Topic: Hardcore ssmb

[zakkiel]

Final destination is not a neutral level. As a DK player I can attest to that. There is no such thing as a neutral level, so a tournament should really feature variety.

[IceCold]

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Originally posted by: zakkiel

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but they want to show how skilful (yes this is correct sp.)

So is "skillful." One of those ambiguous words.

Yea - that's what I meant; I didn't want someone to say that you don't spell skilful that way, because it can be spelled in two different ways  

[RABicle]

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As for the right way to play: Rabicle, I see what your talking about, but when it comes to tournaments NO ONE should have an advantage. That means no items that can turn the tide of the match, and also means no crazy levels where one player can excell compared to the other.

But the whole point is that items are the neutraliser. Items make characters like Pichu and Mewtwo far more playable. 4 player bouts reduce Marth's dominance of 1 on 1. When you have a four player melee with items you don't have the oppourtunity to thouroughly exploit any major advantages, it's game on and if your good enough you can still overcome an opponent with a hammer or star.
Smash Bros isn't as deep as other fighting games and it's comepletely different, so why try and pretend that it is when you play?

[Don'tHate742]

Difference of opinion.....

[darknight06]

"But the whole point is that items are the neutraliser. Items make characters like Pichu and Mewtwo far more playable. 4 player bouts reduce Marth's dominance of 1 on 1."

If items were the neutralizer, then Bowser would be on even terms with the rest of the cast, he is not.  Even with items on, around here characters like Bowser, Mewtwo, and Pichu are the first ones dead.  Sheik and friends still  rip up whether it's 1-1 or 4 player melee items or no.  

"I don't think Hyrule castle is an issue at all. In fact it is easily my favorite level."

No.  When someone other than Peach can stay alive at 200%+ by going down in the trenches so the only good KO move is either a spike or a Smash at near 300% that's when I call it broken.  And I don't think the banning of Termina in tournaments would need an explanation either.

[RABicle]

But you see with items anyone can kill anyone on Hyrule Castle. It doesn't matter how good you are or what character you choose, if your over 150% and get hit with a bomb-omb your pretty much gone.

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Even with items on, around here characters like Bowser, Mewtwo, and Pichu are the first ones dead.

In the hands of a good player pichu is first to items nearly every time. Mewtwo uses items better than anyone by that he has greator range with them and treats them all lightly. Plus when playing on moving stages like Big Blue and Poke Floats, mewtwos dominance in the air comes clear.

[nickmitch]

I haven't herd anyone speak about Mewtwo that much since Pokémon: The First Movie.

Edit: Baaa zing!