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General Chat / Can you read something for me and give me feedback?
« on: October 02, 2003, 04:18:40 PM »
I have a screenplay that needs to be proofed. Can you help? Thanks.
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Originally posted by: DrGAKMAN
Wait wait wait...
I can't believe any of you would think that Nintendo & Sony would ever work together. Sony doesn't want to and Nintendo doesn't want to...blam...simple as that. The Microsoft situation is different 'cos you KNOW that Microsoft DOES want to get with Nintendo...right now it's just a question of if Nintendo will even consider it. If Nintendo's big brass considered a Microsoft buyout before this generation even started then surely they might be interested in a partnership next generation. #1 they're doing even worse userbase/mindshare wise than they were coming off the N64. #2 Mr. Yamauchi (the main one who was against Microsoft buying them out pre-GAMECUBE) is no longer in charge at Nintendo. #3 Microsoft surely knows that Nintendo won't be bowled over by selling out and even if they were it'd be too costly to Microsoft to straight out buy them. So...Microsoft is probably aiming for more agreeable terms to Nintendo 'cos they have to.
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As far as the comment about Nintendo making money...yes...we all know that Nintendo is STILL very profitable despite their low console userbase...BUT...most of those profits come from milking the GameBoy brand...a brand which will soon be threatened by the PSP. So if Nintendo continues the way they are they will continue to lose console mindshare & userbase (which cuts into profits) and have to worry about losing their cashcow in the GameBoy line. So no, Nintendo isn't always going to be profitable if they continue to lose userbase which now (thanks to casual gamers being the driving force in the market) is shaped by mindshare.
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Then someone coupled the above point about how profitable Nintendo is and how profitable Microsoft isn't. Yes that's a good point if we're talking about a merger or a buyout...but not a PARTNERSHIP. Microsoft can continue to do business the way they want to and Nintendo likewise...only now they get to share each others games to garner more support from retailers, gamers, developers & publishers alike!
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I used to be very anti-MS, still have a part of me that is...but I can't deny their strengths in the games market. And while alot of the anti-MS sentiment will gladly point out how much Microsoft is "throwing away" on the X-BOX, they ignore the fact that that's the way Microsoft planned to do it anyways. They knew that in order to garner support away from the industry leader (Sony) and the industry veteran (Nintendo) they would have to spend spend spend. That doesn't forever mean they are gonna lose and never gain. In fact I would wager to say that's one of the reasons they would want to partner with Nintendo...why...'cos despite their dwindling market presense and despite competing against two behemoth companies Nintendo remains profitable. I mean look, they went to ATi just as Nintendo did so therefore you know they're looking to get more bang for their buck just like Nintendo did with GAMECUBE (which despite it's power being closely on par with the X-BOX, cost them a fraction of what was spent on the X-BOX). To me, that's a big indicator that Microsoft wants to learn from Nintendo so that instead of "wasting" money on their game projects they can instead MAKE money like Nintendo does.
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The comment about "if Nintendo wanted to win, they'd add DVD" bla bla bla is so lame. There is no ONE way for any company to "win". And who said anything really about winning? I just said with a partnership with Microsoft they'd do better to actually be able to truly compete against Sony. The best thing about this is that instead of having two competitors being seperate they would only have ONE being together...and those odds are alot better than what they've got now.
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You guys need to get out of the mentality that Microsoft would somehow OWN Nintendo by partnering with them. What I am thinking of (and surely they are thinking of if they're considering getting together) would be less risky, less expensive and be more benificial all the while not compromising one anothers plans/philosophies. The idea is simply that they're format would be universal between the two systems so that each others games sell to each others markets increasing their mindshare, their userbase and their overall pressense in the industry.
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Imagine, as a Nintendo fan, walking into a GameStop and Nintendo (with of course Microsoft) FINALLY getting the shelfspace and placement they desserve. Imagine reading a mainstream news article about video games where, instead of them dogging, forgetting or downright ignoring Nintendo, they actually talk about them and give them their proper respect. Imagine being able to read a game magazine where someone is actually happy to reveiw a Nintendo game and not pissing on it 'cos it was a "sloppy port" or "not on the right system" bla bla bla. Imagine actually having 3RD parties making games for YOU instead of sighing 'cos the game is on everything else but Nintendo's system. Imagine a GameStop clerk actually telling you that the newest M Rated game IS in for your Nintendo system and IS available instead of him snooding out: "teH GAMEPUBE is R teH kiddie and therefore we don't carry that game 'cos they don't sell for it!" Imagine Nintendo's delight when the damned shareholders are off their NUTS and they can stop worrying about them and how their marketshare is dwindling and instead worry about making games better all the while watching their games soar up top selling charts 'cos now (thanks to Microsoft's audience buying their games too) their games are selling way better. Imagine a game conversation where people actually take Nintendo seriously. Imagine asking someone to play a Nintendo game and/or on a Nintendo system with them and them not staring at you and saying: "don't you have an X-BOXda or a PlayStation yo!"
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Originally posted by: DrGAKMAN
Uhhhhh...
I think their individual console sales would be moot at this point since they BOTH play the same games. Exclussives are moot too since they're really not trying to outsell each other, but instead, Sony...or at least compete.
Giving gamers a choice between a cheaper Nintendo made games-only machine and an all-in-one Microsoft system that both play the same games is not only good, but diversifying people's tastes without really competing with one another. I've forgotten that this isn't gaming-age.com where I've been talking about my Nintendo going more portable theory for a while now. I believe that Nintendo will aim to make their next system discman sized and make it to where the next GameBoy can display GAMECUBE quality visuals so you can hook them up together and ultimatly play next generation games on the go. This would be more than the perfect answer to PSP *and* cosolidate Nintendo's GameBoy dominance with their ailing console line to create a uber-portable/console market all their own. Microsoft's machine will not just play games, but I imagine will have alot of features the PSX3 has. The big thing is now, if they team up now they can have each others games as an extra selling point to their systems over Sony's. While Microsoft would probably do better in America with their bigger badder system, Nintendo would most likely do better in Japan since it's name/system design will do alot better there for that market...but either way it doesn't matter 'cos the *real* money is in the software and I garauntee if they were to team up they would sell more software. It would really benifit developers 'cos, by making just one game for them, they reach two completly diverse markets. It would benifit gamers 'cos instead of having to buy two systems to enjoy Microsoft & Nintendo's software libraries they'll only have to buy one.
This talk of a Sony team up is what's *really* rediculous. Sony has already drawn the battle lines with PSP...they're not gonna back down...they want to force Nintendo out of the market or force them to go 3RD party...not to team up with them. Sony are control freaks, they would want Nintendo to drop the GAMECUBE & GameBoy line before joining them thus making them dependant on Sony. Microsoft may have wanted that before this generation, but they know that Nintendo won't give up their portable or console lines and be b!tched into making games for someone elses system. Besides, Microsoft doesn't want Nintendo to ditch the strong GameBoy line for some silly "X-BOY" either...I'm sure they're more willing to come to terms than Sony is...why...'cos Sony is dominant and therefore arogant where as Microsoft is in the same boat as Nintendo...under Sony's boot.