japanese metro look.
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Re: Response to 'Rick’s Rant - Episode 5'
« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2009, 09:35:54 PM »
The best response to Ricks Rant is to revisit old posts of his declaring the DS a gimmick and the PSP the victor of the handheld wars, and the recipient of all future third party support.

He hasn't been a very good judge of the games industry.  And like Kairon said, he just smacks of being out of touch.
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Re: Response to 'Rick’s Rant - Episode 5'
« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2009, 09:37:26 PM »
Kingdom Hearts bashing makes me very sad. :(
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Re: Response to 'Rick’s Rant - Episode 5'
« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2009, 09:46:34 PM »
The best response to Ricks Rant is to revisit old posts of his declaring the DS a gimmick and the PSP the victor of the handheld wars, and the recipient of all future third party support.

He hasn't been a very good judge of the games industry.  And like Kairon said, he just smacks of being out of touch.

And yet, I still find it weird that he appears out of nowhere and make a ranting blog entry just as we heavily discuss videogame related negativity and trolling in the forums and by the staff.

Hmmm...
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Re: Response to 'Rick’s Rant - Episode 5'
« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2009, 10:28:20 PM »
And yet, I still find it weird that he appears out of nowhere and make a ranting blog entry just as we heavily discuss videogame related negativity and trolling in the forums and by the staff.
Hmmm...

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Re: Response to 'Rick’s Rant - Episode 5'
« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2009, 11:38:15 PM »
I think it's a coincidence, guys (about the supposed negative vibe Rick showing up). It's because like he said, he doesn't want to be upstaged by fellow old-fogey and former IT Director Justin Nation.

AAAaanyway, I move that this thread be locked, since it's essentially the same discussion found in Rick's blog talkback. Anyone second this motion?
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Re: Response to 'Rick’s Rant - Episode 5'
« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2009, 12:30:51 AM »
Lock it! Go to the other thread! Which is right here!
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