Topic: New Iwata quotes

[ThePerm]

also, a note. Alot of people have been specuklaing what the bulk of ead is doing. They havn't released to many big projects this generation and most people speculate that they actually have quie a few innovative products on the way.

[KDR_11k]

How many people does EAD have? Most devteams work on only one game at a time and therefore one game every 1.5-2 years is reasonable.

[Bill Aurion]

EAD doesn't have many "announced" projects in the works...

~~Mario 128 (could be in the works at Tokyo EAD)
~~Nintendogs
~~Mario Kart DS
~~Animal Crossing DS
~~Super Mario Brothers DS
~~Super Princess Peach (which could technically be done by another dev...It hasn't been announced yet)
~~Zelda XII (which I could argue, but I won't )

I wonder if EAD (the Kyoto branch at least) will have anymore GC projects...

[Don'tHate742]

I totally forgot about the SquareEnix news. It's very interesting, since GameSpy has been officially announced to bring Online as well. What is going on at the Nintendo Online scene? Two major companies, one Japanese, one American, providing some sort of Online experience......this is all too weird.

As for the controller, I heard also slingshot that Iwata stated that the Rev. won't use a touchscreen. It's in an interview that was held a couple day to a week after the GDC keynote.

What I like most about this thread is how people's faith can easily be rattled around. Let me ask a series of questions for all those that feel Nintendo is going to abandon them......

~What does the word "expand" mean?

~Nintendo wants to compete with the PS3. Does going for a different market of users than Sony, compete with Sony? (Hint: look at DS vs. PSP)

~Why would developers be interested in developing for a console who's sole goal is too attract those that don't play games?

~Nintendo Rev. is going online (Nemo your crazy!). What type of games could possible be so popular for multiplayer, that Online is basically a must?

~Would Nintendo make a profit next gen if their hardcor base of fans (the biggest base just so you know), jumped ship due to neglect?  

[Hostile Creation]

I agree with Truthliesn1seyes (what a name).  You people are really over-reacting, I mean listen to yourselves.  Do you honestly think Nintendo is going to make a controller that's so simple it won't play Zelda?  The idea is ridiculous!  They're still going to be making genuine, awesome, quality Nintendo games that we hardcore gamers like, but there's nothing wrong with expanding your audience.  And being popular is not directly related to how good it is, the two are entirely unrelated.  I've known unintelligent, normal people to enjoy worthwhile things, the problem is they don't make an effort to find the better things and so they force themselves to like the mundane.  Nintendo is going to them, though, providing the possibility, so hopefully these people will find Nintendo without Nintendo sacrificing any quality.
I was going to use examples, but let's just think of Nintendo.  NES and SNES - everyone owned them, even nongamers played them since it was still simple, but they're considered the best time in video games and it's Nintendo's golden age.
Nintendo is a company that can maintain quality and quantity at the same time.  Not many can, but they've already proven that they can.  I dunno why everyone's so whiney and worried.

[couchmonkey]

Don't believe touch screen claims for a second.  I also recall Nintendo stating that the new control method is not a touch screen.  And even if we say that I'm just imagining that or my memory's going on me, consider this:

1. There's nothing more intuitive about a touch screen controller than a regular controller if it can display ANY set of input developers want...that just makes it harder to use because the layout is always changing on you.
2. Nintendo is well aware that touch is an important part of gaming.  They've always developed controllers with distinctive button shapes and layouts because being able to feel the controller is key to using it without always looking at it.  A touch-screen gives you no way to play without looking down at the controller.
3. If Nintendo thinks customizable game controls via touch screen are really the wave of the future, why isn't it doing more games like that on the DS?

I'm glad to hear developers are happy with Nintendo's new idea.  Third party support is possibly the biggest key to success with game consoles.

[Bill Aurion]

One point of input on touch screen = no chance of "traditional" games = NOT possible when we have backwards compatibility...End...of...story...

[KnowsNothing]

It's been confirmed that...

- the controller will not have a touchscreen
- when they say wifi they mean internet

Mmmmay?  I suggest listend to TEH REGGIE (I love how he doesn't use any articles before mentioning Ninty systems~)

[kirby_killer_dedede]

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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
Iwata feels controllers have gotten too complex for non-gamers. My natural response to that is "and I should care why?" since I'm not a non-gamer and don't care if others don't "get it" provided I do.

Guess what, Ian?  You need to pull your head out of your ass and realize this isn't "Ninty's chance to please only Ian"...They are trying to expand the market, and to say "Oh I do not agree because I don't care about non-gamers" is hilarious...And I love how you keep on assuming "simplicity = bad game" when Jungle Beat proves the exact opposite...

The truth is I like it when my mother isn't interested in something I am.

So is this supposed to be a reason?  Oh noes, my mom likes something I do...IT IS NOT COOL ANYMORE!

How can Nintendo make a controller that everyone, regardless of experience (or intelligence), can use that can effectively play the types of games they make now?

*once AGAIN points at Jungle Beat*

And you are seriously underestimating the ideas behind controllers...You don't need lots of buttons for functionality...

Okay, I'm ready to make the same arguments as Ian.  And the constant reference to Jungle Beat pisses me off.  Sure!  It was a great game.  I'll give you that.  But I don't want to play Zelda with a goddamn sword shaped one-button controller, I want to play with a freaking controller that has like 12 buttons on it.

Which is why I disagree with Ian on one part...Nintendo's not stupid.  They're not going to change Zelda or something so drastically it's not even the same game anymore.  And lose 75% of their fan base.  The other 25 % is going to include all the "OMG LOL NINTY IS GOD MAKE LOVE TO ME IWATA" types.  Bill included.  (no offense, I just mean you're probably the biggest Nintendo fanboy ever going to read this)

And frankly I'm extremely pleased that 3rd parties are positive towards Rev.

[Bill Aurion]

The other 25 % is going to include all the "OMG LOL NINTY IS GOD MAKE LOVE TO ME IWATA" types. Bill included. (no offense, I just mean you're probably the biggest Nintendo fanboy ever going to read this)

Chuuuuu...

12 button controller, that's a laugh...Won't be happening...

[kirby_killer_dedede]

Um...a, b, x, y, r, l, z, start/pause.  d-pad + control stick + c stick.

That's 11.  I realize the latter three aren't buttons but that's what I meant.  You get my gist.

What pisses me off almost as much as the constant comparison to Jungle Beat is the constant "durrrrr maybe it's a touch screeeen controller eheheheeeee?"

1) Nintendo believes in innovation, not using the same ideas over and over again.  We're not going to see touch screen technology beyond the DS, unless it's included on some sort of next-gen DS.

2) It won't work.  Many (in fact most, now that I think about it) games require that two buttons/button+control stick/etc be used at the same time.  Touch screen technology hasn't progressed far enough two sense two points of contact/input at the same time.  Try it on PictoChat with your spare stylus or something, won't work.

3) IWATA F'ING SAID IT WOULDN'T BE ONE.  Too lazy to c/p the quote, but it's in the N-Sider.com Revolution FAQ I believe.  

[PaLaDiN]

Such anger...

I think some of you are deliberately misinterpreting the point of the Jungle Beat comments. The point isn't that bongos are perfect for every game, the point is that even a controller as simple as a bongo can provide for some amazingly deep and fun gameplay.

[nemo_83]

I am not going to rent or buy Jungle Beat, but I respect the tv commercial and the abstract controls.

As far as online goes, I know that Nintendo is going to go online with Revolution.  But how do you define online?  What services are still available for free?  Will there be added services available for a small fee?  Will we be able to trade maps or weapons online?  Will we be able to make a stage using a third party level editor and charge other gamers online to download it?  Will third parties be kept from charging gamers just to play online?  Will third parties still be able to charge for downloads?  

[vudu]

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Um...a, b, x, y, r, l, z, start/pause. d-pad + control stick + c stick.

That's 11. I realize the latter three aren't buttons but that's what I meant. You get my gist.

For a game like Metroid Prime (where the D-pad and C-stick are used as if they were four buttons each, that makes a total of sixteen buttons plus an analog stick.  

[zakkiel]

I'm 99% sure you won't be able to charge other gamers for anything online. Seems pretty damn obvious, given that every game made with an editor says right in the EULA that you're prohibited from charging people for your stuff. It also seems pretty obvious to me that levels and such will be swappable. Finally, I doubt Ninty or third parties will charge for online play, because it would be a horrible business decision. There's exactly one kind of game that can charge for online play and get away with it; anything that isn't an MMORPG will elicit shrieks of outrage. Why the hell should I have to pay to play a shooter online on a console when I can do it for free on my PC?

[PaLaDiN]

"There's exactly one kind of game that can charge for online play and get away with it; anything that isn't an MMORPG will elicit shrieks of outrage."

Unless you're Microsoft.

[IceCold]

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Originally posted by: Savior
So a Balance is nececary, and iwata needs to shut up. I personally hope Reggie gets more air time from now on. Reggie knows how to speak, and do it well. Everytime Iwata speaks it leads to controversy and discussion and doubt. Let him stay in Japan in an office somewhere and do his president thing. Let Reggie take point on all press.

Damn, Savior. You're making it sound like Iwata is the spawn of Satan. Reggie says exactly the same thing as Iwata, except in ENGLISH. When Iwata does his interviews in Japanese, it gets lost in translation. If you were Japanese, you would probably be questioning what Reggie was saying as well, but to us it's normal...

[PaLaDiN]

Yeah... I loved Iwata's English GDC speech more than anything Reggie's come up with so far, except for kicking ass and taking names.