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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Sales would be better on PS2 or Xbox!
« on: October 24, 2003, 03:40:51 AM »
Great responses guys. To answer some of the questions

Gamecube games under 50,000 = 116,  whilst games under 200,000 = 186

Number of gamecube games = 243 = 76% under 200,000 units
Number of PS2 Games = 529 = 63%  under 200,000 units
Number of Xbox games = 275 = 78% under 200,000 units

Please note that these figures are only for America ( June NPD figures). Since June there have certainly been more games released on PS2 and Xbox than on the cube, however I have not taken those tallies into account because I haven’t got sales figures for them anyway.

Also of note:
Million Sellers (America only – June figures)
Gamecube million sellers = 3, currently 4
PS2 million sellers = 24 = current
Xbox = 2, currently 3

It is a fact that all three consoles have less than expected sales figures and my thread was not to start any flame wars but rather it was directed at the comments of certain fanboys and certain websites who continually state “Aw, gee, if that game was released on Playstation or Xbox it would sell millions”. It was also as Raising_Hell so adequately described directed to the apathy of so many game developers and to a larger extent the wisdom of many of the games publishers, who, from what I can see, are completely oblivious to certain fundamentals in a games ability to sell, or what indeed, actually makes a good game.  If a game is substandard or mediocre they are not going to admit to that and once that game is released the Gamecube has to bear the brunt of the developers laziness and sloppiness.( sloppy ports etc.) Then of course, the publisher blames the Cube’s demise and so we see more and more games not being released on the Cube. Yet I still stick to my original statement. If the same game is released on PS2 and Gamecube and the PS2 version with a 14 million more userbase can only sell less than 200,000 copies, how the hell can the Cube be expected to sell the same. Yet that is exactly what the publishers are expecting!. If it doesn’t it’s out the door. There are examples of games which just defy logic and one such case is Soul Calibur ll. Now here is a case of the Cube outselling the two other consoles, but if I were Namco, I would be asking, “Who in God’s name has bought these 18 million PS2’s”. Surely Namco would be entitled to think that sales on that system would have to be far greater. So much for the theory, “Let’s release it on the PS2, it’ll sell better”.  So much for the theory “If they released it on the Playstaion or the xbox, it’ll sell millions”. The truth is not many games (this generation) achieve the million status and sometimes when they do, you have to ask,”Why ?”

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Nintendo Gaming / Sales would be better on PS2 or Xbox!
« on: October 23, 2003, 12:18:44 PM »
I read the forums  a lot but I  rarely comment, but when I keep hearing the comments that  a certain game would sell more on PS2 or Xbox ( eg. Resident Evil or Rogue Squadron series), it really irks me. Did you know that unit  sales of under 50,000 on Playstation 2 = 152 titles  and on the Xbox sales under 50,000 = 119 titles. Also if you take the sales figures higher to, say, 200,000 then PS2 has a whopping 336 titles that have sold less than 200,000 copies. On the same scale Xbox has 213. Now that is a lot of games that publishers and developers and so called arm chair critics should look at. What, with a user base of 18 million PS2’s in America the theory “It will sell better on Playstation, so let’s develop it” certainly flies out the door. 200,000 sales on a system that has 18 million clients would have to be considered a pretty poor return. If I was a developer I would be absolutely horrified at those figures.
My stats are based on the NPD sales figures.
Just food for thought.  

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