Pages: 1 2 [3]  All   Go Down

Author Topic: if they do this on the PS3 then they have lost their minds  (Read 18079 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Kairon

  • T_T
  • NWR Staff Pro
  • Score: 48
    • View Profile
RE: if they do this on the PS3 then they have lost their minds
« Reply #50 on: November 12, 2005, 08:52:27 PM »
I doubt anyone here seriously entertains the idea of Sony doing this heavily aggressive copywright scheme on the PS3. Well, I certainly don't entertain the idea as anything but an amusing "what if."

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Logged
Carmine Red, Associate Editor

A glooming peace this morning with it brings;
The sun, for sorrow, will not show his head:
Go hence, to have more talk of these sad things;
Some shall be pardon'd, and some punished:
For never was a story of more woe
Than this of Sega and her Mashiro.

Offline KDR_11k

  • boring person
  • Score: 28
    • View Profile
RE: if they do this on the PS3 then they have lost their minds
« Reply #51 on: November 12, 2005, 10:37:23 PM »
A copywright? A duplicate of the famous pilot brothers? (copyright. The right to copy. Not copywrite, not copywright.)

This is Sony we're talking about. They have created a format that just might be able to succeed so now they're bogging it down with idiotic features so it will perpetuate the Sony track record.
Logged

Offline wandering

  • BABY DAISY IS FREAKIN HAWT
  • Score: 3
    • View Profile
    • XXX FREE HOT WADAISY PICS
RE: if they do this on the PS3 then they have lost their minds
« Reply #52 on: November 12, 2005, 11:27:16 PM »
Quote
But we're still talking about the gotta-have games... is some lame copy protection enough to stop people from buying the games?

If the ps3 prevents me from even sharing or reselling my ps3 games, then for me, yes. Because if that were to happen, there's no way I would buy a ps3.  
Logged
“...there are those who would...say, '...If I could just not have to work everyday...that would be the most wonderful life in the world.' They don't know life. Because what makes life mean something is purpose.  The battle. The struggle.  Even if you don't win it.” - Richard M. Nixon

Offline Kairon

  • T_T
  • NWR Staff Pro
  • Score: 48
    • View Profile
RE:if they do this on the PS3 then they have lost their minds
« Reply #53 on: November 13, 2005, 11:01:07 AM »
LOL. I KNEW there was something wrong with the spelling, but I juct couldn't put my thumb on it...

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Logged
Carmine Red, Associate Editor

A glooming peace this morning with it brings;
The sun, for sorrow, will not show his head:
Go hence, to have more talk of these sad things;
Some shall be pardon'd, and some punished:
For never was a story of more woe
Than this of Sega and her Mashiro.

Offline Ian Sane

  • Champion for Urban Champion
  • Score: 1
    • View Profile
RE: if they do this on the PS3 then they have lost their minds
« Reply #54 on: November 14, 2005, 08:39:44 AM »
"What if the majority of games do not use this tech. Spongebob's Big Adventure or World Poker Tour 200X are just fine and dandy used or new.
But the Big releases... Grand Theft Auto 5: Rape Yo Mama - no used games here... Socom 3 - ditto.

Would that be enough to hurt Sony?"

If anything the big releases are what matters most because that's what affects the most people.  If World Poker Tour 200X had it odds are very few people would even know about it.  But GTA?  Everyone would know about it and this is like a universally bad thing in the eyes of consumers.  If Sony wanted to do this their best bet would be to limit it to minor titles and gradually introduce it.  Though that's not a good idea either, it would just let them get away with it for a little while longer.  Basically if Sony gets caught doing this by the general public they're screwed.
Logged

Offline KDR_11k

  • boring person
  • Score: 28
    • View Profile
RE: if they do this on the PS3 then they have lost their minds
« Reply #55 on: November 15, 2005, 05:16:49 AM »
I'm not sure but that may even be illegal. There is such a thing as the First Sale Doctrine which says you can't control what happens with anything you have sold, Sony is trying to circumvent that law. Sure, the US legal system allows big companies to do pretty much everything as mere people don't have the money to keep up a lawsuit but perhaps a classaction is possible.
Logged

Offline wandering

  • BABY DAISY IS FREAKIN HAWT
  • Score: 3
    • View Profile
    • XXX FREE HOT WADAISY PICS
RE: if they do this on the PS3 then they have lost their minds
« Reply #56 on: November 15, 2005, 05:55:15 AM »
Well, I was thinking that too....the problem is, I think videogames and other software are "licensed" rather than sold....
Logged
“...there are those who would...say, '...If I could just not have to work everyday...that would be the most wonderful life in the world.' They don't know life. Because what makes life mean something is purpose.  The battle. The struggle.  Even if you don't win it.” - Richard M. Nixon

Offline KDR_11k

  • boring person
  • Score: 28
    • View Profile
RE: if they do this on the PS3 then they have lost their minds
« Reply #57 on: November 15, 2005, 07:39:11 AM »
No. Some software comes with an EULA that, when agreed to, turns your sales contract into a license contract (if you live in a country where that is allowed, here in Germany EULAs are invalid). Console software just comes as a disc with notices like "not for rent, public performance, duplication ...". That is NOT a license. You have bought a physical box including a physical medium that contains copyrighted code. That is akin to buying a newspaper or a music CD. You buy the physical carrier, not a license to the data or anything. Unless those console games require you to agree to an EULA to access them AND that cannot be circumvented (because there is no legal requirement for such a contract to exist and First Sale prevents the manufacturer from telling you what to do with that disc in absence of a contract) so there is no reasonable doubt that you may not have agreeed to the EULA the sales contract is the only valid contract that relates to anything in the box. Normal copyright applies to anything you haven't signed a contract over so you can use it however you like as long as you do not violate the copyright (the right to copy and create derivatives, it includes nothing else, no right to control usage or anything).

Copyright does not cover volatile (RAM) copies the devices make in order to interpret the data.
Logged

Offline stevey

  • Young HAWNESS
  • Score: 15
    • View Profile
RE: if they do this on the PS3 then they have lost their minds
« Reply #58 on: November 15, 2005, 11:05:42 AM »
eula are evil all they do is stop you form have fun and give you spywear. this is $ony evil eula
Logged
My Demands and Declarations:
nVidia is CRAP!!!
BOYCOTT Digest mode and LEGEND OF OO!
Your PM box will be spammed with Girl Link porn! NO EXCEPTION!
Wii want WaveBirds
Stevey Duff
NWR HAWTNESS Inspector
NWR Staff All Powerful Satin!

Offline Avinash_Tyagi

  • Score: 0
    • View Profile
RE:if they do this on the PS3 then they have lost their minds
« Reply #59 on: November 16, 2005, 11:55:28 AM »
Well Sony has now stated that the PS3 will not be locked against used/borrowed games, my guess is the DRM fiasco scared them sufficiently to put the kaibosh on their plans.
Logged

Offline KDR_11k

  • boring person
  • Score: 28
    • View Profile
RE: if they do this on the PS3 then they have lost their minds
« Reply #60 on: November 17, 2005, 02:24:12 AM »
Hehe, too bad I think all they've learned is "Hide it better next time!".
Logged
Pages: 1 2 [3]  All   Go Up