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Originally posted by: stedaman
This has the smell of political influence all over it....
Strange because I thought America was big on censorship over the U.K
Nope, America is only more active in censorship when it comes to nudity (ZOMG exposed nipple! AO! AO! AO!), violence is rated much less severely in the US than most European authorities. Manhunt 1 was banned in Germany for promoting violence (usually that dubious honour is reserved for the likes of Nazi propaganda, generally bans are only placed when a medium is judged by a court to be a threat to society or peace). For an example in the reverse, Singles was rated 16 here (rated AO in the US for nudity).
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This should be a warning to everyone who says the ESRB should die. The alternative is government censorship. Shame on the British government.
No, the US law does not permit censorship (hell, restricting porn is only possible through a loophole). We had an industry group doing ratings here in Germany, one day the govt came and said "nice system, we'll take it" so suddently the industry group became a government agency.
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Ouch for Manhunt 2. Isn't the rumor/report around the game that the Saw movies are more violent then some Manhunt 2 scenarios? Though, being able to control the character is an important difference to consider.
I don't know about the BBFC but the USK considers intent as well. Manhunt has the character kill enemies more brutally than necessary and with its multiple levels of kill animations made more violent kills seem desirable, this was considered enough to make the game count as inciting violence. Meanwhile Counterstrike was targetted by politicians because they thought it makes people shoot up schools, the USK said since killing is not the goal of the game (rescuing the hostages or planting the bomb is, enemies are only killed because they are in the way) they won't consider it that bad.