Topic: Single Response Wii Launch Opinion Thread

[GoldenPhoenix]

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Originally posted by: Spak-Spang
*sigh*  I guess my single response thread is already out.

Thank you all for writing your thoughts.  This has been an informative thread.

To sum up my thoughts.  Bill, I don't think $249.99 is too much...I think it was just shocking to many.  I still think we are getting a great deal, and bundling a game is hugely important.  I hate spending money and NOT being able to use what I buy.  If you spend any money on a system you should be able to play it out of the box.  Nintendo remembered that and gave us a system that casual gamers and non gamers can buy one single product and have fun...later they can buy more stuff.

Most of the pricing is fine.  We knew that the controllers would be expensive, and they should be at about what we expect.  The launch lineup doesn't have many first party games, but it is still strong.  

Finally, Nintendo may have announced everything today, but don't think it still can't change.  If Nintendo feels it is getting bad press they can easily announce a free controller with the purchase of the system...or include a discount for half priced controller.  

This day should be more of a day of celebration instead od disappointment...and yet that is all we are doing.

Well I've come to terms with the price, at first I was quite upset (as you probaly could see from my posts) but I've begun to realize it is worth it. I guess all along my biggest concern was how this would impact sales of Wii after launch but really I still think the PS3 is way too overpriced leaving only the Xbox 360 as a system to worry about. But since Wii is changing the way games are played that could also help Wii alot even at 250$, it is still possible people may see it as the TRUE next generation console, and not some updated console with better graphics.

[Adrock]

1. I don't want Wii Sports but including Wii Sports makes sense. It's the best and easiest example of why the controller is so special while also being the most appealing to non-gamers. But, it's multiplayer. No second controller? What gives?

2. Nintendo should at least entertain the possibility of a bundle that includes the freehand controller, analog stick, and classic controller for like $60. You need those 3 pieces to play like 99% of Wii's titles. That's a fair price.

3. The freehand controller is the main unit, designed around attracting grandpa and little Suzi. The price tag of the remote itself seems to do the exact opposite, even to Nintendo fans.

4. How would cutting DVD playback help "deliver the machine at a cheaper cost" if it was released as an add-on like we all expected? True, most households have a DVD player. However, most people don't. I wanted one for my room without settling for a cheap-o DVD player made by Xyvlecziqui. Let Panasonic release it independently if paying for the DVD license was so financially crippling fr Nintendo. Don't get me wrong. DVD playback isn't a necessity, but should be available. It's an extra that I'd gladly pay for. I'm still trying to figure out why I can view photos on Wii but I can't watch movies.

5. Metroid Prime 3 getting delayed was a major deciding factor.

Basically, the launch announcements were almost exclusively "bad" news. I use quotes because it's subjective. Personally, I wasn't upset, just letdown for lack of a better word. It depends on how you see it and the pros/cons. Ultimately, it didn't make me want Wii less. In other words, I still know I'm getting it but the news enough to make me feel comfortable waiting until year to get one.  

[Spak-Spang]

I wonder how long these delays are...or how long we have to wait for another Nintendo published game.

If the Japanese launch and Europe launch is any indication we should have Wario Ware Smooth Moves in December, perhaps we will get another Nintendo game before the end of the year.

I actually think Nintendo is try to have a new Wii Nintendo game launched each month for the first year...or close to each month.  That is important and would make a huge impact on Wii software.  

Finally, I am tired of the comment this is Gamecube hardware.  NO IT ISN'T.  This is a brand new chipset.  It was designed to be low energy, and it has cost Nintendo much money in R&D.  This system is also 2-3 times more powerful than the Gamecube.  It used to be 2-3 times was the normal jump in console enhancements, but Microsoft and Sony both did something crazy, and now Nintendo fans are calling foul.

[Aussiedude]

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Originally posted by: thejeek
Wii - Europe - shafted again, as usual...

EDIT: I've had it. I'm not buying one until it costs me no more than it costs people in the US and Japan.

Exactly how I feel; willing to pay the extra for th console, but DOUBLE for the controllers WTF

[JonLeung]

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Originally posted by: KirbySStar
Speaking of online they better not making component cables an online store only again.  I want to use component cables on day one so I better be able to get them retail.

As do I, but I believe the official site says the Wii comes with an all-in-one cable that includes component output.  At least I seem to recall it did.  If so, thank goodness.  I wouldn't want my Wii games to look worse than my GameCube games, even on day one.

EDIT: Found it.  
Here it says, if you scroll down to input/oputput, it says "Output: an AV Multi-output port for component, composite or S-video".  At least it confirms it can handle it, but I guess it must've been elsewhere that I read said cable was included.

[TerribleOne]

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Originally posted by: Spak-Spang


Finally, I am tired of the comment this is Gamecube hardware.  NO IT ISN'T.  This is a brand new chipset.  It was designed to be low energy, and it has cost Nintendo much money in R&D.  This system is also 2-3 times more powerful than the Gamecube.  It used to be 2-3 times was the normal jump in console enhancements, but Microsoft and Sony both did something crazy, and now Nintendo fans are calling foul.

Mehhh.... I don't know man.. i get the feeling like Nintendo is on a money makin mission lately. Even if they spent money on R&D i don't think anyone can deny that the chipset is a couple of years old. This is all rather odd, since Nintendo is worth billions and billions I think for 250 we should be gettin more than "2-3" times. Remember this is supposed to last us until 2012 and beyond. It must be very interesting to see how they come up with these corporate decisions.

[zakkiel]

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I also remember that it was originally promised as a launch title.

By whom? I remember a lot of people hoping and assuming it would be a launch title, but I don't remember Nintendo ever confirming that. Maybe it's just been too long.

[jasonditz]

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Originally posted by: zakkiel

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I also remember that it was originally promised as a launch title.

By whom? I remember a lot of people hoping and assuming it would be a launch title, but I don't remember Nintendo ever confirming that. Maybe it's just been too long.

Satoru Iwata.  

[wandering]

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By whom?

Iwata. Around the time he revealed the Revolution to the world.
edit: beaten.

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i get the feeling like Nintendo is on a money makin mission lately.

What? You must be mistaken. I'm pretty sure Nintendo is a not-for-profit charity.  

[jasonditz]

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Originally posted by: Spak-Spang
I wonder how long these delays are...or how long we have to wait for another Nintendo published game.

If the Japanese launch and Europe launch is any indication we should have Wario Ware Smooth Moves in December, perhaps we will get another Nintendo game before the end of the year.

I actually think Nintendo is try to have a new Wii Nintendo game launched each month for the first year...or close to each month.  That is important and would make a huge impact on Wii software.  

That's a pretty plausible theory. It'd be great going forward if they can pull it off.

But then I think to myself, are they timing the development for that, or are they holding back finished games just so they'll have something to put on the cover on Nintendo Power every month?

[SixthAngel]

Why are people complaining about SSBB.  If your gonna whine do it about the new information not about something that was debunked ages ago.  Nintendo ALWAYS delays their games, get over it and learn to expect it.

I've been saying this for a while and at the risk of starting everyone up again I'll say it.  The classic controller will not be used for new games but is just for the virtual console.  Nintendo went with a single input device standard as not to confuse customers and because the new remote is the reason to buy Wii.  All games should and are going to be playable with the remote nunchuk combo (don't worry SSBB will work on both).   Nintendo is saying our way is the best loud and clear just like they need to.

[jasonditz]

Well, in the spirit of acceptance and solidarity, I'll follow their lead and put off my purchase of another Nintendo console until they get their shit together.  

[couchmonkey]

I'll play!  I managed to avoid most of the hype and a lot of the disappointment by becoming a PS3 fanboy.  As such my reactions were:

Price - Not bad, but certainly not a bargain.  Can't help but feel like Nintendo's taking advantage of PS3 and Xbork 360's high prices.

Controller price - Kind of high, although I don't think it's really unfair.  Splitting the controller up is just a ploy to hide the real cost to fans -  even Wii sports uses the nunchuck (boxing).

Launch date - I'm not sure why Nintendo has to wait so long.  If the company has 4 million units this year, could it not launch a few weeks earlier?  It's not the end of the world, but it seems like Nintendo is getting a little too comfy.

Game lineup - The loss of Metroid is disappointing, but the addition of more sports to Wii sports is awesome.  2007 looks amazing!  I'm willing to bet that Metroid or Mario Galaxy will be delayed even further, but with something like 6 games in early 2007 Wii looks great, whereas GameCube and DS had very long and very slow new years after launch.

Channels - Kind of fluffy, but after I checked out some videos I was pretty impressed.  Nice interfaces, and the more I look at them, the more I'm interested in them.  Nintendo may actually be beating Sony and Microsoft at their own "PWN the livingroom!" game.  Too bad it doesn't seem like it will even play DVD's, let alone high-def media!

Virtual console - initial lineup is too small, 10 games a month is pretty good, though.  MSX is a surprise.

Overall: The launch details were nothing great.  Not really bad news, but not good news either.  The channels are pretty cool and the games are as exciting as ever.  I am actually kind of glad that Wii sports is a pack-in, it looks fun and I think it's a good hook for those "non-gamers".  Don't fool yourselves, Nintendo would have charged $250 with or without it.  I declare that the gracious Reggie got NCL to throw it in after they demanded the $250 pricetag.

I will buy one to put next to my PS3.  I'll call them tallie and shortie, or maybe blackey and whitey (Stop Racism!)  

[Hocotate]

The price is fine. it is still the cheapest console out there, and it comes with a game. They will run circles around the five hundred and ninty-nine you ess dollars.

[GoldenPhoenix]

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Originally posted by: Hocotate
The price is fine. it is still the cheapest console out there, and it comes with a game. They will run circles around the five hundred and ninty-nine you ess dollars.

My guess is that the reason for NIntendo delaying the console until November 19th is mainly to give themselves and the 3rd parties more time to finalize their launch games.