Hahaha!!! So that's why Harmonix wanted to push the Wii version of the first game out so fast and without any effort. Did I say no effort? I meant technical limitations, because we all know that the Wii can't handle character creators, downloadble content, and online play. Must suck to have bought that.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Nick DiMola on June 30, 2008, 01:34:57 PM
Meh who cares how little effort they put into Rock Band for Wii? The game was excellent on other consoles, so even having it available on Wii is great for gamers who can't play it otherwise. Since Activision took over GH the series has lost its luster for me, so I couldn't care less about GH: World Tour. Rock Band will fill the full band void for gamers who feel the same.
I can't imagine being a gamer in the current market owning only the Wii. To experience the best of this generation gamers NEED to own another system.
Anyway, on Rock Band 2 I hope they figure a way to outdo GH World Tour. I still haven't gotten the first, but will whenever 2 manages to come out.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Morari on June 30, 2008, 01:50:26 PM
My other system is called a PC; it has always, overall, had the best games anyway.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Nick DiMola on June 30, 2008, 02:08:46 PM
My other system is called a PC; it has always, overall, had the best games anyway.
Well as long as you have something else, owning only the Wii is not enough for most gaming enthusiasts out there.
I personally can't keep up with the PC rat race. I'm not interested in always having the best rig and I never liked sitting in front of the computer to play games, I'd rather sit on my couch.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: BranDonk Kong on June 30, 2008, 02:25:00 PM
RockBand 2 will be great. All the instruments and DLC (Xbox 360 and PS3) will work between both games, as in RockBand 2 DLC on RockBand 1, and visa-versa.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: EasyCure on June 30, 2008, 04:04:25 PM
Rock Band won't have user created songs, that means GH:WT will most likely get my money. The new guitar sounds interesting too because you can slide up and down the neck. I actually always envisioned ways they could make the controlers a little more like a real guitar play-wise and a touch interface along the entire length of the neck was always somethign i thought would be perfect but figured it would be too expensive to do.
if you don't know what i'm talking about, think about the i-pods scroll wheel or the i-rivers scroll vertical pad. Imagine that smooth surface along the neck of a guitar and the classic GH button collors repeated up the neck to the bridge (replacing fret markers of real guitars). There'd be no more button, just the color mark that you can press in and feel a click or some other form of feedback to know you have that fret pressed, but the whole neck would still be one smooth surface. With that layout it would feel more like playing a real guitar, and although i don't know any details on what GH:WT's guitars can actually do, it sounds like they're taking one step closer to that.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Kairon on June 30, 2008, 04:15:54 PM
It looks like MS has a timed exclusive on this one, and then it'll come out on Wii, PS3 and PS2 sometime later according to that article.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: EasyCure on June 30, 2008, 04:26:17 PM
even more reason to skip it and buy the next GH.
besides, the only advantage this would have over GH is if you were already a RB owner for ps360 because all your DLC would automatically transfer over to the new game. As a wii owner (doesn't matter if i have GH or RB currently) that advantage is gone, thus no reason to put it ahead of GH:WT (again, as a wii owner)
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on June 30, 2008, 04:29:05 PM
I am probably going to skip GHIV barring any big differences. The music creation aspect of GHIV is pretty lame to me because you can't record vocals, I'm not interested in anything else!
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Morari on June 30, 2008, 05:57:38 PM
Well as long as you have something else, owning only the Wii is not enough for most gaming enthusiasts out there.
I personally can't keep up with the PC rat race. I'm not interested in always having the best rig and I never liked sitting in front of the computer to play games, I'd rather sit on my couch.
I don't think that I could get by on just any one console. Besides, the 360 is seems to be pretty full of badly ported PC games anyway. To be fair however, the Wii definitely has many more games that interest me than the PS3 probably ever will. I can't even think of any exclusives off the top of my head outside of Metal Gear Solid 4.
I hear the "disbain for PCs" spiel a lot from people, and it's a perfectly understandable opinion. However, I must say that I think it is slightly misguided in most cases. PC upgrades can easily be done every few years for several hundred dollars, putting it at about the same price and timeframe as getting a new console. I would much rather sit at my computer desk for immersing games like first person shooters and RPGs. If you have everything sit up well, it should be perfectly comfortable. Angle your monitor properly, have your arms of your desk chair level with the keyboard/mouse tray, use wrist pads for said keyboard and mouse, etc. Obviously though, if you just don't like the setting itself, you just don't like it. ;)
RockBand 2 will be great. All the instruments and DLC (Xbox 360 and PS3) will work between both games, as in RockBand 2 DLC on RockBand 1, and visa-versa.
What would be the point in playing Rock Band 2 songs in Rock Band 1? Outside of the songs that come on the disc, there won't really be any reason to even have the first Rock Band anymore.
I am probably going to skip GHIV barring any big differences. The music creation aspect of GHIV is pretty lame to me because you can't record vocals, I'm not interested in anything else!
I agree to some extent. If I wanted to make custom tracks, I'd load up Frets on Fire. That said, I'm sure that they'll be plenty of great instrumentals put out by people.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Deguello on June 30, 2008, 06:04:42 PM
LOL That's a retarded move on EA's part.
It's not like Guitar Hero is less popular than RockBand. So they've elected to limit their sales and allow the Guitar Hero Monster to shake loose on every platform, including the market leader, in order to compete with Guitar Hero IV on one platform?
Idiots.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 30, 2008, 06:27:14 PM
Brand positioning at its finest!
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on June 30, 2008, 09:18:20 PM
EA/MTV/Harmonix are easily handing the Sony and Nintendo market to Activision with this decision and giving up the Nintendo market is a really dumb idea because thats where most of the casuals are and GH3 is still kicking ass on the Wii charts. Giving up the Sony market is also dumb because that's where Harmonix's roots are.
With that in mind Rock Band is still the superior music game, me buying Guitar Hero On Tour for the DS was a its a buy 2 get 1 free sale so why the hell not situation and it was an okay decision at best with the peripheral being a bit of a mess.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Deguello on June 30, 2008, 10:12:24 PM
Superior or Not, I'd imagine people will get their taste of "Peripheral-based" music games on consoles that aren't the 360. This leaves the "casuals" to snap up Guitar Hero IV on the market leader exclusively and have it be the standard Rock Band has to beat after timed exclusiveness.
They will regret this decision when Guitar Hero World Tour shakes loose this holiday and they have decided to self-sabotage themselves.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: BranDonk Kong on July 01, 2008, 12:02:27 AM
Nah. Now that there's already an "all instrument game" out on every console, I think most people will go for RockBand 2, rather than blow another $200 on GHWT, also, RB2 will be out first. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say the "timed exclusive period" is going to be 1 month at the most.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Deguello on July 01, 2008, 12:20:33 AM
When it comes down to branding war between Rock Band and Guitar Hero, it'll be Guitar Hero that pulls away the victor.
Watch as people get "introduced" to all instrument music games through Guitar Hero simply because it's a more familiar name. Rock Band needs to be on as many platforms as possible in order to compete. Not GIMP itself for an MS moneyhat.
It's a stupid decision, and I say this as a fan of NEITHER game.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Nick DiMola on July 01, 2008, 06:46:28 AM
I agree I think MTV/EA is really making a mistake here. This game needs to hit all platforms simultaneously and have a massive marketing push behind it. I don't necessarily think that they will lose ground on the PS3, but I do think they are just giving away the Wii market, which as Jonny mentioned on the latest podcast, has the largest potential for massive sales out of all three markets.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Shift Key on July 01, 2008, 06:50:36 AM
I am probably going to skip GHIV barring any big differences. The music creation aspect of GHIV is pretty lame to me because you can't record vocals, I'm not interested in anything else!
I don't understand this statement. So you can't put the vocals on the game...you know how hard and time consuming that would be...besides the legal issues involved with that?
First you would have to sing it and get all the tones correctly the first time, and have the game read it perfectly, then you would have to text write in the words to each song created, and position perfectly for syncing up with the game. That sounds very difficult.
Instead, you realize that you can write a song and then your singer of the band and just memorize the words...like a real band. Sure it makes it harder to share, but it still works.
I personally can't wait to see the first Guitar Hero 4 BAND. Someone playing on Youtube and locally, singing songs they created using Guitar Hero and playing the songs on Guitar Hero.
I am purely a Wii owner so if I wanted this game...I would buy it for Wii...and probably get the instruments, but at a $200.00 price tag it is too expensive for me.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on July 01, 2008, 12:20:27 PM
I am probably going to skip GHIV barring any big differences. The music creation aspect of GHIV is pretty lame to me because you can't record vocals, I'm not interested in anything else!
I don't understand this statement. So you can't put the vocals on the game...you know how hard and time consuming that would be...besides the legal issues involved with that?
First you would have to sing it and get all the tones correctly the first time, and have the game read it perfectly, then you would have to text write in the words to each song created, and position perfectly for syncing up with the game. That sounds very difficult.
Instead, you realize that you can write a song and then your singer of the band and just memorize the words...like a real band. Sure it makes it harder to share, but it still works.
I personally can't wait to see the first Guitar Hero 4 BAND. Someone playing on Youtube and locally, singing songs they created using Guitar Hero and playing the songs on Guitar Hero.
I am purely a Wii owner so if I wanted this game...I would buy it for Wii...and probably get the instruments, but at a $200.00 price tag it is too expensive for me.
Maybe because I don't want to take the time to record the music if vocals are not recorded? Not to mention Rock Band has 1 year head start on GHIV.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Morari on July 01, 2008, 02:25:28 PM
I really fail to see how recording vocals could have any legal ramifications that recording music doesn't. Do you think an instrumental cover is going to be looked upon any more favorably than a poorly sung cover?
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: vudu on July 01, 2008, 02:31:43 PM
Unless you're Peter Frampton you won't be able to make your guitar talk. If they allow vocals they'll have to make sure there's no bad language, no (unauthorized) advertisements, and no giving your home address so young children can come visit you after they are promised free cookies and punch.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: EasyCure on July 01, 2008, 06:10:45 PM
I am probably going to skip GHIV barring any big differences. The music creation aspect of GHIV is pretty lame to me because you can't record vocals, I'm not interested in anything else!
thats cuz gurlz can't rock they just want to sing like snow white.
get a kareoke machine
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 01, 2008, 06:38:29 PM
OMG RELIGION DISCUSSION
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: nickmitch on July 01, 2008, 07:50:15 PM
I am probably going to skip GHIV barring any big differences. The music creation aspect of GHIV is pretty lame to me because you can't record vocals, I'm not interested in anything else!
thats cuz gurlz can't rock they just want to sing like snow white.
get a kareoke machine
They sell those at Target.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: EasyCure on July 01, 2008, 08:01:36 PM
I am probably going to skip GHIV barring any big differences. The music creation aspect of GHIV is pretty lame to me because you can't record vocals, I'm not interested in anything else!
thats cuz gurlz can't rock they just want to sing like snow white.
get a kareoke machine
They sell those at Target.
they also sell ipode kareoke machines at Toys R us.
Know what they sell at both?
Rock Band.
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Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: nickmitch on July 01, 2008, 09:17:12 PM
Well, on the subject, I'm getting GH:WT. GH came to the Wii first, so it won my money. Whether or not I buy all the instruments in another matter entirely. I might get a mic, if I decide to get GH:A with an extra guitar. This would allow me to play it here, during my internship.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on July 01, 2008, 10:01:41 PM
Well, on the subject, I'm getting GH:WT. GH came to the Wii first, so it won my money. Whether or not I buy all the instruments in another matter entirely. I might get a mic, if I decide to get GH:A with an extra guitar. This would allow me to play it here, during my internship.
So? Guitar Hero 3 came out before Rock Band on all 3 systems. My problem with Guitar Hero now is Activision lost focus on the franchise and went to whore out mode with it. GH: OT was a experiment that was a good try but felt like they fumbled it, GH: Aerosmith is just a band specific expansion that reviewers ended up saying that it is a rental at best. GH: WT just feels like a forceful snub at Rock Band that could ultimately backfire.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: EasyCure on July 01, 2008, 10:16:57 PM
you really feel that way?
I don't normally like using arguments like this, that make it sound like i'll believe anything a dev/publisher spews out, but Activision has been planning on expanding on the Hero series for awhile now. I remember back when GH2 came out i'd read news on a Drum Hero project and thinking "that could be really cool or really dumb". Part of what i thought would be dumb is they made it sound like they were planning it as a stand alone title.
I dunno, maybe i'm just not fanboy enough to get into the Harmonix vs Neversoft debates or feel that GH is just trying to be RB. I just feel that a game Band game is a natural evolution from a single Guitar game, so why does it matter what title it falls under? If Harmonix had never split from Activision they would of already had GH:WT by now.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Nick DiMola on July 01, 2008, 11:18:22 PM
I don't normally like using arguments like this, that make it sound like i'll believe anything a dev/publisher spews out, but Activision has been planning on expanding on the Hero series for awhile now. I remember back when GH2 came out i'd read news on a Drum Hero project and thinking "that could be really cool or really dumb". Part of what i thought would be dumb is they made it sound like they were planning it as a stand alone title.
I dunno, maybe i'm just not fanboy enough to get into the Harmonix vs Neversoft debates or feel that GH is just trying to be RB. I just feel that a game Band game is a natural evolution from a single Guitar game, so why does it matter what title it falls under? If Harmonix had never split from Activision they would of already had GH:WT by now.
GH2 was developed by Harmonix, and the idea of a Drum Hero did come to fruition; through Rock Band. Harmonix just made a better GH IMO and I personally will be sticking by them and their contributions. Like I said before, Activision is doing a better job with the Wii platform due to the completely idiocy of EA/MTV.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on July 01, 2008, 11:47:44 PM
I don't normally like using arguments like this, that make it sound like i'll believe anything a dev/publisher spews out, but Activision has been planning on expanding on the Hero series for awhile now. I remember back when GH2 came out i'd read news on a Drum Hero project and thinking "that could be really cool or really dumb". Part of what i thought would be dumb is they made it sound like they were planning it as a stand alone title.
I dunno, maybe i'm just not fanboy enough to get into the Harmonix vs Neversoft debates or feel that GH is just trying to be RB. I just feel that a game Band game is a natural evolution from a single Guitar game, so why does it matter what title it falls under? If Harmonix had never split from Activision they would of already had GH:WT by now.
Yes I do, there are 4 different guitar hero games in one fiscal year which clearly shows that the franchise is really getting whored out (GH:Aerosmith, on tour, world tour, metallica). Even though adding more instruments in music game is an "evolution" the problem is activision is doing that while clinging on the Guitar Hero name for dear life.
GH:2 DLC doesnt work with GH:3, GH:3 DLC doesnt work with GH:Aerosmith nor it will with GH: World Tour. Rock Band DLC is compatible with RB2 which will help ease people with their RB1 investments.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Spak-Spang on July 02, 2008, 10:31:16 AM
Well, I see some legal issues.
1)Bands complaining because they find out fans have created their music and VOCALS on Guitar Hero and are distributing it online without them getting a penny of royalties.
Other issues have already been discussed.
Golden: Yeah, I understand without vocals it could be lost interest...I just think you can work around it.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: EasyCure on July 02, 2008, 11:20:07 AM
I don't normally like using arguments like this, that make it sound like i'll believe anything a dev/publisher spews out, but Activision has been planning on expanding on the Hero series for awhile now. I remember back when GH2 came out i'd read news on a Drum Hero project and thinking "that could be really cool or really dumb". Part of what i thought would be dumb is they made it sound like they were planning it as a stand alone title.
I dunno, maybe i'm just not fanboy enough to get into the Harmonix vs Neversoft debates or feel that GH is just trying to be RB. I just feel that a game Band game is a natural evolution from a single Guitar game, so why does it matter what title it falls under? If Harmonix had never split from Activision they would of already had GH:WT by now.
Yes I do, there are 4 different guitar hero games in one fiscal year which clearly shows that the franchise is really getting whored out (GH:Aerosmith, on tour, world tour, metallica). Even though adding more instruments in music game is an "evolution" the problem is activision is doing that while clinging on the Guitar Hero name for dear life.
GH:2 DLC doesnt work with GH:3, GH:3 DLC doesnt work with GH:Aerosmith nor it will with GH: World Tour. Rock Band DLC is compatible with RB2 which will help ease people with their RB1 investments.
I like this argument much better. I can see where you're coming from with it. I'm not going to argue your points either because you seem like an avid guitar hero/rock band fan where as i'm not, but i just want to point out that Both Activision and EA that house the dev teams in charge of both series are infamous when it comes to whoring out franchises that they know will sell millions.
The fact that Rock Band 2 is pretty much announced shows that EA wants to make even more money off the series. GH 1 and 2 didnt' have the luxury of DLC to expand the game further than its installed set list. Rock Band came in an age and on platforms where DLC is almost standard so there really is no reason why they should make a sequel when they can just release tons of new songs and possibly even new modes thru patches via downloads.
But this isn't a perfect world and big companies like EA want to keep the money flowing so instead of releasing nothing but DLC and maybe even some reasonably priced and updated (see: better quality) instruments, we'll get a sequel. And yes, some people with money to burn will buy the sequel (full package with instruments) and throw out the old controllers where as everyone else might just buy the new disc.
Point is, don't expect not to see a Rock Band 3 ever.
Oh and i don't count GH:OT as whoring out because its the first portable in the series. GH: Aerosmith i'll agree on though, a "spin-off" on a game with that style is just a cheap cash in.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: BranDonk Kong on July 02, 2008, 03:51:46 PM
There's DLC for Guitar Hero 2, at least on XBox 360, and quite a bit of it, too.
Anyway, Activision is totally whoring out Guitar Hero, just like they did with Tony Hawk, and recently with Call of Duty (using 2 dev teams even, just so they can have a new one every year now). Every company wants to make money, that's the definition of a business. I hope there isn't a Rock Band 3, or another Guitar Hero. Since DLC will officially be on every system, and there's finally a storage solution via SD cards (and possibly USB HDD support very soon), then there's no need to release a new disc, just keep adding songs to download. DLC for Guitar Hero (2 and 3) is absolutely ridiculous, btw. Every song (besides the free ones) cost more than any song on RockBand, and you only get to use one instrument. You can get 3 for $5 on RockBand (compared to 3 for $6.50 on GH2 and GH3) and you get guitar, drums, and vocals - I'm not counting bass in either game.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on July 02, 2008, 04:09:50 PM
I don't normally like using arguments like this, that make it sound like i'll believe anything a dev/publisher spews out, but Activision has been planning on expanding on the Hero series for awhile now. I remember back when GH2 came out i'd read news on a Drum Hero project and thinking "that could be really cool or really dumb". Part of what i thought would be dumb is they made it sound like they were planning it as a stand alone title.
I dunno, maybe i'm just not fanboy enough to get into the Harmonix vs Neversoft debates or feel that GH is just trying to be RB. I just feel that a game Band game is a natural evolution from a single Guitar game, so why does it matter what title it falls under? If Harmonix had never split from Activision they would of already had GH:WT by now.
Yes I do, there are 4 different guitar hero games in one fiscal year which clearly shows that the franchise is really getting whored out (GH:Aerosmith, on tour, world tour, metallica). Even though adding more instruments in music game is an "evolution" the problem is activision is doing that while clinging on the Guitar Hero name for dear life.
GH:2 DLC doesnt work with GH:3, GH:3 DLC doesnt work with GH:Aerosmith nor it will with GH: World Tour. Rock Band DLC is compatible with RB2 which will help ease people with their RB1 investments.
I like this argument much better. I can see where you're coming from with it. I'm not going to argue your points either because you seem like an avid guitar hero/rock band fan where as i'm not, but i just want to point out that Both Activision and EA that house the dev teams in charge of both series are infamous when it comes to whoring out franchises that they know will sell millions.
The fact that Rock Band 2 is pretty much announced shows that EA wants to make even more money off the series. GH 1 and 2 didnt' have the luxury of DLC to expand the game further than its installed set list. Rock Band came in an age and on platforms where DLC is almost standard so there really is no reason why they should make a sequel when they can just release tons of new songs and possibly even new modes thru patches via downloads.
But this isn't a perfect world and big companies like EA want to keep the money flowing so instead of releasing nothing but DLC and maybe even some reasonably priced and updated (see: better quality) instruments, we'll get a sequel. And yes, some people with money to burn will buy the sequel (full package with instruments) and throw out the old controllers where as everyone else might just buy the new disc.
Point is, don't expect not to see a Rock Band 3 ever.
Oh and i don't count GH:OT as whoring out because its the first portable in the series. GH: Aerosmith i'll agree on though, a "spin-off" on a game with that style is just a cheap cash in.
Easy you don't get my point there's 4 different guitar hero games(on tour,aerosmith,world tour,metallica) in one company fiscal year, sure On Tour is a portable game but GH:3 was on the cellphone in some way or fashion and in best buy you can spot a Guitar Hero game on one of those little standalone crappy monochrome hand held machines. The thing that pisses me off about Activision is that they are hellbent on making their peripherals not work with the competition and that's why you see a compatibility matrix that some sites are showing. It really hurts the consumer more than anything because what if a person wants to play both series? They would have to invest in Rock Band instruments and Guitar Hero instruments.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Nick DiMola on July 02, 2008, 04:35:33 PM
I agree, making the instruments not functional interchangeably is probably hurting more than helping. I would be less likely to buy one or the other depending on what I've already invested in.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on July 02, 2008, 04:40:12 PM
I agree, making the instruments not functional interchangeably is probably hurting more than helping. I would be less likely to buy one or the other depending on what I've already invested in.
Yes and if you own Rock Band for any platform you will know how much space the drum kit takes up physically. Since GH:OT and Rock Band drum kits wont work on the competition's game people will be reluctant to pick up the other one due to how much space it takes up in your room or living room or apartment. If one owns both it will look like the person would have to disassemble one drum kit and assemble the other or find space for both.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Kairon on July 02, 2008, 05:57:31 PM
Or maybe people will just buy Ultimate Band from Disney?
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Morari on July 02, 2008, 07:49:11 PM
Acitivsion is not at fault for the lack of controller compatibility when it comes to the Wii. EA decided to use their crappy little USB dongle, a poor holdover from other consoles, while claim to support "open standards". If they truly wanted to support open standards, they'd use the Wiimote like Activision, but pass the savings onto the customer (unlike Activision).
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on July 02, 2008, 09:15:53 PM
Acitivsion is not at fault for the lack of controller compatibility when it comes to the Wii. EA decided to use their crappy little USB dongle, a poor holdover from other consoles, while claim to support "open standards". If they truly wanted to support open standards, they'd use the Wiimote like Activision, but pass the savings onto the customer (unlike Activision).
Nope they are at fault when you boot up guitar hero 3 you see a big black copyright screen that says Activision only allows Guitar Hero branded guitars to be used with this game. Harmonix used USB dongles because they didnt want to force people to slide in a Wii remote in the guitar and they didn't want to deviate much from the existing Rock Band guitars for the Sony and Microsoft platforms. Activision used the Wii remote in the guitars and drums because it's the easiest and cheapest way to make a instrument wireless.
Harmonix is a company that believes in a open universal peripheral support and Activision is the one that wants to keep its peripherals exclusive to its games so you need to get your facts straight. The only reason that 360 Guitar Hero guitars work with Rock Band is because of Microsoft's intervention but Rock Band guitars don't work with GH games on 360. Harmonix has stated the only way Guitar Hero guitars will work with Rock Band for Wii and PS3 is if Activision allows it and Activision flat out denied it.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: NWR_insanolord on July 03, 2008, 01:04:18 AM
If I get a 360 like I'm planning to is the promise of sturdier drums worth waiting a few months and getting the Rock Band 2 bundle and just the Rock Band 1 game or should I just get the Rock Band 1 bundle and pick up just the game of 2 down the line.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on July 03, 2008, 09:18:17 AM
Well here are some details of Rock Band 2.
- over 80 master tracks - more female-fronted bands - tracklist debut at E3 - no music creation mode - improved peripherals
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: EasyCure on July 03, 2008, 11:25:32 AM
I never even brought up the incompatible instruments, and i agree with you on that. It's stupid to divide the fans of this style game up because the instruments won't work on each game. I wouln't have a problem with Rock Band if i could just buy the game and some (slightly) cheaper secondhand peripherals like the Mic and enjoy those parts of the game, then just buy GH:WT and the drumset (which i like the design of better) when that comes out, as opposed to buying both and stockpiling plastic instruments or buying just one over the other.
And again, i wasn't even arguing you about how many GH's are out or coming out in this year. I don't count a portable game as whoring out of any franchise (i'll admit though i didnt know there was a cell phone game..). I even admited GH:Aerosmith is a quick cash in when WT is around the corner.. and i thought GH:Metallica was only rumored...
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Morari on July 03, 2008, 01:00:43 PM
Acitivsion is not at fault for the lack of controller compatibility when it comes to the Wii. EA decided to use their crappy little USB dongle, a poor holdover from other consoles, while claim to support "open standards". If they truly wanted to support open standards, they'd use the Wiimote like Activision, but pass the savings onto the customer (unlike Activision).
Nope they are at fault when you boot up guitar hero 3 you see a big black copyright screen that says Activision only allows Guitar Hero branded guitars to be used with this game. Harmonix used USB dongles because they didnt want to force people to slide in a Wii remote in the guitar and they didn't want to deviate much from the existing Rock Band guitars for the Sony and Microsoft platforms. Activision used the Wii remote in the guitars and drums because it's the easiest and cheapest way to make a instrument wireless.
Harmonix is a company that believes in a open universal peripheral support and Activision is the one that wants to keep its peripherals exclusive to its games so you need to get your facts straight. The only reason that 360 Guitar Hero guitars work with Rock Band is because of Microsoft's intervention but Rock Band guitars don't work with GH games on 360. Harmonix has stated the only way Guitar Hero guitars will work with Rock Band for Wii and PS3 is if Activision allows it and Activision flat out denied it.
We're not talking about the other systems. Nyko's guitar works just fine with Guitar Hero on the Wii, so why can't Harmonix's?. Utlizing the Wiimote in such a way is the obvious route to take, as it's exactly what we were initially promised the remote would be possible of doing--having various shells for different games. The only problem that I have with Activision's decision is that they're still charging $60 for a guitar that rides off of the remote's functionality. Harmonix came to the Wii party late, it was there responsibility to ensure controller compatibility if they were truly concerned with such. Even if not, Activision's way is flat out better.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: BranDonk Kong on July 03, 2008, 02:02:29 PM
No GH: Metallica was mentioned by Activision for an '09 release. I predict it will wipe the floor with GH: Aerosmith's sales (you bet your ass I'll buy it), and probably sell close to GH3's totals.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: vudu on July 03, 2008, 02:11:25 PM
Do we know if it will be guitar-only?
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on July 03, 2008, 02:25:18 PM
Acitivsion is not at fault for the lack of controller compatibility when it comes to the Wii. EA decided to use their crappy little USB dongle, a poor holdover from other consoles, while claim to support "open standards". If they truly wanted to support open standards, they'd use the Wiimote like Activision, but pass the savings onto the customer (unlike Activision).
Nope they are at fault when you boot up guitar hero 3 you see a big black copyright screen that says Activision only allows Guitar Hero branded guitars to be used with this game. Harmonix used USB dongles because they didnt want to force people to slide in a Wii remote in the guitar and they didn't want to deviate much from the existing Rock Band guitars for the Sony and Microsoft platforms. Activision used the Wii remote in the guitars and drums because it's the easiest and cheapest way to make a instrument wireless.
Harmonix is a company that believes in a open universal peripheral support and Activision is the one that wants to keep its peripherals exclusive to its games so you need to get your facts straight. The only reason that 360 Guitar Hero guitars work with Rock Band is because of Microsoft's intervention but Rock Band guitars don't work with GH games on 360. Harmonix has stated the only way Guitar Hero guitars will work with Rock Band for Wii and PS3 is if Activision allows it and Activision flat out denied it.
We're not talking about the other systems. Nyko's guitar works just fine with Guitar Hero on the Wii, so why can't Harmonix's?. Utlizing the Wiimote in such a way is the obvious route to take, as it's exactly what we were initially promised the remote would be possible of doing--having various shells for different games. The only problem that I have with Activision's decision is that they're still charging $60 for a guitar that rides off of the remote's functionality. Harmonix came to the Wii party late, it was there responsibility to ensure controller compatibility if they were truly concerned with such. Even if not, Activision's way is flat out better.
In a way your wrong while it can seem the obvious route to put in a wii remote and make it wireless as the easiest route for EA and Harmonix its even easier to keep the current hardware line and not make a specific line for specific Wii components all they had to do is make a dongle that works with the Wii check. The microphone is just a standard USB microphone check. The drums is exactly the same as the 360 and PS2/PS3 except with a white paint job and the Wii LEDs. I have a feeling that EA/MTV didnt want to have issues with Activision and Red Octane since afterall activision only wants you to use their hardware only for their game.
When the issue with the PS3 happened harmonix wrote a letter to their fans:
"Hi Everyone,
As we have said in the past, Harmonix and MTV Games believe in an open standard philosophy of hardware and game compatibility. We think that there should be interoperability between music instrument controllers across all music games. This is clearly in the best interest of consumers, game developers and console manufacturers and will only help to grow the music game genre as well as inspire innovation and creativity.
Two weeks ago, Harmonix created a software patch for the Sony PLAYSTATION 3 version of Rock Band that allowed for guitar compatibility and support for third party peripherals, including enabling use of Activision's Guitar Hero III controller with Rock Band. The compatibility patch was submitted, approved and had been scheduled for release by Sony on Tuesday, December 4. Unfortunately, Activision objected to the compatibility patch's release. The patch remains with Sony, but we have been told that it will unfortunately not be released due to Activision's continued objection.
As is the case with the Microsoft Xbox360, we believe that Sony PLAYSTATION 3 users should be able to use the peripheral of their choice with Rock Band. We sincerely hope that Activision will reverse its decision and allow release of the compatibility patch and further, that Activision will allow Guitar Hero III to support Rock Band guitar controllers as well. We welcome all third party developers who wish to support our controllers and will provide any required support in order for them to do so.
We believe that when consumers have choice, everyone wins. Harmonix and MTV Games hope that Activision and others will also adopt this philosophy.
Sincerely, The Harmonix Team"
And the rock band wii faqs:
Will Wii's Rock Band be compatible with Wii's Guitar Hero III guitar? Harmonix and MTV Games believe in an open standard philosophy of hardware and game compatibility. We think that there should be interoperability between music instrument controllers across all music games. This is clearly in the best interest of consumers, game developers and console manufacturers and will only help to grow the music game genre as well as inspire innovation and creativity. Third-party developers and publishers are welcome to freely support the Rock Band peripherals in their games. Support for the GHIII guitar peripherals in Rock Band on the Wii was not possible without Activision's permission. Therefore, any questions regarding lack of compatibility with GHIII hardware should be directed to Activision. [In other words: No.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 03, 2008, 02:31:37 PM
ahahaha get FUKT music game makers.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: nickmitch on July 03, 2008, 07:11:36 PM
More ample reasoning to stick with GH.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on July 03, 2008, 09:14:02 PM
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: nickmitch on July 03, 2008, 09:32:33 PM
Can't play Rock Band with GH controllers that I already own. I'm not bashing Rock Band. I've played it, loved it, etc. But when it comes to my money, it's very limited. And since I've already invested in GH, it's just gonna be in my best interest to keep investing in it.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Shift Key on July 04, 2008, 03:58:12 AM
Time to bring out the "marketing translator" for this hilarious PR statement:
This is clearly in the best interest of consumers, game developers and console manufacturers and will only help to grow the music game genre as well as inspire innovation and creativity.
Its the best thing for all involved to buy our instruments. What? Activision are bringing out their own instruments for their next music game? ****, now what are we doing that's innovative? Can someone else come to this fight? We're tired of fighting Activison, so come along and make us look good by sucking hard!
Two weeks ago, Harmonix created a software patch for the Sony PLAYSTATION 3 version of Rock Band that allowed for guitar compatibility and support for third party peripherals, including enabling use of Activision's Guitar Hero III controller with Rock Band.
We want you to be able to play with your GH guitar. Hopefully that makes it easier for us to convince you to buy the other three instruments you need.
The compatibility patch was submitted, approved and had been scheduled for release by Sony on Tuesday, December 4. Unfortunately, Activision objected to the compatibility patch's release. The patch remains with Sony, but we have been told that it will unfortunately not be released due to Activision's continued objection.
Activision don't want their instruments to work with our game. What jerks. You should throw your GH controls in the bin and then buy the set of Rock Band instruments. That would be awesome for all involved, particularly us.
As is the case with the Microsoft Xbox360, we believe that Sony PLAYSTATION 3 users should be able to use the peripheral of their choice with Rock Band.
Buy our instruments. It'll be totally interoperable, trust us.
We sincerely hope that Activision will reverse its decision and allow release of the compatibility patch and further, that Activision will allow Guitar Hero III to support Rock Band guitar controllers as well.
We wrote them a letter telling them how angry we are at this news. We're still waiting for a reply on that.
We believe that when consumers have choice, everyone wins. Harmonix and MTV Games hope that Activision and others will also adopt this philosophy.
We don't want Activision to win. **** them. Buy our stuff.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: shammack on July 04, 2008, 08:33:42 AM
I don't understand why so many people seem to think that Harmonix can do no wrong. Yes, Guitar Hero II was a good game, but what have they done for us lately? A Wii port of the already crappy PS2 port of Rock Band (where you have to buy new guitars even though you can use Guitar Hero guitars on the PS2 (no patch necessary there!)), and announced Rock Band 2 which doesn't seem to have any reason to exist instead of just offering more DLC for Rock Band 1. Say what you will about Activision's corporate policies or whatever, but at least GHWT has some new features to justify its existence, and will do all the things that Harmonix claims are impossible to do on the Wii (by which they mean they're lazy and would rather just shove the PS2 port out the door and cash in as quickly as possible). I'm tired of Harmonix being treated like saints when they're repeatedly screwing us over.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: vudu on July 04, 2008, 10:10:42 AM
Weren't you paying attention? Harmonix is made up of musicians who love music. Neversoft is made up of corporate shills who hate music but are willing to spend every waking minute of their life working diligently on a music game in order to make a quick buck.
Blah blah blah, note charts, blah blah blah.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Spak-Spang on July 04, 2008, 10:36:24 AM
You see this is what is frustrating about this debate...that shouldn't even be a debate.
Harmonix created the music game with toy instrument genre, so they deserve a lot of respect.
But you know what, Guitar Hero 2 and Guitar Hero 3 to me are both great and fine games. Neversoft got handed the task of replacing Harmonix...here is something, Neversoft probably requested the game, or at least hand picked the team of designers that loved music games and music to head its Guitar Hero 3 team.
Yes, Harmonix decided to expand the series with adding new instruments with Rock Band, and it was a huge success, which is why Guitar Hero 4 is following suit. But that doesn't mean GH4 isn't going to be good...or that the designers can't love music and desire to create the best music game possible.
To illustrate this, GH4 is actually doing several things to make their game better than Rock Band. Character Creator, Music Creator, tons of songs already on the disc, broadening the music types for GH4 instead of just metal, Better Drum set that is more like a real drum set.
It seems to me Neversoft is using what Harmonix learned and pushing forward to better the product, and Rock Band 2 is just a me too product as a reaction to GH4. Sturdier Instruments? They could have just released those and be done with it. Does this mean I think Harmonix is coping out, no.
What I think is going on is Activision sees Guitar Hero as a huge seller and wanted to pump out more games via Aerosmith to make more money...but they hadn't built the infrastructure for sharing downloaded content and such. However, I believe that with Guitar Hero 4 that will be built and in place.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: shammack on July 04, 2008, 10:41:01 AM
Harmonix ripped off the idea for the music game with toy instrument genre from the Japanese
Fixed
I agree on most other points though.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on July 04, 2008, 12:00:41 PM
Here are a bunch of Rumored Songs for Rock Band 2.
1) tangled up in blue (bob dylan) 2) bad to the bone (george thorogood) 3) we've got the beat (go-gos) 4) bad reputation (joan jett) 5) pinball wizard (the who) 6) dammit (blink 182) 7) thats what you get (paramore) 8) the trees (rush) 9) ace of spades (motorhead) 10) chop suey (system of a down) 11) testify (rage against the machine) 12) spirit in the sky (norman greenbaum) 13) ramblin' man (allman brothers) 14) rebel girl (bikini kill) 15) eye of the tiger (survivor) 16) panic attack (dreamtheater) 17) everlong (foo fighters) 18) one step closer (linkin park) 19) lump (presidents of the USA) 20) come out and play (offspring) 21) drain you (nirvana) 22) carry on my wayward son (kansas) 23) peace sells (megadeath) 24) souls of black (testament) 25) livin on a prayer (bon jovi) 26) round and round (ratt) 27) new kid in school (the donnas) 28) alright now (free) 29) today (smashing pumpkins) 30) man in the box (alice in chains) 31) any way you want it (journey) 32) holiday in cambodia (dead kennedys) 33) give it away (red hot chili peppers) 34) white wedding (billy idol) 35) hello there (cheap trick) 36) cool for cats (squeeze) 37) psycho killer (talking heads) 38) ? (devo) 39) one way or another (blondie) 40) de-luxe (lush) 41) push it (static-x) 42) pump it up (elvis costello) 43) master exploder (tenacious d) 44) bandages (hot hot heat) 45) PDA (interpol) 46) my own worst enemy (lit) 47) float on (modest mouse) 48) aqualung (jethro tull) 49) spoonman (soundgarden) 50) bodhisatva (steely dan) 51) suffer (bad religion) 52) i was wrong (social distortion) 53) american woman (the guess who) 56) you oughta know (alanis morrissette) 57) mountain song (jane's addiction) 58) stop! (against me) 59) hungry like the wolf (duran duran) 60) alabama getaway (grateful dead)
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: vudu on July 04, 2008, 12:43:13 PM
Wow. That's actually a pretty good set list.
Activision and EA really need to get their **** together and let me play both games with the same instruments.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Morari on July 04, 2008, 02:49:52 PM
Still too much new(er) music in that rumored list...
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: decoyman on July 04, 2008, 03:52:37 PM
Weren't you paying attention? Harmonix is made up of musicians who love music. Neversoft is made up of corporate shills who hate music but are willing to spend every waking minute of their life working diligently on a music game in order to make a quick buck.
See, when it comes to Wii, though, to me it seems the other way around. Harmonix took the easiest, laziest way to cash in on the Wii market with Rockband. It's a PS2 port, features none of the extras which make the PS3/360 versions so compelling (DLC, online play, tour mode, create a character), costs just as much as the other, fuller-featured versions and was released last of all, months late...
Neversoft is really pushing the boundaries on the music genre, and GH:WT will have everything RB2 will have and more (music creator ftw!). THIS is a prime example of why competition is good, you guys.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: vudu on July 04, 2008, 03:57:47 PM
Your sarcasm detector needs a tune up.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: bosshogx on July 04, 2008, 11:43:23 PM
Neversoft is really pushing the boundaries on the music genre, and GH:WT will have everything RB2 will have and more (music creator ftw!). THIS is a prime example of why competition is good, you guys.
I agree that competition is good, but I'm increasingly worried about exclusivity inside of exclusivity. It's bad enough that we segment the gaming world into 3 groups (ps3, 360, and wii), but then to cut them up further (RB/GH) just makes it all the worse.
I felt sick to my stomach when I read that RB:Aerosmith was being released and that all Aerosmith songs were going exclusive to GH. I only own RB, so how am I going to play my Aerosmith songs? Am I going to have to worry about Activision and Harmonix dropping sick amounts of money on to bands for exclusivity rights from now on?
How come Activision isn't letting you carry over DLC from prior GH games into GH:WT? Is it because they don't want to add parts for the other instruments? If so, that's just plain weak. They should include the option to play the song with guitars only or download the "full band" version for like a dollar more or something. Sure people would complain, but at least the option would be there.
Finally, I'm not a big fan of the music creator because it lacks vocals. I'm usual the vocals guy and might as well just fire up the DS while my buddies enjoy jamming out to our latest creation. Without vocals there isn't a lot of point in creating a song at all, well, except for old school 8 bit Nintendo music. :) I suppose we will have vocal support in next years edition.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on July 05, 2008, 02:49:10 PM
I also wonder how the music creator is going to turn out. I think that it will be a feature that people use for like a few days and just never look back at it. And if people want to create music a lot of people imported band brothers or will import band brothers DX. Or on the PC you can use stuff like frets on fire or fruity loops. And on the Mac you have garage band.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: decoyman on July 07, 2008, 01:34:11 AM
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Installation successful! Very good then, carry on.
Flames, I'm not going to discount the music creator until I know more about it... hopefully more details will come out at E3...
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: EasyCure on July 07, 2008, 04:00:51 PM
Finally, I'm not a big fan of the music creator because it lacks vocals. I'm usual the vocals guy and might as well just fire up the DS while my buddies enjoy jamming out to our latest creation. Without vocals there isn't a lot of point in creating a song at all, well, except for old school 8 bit Nintendo music. :) I suppose we will have vocal support in next years edition.
Well some people like creating music and not songs. I've recorded my own guitar stuff for years in tons of different formats (from hitting Record on a tape deck to a few simple programs on a PC) and i never once had the desire to record vocals. When i was in a band and had someone to do the singing it was different, but i was just satisfied playing my instruments. Let the guitar do the singing.
as for that set list, it seams decent to me if real. I'm just mad they picked such a lousy song by Social Distortion. Don't get me wrong, i love the song but there are so many better ones to rock out to with friends. "I Was Wrong" is a little too simple to play. They should throw "1945" into the mix, or something similar.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: vudu on July 07, 2008, 04:54:47 PM
Some had better damn well recreate every single instrumental track from The Fragile (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fragile) within the first week of this game's release or there will be Hell to pay.
(In all honesty, it's entirely possible Trent Reznor will be the one to do it.)
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Morari on July 07, 2008, 04:58:35 PM
Well some people like creating music and not songs. I've recorded my own guitar stuff for years in tons of different formats (from hitting Record on a tape deck to a few simple programs on a PC) and i never once had the desire to record vocals. When i was in a band and had someone to do the singing it was different, but i was just satisfied playing my instruments. Let the guitar do the singing.
It's just my opinion, but I'd much rather concentrate on writing (but not necessarily singing) lyrics. That said, I already do that with real music outside of some game's "creator". It's just a bummer that they're limiting what could be a killer feature for many, with no real good reason.
Some had better damn well recreate every single instrumental track from The Fragile (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fragile) within the first week of this game's release or there will be Hell to pay.
(In all honesty, it's entirely Trent Reznor will be the one to do it.)[/url]
Well, we'll be sure to see legal recreations of everything from Ghosts, at least. ;)
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on July 09, 2008, 11:13:54 AM
Here we go:
Quote from: Kotaku.com
Start A Band, Rock The World!
Developed by Harmonix, the world’s premier music videogame company, and published by MTV Games, Rock Band™ 2 is the next evolution of the groundbreaking music platform that forever changed the face of music videogames. Rock Band 2 builds upon the original, challenging players to put together a band and tour for fame and fortune while learning to master lead/bass guitar, drums and vocals, and raises the bar to include an entirely new level of depth, connectivity, authenticity and exhilarating features.
Rock Band 2 will feature more than 80 tracks on disc – but it doesn’t stop there. Players will have access to all DLC tracks, packs and albums released to date as well as future DLC releases; that’s more than 200 song choices and counting. The music inRock Band 2 features all master recordings and spans all genres of rock from punk, metal and alternative to classic and southern rock.
Rock Band 2 will be released on Xbox 360™ videogame and entertainment system from Microsoft this September and will have an exclusive launch window in North America. Rock Band 2 will be available for the PLAYSTATION® 3 and PlayStation® 2 computer entertainment systems and Nintendo Wii™ system later this year.
Key Features Rock the World! Rock Band 2 offers new and dynamic online modes that will connect the entire Rock Band community in more ways than ever before, both locally and globally.
Rock in Style! Rock Band 2 introduces a new variety of instrument choices all with new and improved drum and guitar peripherals, enhanced functionality and innovative new designs. All Rock Band 2 instruments are fully compatible with the original Rock Band. Conversely, all Rock Band peripherals will be fully compatible with Rock Band 2.
Unrivaled Song Library! Rock Band 2 features the biggest and most diverse soundtrack ever featuring some of rock’s most prolific acts, comprised entirely of master recordings.
Complete the Look! Rock Band 2 delivers new clothing, accessories, tattoos, hairstyles, instruments and more to keep your unique rock avatar playing the full rock part.
Battle it Out! Go head to head competing against other bands with Battle of the Bands contests that will be generated by Harmonix on a regular basis.
Stay on Top! Stay the undisputed leader board champion with real time alerts updating you when another rocker or band has surpassed your score!
Take on Tour Challenges! Play through mini-campaigns focused on a specific instrument, your favorite artist, your preferred genre, or a particular album.
Customizable Set Lists! Create your own set lists in Quickplay mode to keep the music rolling and your band rocking!
Rock ‘n’ Roll Never Dies! Rock Band 2 offers backwards compatibility with Rock Band downloadable content- all previously purchased tracks will immediately load into your Rock Band 2 play list!
Game Modes Quickplay Now easier than ever to get in and jam without hassle. - New prefab characters - Your customized characters can now play on any instrument - Make your own set lists - Organize song lists by a variety of categories (alphabetical, genre, era, etc.)
World Tour Solo Tour and Band World Tour join forces to create the ultimate band touring experience! - World Tour is now online - No more band leaders! If you need to fire your guitarist but keep the band going, fire away! - Switch up instruments throughout world tour - All new collection of opportunity gigs, challenges, cities, venues, and hirable staff
Tour Challenges Take your band on tour in a whole new way with specific music challenges. - Focused mini-campaigns featuring the best songs by instrument, decade, genre or artist - Automatically generated DLC challenges - Album specific challenges
Battle of the Bands Put your band to the ultimate test by competing against other bands, both on your friends list and around the world! - Dynamic content with regular new contests designed by Harmonix - Matches up your score against overall competition and friends’ bands - with REAL TIME feedback - Get updates on new battles from your Band Profile, as well as notifications when your score has been topped!
Drum Trainer A true teaching tool that gives players a step-by-step lesson through the basic beat and fill vocabulary any real world drummer would know.
Music Major record labels and leading music publishers have signed on to provide unrivaled access to master recordings and legendary rock artists with hits from the 60’s, 70’s, 80’s, 90’s and 2000’s. The Rock Band 2 disc will feature more than 80 rock hits—all master recordings! Plus, Rock Band 2 owners will have access to the growing Rock Band DLC catalog of more than 200 tracks. Below are just some of the amazing tracks and artists you will get on disc with Rock Band 2.
2000s Dream Theater “Panic Attack “ System of a Down “Chop Suey” 1990s Foo Fighters “Everlong” The Muffs “Kids in America” Red Hot Chili Peppers “Give it Away” 1980s Motörhead “Ace of Spades” 1970s Cheap Trick “Hello There” Elvis Costello “Pump it Up” Journey “Anyway You Want It” 1960s The Who “Pinball Wizard”
Key Players • Developed by Harmonix – the world’s premier music videogame company– and published by MTV Games. • Distributed and Co-Marketed by Electronic Arts, the world’s leading interactive entertainment software company. • Master Recordings provided by EMI Music, Hollywood Records, Sony BMG Music Entertainment, Universal Music Group’s Universal Music Enterprises and Warner Music Group’s Rhino Entertainment. • Rocked out even harder by YOU and millions of drummers, guitarists and vocalists around the world. Groupies not included!
Product Specifications Publisher: MTV Games Developer: Harmonix Distributor: Electronic Arts Category: Music/Rhythm Game Ship Date: September 2008 (Xbox 360) 2008 (PS3, PS2 and Wii)
The new and improved drums and guitar peripherals will be compatible with the original Rock Band and original instruments will work with Rock Band 2. The new guitar will have a sturdier strum bar, quieter buttons and be wireless. The new drum kit will include a metal reinforced pedal, quieter pads, velocity sensors and... be wireless.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Nick DiMola on July 09, 2008, 12:52:33 PM
Quote
Dream Theater "Panic Attack" System of a Down "Chop Suey!" The Who "Pinball Wizard"
WIN
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Morari on July 09, 2008, 08:41:41 PM
In the Name of God is a much better Dream Theater song...
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on July 11, 2008, 01:03:04 PM
I'm surprised they didn't go with "Pull Me Under." I think that's their only radio hit, but I'm just glad to see Dream Theater at all.
There's got to be a better Journey song than "Any Way You Want It." I admit it's got a nice solo that will be good for the game, but I'm just so tired of hearing that song. Even "Don't Stop Believin'" is less tired.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: EasyCure on July 11, 2008, 01:27:54 PM
would you rather them put in something like "Faithfully" instead?
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on July 11, 2008, 04:18:37 PM
Basically, I'm opposed to including songs that have been used extensively in commercials. I keep coming back to "Wheel in the Sky" when I try to think of something else (and "Lovin', Touchin', Squeezin'" for some reason).
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Maverick on July 11, 2008, 04:50:17 PM
Seperate Ways you guys. Seperate fucking Ways (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQbZRMLKozk).
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on July 11, 2008, 05:03:05 PM
Thank you! I knew I was forgetting something big. That would be perfect.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: NWR_insanolord on July 11, 2008, 10:12:09 PM
I'm surprised they didn't go with "Pull Me Under." I think that's their only radio hit, but I'm just glad to see Dream Theater at all.
There's got to be a better Journey song than "Any Way You Want It." I admit it's got a nice solo that will be good for the game, but I'm just so tired of hearing that song. Even "Don't Stop Believin'" is less tired.
I love that "Any Way You Want It" is in the game, I really love that song because of the loophole in my taste in music that makes it possible for me take how unintentionally funny the song is into the equation of how much I like it.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: EasyCure on July 13, 2008, 04:11:19 PM
I'm surprised they didn't go with "Pull Me Under." I think that's their only radio hit, but I'm just glad to see Dream Theater at all.
There's got to be a better Journey song than "Any Way You Want It." I admit it's got a nice solo that will be good for the game, but I'm just so tired of hearing that song. Even "Don't Stop Believin'" is less tired.
I love that "Any Way You Want It" is in the game, I really love that song because of the loophole in my taste in music that makes it possible for me take how unintentionally funny the song is into the equation of how much I like it.
thats how i feel about most music from that era. i have a ton of stuff i dont think i ever listened to all the way thru w/o a smile on my face
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on July 14, 2008, 03:23:02 PM
All I have to say is if Guitar Hero has Rolling Stones I will NOT be buying Rock Band 2.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: bosshogx on July 14, 2008, 04:28:52 PM
I can transfer all of my DLC AND Rock Band 1 music (for under $5)?!
Oh...and AC/DC?! I mean, AC friggin' DC! The week that their albums become available, the store will probably crash from the traffic. I'm calling it now, AC/DC album in November just to screw with our holiday budgets. Guaranteed.
It's almost as though the game creators actually care about the fans for once. Rock Band 2 has now been confirmed as a Day 1 purchase. Bravo Harmonix, bravo!
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: vudu on July 14, 2008, 04:39:25 PM
Am I the only one here who doesn't like AC/DC?
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: bosshogx on July 14, 2008, 05:51:52 PM
i dont dislike them but i'm not a huge fan. they have a few songs i like but nothing that would type my playlists
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Morari on July 14, 2008, 07:39:00 PM
Hayseed Dixie would be better...
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: decoyman on July 16, 2008, 10:49:00 AM
Maybe people won't have to choose between Rockband and GH4 after all...! (http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2008/07/16/guitar-hero-world-compatible-with-rock-band/)
Ok, so it only says RB instruments will be usable in GH4... AND as of right now, it's only confirmed for the 360 version. But the way the rep talked, it sounded like they were aiming at cross-compatibility for all platforms.
Cross your fingers...
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: NWR_Neal on July 16, 2008, 03:34:20 PM
Rock Band 2 hitting Wii on November 18th apparently.
Also, The game hits 360 on 9/14, The bundle hits 360 and PS3 on 10/19. PS2 and Wii bundles go out on 11/18.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: blackfootsteps on July 16, 2008, 07:22:27 PM
Heh we don't even have a release date for RB1 yet, but this track list is pretty cool. Silversun pickups is a cool inclusion.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on July 16, 2008, 11:43:30 PM
Maybe people won't have to choose between Rockband and GH4 after all...! (http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2008/07/16/guitar-hero-world-compatible-with-rock-band/)
Ok, so it only says RB instruments will be usable in GH4... AND as of right now, it's only confirmed for the 360 version. But the way the rep talked, it sounded like they were aiming at cross-compatibility for all platforms.
Crossing your fingers...
Cross compatibility would be wonderful!
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: BranDonk Kong on July 17, 2008, 06:40:38 PM
Hopefully the GH4 drums will work in RockBand 2, and RockBand, because the extra pad is awesome, and makes for much better/more realistic gameplay...this way I have no excuse not to buy them.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: NWR_insanolord on July 18, 2008, 06:11:07 AM
Rock Band instruments work in GH4, GH4 instruments work in Rock Band, but since there's no confirmation of any compatibility between Rock Band 2 and GH4 I have to wait and see. Since Rock Band instruments work in both and both new sets work in Rock Band logically it sounds like any of the three sets should work in any of the three games but nothing is confirmed. I don't have any of them and I may buy all 3 of them but I only want one set of instruments so I have to wait and see.
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Post by: NWR_Lindy on July 24, 2008, 09:18:48 PM
Yes and if you own Rock Band for any platform you will know how much space the drum kit takes up physically. Since GH:OT and Rock Band drum kits wont work on the competition's game people will be reluctant to pick up the other one due to how much space it takes up in your room or living room or apartment. If one owns both it will look like the person would have to disassemble one drum kit and assemble the other or find space for both.
This is exactly where I'm coming from. I'm interested in GH4, but not interested enough to fill my living space with even more equipment. Combine that fact with the ability to transfer songs from Rock Band 1 to Rock Band 2, and Rock Band 2 is a no-brainer purchase for me.
As for the exclusivity deal with Microsoft, I think Harmonix/EA knows where their bread is buttered. GH3 has a death-grip on the Wii right now, so it makes sense for them to maybe tackle that market later and capitalize on their core audience - 360 gamers - first and foremost. What I'm saying is that even if they came out on Wii on the same day, GH3 would sell more copies.
However, I wonder about the more casual market on Wii. We know that 360/PS3 gamers will be willing to pony up more cash for GH4, but will budget-minded Wii owners be willing to buy yet another version of Guitar Hero when GH3 is probably doing them just fine?
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: NWR_insanolord on July 24, 2008, 10:02:10 PM
This is exactly where I'm coming from. I'm interested in GH4, but not interested enough to fill my living space with even more equipment. Combine that fact with the ability to transfer songs from Rock Band 1 to Rock Band 2, and Rock Band 2 is a no-brainer purchase for me.
Did you not read a few posts above yours with a link confirming that Rock Band instruments work in GH4? You could buy just the game of GH4 and use the instruments you already have.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: NWR_Lindy on July 24, 2008, 10:59:44 PM
Did you not read a few posts above yours with a link confirming that Rock Band instruments work in GH4? You could buy just the game of GH4 and use the instruments you already have.
Nah, I skipped a bunch of chit-chat in this thread. I forgot about that, but still, I now that the GH4 controllers will have some whiz-bang features that I won't be able to take advantage of with the normal RB controllers.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: vudu on July 25, 2008, 02:16:31 PM
As for the exclusivity deal with Microsoft, I think Harmonix/EA knows where their bread is buttered. GH3 has a death-grip on the Wii right now, so it makes sense for them to maybe tackle that market later and capitalize on their core audience - 360 gamers - first and foremost. What I'm saying is that even if they came out on Wii on the same day, GH3 would sell more copies.
That makes no sense at all. The reason GH3 has a "death-grip" on the Wii system is because EA took seven months to port Rock Band to the system. (The fact that it was missing features didn't help either.) If Harmonix and EA repeat the same mistake this year it will be their own damn fault when GH4 outsells RB2 four-to-one on the Wii system.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: DAaaMan64 on July 25, 2008, 02:21:04 PM
As for the exclusivity deal with Microsoft, I think Harmonix/EA knows where their bread is buttered. GH3 has a death-grip on the Wii right now, so it makes sense for them to maybe tackle that market later and capitalize on their core audience - 360 gamers - first and foremost. What I'm saying is that even if they came out on Wii on the same day, GH3 would sell more copies.
That makes no sense at all. The reason GH3 has a "death-grip" on the Wii system is because EA took seven months to port Rock Band to the system. (The fact that it was missing features didn't help either.) If Harmonix and EA repeat the same mistake this year it will be their own damn fault when GH4 outsells RB2 four-to-one on the Wii system.
I hope it does. I can't wait to watch :)
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: NWR_Lindy on July 27, 2008, 10:36:20 PM
Hey, maybe Microsoft paid them a grip of cash to be exclusive for a little while. After all, you can't tell me that the Wii version of Rock Band takes longer to develop than the 360 version.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Caliban on July 27, 2008, 11:27:59 PM
... you can't tell me that the Wii version of Rock Band takes longer to develop than the 360 version.
It takes that much longer to strip features for the Wii version.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: NWR_insanolord on July 27, 2008, 11:33:16 PM
Yeah, the extra time between the 360 and Wii releases is so they can cut out 14 songs and remove the red fret button from the guitar controller.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Ian Sane on July 29, 2008, 02:20:35 PM
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Hey, maybe Microsoft paid them a grip of cash to be exclusive for a little while. After all, you can't tell me that the Wii version of Rock Band takes longer to develop than the 360 version.
Except that Rock Band was never a 360 exclusive and was released on the PS3 at the same time as the 360. So are you suggesting MS paid a moneyhat specifically to block only the Wii release?
Guitar Hero: World Tour is getting my money almost entirely because I already have Guitar Hero 3 and might as well get extra instruments I KNOW will be compatible. My existing guitar controller can be the bass for World Tour. Guitar Hero got my initial purchase entirely because Rock Band screwed up. In reality the idea of a whole band is cooler to me and had they released a non-gimped Wii Rock Band around the same time as the other versions I would have bought it instead. Probably a lot of Wii owners are in the same boat as me.
On the flip side I imagine GH: World Tour will be incredibly successful on the Wii but only moderately so on the other consoles. Few people are going to want to own two complete sets of instruments. On the Wii all those Guitar Hero people like myself will be upgrading from one guitar to a full band for the first time. However that isn't the case on the other consoles since people did that already last year with Rock Band. Frankly I think the cost of keeping up with these games is too high for most people and it's very naive of both companies to think they can continue to release these expensive bundles and have them constantly sell.
Guitar Hero 1 was the first one. Guitar Hero 2 was the first one on the Xbox 360. Guitar Hero 3 was the first one on the PS3 and Wii. Rock Band was the first one to have the extra instruments.
So everyone has had a chance to get all the appropriate controllers regardless of what console they own, with the exception of Wii owners who specifically choose not to buy Rock Band. But after this what's the point? When Rock Band came out I saw the Special Edition everywhere in big piles. Well if they're smart they better hold back on the Rock Band 2 Special Edition because there is no real reason for most people to buy that. Newcombers are the only ones that need it, everyone else will probably just get the standalone disc version. They better be smart enough to realize that the demand for the hardware is not so high anymore.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: BranDonk Kong on July 29, 2008, 02:28:09 PM
Newcombers?
Anyway, for a $170 game, Rock Band sold like Gangbusters.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: EasyCure on July 29, 2008, 04:42:50 PM
I think the 360 version will have a limited edition drum set that will be an actual electronic drumset. i wonder how much that'll cost...
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on July 29, 2008, 06:13:25 PM
I think the 360 version will have a limited edition drum set that will be an actual electronic drumset. i wonder how much that'll cost...
I think the limited edition drum set with some extra pads for cymbals will be made for every system. The price was 300 dollars if I remember correctly.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: EasyCure on July 30, 2008, 10:29:49 AM
i must of read the article wrong, i thought it was part of soem exclusivity deal. If it is coming to all systems i'd actually consider it, because an elec. drum kit takes up less space than a real drum kit and i've always wanted to own one but don't have enough apartment space.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Ian Sane on July 30, 2008, 12:08:07 PM
It actually comes with a real electric drum kit? Seriously? F*ck I'd buy that for $300 for the Xbox 360 even though I don't own the system just for the kit.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: EasyCure on July 30, 2008, 01:48:51 PM
It actually comes with a real electric drum kit? Seriously? F*ck I'd buy that for $300 for the Xbox 360 even though I don't own the system just for the kit.
I have to re-read the article i saw it in. From my understanding its a drum kit that comes with extra cymbals/pads and can work with the Rock Band (2) game, but might need a (assumingly sold seperate???) peripheral to convert it to a standalone elec-drum kit.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: BranDonk Kong on August 06, 2008, 12:18:29 AM
So I finally got 100% on drums on expert (Troublemaker from Weezer, it's fucking easy)...10 acheivement points. It was a 940 note streak for God's sake. 10 fucking points. BTW...this should be the official "real*" Rock Band thread too.
*real = for systems that are not a Wii.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Spinnzilla on August 06, 2008, 11:13:39 AM
I was considering getting Rock Band for a long, long time, but GHWT just completely blew away my expectations. Hell, it's got effing "Beat It" on the track list, how cool is that?
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: EasyCure on August 06, 2008, 12:23:19 PM
but does it come with children to molest!?!?!? allegedly
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: decoyman on August 10, 2008, 04:33:42 PM
Here's something I've been wondering... do you think they'll offer the back catalog of DLC for Wii owners?
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Post by: NWR_insanolord on August 10, 2008, 04:39:21 PM
I would think so, it seems like a relatively small amount of work that could make them a lot of money. If I don't end up getting a 360 like I'm currently planning I'd buy this for the Wii if it had the DLC back catalog, but I'd wait and get it when I do get a 360 if it doesn't.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: nickmitch on August 10, 2008, 08:04:35 PM
I don't see why the wouldn't include the backlog. If it's not available at launch, then it should be up before long.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on August 13, 2008, 09:29:15 PM
The game will still launch as a timed Xbox exclusive, but only as a game disc with instruments available seperately. The cheaper bundle will not turn up until mid October, coinciding with the Playstation 3, PS2 and Wii version launch.
The Special Edition bundle will sell for $199, whereas eager Xbox gamers will have to cough up and extra $50 for the privilige of that 'exclusive'.
You know, maybe this isn't a deliberate attempt to gouge money from a segment of the Rock Band fanbase. Maybe Harmonix are just trying to show Xbox gamers what it feels like to buy a more expensive Import version of a game? Bah, either way.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: vudu on August 14, 2008, 02:03:12 PM
The game will still launch as a timed Xbox exclusive, but only as a game disc with instruments available seperately. The cheaper bundle will not turn up until mid October, coinciding with the Playstation 3, PS2 and Wii version launch.
The Wii version's not coming until mid-November, if memory serves.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: BeautifulShy on August 16, 2008, 01:11:52 AM
I just thought this was funny (http://Http://gonintendo.com/?p=52810)
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on August 28, 2008, 11:50:04 AM
Rock Band developer Harmonix and Entertainment Weekly have revealed the next six full-length albums that will arrive as downloadable content for the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 versions of the multi-instrument music game:
* Foo Fighters - The Colour and the Shape * Red Hot Chili Peppers - Blood Sugar Sex Magik * Jane's Addiction - Nothing's Shocking * Megadeth - Peace Sells... But Who's Buying * Stevie Ray Vaughan - Texas Flood * No Doubt - The Best of... Rock Band Edition
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: NWR_Lindy on September 13, 2008, 06:55:26 PM
The drum kit you guys are talking about is the Ion Drum Rocker kit. It's not to be confused with the pack-in Rock Band 2 drums, it's something totally different and optional. They're a real electronic drum kit that can be used as real drums when combined with a drum brain. So basically you buy this package:
Ion Drum Rocker Drum Kit ($300) http://www.amazon.com/ION-Drum-Rocker-Premium-Xbox-360/dp/B001E2OW1Q/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1221346256&sr=8-1
Alesis DM5 Drum Brain (hooks up to your PC) ($350) http://www.amazon.com/Alesis-DM5-18-bit-Drum-Module/dp/B000C1RRE4/ref=wl_it_dp?ie=UTF8&coliid=I2K6WO6UI7THOM&colid=3GZHHSD9VROPV
For $650 you have a drum set that can be used as real drums and Rock Band drums. Cool, but very expensive.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: EasyCure on September 14, 2008, 02:06:46 PM
The drum kit you guys are talking about is the Ion Drum Rocker kit. It's not to be confused with the pack-in Rock Band 2 drums, it's something totally different and optional. They're a real electronic drum kit that can be used as real drums when combined with a drum brain. So basically you buy this package:
Ion Drum Rocker Drum Kit ($300) http://www.amazon.com/ION-Drum-Rocker-Premium-Xbox-360/dp/B001E2OW1Q/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1221346256&sr=8-1
Alesis DM5 Drum Brain (hooks up to your PC) ($350) http://www.amazon.com/Alesis-DM5-18-bit-Drum-Module/dp/B000C1RRE4/ref=wl_it_dp?ie=UTF8&coliid=I2K6WO6UI7THOM&colid=3GZHHSD9VROPV
For $650 you have a drum set that can be used as real drums and Rock Band drums. Cool, but very expensive.
but still cheaper than a normal elec. drum kit. Thanks for the pricing on the drum brain, cuz i was considering buying this if could get a 'real' set out of the deal, but its still pretty expensive. I'd rather dish out that $600+ on a traditional set, or if i really wanted to go the electronic route (probably for limited space purposes) i'd rather just dish out out the $1000+
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Schadenfreude on September 14, 2008, 06:14:17 PM
I'll be picking up my copy tomorrow if anyone wants to play.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: BranDonk Kong on September 15, 2008, 04:13:02 PM
Got it 5 days ago...it fucking rules. Brandogg360 on XBL.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: that Baby guy on September 16, 2008, 03:05:19 AM
For the record, as far as the Rock Band vs. Guitar Hero argument, I prefer Guitar Hero. There are very few songs on Rock Band I feel compelled to play, and nothing in that track pack looked interesting to my tastes.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 16, 2008, 05:55:46 AM
For the record, as far as the Rock Band vs. Guitar Hero argument, I prefer Guitar Hero. There are very few songs on Rock Band I feel compelled to play, and nothing in that track pack looked interesting to my tastes.
I'm the exact opposite, the Rock Band games have a lot more songs that I'm interested in than the Guitar Heroes.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: BranDonk Kong on September 16, 2008, 11:03:21 PM
How is that even possible since there's over 350 songs available for Rock Band 2?
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: vudu on September 17, 2008, 05:10:58 PM
One word: Tool
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Schadenfreude on September 17, 2008, 06:41:03 PM
It's too bad World Tour is going to have around 8 songs Rock Band 2 already has.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Spinnzilla on September 17, 2008, 07:16:49 PM
It's too bad World Tour is going to have around 8 songs Rock Band 2 already has.
GHWT has promised DLC for wii, won me over there.
Plus, it has Purple Haze and much more variety than Rock Band 2. Also, Slacker's Revenge sucks. I hate you Axl Rose.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Schadenfreude on September 17, 2008, 10:08:56 PM
I don't see how it has much more variety. The variety is MUCH better then Guitar Hero 3, which was pretty one side (understandably so, but I didn't care for it).
I hope Activision handles DLC a lot better then they have so far.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: that Baby guy on September 17, 2008, 10:39:14 PM
It's too bad World Tour is going to have around 8 songs Rock Band 2 already has.
GHWT has promised DLC for wii, won me over there.
Plus, it has Purple Haze and much more variety than Rock Band 2. Also, Slacker's Revenge sucks. I hate you Axl Rose.
DLC has won me over, too. Now I have to figure out what I need to do with my Rock Band drumset. :(
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: EasyCure on September 18, 2008, 10:37:23 AM
eat off of it?
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Schadenfreude on September 19, 2008, 06:00:08 PM
I mad the Rock Band 1 drumset won't work with Guitar Hero: World Tour. >:( I don't want to buy another drumset!
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Tr17 on September 19, 2008, 06:15:18 PM
After getting RB2 I can't wait for GHWT cause RB2 is pretty bad, I liked GH: Aerosmith better.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: BranDonk Kong on September 19, 2008, 08:49:53 PM
You're fucking crazy. Also, are you sure the RB1 drums don't work with World Tour? Even if they did, you'd lose a pad, since GH:WT has 5 pads and a kick.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Spinnzilla on September 19, 2008, 08:52:56 PM
You're ****ing crazy. Also, are you sure the RB1 drums don't work with World Tour? Even if they did, you'd lose a pad, since GH:WT has 5 pads and a kick.
On the 360 and PS3 version the drums work. not the wii, though. What they do is shrink the note highway down to four on world tour.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: decoyman on September 22, 2008, 02:38:51 PM
On the 360 and PS3 version the drums work. not the wii, though. What they do is shrink the note highway down to four on world tour.
Will it work the other way around? Like, will the GH:WT drums work w/ Rockband 2? (Wii specifically)
I'm not sure, it'd be a dumb decision for the for them to short change wii owners with lack of compatibility. I'll guess we'll just have to have wait for the releases.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Morari on September 22, 2008, 07:21:58 PM
Harmonix really needs to get with it in regards to the Wii. Not only was their port of the first Rock Band ridiculously bad, but the lack of compatibility with Guitar Hero's pre-existing and better designed peripherals did all but guarantee no one would purchase it. Had I been able to use my Guitar Hero controller with the game, I could have looked past the lack of pretty much every feature and just bought the disc itself to enjoy as a guitar-only experience.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: BranDonk Kong on September 22, 2008, 09:41:29 PM
Datel released (or is releasing) some device that lets you use the RockBand guitar on Guitar Hero, and the Guitar Hero guitar on RockBand, it's for PS3 and Wii only, and it even lets you use your instruments on both consoles as well. You could play PS3 RockBand with a Wii Guitar Hero guitar. Having said that, PS3 sucks, and so does RockBand on Wii (in comparison to the others, as a game on it's own, however, it's great).
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: shammack on September 30, 2008, 06:02:33 PM
I know they already said it was going to be "more competitive," but I think this is the first time they've specifically confirmed those features. No details about how the DLC storage will work.
Until I know I can use the GHWT instruments I'm still not interested.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: vudu on September 30, 2008, 08:00:24 PM
Datel released (or is releasing) some device that lets you use the RockBand guitar on Guitar Hero, and the Guitar Hero guitar on RockBand, it's for PS3 and Wii only, and it even lets you use your instruments on both consoles as well. You could play PS3 RockBand with a Wii Guitar Hero guitar.
This is good news for me. I was skipping both games this time around because the two companies can't get their **** together. I'll keep my eyes open for this. Let us know if you hear anything more (such as price point and if it works). ;)
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: EasyCure on September 30, 2008, 08:43:51 PM
Datel released (or is releasing) some device that lets you use the RockBand guitar on Guitar Hero, and the Guitar Hero guitar on RockBand, it's for PS3 and Wii only, and it even lets you use your instruments on both consoles as well. You could play PS3 RockBand with a Wii Guitar Hero guitar.
This is good news for me. I was skipping both games this time around because the two companies can't get their **** together. I'll keep my eyes open for this. Let us know if you hear anything more (such as price point and if it works). ;)
thats awesome news but i dont know if i'll ever really give in and buy rock band (disc only) for my wii just to play a couple more songs, thats what DLC is for.
With that said, if activision sucks bringing more songs to GH:WT, then i might just have to get Rock Band (disc only, still) since i hear they're DLC is good. Oh and if RB really is "full featured" on wii as they claim...
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: NWR_Lindy on October 01, 2008, 02:34:56 PM
For the record, I got RB2 last week for 360 and I think it's great. It's basically Rock Band v1.5, but that's fine with me, since Rock Band had more elements than Guitar Hero III to begin with. They didn't have as much stuff to upgrade.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Schadenfreude on October 01, 2008, 08:34:37 PM
What's you're favorite song to play so far John? I play drums and I'd have to say my favorite is Livin' on a Prayer.
WE'VE GOT EACH OTHER AND THAT'S A LOT FOR LOVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVE
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: NWR_Lindy on October 01, 2008, 11:12:43 PM
Pretty funny actually, the song I was least looking forward to playing was "Go Your Own Way" by Fleetwood Mac. It turned out that that song RULES on the drums. It's a little difficult at first, but it's a fairly long song and by the end you're pretty well-adjusted to the combos they throw at you. And the combos are FUN.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: bosshogx on October 10, 2008, 05:06:34 PM
I'm surprised nobody brought up the AC/DC track pack for Rock Band 2 yet.
The long and short of it is that it's releasing on the 2nd of November for the 360, PS3, and PS2. It releases on the 16th of November for the Wii. It will only be sold at Wal-Mart and will carry a retail price of $39.99 for all systems except the PS2 which will be $29.99. The PS3 and 360 versions will include a code that lets one transfer the music onto your harddrive one time only. That will help avoid any disc swapping. All the songs will be masters from live performances. Here's the 18 song track list:
"Thunderstruck" "Shoot to Thrill" "Back in Black" "Hell Ain't a Bad Place to Be" "Heatseeker" "Fire Your Guns" "Jailbreak" "The Jack" "Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap" "Moneytalks" "Hells Bells" "High Voltage" "Whole Lotta Rosie" "You Shook Me All Night Long" "T.N.T." "Let There Be Rock” "Highway To Hell” "For Those About to Rock (We Salute You)”
I'm a huge AC/DC whore so my opinion is going to be understandably skewed, but almost all of those songs minus three or so, are the absolute best songs they did. Furthermore, 18 songs for $40 works out to be a bit over $2 a song, which is the standard for DLC. All in all, even if I hadn't had RB2 already, this would have been the straw that broke the camels back, so to speak. Hopefully, the Wii RB2 owners will get some way to transfer music to SD cards sometime next year.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Nick DiMola on October 10, 2008, 05:15:57 PM
We ran an article on it, and there are some responses in the talkback thread (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=26284).
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: BranDonk Kong on October 10, 2008, 05:38:48 PM
This should work with RockBand 1 also, transferring the songs that is...maybe not.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Spinnzilla on October 10, 2008, 09:46:57 PM
Brian Johnson singing Bon Scott era songs isn't really my cup of tea.
I'd much rather have a Highway to Hell/Black in Black double album download or something like that.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: NWR_Lindy on October 11, 2008, 10:06:58 AM
Bosshogx - I'm also an AC/DC fan, and I'm so all over this. I didn't realize that it's going to be a retail release, though. Looks like it's going on my Christmas List.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: bosshogx on October 12, 2008, 10:59:09 AM
Bosshogx - I'm also an AC/DC fan, and I'm so all over this. I didn't realize that it's going to be a retail release, though. Looks like it's going on my Christmas List.
Yeah man, three weeks and counting.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: NWR_Lindy on October 12, 2008, 12:40:04 PM
Actually, screw the Christmas list. I can't wait that long. THUN-DER
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: BranDonk Kong on October 15, 2008, 10:18:50 AM
So apparently the Wii version of RB2 is just as good (aside from a couple tiny details) as the 360/PS3 versions, and will have available all of the DLC from RB1 and RB2 as well. It won't have the direct-from-SD loading yet, but there will probably be a patch very soon. You can also preview tracks and save directly to the SD card, you just need to copy to the Wii's internal memory first, at least until a patch is released.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: EasyCure on October 15, 2008, 10:35:41 AM
So apparently the Wii version of RB2 is just as good (aside from a couple tiny details) as the 360/PS3 versions, and will have available all of the DLC from RB1 and RB2 as well. It won't have the direct-from-SD loading yet, but there will probably be a patch very soon. You can also preview tracks and save directly to the SD card, you just need to copy to the Wii's internal memory first, at least until a patch is released.
Even with this news, it still feels like it falls short...
I'm not trying to flame either, i'm not a hardcore fan of either games (RB or GH), but right now activision won my money with their wii version. I wouldn't be opposed to buying RB (game only) if/when they make instruments compatible for eachother though (again, wii version)
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: BranDonk Kong on October 15, 2008, 12:44:46 PM
It may fall short of GHWT, but it doesn't fall short of the greatness that is Rock Band 2 on XBox 360.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Morari on October 15, 2008, 06:37:02 PM
I wouldn't be opposed to buying RB (game only) if/when they make instruments compatible for eachother though (again, wii version)
Agreed. I'll give the game a try once Harmonix takes their heads out of their ass and utilizes the superior design of an integrated Wiimote. Nintendo should really be forcing the issue too, as currently it hurts the consumers more than anything.
Of course, those ridiculously priced Guitar Hero controllers also hurt the consumer. Why ever they're the same price as the 360/PS3 controllers is beyond me, consider most of the functionality piggybacks off of the Wiimote.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: BranDonk Kong on October 16, 2008, 02:39:20 PM
The instruments from GH4 will work on RB2...probably the other way around, too.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on October 17, 2008, 05:22:34 AM
I wouldn't be opposed to buying RB (game only) if/when they make instruments compatible for eachother though (again, wii version)
Of course, those ridiculously priced Guitar Hero controllers also hurt the consumer. Why ever they're the same price as the 360/PS3 controllers is beyond me, consider most of the functionality piggybacks off of the Wiimote.
Easy Activision wants to give the pricing of the Wii version and the Wii guitar "equal treatment" that the PS3 and 360 versions get. And they also know that people will buy them since Wii is the party console and Wii owners eat up music games.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Morari on October 17, 2008, 11:51:30 AM
I can assure you that the large majority of people I know have not purchased an additional guitar controller. $60 is just a tad ridiculous for any peripheral.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Spinnzilla on October 17, 2008, 11:37:17 PM
Looks like we're getting dogged on the DLC savings (money) on Rock Band and probably guitar hero as well.
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The reason Harmonix isn’t producing song packs for “Rock Band 2″ on Wii is because of how Nintendo handles content on their store. Nintendo doesn’t allow multiple versions of the same content, so everything will be sold as singles — including full albums. Essentially, Wii owners will miss out on bundled song savings. This could change if Nintendo’s policy does.
it makes sense that the same would apply for GHWT. sh*t.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Morari on October 17, 2008, 11:40:54 PM
Just release the singles cheaper? Problem solved!
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Spinnzilla on October 17, 2008, 11:44:18 PM
or put in a system that recognizes when you have bought more than 2 songs.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: BranDonk Kong on October 18, 2008, 12:21:41 AM
Nintendo is kind of being a douchebag about this, though at the very least they should let you use your EA Nation (and friend codes, simultaneously) account for online play. Lowering the price across the board wouldn't be fair to 360 and PS3 players, they just need to find a way to link the songs together without repacking them (I imagine Nintendo is trying to save storage space on their servers) as another file.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on October 18, 2008, 07:38:13 AM
Nintendo is kind of being a douchebag about this, though at the very least they should let you use your EA Nation (and friend codes, simultaneously) account for online play. Lowering the price across the board wouldn't be fair to 360 and PS3 players, they just need to find a way to link the songs together without repacking them (I imagine Nintendo is trying to save storage space on their servers) as another file.
Well I can understand the reason why Nintendo doesn't allow the song packs and singles. A lot of my friends downloaded the same song twice on rock band 1 by accident before harmonix patched in the ingame song store. Also I don't think Nintendo wants to waste server space on redundant content, I think if harmonix could of made a work around like this: If you buy a bundle pack it would queue each song that belongs in the pack and then it takes enough Wii points to cover the price of the bundle. Or if that doesnt work buy a bundle then mark each song that belongs in the bundle as purchased.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: bosshogx on October 18, 2008, 06:14:45 PM
[important news]
Only 2 weeks till left until it's time to rock the AC/DC (4 if you're a Wii owner).
[/important news]
;D
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: LuigiHann on October 19, 2008, 12:58:39 PM
Looks like we're getting dogged on the DLC savings (money) on Rock Band and probably guitar hero as well.
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The reason Harmonix isn’t producing song packs for “Rock Band 2″ on Wii is because of how Nintendo handles content on their store. Nintendo doesn’t allow multiple versions of the same content, so everything will be sold as singles — including full albums. Essentially, Wii owners will miss out on bundled song savings. This could change if Nintendo’s policy does.
it makes sense that the same would apply for GHWT. sh*t.
Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if GHWT goes the other way, offering the songs as packs but not as singles.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: EasyCure on October 19, 2008, 03:55:58 PM
i've heard that the wiiware FF game with DLC offers packs and singles in their content. ie Buy 1 race/species each, or buy a bundle....
doesn't that disprove what they're talking about here? or is it a seperate issue all together..
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on October 19, 2008, 04:08:56 PM
i've heard that the wiiware FF game with DLC offers packs and singles in their content. ie Buy 1 race/species each, or buy a bundle....
doesn't that disprove what they're talking about here? or is it a seperate issue all together..
That is true, if you buy the race pack on the DLC it puts a notation that you downloaded those races. If you buy 1 race the option to buy the race pack is grayed out. Like I said they should of made a system where the bundle queues up all the respective content or marks each content under the bundle as purchased.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Morari on October 19, 2008, 04:45:46 PM
i've heard that the wiiware FF game with DLC offers packs and singles in their content. ie Buy 1 race/species each, or buy a bundle....
doesn't that disprove what they're talking about here? or is it a seperate issue all together..
Much like how the "technical limitations" holding the first Rock Band back on the Wii were all disproved? :P
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Spinnzilla on October 19, 2008, 10:12:38 PM
It makes sense about the singles only ordeal because once you think about nintendo's policy to wiiware. as they have a 40 megabyte size limit and considering each song on average is about 30 megs of space, they can't do track packs because it would be well beyond 40 megs. I could be wrong, but I'm thinking that this rule applies to traditional DLC as well.
damn you, nintendo! *waves fist*
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Ian Sane on October 20, 2008, 08:01:59 PM
Why is this Rock Band 2 thread in general gaming when there's a Wii version? I keep forgetting to keep up with this thread but it's almost as important for Guitar Hero: World Tour info as the GH thread (and vice versa).
Any DLC related setback due to Nintendo's incompetance is unacceptable. We need a REAL storage solution. Does Nintendo even take into account third party developers at ALL when developing videogames systems? The most routine stuff comes up and they're caught with their dick out every time. Even if YOU don't plan on having much DLC the stupidest peon can GUESS that someone who makes games for your console will. But, hey, piss off your userbase and make the competition look better because you've got ignorant non-gamers to carry your ass.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: decoyman on October 21, 2008, 11:52:33 AM
The instruments from GH4 will work on RB2...probably the other way around, too.
Link? And does it work the other way around (ie RB1 instruments work in GHWT) I want some hawt table action noting compatibility across all "band" games, STAT! Yes, NWR Staff folk, I am talking to you.
Why is this Rock Band 2 thread in general gaming when there's a Wii version? I keep forgetting to keep up with this thread but it's almost as important for Guitar Hero: World Tour info as the GH thread (and vice versa).
QFT
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: NWR_insanolord on October 21, 2008, 01:27:25 PM
I got this yesterday for the 360 and I'm loving it. I didn't realize how hard drums would be. The "Unlock All songs" code isn't working for me for some reason. And Harmonix is officially as bad as Nintendo, they won't show my band name on Xbox Live because it's not "classy" and I have no idea why.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: NWR_Lindy on October 21, 2008, 01:34:29 PM
They wouldn't show my band quote on Xbox Live, presumably because it has the word "nut" in it.
Try drums on Easy to start out with. You'll find they're really enjoyable, and actually more gratifying than guitar/bass. Check out "Go Your Own Way" on drums, it's awesome.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: NWR_insanolord on October 21, 2008, 01:41:16 PM
I have no real intention of playing on Live, and even if I did I wouldn't care if people saw the band name because it's an inside joke that only friends of mine would get, but I have no idea why they would block a band called "The Jimmy James Experience". I have been playing drums on Easy and having a lot of fun with them. I remembered that you said that about "Go Your Own Way", but like I said the code isn't working for me so I have to wait until I unlock it in Tour Mode before I can play it.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: decoyman on October 21, 2008, 02:26:50 PM
insanolord, if it's like the code for RB1 (Wii), you have to enter it really quickly for it to work, like all buttons in under 3 seconds. Took a few tries for me to get the coordination down.
RYBRRBBRYB, I think that was the code for Wii, and you had to enter it on the start screen (oh, and it was no strumming, just hitting the buttons... but you probably understood that already :P ).
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: NWR_Lindy on October 21, 2008, 03:00:56 PM
Insano, playing on Live is a lot of fun. If you can't find people to play with, it's also very good for beating the Challenges.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: NWR_insanolord on October 21, 2008, 03:42:56 PM
I got the code to work and tried Go Your Own Way and did the best I've ever done on drums despite accidentally playing it on Medium.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: NWR_Lindy on October 21, 2008, 03:55:09 PM
Yeah, once you learn the drum pattern you're off and running. Still, it's just difficult enough to make you feel like you've accomplished something.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Ian Sane on October 21, 2008, 05:56:14 PM
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but I have no idea why they would block a band called "The Jimmy James Experience".
Is that a Newsradio reference? :)
Maybe the problem is that it has "s Ex" in the title. The code they use to check the name might strip out the white spaces and then search for naughty words. Otherwise they're afraid someone might beat the name check by calling their band "fu ck" or something like that.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: NWR_insanolord on October 21, 2008, 06:59:27 PM
We call a friend of ours Jimmy James, the nickname is a reference to the fantastic TV show you mentioned.
That's the most logical explanation I can think of, though I wouldn't think they'd block the word "sex", and even if they were going to I would think the filter would be sophisticated enough to realize that I wasn't doing that.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: EasyCure on October 21, 2008, 07:05:03 PM
so no Sex Pistols? lol
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: LuigiHann on October 22, 2008, 02:03:35 AM
It comes out Nov 4th, and it'll be available for download on Wii when that version launches.
I'm mildly disappointed that I don't know any of those bands, I was hoping for some David Bowie or at least something along the lines of Limozeen, but whatever.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: NWR_Lindy on October 22, 2008, 09:15:42 AM
Yeah, the free DLC is pretty lame, but hey, it's free. I have a feeling that at least some of those bands are friends of Harmonix. Either that or they're really underground.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on October 22, 2008, 10:49:41 AM
The only band I recognize on that list is Kutless, which is a Christian rock band. I don't see any of the Harmonix regulars from the first two Guitar Heroes.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Schadenfreude on October 22, 2008, 11:16:40 AM
I figured the free songs would be weak. Oh well.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: BranDonk Kong on October 22, 2008, 10:08:11 PM
The instruments from GH4 will work on RB2...probably the other way around, too.
Link? And does it work the other way around (ie RB1 instruments work in GHWT) I want some hawt table action noting compatibility across all "band" games, STAT! Yes, NWR Staff folk, I am talking to you. The RockBand 1 drums work in GHWT, I can confirm this, because I have it for 360. Still though, I'll probably trade up for the GH drums because they will be so much better GHWT.
Why is this Rock Band 2 thread in general gaming when there's a Wii version? I keep forgetting to keep up with this thread but it's almost as important for Guitar Hero: World Tour info as the GH thread (and vice versa).
QFT
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: bosshogx on November 03, 2008, 04:10:12 PM
The AC/DC Track pack came out yesterday at Wal-Mart. Go out and buy it. :)
Actually, I don't know why they just didn't offer it as DLC to be honest. I opened the game, flipped the instruction manual over, entered in the 20 digit code, and began downloading a 700 meg file. It then occurred to me that I forgot to put the disc in the tray and as I went to do so, the download % indicator started going up, which just proved that I didn't need the disc to being with. For kicks, I put the disc in and fired it up. Basically, it's Rock Band 1's interface, no character creator, and 18 songs to choose from. Why would anyone bother playing this by itself? Doesn't matter though...
I now have the greatness that is AC/DC playable in RB2 and beyond! Woot!
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Post by: NWR_Lindy on November 03, 2008, 07:24:31 PM
I'm going against every instinct and putting this on the Christmas list instead of going out and buying it today. I'm trying to subsidize my entire Rock Band 2 experience this Christmas...I have the Drum Rocker kit, Alesis brain, AC/DC track pack, and wireless guitar on my list.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on November 03, 2008, 08:43:43 PM
The AC/DC Track pack came out yesterday at Wal-Mart. Go out and buy it. :)
Actually, I don't know why they just didn't offer it as DLC to be honest. I opened the game, flipped the instruction manual over, entered in the 20 digit code, and began downloading a 700 meg file. It then occurred to me that I forgot to put the disc in the tray and as I went to do so, the download % indicator started going up, which just proved that I didn't need the disc to being with. For kicks, I put the disc in and fired it up. Basically, it's Rock Band 1's interface, no character creator, and 18 songs to choose from. Why would anyone bother playing this by itself? Doesn't matter though...
I now have the greatness that is AC/DC playable in RB2 and beyond! Woot!
Hey that means that you can sell it on ebay for some money back.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: BranDonk Kong on November 04, 2008, 01:13:19 AM
That's actually pretty funny. You could go halves with a buddy and both get all of the content, though one would have to only play it as a stand-alone game. Still though, you could sell it to someone without Xbox Live.
Edit - also I just realize I totally f'ed up that post from the 21st...but you get the idea.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: bosshogx on November 10, 2008, 07:50:36 PM
Hey that means that you can sell it on ebay for some money back.
You read my mind. :) I'll just have too be extra careful to note that the game can only be played locally and such.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: decoyman on November 11, 2008, 12:30:04 PM
Ok, having decided to limit myself to one "full band game" this season, and having decided that my band game of choice would be RB2, AND already being the owner of Rock Band: "Special" Edition on Wii...
What do you think our chances are that Harmonix will find some way in the next month to make not only RB1 DLC compatible w/ RB2 (which we know will happen, yay!), but actual RB1 on-disc content as well? 360/PS3 people have a way to do this for a piddly $5 – just copy it to the HDs, of course! But theoretically, they could still do it on Wii via SD card if they wanted to, right?
... Right?!
:'(
For the record, my guess on probability is miniscule-to-none. :(
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on November 11, 2008, 02:10:25 PM
Ok, having decided to limit myself to one "full band game" this season, and having decided that my band game of choice would be RB2, AND already being the owner of Rock Band: "Special" Edition on Wii...
What do you think our chances are that Harmonix will find some way in the next month to make not only RB1 DLC compatible w/ RB2 (which we know will happen, yay!), but actual RB1 on-disc content as well? 360/PS3 people have a way to do this for a piddly $5 – just copy it to the HDs, of course! But theoretically, they could still do it on Wii via SD card if they wanted to, right?
... Right?!
:'(
For the record, my guess on probability is miniscule-to-none. :(
Decoy, on Wii harmonix will release the full DLC catalog on a week to week basis until they catchup fully to what is current while releasing the songs scheduled for the current week. The Wii version will also have the 20 free songs that is offered to the 360 and PS3 users I recommend you to pick up a SD card since the 20 free songs weighed in at 570 MB on the 360 version. The only caveat the Wii DLC store will have is all songs will be available as singles only because Nintendo doesn't allow the same content twice (but that strikes me odd since FFCC pulled it off) I don't get why you can't buy a bundle where it simply marks off all the songs in that bundle and you just download each song separately.
Edit: Rock band 1 and Rock band 2 DLC are the same exact thing, you won't be able to import the Rock Band 1 disc songs to Rock Band 2 because Nintendo does not allow patches.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: decoyman on November 11, 2008, 02:18:31 PM
But Flames, how about this instead...
Depending on disc-space, why couldn't they just put all the RB1 songs on the RB2 disc as well, then let you unlock it somehow if you can prove you have RB1? No patch, it'd just be like Layton or any other game which has extra content locked away until you buy access to it.
Heck, I wouldn't care if I had to send in my RB1 & RB2 discs, then they mail me a disc back with both sets of tunes on it. It'd be positive PR, like, "Thanks for supporting us from the beginning, loyal customer! We appreciate you, and are happy to go out of our way to make YOU happy."
Yeah, yeah, I know... (looks down, kicks pebble) :(
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on November 11, 2008, 04:49:10 PM
Depending on disc-space, why couldn't they just put all the RB1 songs on the RB2 disc as well, then let you unlock it somehow if you can prove you have RB1? No patch, it'd just be like Layton or any other game which has extra content locked away until you buy access to it.
Heck, I wouldn't care if I had to send in my RB1 & RB2 discs, then they mail me a disc back with both sets of tunes on it. It'd be positive PR, like, "Thanks for supporting us from the beginning, loyal customer! We appreciate you, and are happy to go out of our way to make YOU happy."
Yeah, yeah, I know... (looks down, kicks pebble) :(
Probably because it might be a logistics nightmare, I did the export thing on 360 it was 1.23 GB so good luck putting that much on your SD card. But the main issue is that Nintendo doesn't allow patches so you wouldn't be possible to stream the data from the disc to the SD card. And plus the way Rock Band 1 was made on Wii it probably doesn't even know how to detect patches.
Even though I exported I still am keeping my Rock Band 1 disc.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: decoyman on November 11, 2008, 05:44:34 PM
:( :( :(
Why can't you guys get along, Harmonix and Nintendo? Why?
:'(
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on November 11, 2008, 07:12:08 PM
If Harmonix and Nintendo didn't get along then I doubt Rock Band will even be on the system.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: BranDonk Kong on November 12, 2008, 12:06:33 AM
Nintendo allows patches. Madden 09 is patched the first time you take it online...
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on November 12, 2008, 09:43:49 AM
Nintendo allows patches. Madden 09 is patched the first time you take it online...
By "patched" do you mean roster updates?
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: BranDonk Kong on November 12, 2008, 09:53:19 AM
Sure it's essentially a roster update, but I don't think it's optional, which in my view, makes it a patch.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: decoyman on November 21, 2008, 01:25:42 PM
So, Amazon's got this game releasing on December 22nd for Wii.
Can anyone figure out why it's taken so long? Bugs w/ the online parts? Maybe they couldn't figure out how to make DLC work? Just hate the Wii userbase?
/bitter-at-late-AND-lack-of-features
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on November 21, 2008, 01:48:37 PM
So, Amazon's got this game releasing on December 22nd for Wii.
Can anyone figure out why it's taken so long? Bugs w/ the online parts? Maybe they couldn't figure out how to make DLC work? Just hate the Wii userbase?
/bitter-at-late-AND-lack-of-features
Well lets see they probably want time to implement DLC since they will also be putting back catalog games to catch up to the 360/PS3 versions so every week it will be what the 360 and PS3 are coming out in terms of songs + back catalog until they catch up, SD card streaming, manufacturing the instruments(MTV/Harmonix/EA doesn't have a dedicated company to make instruments unlike Activision does with Red Octane), and they are probably working with Nintendo to get the 20 free songs up and running on Nintendo Wifi Connection.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Spinnzilla on December 10, 2008, 02:27:53 PM
http://wii.ign.com/articles/937/937092p1.html
good news for GHWT wii owners.
everything has been made compatible. Also the GHIII guitar as well.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: vudu on December 10, 2008, 02:32:57 PM
GODDAMN IT
I'm skipping out on this round of music games because Activision and MTV couldn't get their heads out of their asses. Now I might have run out of excuses.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: EasyCure on December 10, 2008, 02:36:56 PM
everything has been made compatible. Also the GHIII guitar as well.
Sweet, i might have to go pick up the games (used) now, depending on their setlist. Too bad the wii is getting all of RB's DLC late, and too bad this will probably be the last good version of these types of games (seeing as how devs are raping the genre)
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Ian Sane on December 10, 2008, 06:20:40 PM
In retrospect having to wait forever to find the bundle has paid off. The stores in my area have been getting them in steady since Black Friday (I know because they always run out of Wii version by the time I get off work but constantly restock the other versions) and now I know I can later buy Rock Band 2 as well.
I'm surprised this isn't on the front page of NWR. It seems like significant news.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: EasyCure on December 12, 2008, 06:56:44 PM
everything has been made compatible. Also the GHIII guitar as well.
Not so fast! Does this mean GH instruments may not be compatible?? (http://wii.ign.com/articles/937/937092p1.html)
If it turns out they only made ign's review copy compatible, that will really suck. They did state in the original article that they didnt have the RB2 instruments so maybe this is the case. Bummer.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Ian Sane on December 15, 2008, 12:37:19 PM
If they can make the review copy compatible then they can make the REAL copy compatible and if they don't then f*ck 'em!
Seriously though I call for a class action lawsuit if that's the case. They've clearly shown they CAN make the games compatible and if they intentionally refuse to for the Wii retail version when ALL the other versions have no such issue they're taking advantage of the customer.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on December 15, 2008, 07:10:21 PM
If they can make the review copy compatible then they can make the REAL copy compatible and if they don't then f*ck 'em!
Seriously though I call for a class action lawsuit if that's the case. They've clearly shown they CAN make the games compatible and if they intentionally refuse to for the Wii retail version when ALL the other versions have no such issue they're taking advantage of the customer.
Or maybe it's a case of IGN being fucktards again *sigh* I think they enjoy ruining their reputation.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: EasyCure on December 15, 2008, 07:33:58 PM
or it could be both.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: NWR_Lindy on December 15, 2008, 09:13:07 PM
Just got the AC/DC pack as a Christmas present. I'm loving it, even though I wish that the tracks weren't live (I would have loved to have Bon Scott's version of T.N.T. on there). You absolutely don't need the disc at all, though. There's a code on the back of the manual, you put that in on Xbox Live and you download the songs.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on December 15, 2008, 11:02:18 PM
Well guys harmonix set everything straight.
As it turns out, Harmonix has quite a bit to say about Rock Band 2 on Wii.
Regarding the impending and very late release of Rock Band 2 for Wii, Harmonix has issued a detailed statement in response to our story from earlier today. We're printing the statement in full below, because it includes several details about the Wii version of the game that the company has yet to talk about in much detail. For example:
* Downloadable content will "work seamlessly with an SD card," * "Ongoing online support" with "new battles posted consistently," * "Robust character creation," * "Fully functional online world tour," and * Full compatibility with other Wii instruments.
Also in the statement is Harmonix's pledge to release the Wii versions of games simultaneously with other platforms.
Hi Everyone:
We just announced on Friday that we'll officially be shipping out the Wii version of Rock Band 2 on December 18th. This is just 2 months after our September 14th launch on Xbox 360, and we're really pleased with the game we were able to put together.
As most of you know, we're avid readers of our forums, and we place a lot of stock into what our fans think. We've seen that many users in the Wii community have been unhappy with the period of time between Rock Band's release on other platforms and on Wii. We want to apologize for the delay in getting RB2 onto the Wii and to reaffirm that we believe that Wii is an amazing and unique fit for Rock Band 2, and one that we care deeply about getting right.
The extra time we've spent on RB2 Wii has resulted in the definitive full band experience on that platform. In addition to a fully functional online world tour, updatable battle of the bands, robust character creation, and a DLC catalog that will be growing exponentially after launch, we've maintained the highest standard in 4-player collaborative game play, allowing you to rock to over 100 amazing songs just by purchasing Rock Band 2. Also, we can confirm that this game is compatible with other existing instrument controllers available for Wii for both guitar and drums. Even if you've picked up another full band game, you can grab Rock Band 2 in its standalone software format, buying individual instruments and the disc itself to customize your band. We believe we’ve created an extraordinary game with the help of Nintendo, and we think that you'll all be very pleased when you get your hands on it.
This game could not have been completed without the tireless efforts of our partners at Pi Studios in Houston, who literally worked through a hurricane to bring this game in before the holidays. It was a sight to behold, and anyone waiting for Rock Band 2 for Wii (or PS2 for that matter) owes them a big thanks. Their efforts, combined with our internal Rock Band team and Nintendo, are what made the game the best Wii game available in full band gameplay this holiday. Going forward, it is our ambition to release future games on Wii simultaneously with releases on the other platforms.
We're going to continue to watch these forums to see how you're enjoying the game and how we can best support you moving forward. With the launch of our DLC catalog (which will work seamlessly with an SD card) and ongoing online support (with new battles posted consistently), Rock Band 2 brings the living breathing world of rock to Wii in full effect. We know you will enjoy it.
Yours, Harmonix
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: nickmitch on December 16, 2008, 01:45:38 AM
This makes my day. My savings account on the other hand. . .
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: EasyCure on December 16, 2008, 12:28:11 PM
I'll wait for a review to see how well GH:WT instruments work before picking up the (disc only) game. Or maybe i'll wait till i can find it for cheap too, either way works better than investing in the full band kit (again)
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Ian Sane on December 16, 2008, 12:40:01 PM
Good. Harmonix aren't morons. I will be gladly purchasing Rock Band 2.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Tanookisuit on December 21, 2008, 03:05:17 PM
My girlfriend gave me Rockband 2 Special Edition today as an early Christmas present. Now I need a 2nd guitar! I know GHWT guitars work, but do any Guitar Hero guitars work? Any 3rd party guitars? It's a shame they're so expensive, but I need a bass!
BTW, the game is great. I'm glad she got me this and not Guitar Hero. We've been having a blast.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on December 21, 2008, 04:59:50 PM
My girlfriend gave me Rockband 2 Special Edition today as an early Christmas present. Now I need a 2nd guitar! I know GHWT guitars work, but do any Guitar Hero guitars work? Any 3rd party guitars? It's a shame they're so expensive, but I need a bass!
BTW, the game is great. I'm glad she got me this and not Guitar Hero. We've been having a blast.
What console did you get it for. 360 every GH guitar works not sure about the 3rd party controllers, if Wii every GH guitar works not sure about the 3rd party controllers, if PS3 depends if they ever released the patch.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Tanookisuit on December 21, 2008, 05:18:32 PM
I got it for Wii. I didn't realize this was the "general gaming" board. I did a little research, and found that GH3 and GHWT guitars work for Rockband 2 Wii.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Kairon on December 21, 2008, 05:26:30 PM
Man, I seriously think that I'm gonna get RB2 for the Wii over GHWT now... that's the way I'm leaning...
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on December 21, 2008, 06:09:43 PM
I got it for Wii. I didn't realize this was the "general gaming" board. I did a little research, and found that GH3 and GHWT guitars work for Rockband 2 Wii.
And so do the drums but that's a moot point since you got the whole set. I don't know if the slider on the world tour guitar works in rock band. If you play with the guitar hero guitars the only thing you'll be missing is the special effects switch.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: DAaaMan64 on December 21, 2008, 08:22:42 PM
All in personal preferences. (perhaps maybe not the gameplay, but they're pretty f*cking identical).
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Morari on December 23, 2008, 11:22:56 PM
The track list in World Tour is extremely uneven and doesn't tend to compare to what Legends of Rock had. I can't say that a good chunk of what Rock Band has is very interesting either however. Presentation wise, Rock Band seems kind of sparse and almost sterile in many regards. I can probably read the song titles before playing them in Rock Band though...
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: LuigiHann on December 24, 2008, 12:47:23 AM
I'll probably get GHWT in the long run, but I have to say I'm pretty happy with RB2. The biggest different for me is that the character designs, particularly the singer and drummer, and particularly their faces, are absolutely terrible in the Guitar Hero series. By comparison, the facial animation and lip sync, as well as the overall choreography of the characters, ia much more pleasant in Rock Band.
Beyond that I'd say it's largely up to song preference. Rock Band gives you access to so many tracks through DLC that the handful of songs I like on the GHWT disc haven't tempted me yet, but I might add it to my collection someday if I find a good price.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: BranDonk Kong on December 24, 2008, 01:07:21 AM
The only advantage GHWT has is the Death Magnetic album DLC. The gameplay is similar - but RockBand's timing window is much more natural, and they don't add as many extra notes that shouldn't be there that GHWT does. I *do* like the "let ring" parts that GHWT has though.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: shammack on December 24, 2008, 06:51:34 AM
You guys are pretty forgiving. OK, so Rock Band 2 on Wii finally has the features that Rock Band 1 should have had. For me, that doesn't make up for the insult that was the Wii port of Rock Band 1. If anything, it makes it seem even more insulting because it proves that their claims about how those features weren't possible on the Wii were complete bullshit and that it was just a cheap, lazy cash-in that stil managed to come out a year late for some reason. I'm a little reluctant to jump back on the Harmonix love train after that disgusting display.
P.S. Other advantage of GHWT: good guitar controllers.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Morari on December 24, 2008, 08:31:52 PM
The only advantage GHWT has is the Death Magnetic album DLC.
That sounds like a pretty big disadvantage to me. Having the fucking Hendrix tracks would have been much better.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Spinnzilla on December 24, 2008, 08:59:03 PM
have RB2 guitar controllers improved from the first?
Last I played rock band, the guitar controllers look cool, but are sh*tty.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: BranDonk Kong on December 26, 2008, 11:37:02 PM
No. They *do* have a built-in camera and microphone to auto-calibrate however, but other than that it's the same clicky-buttoned and non-responsive strum bar that it's always had.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: NWR_insanolord on December 27, 2008, 11:15:14 AM
A friend of mine who had used the one from the first game liked the one I got with Rock Band 2 a lot better. He still liked the GH ones a lot more, though.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: NWR_Lindy on December 27, 2008, 11:33:12 AM
I got the 360 RB2 Wireless Guitar for Christmas, but I haven't gotten around to playing RB2 with it yet. I can tell you from holding it that the buttons feel a LOT better than the RB1 Guitar, though. They're softer and a lot less "clacky".
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: BranDonk Kong on December 27, 2008, 11:03:19 PM
It's all in your head. The only real difference is the color. They constantly change some of the internal pieces of all the GH/RB controllers, but the RB2 guitar is essentially the same exact thing as the RB1 wireless guitars. Also sans the slider and the shape of the headstock/body, the GHWT guitar is the exact same thing as the GH3 guitar.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: NWR_Lindy on December 28, 2008, 12:34:30 PM
The internal pieces of the RB2 guitar are no doubt the same, but the feel of the buttons is definitely different.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: decoyman on December 28, 2008, 02:35:47 PM
Hey guys, I got this for Christmas (for Wii), and the improvements over the first/gimped version are HUGE. Yes, it's what we should have had in the first place, and what 360/PS3 owners have had since the first one, but I'm just glad to have it at all. Also, it was really funny seeing my mom (an accomplished singer and our main RB vocalist) sing a song by the Beastie Boys. XD
So, when can I get my friend code thread made over in that other forum? I don't doubt I'll be the only Wii owner in there for a long time (at least until the Wii full band game comes out), but it'll make me feel better.
Till there's a FC thread, I'm putting it here: 4839 7510 2026
Also, anyone hear when the Wii Music Store is going to open up? I'm still getting the "No Music Store Data Found" error when I try to access it.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: EasyCure on December 28, 2008, 03:17:52 PM
Do you have the GH:WT instruments DecoyMan? I wanna know how well they work before i buy the game.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: decoyman on December 28, 2008, 03:46:03 PM
Nope, I bought my RB back in June, when I found it cheap on Amazon, so just needed the game in order to rock out.
I DID pick up a GHWT full-band kit, thinking I'd just sell RB1, but... couldn't end up justifying the extra $100 or so cost for something I pretty much already owned. I returned it to the store earlier this month. Now, if they'd announced that the instruments would've been compatible, I might've changed my mind, but they kept dragging their feet on it.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: EasyCure on December 28, 2008, 05:02:49 PM
oh boo. i still wanna know if its worth the purchase or not
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: BranDonk Kong on December 29, 2008, 12:14:44 AM
It's not worth getting the package - I actually prefer the RB2 drums to GHWT now, but the GH guitars, any of them, are better than the Rock Band guitars. Just get the game and the drums when they're available...then go buy a $20 GH3-clone guitar from Wal-Mart and a cheap USB microphone.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on December 29, 2008, 12:45:12 AM
It's not worth getting the package - I actually prefer the RB2 drums to GHWT now, but the GH guitars, any of them, are better than the Rock Band guitars. Just get the game and the drums when they're available...then go buy a $20 GH3-clone guitar from Wal-Mart and a cheap USB microphone.
Oddly enough it's cheaper to buy Rock Band 1 special edition (99.99) and Rock Band 2(disc only) (49.99) than to buy the Rock Band 2 Special Edition (189.99) on Wii.
The only 4 major cons are the Drums are wired (but it's white!), and the drum pedal doesn't have the metal plate on it(easy mod) and no drum silencers (easy mod) and no optional cymbal ports. But then again you will have 2 Rock Band games (yes I know the first one is gimped on Wii).
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: EasyCure on December 29, 2008, 10:59:49 AM
eh i don't thin i can switch from the GH:WT drums to the RB ones. Those cymbal pads give the playing an authenticity that would make playing drums without them feel awkward. Maybe if i wasn't already familiar with what a real drum set feels like, I'd be able to, but I know i just can't.
If the guitar works fine, thats all i need to hear to buy RB 2 (disc-only) later down the line, for cheap.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on December 29, 2008, 12:52:22 PM
eh i don't thin i can switch from the GH:WT drums to the RB ones. Those cymbal pads give the playing an authenticity that would make playing drums without them feel awkward. Maybe if i wasn't already familiar with what a real drum set feels like, I'd be able to, but I know i just can't.
If the guitar works fine, thats all i need to hear to buy RB 2 (disc-only) later down the line, for cheap.
I don't know man but I don't think the GH:WT drum kit is authentic and the "moon pie" cymbals are as loud or louder than the Rock Band drum kit. Rock Band 2 drum kit allows optional cymbals but some reviewers said that they are not very necessary and doesn't add anything to the experience. I'd give more credit to guitar hero if Neversoft knew how to properly do note chart but it's too bad for Activision that the original creator of Guitar Hero moved on to Rock Band which has a superior: Gameplay Art Direction/graphics Note Charts Available DLC catalog Sound Quality Soundtrack
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: EasyCure on December 29, 2008, 01:14:30 PM
I'm sorry I don't see how not having a cymbal acting as a high-hat or crash isn't authentic when compared to having to hit what would essentially be a snare or tom for the same note.
I'm not gonna argue about note charts or which dev is better cuz I don't care that much about either series, just stating my preference of the drums and GH:WT is where its at for me because its a more realistic representation of being behind a drumkit. In fact i'm surprised they're going as far as having a second kick pedal for Guitar Hero: Metallica just to play double-bass. To bad i won't be buying that game, not a big enough fan.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Ian Sane on December 29, 2008, 05:34:16 PM
I agree with EasyCure about the drums. Real life drums better resemble the GH kit than the RB kit. The RB kit looks like a toy with its four pads. If that sort of thing matters to you, if having the drum kit feel more like a real drum kit is important to you, then the GH drums are superior. I consider the quality of the game and the hardware to be different topics and I like the GH instruments better.
But since both games support the same hardware this really shouldn't be an "either or" situation. BUY BOTH. The only decision you have to make is regarding the hardware which is also the only cost concern. Decide on what combo of hardware to get and buy both games. Buying two games is no big deal because we're gamers and, well, we all own more than one game. We aren't little kids here whose parents will only buy them one.
You didn't see this "us vs. them" with Metroid and Castlevania on the GBA. Or Fire Emblem vs. Final Fantasy Tactics. If they're on the same console, and you like the genre, you buy BOTH and you're happy to have that option. Tekken vs. Virtua Fighter was a big "issue" when they were on different consoles. Now they're on the same one so you buy both and which one you personally like better is not as big of a deal.
I have GH: World Tour and love it and I'm going to get Rock Band 2 at some point to play on my GH instruments. You can point out the superiority of Rock Band all you want. Since I'll have it I won't care and I'll play either game based on my current mood.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Spinnzilla on December 29, 2008, 05:43:00 PM
who play rock band on wii, anyways?
:P
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: LuigiHann on December 29, 2008, 05:48:14 PM
The Rock Band cymbal add-ons are cool.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: decoyman on December 29, 2008, 10:17:39 PM
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: BranDonk Kong on December 30, 2008, 12:04:24 AM
I think I'm actually going to get the RB2 drums + cymbal add-on tomorrow. I know the cymbals just "extend" the 2 buttons you choose to add them too, but they seem a lot better than the GHWT cymbals, and the drums are way quieter than the GHWT drums...also RB2 has drum freestyle, which makes the best use of the touch-sensitivity of the drums...and I have a gift card.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: shammack on January 04, 2009, 06:36:12 PM
Got this game on Wii today. So far, it's... okay. Just more of the same. I've only played guitar so far, but the GHWT controller compatibility seems to work fine (the touch pad thing doesn't do anything, but that's no big loss). There are quite a lot of repeated songs from GHWT.
Oh, and the game consistently locks up if I ever look at bandanas in the store.
Honestly, if you already have GHWT I'd say don't bother with this unless you can find it cheap.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: EasyCure on January 04, 2009, 06:50:22 PM
I've said before I'll get this (for cheap) because of the GH:WT instrument compatibility but after playing the first rock band on his 360 the other day, i'll wait to get this for DIRT cheap. I honestly like GH3/WT better than RB1. The only good feature was the ability to save your team members, but that was about all i liked from it.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: decoyman on January 05, 2009, 05:26:44 PM
I just discovered the "link your band to the site" thing, and it's pretty neat! Basically, you make it so you can see your character/band info from Tour mode on the Web site. It's kinda cool! I took a picture of my character, Aaro:
If you buy new clothes or change your hair or something in-game, it updates and everything. I'm having more fun with this than I probably should. Oh, I also took a picture of the character I made for my cat, Maggie:
Does anyone even have to comment on statements like this?
Apparently, just you.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on January 13, 2009, 05:23:09 PM
Rock Band 2 on DLC is out on Wii 50 songs are out 30 are premium and 20 are the free DLC (20 free song pack)
The first batch of offerings comprises 50 songs--20 free, 30 premium. Each premium track runs 200 Wii Points ($2), and the catalog will be continually fleshed out to match the existing PS3 and Xbox 360 DLC lineup, along with future releases.
It was not specified if the tracks are available through an in-game shop, as they are on PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360, or simply sold through the Wii Shop Channel.
A list of the tracks currently available on Wii follows below:
Paid Songs - 200 Wii Points ($2) o 30 Seconds to Mars - The Kill o All-American Rejects - Move Along o Avenged Sevenfold - Afterlife o Black Tide - Shockwave o Blink-182 - All the Small Things o Blondie - Call Me o Boston - More Than a Feeling o Boston - Rock & Roll Band o Disturbed - Inside the Fire o Fall Out Boy - This Ain't A Scene, It's An Arms Race o Jimmy Buffett - Cheeseburger in Paradise o Lynyrd Skynyrd - Simple Man o Metallica - And Justice For All o Motley Crue - Saints of Los Angeles o Muse - Hysteria o Nine Inch Nails - The Perfect Drug o Oasis - Wonderwall o Papa Roach - Time is Running Out o Paramore - Crushcrushcrush o Red Hot Chili Peppers - Snow (( Hey Oh )) o Rush - Working Man (Vault Edition) o Serj Tankian - Beethoven's C*** o Smashing Pumpkins - Zero o Stone Temple Pilots - Interstate Love Song o Stone Temple Pilots - Sex Type Thing o The Offspring - Hammerhead o The Police - Message in a Bottle o The Who - Baba O'Riley o Weezer - Buddy Holly o Weezer - El Scorcho Free Tracks o 88, The - Sons & Daughters o Authority Zero - No Regrets o Between the Buried & Me - Prequel to the Sequel o The Cab - Bounce o The Chevelles - Get It On o The Cocktail Slippers - Give it to Me o Dealership - Database Corrupted o Endeverafter - I Wanna Be Your Man o Ghost Hounds - Ashes to Fire o Hollywood Undead - Young o Kutless - The Feeling o The Len Price 3 - If I Ain't Got You o Lesley Roy - I'm Gone I'm Going o Opiate for the Masses - Burn You Down o Semi-Precious Weapons - Magnetic Baby o Shaimus - Like a Fool o thenewno2 - Crazy Tuesday o Tickle Me Pink - The Time is Wrong o Underoath - Desperate Times, Desperate Measures o X Japan - I.V.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Spinnzilla on January 13, 2009, 06:47:40 PM
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Metallica - And Justice For All
This makes me wonder what is activision's excuse on not having the rest of DM on WT's DLC channel for the wii?
...And Justice for All is longer than all of DM's track save for "Suicide and Redemption" (which only beats it by a few seconds).
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: shammack on January 13, 2009, 07:48:59 PM
It was not specified if the tracks are available through an in-game shop, as they are on PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360, or simply sold through the Wii Shop Channel.
They're in the in-game shop. It works the same way as the Guitar Hero DLC... everything except adding Wii points to your account can be done from within the game.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Morari on January 18, 2009, 12:52:27 AM
...And Justice For All?! I would have much preferred Ride the Lightning from Rock Band's back catalog. It's not as lyrically repetitive.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: decoyman on January 18, 2009, 01:02:59 PM
Eh, we'll get it all eventually, so it's not a big deal. I'm curious to see this week how many "extra" songs we get... may be able to calculate how long it'll be before Wii is caught up...
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: BranDonk Kong on January 18, 2009, 11:19:55 PM
I can kill AJFA on the drums, usually a 95% on expert...Ride the Lightning is a different story, I can get anywhere from 80-85%, but still beat it. There's just so damn many kick-kick-kick-kick parts.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: EasyCure on January 31, 2009, 12:24:20 PM
BUMP! I need to know who has this on Wii and how well do the GH:WT instruments work, fast!
I wanna buy the game at Circuit City before it sells out, even if the discount isnt that huge.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Morari on January 31, 2009, 08:48:30 PM
The instruments from World Tour work fine. The extra cymbal is not used on the drums, more is the touch pad use on the guitar. The only real downside seems to be that there is no way to tap strum during the solo sections, as the GH guitar is missing the lower fret buttons. It seems to be that Harmonix could have just allowed you to tap strum on the regular buttons, but alas.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: EasyCure on February 02, 2009, 09:27:58 AM
The instruments from World Tour work fine. The extra cymbal is not used on the drums, more is the touch pad use on the guitar. The only real downside seems to be that there is no way to tap strum during the solo sections, as the GH guitar is missing the lower fret buttons. It seems to be that Harmonix could have just allowed you to tap strum on the regular buttons, but alas.
Thanks, i picked it up even before reading this post though. The tap strumming in GH is awesome and is something that's sadly missed in RB, considering they could of tried to program it in as the "solo" buttons that the RB guitar has.. weird.
I was really just worried if the feel of the game woudl be different with the GH instruments, would i be missing some huge feature for not using those solo buttons? Does that 5-way selector on the RB fender add much to the game, maybe as far as scoring goes? Are there any noticable bugs that effect the responsiveness of the controls? Thats the sorta stuff that i cared most about.
I've noticed a few times that i'd miss a not even though i was definately holding the right button and strummed at the right moment... maybe i'm not used to the smaller note area in this game, or maybe my controller itself isn't working probably.. though i've never had a problem with GH. I'll just be sure to check the connection (between the body and neck) next time i play.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: decoyman on February 02, 2009, 10:58:15 AM
So EC, how much did you get it for at CC? What sort of discounts are they down to now?
P.S. - I never use the solo frets... :-[
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: EasyCure on February 02, 2009, 11:47:36 AM
So EC, how much did you get it for at CC? What sort of discounts are they down to now?
P.S. - I never use the solo frets... :-[
Well the games are @ 20% off only, which isn't much but i went into panic mode when there was only 1 copy left. I don't remember exactly what it came out to, but it was like 40 or 41 & change.
As for the the other discounts.. well the accessories (on games) are still 30%, but hardly anything useful there. I don't want to derail this though, since theres already a proper thread for the CC discounts, so if anything i'll post discounts there. I'm pretty close to Circuit City both in the town i work, and where i live, so i pop my head in often just in case. Next up on my game list, if its cheap, Skate it!
Back on topic..
As I said in a different post in another music related thread, I'm not feeling this game as much as GH. I only played for an hour or so, but I'm not diggin' it. The first few songs either sucked or had already played a million times though, so that might be it.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: BranDonk Kong on February 02, 2009, 04:13:56 PM
The 5-way switch is completely useless, if you ask me.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Morari on February 02, 2009, 07:13:04 PM
The instruments from World Tour work fine. The extra cymbal is not used on the drums, more is the touch pad use on the guitar. The only real downside seems to be that there is no way to tap strum during the solo sections, as the GH guitar is missing the lower fret buttons. It seems to be that Harmonix could have just allowed you to tap strum on the regular buttons, but alas.
Thanks, i picked it up even before reading this post though. The tap strumming in GH is awesome and is something that's sadly missed in RB, considering they could of tried to program it in as the "solo" buttons that the RB guitar has.. weird.
I was really just worried if the feel of the game woudl be different with the GH instruments, would i be missing some huge feature for not using those solo buttons? Does that 5-way selector on the RB fender add much to the game, maybe as far as scoring goes? Are there any noticable bugs that effect the responsiveness of the controls? Thats the sorta stuff that i cared most about.
I've noticed a few times that i'd miss a not even though i was definately holding the right button and strummed at the right moment... maybe i'm not used to the smaller note area in this game, or maybe my controller itself isn't working probably.. though i've never had a problem with GH. I'll just be sure to check the connection (between the body and neck) next time i play.
I haven't noticed any problems at all. If anything, I've found that Rock Band 2 is seemingly easier to play regardless of timing windows. As far as I know, the five way switch doesn't really do anything worthwhile. Similarly, the lower fret buttons only give you an alternative to make the solos feel more interesting.
I really wish that I could activate Overdrive whenever I want while playing drums or doing vocals... like in GH: World Tour.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: EasyCure on February 03, 2009, 11:26:36 AM
The instruments from World Tour work fine. The extra cymbal is not used on the drums, more is the touch pad use on the guitar. The only real downside seems to be that there is no way to tap strum during the solo sections, as the GH guitar is missing the lower fret buttons. It seems to be that Harmonix could have just allowed you to tap strum on the regular buttons, but alas.
Thanks, i picked it up even before reading this post though. The tap strumming in GH is awesome and is something that's sadly missed in RB, considering they could of tried to program it in as the "solo" buttons that the RB guitar has.. weird.
I was really just worried if the feel of the game woudl be different with the GH instruments, would i be missing some huge feature for not using those solo buttons? Does that 5-way selector on the RB fender add much to the game, maybe as far as scoring goes? Are there any noticable bugs that effect the responsiveness of the controls? Thats the sorta stuff that i cared most about.
I've noticed a few times that i'd miss a not even though i was definately holding the right button and strummed at the right moment... maybe i'm not used to the smaller note area in this game, or maybe my controller itself isn't working probably.. though i've never had a problem with GH. I'll just be sure to check the connection (between the body and neck) next time i play.
I haven't noticed any problems at all. If anything, I've found that Rock Band 2 is seemingly easier to play regardless of timing windows. As far as I know, the five way switch doesn't really do anything worthwhile. Similarly, the lower fret buttons only give you an alternative to make the solos feel more interesting.
I really wish that I could activate Overdrive whenever I want while playing drums or doing vocals... like in GH: World Tour.
I felt it was pretty easy too, but as mentioned before i only played for a little while so i haven't had any extreme songs thrown at me. In fact alot of the beginning NY setlist is pretty easy, with bands like Interpol being very chord heavy. Chord were only hard when i was a novice, which is odd because i excel at switching chord on a real guitar, I just wasn't used to the 5 button set-up of these fake ones lol.
I hope the difficulty ramps up, soon. I started playing everything on expert and just breezing thru them.. If it werent for hammer-ons/pulloffs being weird in this game i'm sure i'd have a ton of 100% scores.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Stratos on February 03, 2009, 11:18:32 PM
(http://www.rockband.com/img/3032800/422)
Anyone checked out much of the new DLC? Other than the 20 freebies I got Crush Crush Crush though I may get Hit Me With Your Best Shot because I liked that on GH3.
And this month is supposed to be when we start getting the normal new DLC like the other systems (just in time to get the 'Ten' album which is coming soon I hope)
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: EasyCure on February 04, 2009, 09:04:20 AM
I checked out the list of DLC available and as mentioned by many others before me, which i can finally verify myself, its muuch better than GH's DLC. I'd love to buy some of those extra tunes but...
I dunno, i still get get into the game. It doesn't have that fun factor that GH has, even when playing solo. Hell i turned the game off mid tour because i was playing a gig that was sponsored Hot Topic ;) I don't mind seeing stupid product placement for KFC (mmm!) or AT&T in my video games, but Hot Topic is where i draw the line :-P
Before I forget..
Is there a way to edit my characters face/hair after I've already started a tour with him? All i can get to is clothes and stuff, but not his physical appearance.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on February 04, 2009, 08:27:15 PM
EasyCure, the ironic thing is Guitar Hero World Tour actually had a KFC product promo :P and the game came with some coupons for some food thing (I think it was KFC or whatever) . The product promos in Rock Band 2 are at the very least music related (and I hate Hot Topic). Ever since Activision took over Guitar Hero had retarded product placement.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Spinnzilla on February 04, 2009, 09:43:18 PM
i really don't care about product placement. as long as i'm not playing KFC chicken leg jewels, i'm okay with it.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Morari on February 04, 2009, 10:27:28 PM
Oh, but the Hot Topic product placement is hilarious. I was offered a promotional contract with Hot Topic just a few sets into the tour mode. The ctach was that I had to play some wanna-be punk song by Paramore. Haha, my band sold out ridiculously quick!
KFC product placement should only exist if Buckethead is a playable character. ;)
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: EasyCure on February 05, 2009, 10:34:01 AM
EasyCure, the ironic thing is Guitar Hero World Tour actually had a KFC product promo :P and the game came with some coupons for some food thing (I think it was KFC or whatever) . The product promos in Rock Band 2 are at the very least music related (and I hate Hot Topic). Ever since Activision took over Guitar Hero had retarded product placement.
I know, i got those coupons in my band kit, haven't used them yet though ;) In fact both examples i used were actual products seen in GH. The first 'venue' you play at has a load of kfc stuff on a table, as well as a coke bottle that has its own cutscene! Then theres that venue on water and you see lit up billboards in the background for AT&T.
I'd rather have that sort of situation over what was done in RB though. In GH you don't see your characters eating KFC or using the AT&T phones, nor are they directly sponsored by them. I get to my second venue in RB and my 'band' is suddenly being sponsored by Hot Topic with a huge banner in the back, bigger than my bands banner. That just ruined it for me. Then, like Morari said, you end up having to play stuff like Paramore as part of that sponsorship. It makes this huge mental thing. I played Paramore in GH too, but it didn't come with this evil corporate stigma!
Oh and whoever thinks Hot Topic is a music-related corporate partner is just silly :P I've seen they're sales figures and business strategy from the inside, and trust me selling actual music (ie cd's or dvd's) is the last thing on their minds. Hell their former slogan "everything about the music" was changed because some stores stopped carrying.. *gasp* actual music! lol!
anywayy.... anyone have an answer to my question about editing a character?
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: decoyman on February 05, 2009, 01:39:30 PM
I don't think you can edit a character after he's created, EC. You can change facial hair or hair style, add tattoos, or whatever. But they don't have a "Plastic Surgeon" option in the character customization screen...
yet...
;)
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: BranDonk Kong on February 05, 2009, 06:29:08 PM
I haven't tried in RB2, but in RB1 (360), you can go back and change any aspect of your character after it's already been created.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: EasyCure on February 06, 2009, 10:00:12 AM
I don't think you can edit a character after he's created, EC. You can change facial hair or hair style, add tattoos, or whatever. But they don't have a "Plastic Surgeon" option in the character customization screen...
yet...
;)
Well the hair was my main concern. I went into one menu that gave me options to buy clothes and instruments, tattoos etc... but when i got to the hair options, it only let me pick from three styles; one bald, the one i currently had, and some hideous style.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Stratos on February 10, 2009, 09:45:38 PM
I don't think you can edit a character after he's created, EC. You can change facial hair or hair style, add tattoos, or whatever. But they don't have a "Plastic Surgeon" option in the character customization screen...
yet...
;)
Well the hair was my main concern. I went into one menu that gave me options to buy clothes and instruments, tattoos etc... but when i got to the hair options, it only let me pick from three styles; one bald, the one i currently had, and some hideous style.
Well, you could always create a new character, add him to your band and then remove the old one. It doesn't take long to earn enough money to buy the stuff you want. Especially when you are alreay pretty far in the World Tour.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: EasyCure on February 11, 2009, 09:24:02 AM
I don't think you can edit a character after he's created, EC. You can change facial hair or hair style, add tattoos, or whatever. But they don't have a "Plastic Surgeon" option in the character customization screen...
yet...
;)
Well the hair was my main concern. I went into one menu that gave me options to buy clothes and instruments, tattoos etc... but when i got to the hair options, it only let me pick from three styles; one bald, the one i currently had, and some hideous style.
Well, you could always create a new character, add him to your band and then remove the old one. It doesn't take long to earn enough money to buy the stuff you want. Especially when you are alreay pretty far in the World Tour.
I haven't earned label attention yet because I don't have enough stars in Boston. Why? Because i hate that on top of 2 or 3 songs to choos from (that mainly kinda suck), i have to do those mystery playlist in order to get stars/fans/etc and it gets annoying.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on February 11, 2009, 09:58:02 AM
Snoop Dogs songs coming to Rock Band (http://www.giantbomb.com/news/snoop-dogg-coming-to-rock-band/922/)
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: BranDonk Kong on February 11, 2009, 10:33:38 AM
Depending on the songs, that could actually be pretty awesome, if true...it could also be terrible...you could also just not worry about it ever, since it's DLC.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Stratos on February 12, 2009, 01:12:10 AM
Just thought I'd share with you a neat trick I used to get a 4gb SD card to work with my Wii w/o modding or hacking. I now have plenty of room for RB and GH DLC among other Wii stuff. http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=199730
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: decoyman on February 12, 2009, 08:26:03 AM
Thanks for sharing, Stratos... I saw that on the RB forums, but haven't tried it. I really just want to see what Ninty's storage solution thing is going to be before I drop $$$ on a new SD card.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Stratos on February 13, 2009, 12:01:17 AM
Nintendo's 'solution' is going to include SD cards in some fashion as I understand it. Newegg.com sells it for pretty cheap (and free shipping at the moment) and I got a discount bundle on the site that included a nice SD to USB hookup for my computer since I didn't have one already.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Khushrenada on February 13, 2009, 03:38:03 AM
Anyone checked out much of the new DLC? Other than the 20 freebies I got Crush Crush Crush though I may get Hit Me With Your Best Shot because I liked that on GH3.
And this month is supposed to be when we start getting the normal new DLC like the other systems (just in time to get the 'Ten' album which is coming soon I hope)
On the downloadable content, I haven't bothered with any of the free songs sonce I've never heard of any of them before. I may preview them to see if they're worth a spin but I have to be careful of the memory I use up.
On the actual buying side, I've got Wonderwall by Oasis, love that song and I think it gives a good challenge for guitar, Call Me by Blondie, Message in a Bottle by The Police and a couple Boston songs. I feel the DC content is better than GH's so that's why I went with RB2.
I'd love to see Don't Stand So Close to Me by The Police as dowloadable content. I'd also like to see some Guns & Roses. They put in Shackler's Revenge for RB2 but that's not an actual G&R song, it's an Axel Rose project.
Frankly, I love the 80's and would love to see more of that music in the game. Quiet Riot "Cum On Feel the Noize" would be hilarious. And with all the Beastie Boy songs I've seen why hasn't "(You Gotta) Fight For Your Right (To Party)" been included in something yet. I'd take some pop hits as well. It's so great to have some Billy Idol stuff now.
But most of all, I'd love to see some Pink Floyd included.
Also, RB's website mentioned that you could take songs from the original RB and transfer to the sequel. Is that possible with Wii? Because if so, that would be great and I wouldn't have to switch discs.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Stratos on February 13, 2009, 05:49:41 AM
Anyone checked out much of the new DLC? Other than the 20 freebies I got Crush Crush Crush though I may get Hit Me With Your Best Shot because I liked that on GH3.
And this month is supposed to be when we start getting the normal new DLC like the other systems (just in time to get the 'Ten' album which is coming soon I hope)
On the downloadable content, I haven't bothered with any of the free songs sonce I've never heard of any of them before. I may preview them to see if they're worth a spin but I have to be careful of the memory I use up.
On the actual buying side, I've got Wonderwall by Oasis, love that song and I think it gives a good challenge for guitar, Call Me by Blondie, Message in a Bottle by The Police and a couple Boston songs. I feel the DC content is better than GH's so that's why I went with RB2.
I'd love to see Don't Stand So Close to Me by The Police as dowloadable content. I'd also like to see some Guns & Roses. They put in Shackler's Revenge for RB2 but that's not an actual G&R song, it's an Axel Rose project.
Frankly, I love the 80's and would love to see more of that music in the game. Quiet Riot "Cum On Feel the Noize" would be hilarious. And with all the Beastie Boy songs I've seen why hasn't "(You Gotta) Fight For Your Right (To Party)" been included in something yet. I'd take some pop hits as well. It's so great to have some Billy Idol stuff now.
But most of all, I'd love to see some Pink Floyd included.
Also, RB's website mentioned that you could take songs from the original RB and transfer to the sequel. Is that possible with Wii? Because if so, that would be great and I wouldn't have to switch discs.
Sadly no. That was achieved by patching the older game and Wii cant really do patches. Plus where would you store it all? I'm just holding out hope for the RB 1 stuff to be offered as DLC for the Wii store.
Yes, Pink Floyd would be amazing. I want Dark Side of the Moon and The Wall. If I got DSotM I would set up to play it all as a setlist and then get a second TV to play Wizard of Oz. That would be sweet.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: decoyman on February 13, 2009, 08:33:26 AM
Wait, Khush, you mean to say...
you play video games???
let's swap friend codes! :D
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: EasyCure on February 13, 2009, 09:43:20 AM
Quote
On the actual buying side, I've got Wonderwall by Oasis, love that song and I think it gives a good challenge for guitar, Call Me by Blondie, Message in a Bottle by The Police and a couple Boston songs. I feel the DC content is better than GH's so that's why I went with RB2.
I'd love to see Don't Stand So Close to Me by The Police as dowloadable content. I'd also like to see some Guns & Roses. They put in Shackler's Revenge for RB2 but that's not an actual G&R song, it's an Axel Rose project.
Frankly, I love the 80's and would love to see more of that music in the game. Quiet Riot "Cum On Feel the Noize" would be hilarious. And with all the Beastie Boy songs I've seen why hasn't "(You Gotta) Fight For Your Right (To Party)" been included in something yet. I'd take some pop hits as well. It's so great to have some Billy Idol stuff now. [/QOTE]
Responding do the bolded parts in order they appeared:
I can picture how Message In A Bottle would play, but how does Call Me play, is it fun? I was on the fence about buying any DLC for RB cuz so far i find it too damn easy and i'm dragging my feet trying to unlock more songs, but i'd love to play Call Me and Hanging on the Telephone by Blondie..
Which version of Don't Stand So Close To Me? I'm hoping you mean the original...
80s = WIN
Beastie Boys = Fail. I love them, but they're songs are just no fun to play and its getting annoying having them in these games.
Rebel Yell > White Wedding.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: decoyman on February 13, 2009, 10:18:30 AM
Beastie Boys songs get better when it's your mom singing them. Too funny :D
GHWT has one serious step up on RB right now (even though overall I prefer RB's DLC)... THE RACONTEURS.
I'd really love to have some Supergrass (anything off their latest album, Diamond Hoo Ha, would be complete W!N), Cake ("The Distance" please?), Counting Crows (like, anything up-beat of theirs)...
Edit: Easycure just made me remember one of my others on my wishlist: Rilo Kiley! Not all of their songs would be great, and the words on a lot of them probably aren't appropriate for RB, but there are definitely a few songs that would work: Love and War (11/11/46), Portions for Foxes (great song, don't know if it could happen), A Man/Me/Then Jim (not an all-out rocking song, but great nonetheless).
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: NWR_DrewMG on February 13, 2009, 12:07:24 PM
DLC wishlist for me includes:
The Shins The Decemberists Bishop Allen
All of which would sell about 10% of what something like Weezer would. Combined.
So I'm not holding my breath.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: vudu on February 13, 2009, 02:13:51 PM
On the downloadable content, I haven't bothered with any of the free songs sonce I've never heard of any of them before. I may preview them to see if they're worth a spin but I have to be careful of the memory I use up.
You know you can delete songs you don't like, right? Just download them, play them once or twice and (if you don't like them) delete them. Not that big of a deal.
On the downloadable content, I haven't bothered with any of the free songs sonce I've never heard of any of them before. I may preview them to see if they're worth a spin but I have to be careful of the memory I use up.
You know you can delete songs you don't like, right? Just download them, play them once or twice and (if you don't like them) delete them. Not that big of a deal.
This. I think this is the first time I've ever seen Khush reference playing a video game on this site.
Dang it. I gave away my secret. I actually do play video games. I don't know why everyone is so shocked that. I express my love for F-Zero GX all the time. And I've mentioned things here and there but you probably don't remember.
Actually, the difference is for once I bought a game while it was still relatively brand new and people are still talking about it. Usually I buy a lot of games that time has passed on since they are cheaper. For instance, Chibi Robo DS is $5.00 at EBGames. And that's Canadian money and our dollar sucks again. That's awesome. But how many people are talking about Chibi Robo DS. That's why I'm usually more silent on games. I also bought Metroid Prime 3: Corruption a week ago and want to get started on that.
As for downloading and deleting, I guess it's a possibility but I hate waiting for the song to download. Downloads take at least 10 minutes and if I'm going to wait that long, I want it to be for something I'll enjoy and keep playing for awhile.
Onwards to Easycure:
Yes, of course, I mean the original Don't Stand So Close to Me by The Police. I didn't know there was another version. Another 80's fan. Awesome. Finally, I'm also tired of Beastie Boys. I was just commenting on the fact that the only song I really like of theirs was fight for your right to party. Although, Decoyman is right about the songs being fun to sing. I like to sing Sabotage in a William Shatner vibe and alternate between high and low pitches or soft talking and loud screaming. Since there is no pitch to worry about, you have a lot of freedom in how to sound.
I'll get back to you on Call Me since I've only sung it at the moment. >.> But I'm also going to get Hanging by the Telephone so I'll try 'em both out. As for Rebel Yell and White Wedding, it all depends how I feel that day. Sometimes I like over the other. White Wedding can be more subdued whereas Rebel Yell tears it up. But Rebel Yell did give me serious thought over which Rock game to buy. GH:WT's best assets are Rebel Yell, Hot For Teacher, and Beat It.
Finally, Decoyman:
Yeah sure. I guess I should share Friend Codes more often. So, how's this going to go down?
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Khushrenada on February 14, 2009, 03:48:39 AM
Also, getting back to Pink Floyd, besides the things Stratos mentioned, I can't believe "Wish You Were Here" hasn't been done yet either. Especially by Guitar Hero. I'd also recommend some songs from "The Division Bell." I find myself turning to that album more and more for Pink Floyd music. Musically, I think that might be their best effort.
And actually, let's add some Supertramp to the wishlist as well. Can't say I recognize anyone from Decoyman's wishlist. (Ok Counting Crows but that's all.) I'd like to see more Coldplay also. That's another GH has at the moment. Besides Shiver, they also released 3 downloadable songs on of the GH versions awhile back.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Spinnzilla on February 14, 2009, 10:11:19 AM
Pink Floyd are just like Led Zeppelin with their tracks; overly protective.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Khushrenada on February 14, 2009, 03:42:36 PM
That's what I figured, which is a shame.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: BranDonk Kong on February 14, 2009, 10:45:32 PM
I just played 'My Hero" and "This is a Call" (Foo Fighters) for the first time on RB2 today, which apparently I've had purchased for quite some time. I wish "I'll Stick Around" was on there too, even if it was just so I could play the drum intro over and over. Also, I hate to say it, but the Offspring's "Gone Away" would be a great addition.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: EasyCure on February 15, 2009, 01:40:01 AM
Khush there was a second version of Don't Stand So Close to me released on one of their greatest hits compilations. They actually planned on re-recording their best hits and remixing them but it never happened as the band was getting sour. The Don't Stand So Close to me remix is the only one that got done, and although it was the first version i heard of the song, the original grew on me more because of the awesome guitar work. I think the remix has better vocals though, but thats just me.
give it a listen Here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1hVOz_NwXI). Its a more mellow version.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Khushrenada on February 15, 2009, 04:39:36 AM
Awesome. Thanks for the link. It's hard to figure out what I think about that version since it really is quite different sounding than the original. It's almost an original song by itself. Definitely mellower but I don't think the mellow tone suits the subject matter. The original version definitely works with the lyrics.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: vudu on February 15, 2009, 12:09:19 PM
As for downloading and deleting, I guess it's a possibility but I hate waiting for the song to download. Downloads take at least 10 minutes and if I'm going to wait that long, I want it to be for something I'll enjoy and keep playing for awhile.
Why don't you start the download and then go write one of your overly-long posts? The download will be finished by the time you get back! ;D
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Stratos on February 16, 2009, 12:34:30 AM
I D/L songs when I read or play DS @ night. I miss my old internet connection that was probably 4x as fast...with un-capped bandwith. :'(
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on February 16, 2009, 01:41:44 AM
I D/L songs when I read or play DS @ night. I miss my old internet connection that was probably 4x as fast...with un-capped bandwith. :'(
Stratos, uncapped bandwidth is slowly going to be a thing of the past ever since time warner and comcast imposed some kind of restrictions and now all the other companies will fall in line and impose their own bandwidth cap which is sad. The worst ISPs are the ones that charge you extra for overusing bandwidth.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Stratos on February 16, 2009, 03:20:50 AM
I know and I weep. It just seems so backwards. But one of these years a company will go back to offering uncapped bandwidth as a selling point to steal customers from other companies.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Khushrenada on February 16, 2009, 03:43:13 AM
As for downloading and deleting, I guess it's a possibility but I hate waiting for the song to download. Downloads take at least 10 minutes and if I'm going to wait that long, I want it to be for something I'll enjoy and keep playing for awhile.
Why don't you start the download and then go write one of your overly-long posts? The download will be finished by the time you get back! ;D
Who invited you to this thread anyways? >:(
We both know that's inefficient anyways. I could download two songs by the time I'm done writing one of my posts.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Stratos on February 24, 2009, 12:22:47 AM
So are there any artists you guys are hoping to see sometime on RB or GH? I could really go for some Nightwish and Within Temptation.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Spinnzilla on February 24, 2009, 12:25:11 AM
Wish Artists: Elvis, Prince, Frank Zappa, Queensryche, Bad Brains, Buddy Holly, Hendrix on wii.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Stratos on February 24, 2009, 12:47:07 AM
Wish Artists: Elvis, Prince, Frank Zappa, Queensryche, Bad Brains, Buddy Holly, Hendrix on wii.
Elvis would be amazing. Do we know of any reasons that could keep it from either series? Legal issues or lost masters?
The lack of the Hendrix DLC on Wii is sad indeed. I'm hoping that they add it to the Wii version of GH5 to make up for it.
I actually wonder if Activision may try to adopt a similar model to Harmonix with heavy DLC emphasis. They mention a 'series reboot' is eminent with 5. That would bunk a lot of my arguments concerning DLC profit in other threads.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Spinnzilla on February 24, 2009, 11:03:53 AM
Yes, Elvis would be amazing. There's actually REAL country artists I want too like Waylon Jennings, hell even his son would be nice (He's borderline southern rock/country). Or Johnny Cash, but I don't know how much excitement doing anything but vocals you'd get out of it.
Oh, let's add some blues players while we're at it too, like Muddy Waters and B.B. King. or even T Bone Walker.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: decoyman on February 24, 2009, 11:12:11 AM
Well, they've said they'll be broadening their musical horizons w/ DLC in the future, so these wishes aren't totally out of the equation, Spinnz (that's your new nickname, ok? ok!).
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Stratos on February 27, 2009, 06:57:04 AM
Well, they've said they'll be broadening their musical horizons w/ DLC in the future, so these wishes aren't totally out of the equation, Spinnz (that's your new nickname, ok? ok!).
On the heels of the broadening musical genres announcement is the new one about Snoop Dogg coming to RB.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: decoyman on March 30, 2009, 04:08:11 PM
Well dang, after promises of parity, Wii is shafted w/ no Pearl Jam dlc this week. I was looking forward to it, too.
Hopefully we'll get it next week or the week after... Anybody else picking up Ten tomorrow?
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Stratos on March 30, 2009, 04:22:39 PM
But all of that is null considering the system update broke the SD DLC mechanic in RB and GH.
Wait, whut?
Do you just mean that these games don't benefit from the SDHC compatibility because they weren't coded with it in mind, or that the update somehow screwed up the "archive" (move automatically to SD card) feature?
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: vudu on March 30, 2009, 04:50:52 PM
I picked up Ten when it came out 18 years ago. (First CD I ever bought--no kidding!) Why is corporate America trying to resell me my childhood piece by piece?
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Stratos on March 30, 2009, 05:12:26 PM
But all of that is null considering the system update broke the SD DLC mechanic in RB and GH.
Wait, whut?
Do you just mean that these games don't benefit from the SDHC compatibility because they weren't coded with it in mind, or that the update somehow screwed up the "archive" (move automatically to SD card) feature?
Yes, it screwed it up completely. Ask Spinzilla but the GH and RB forums have people all over dealing with the issue.
It apparently also breaks games like Animal Crossing where you store stuff on the SD card. I tried to play around with it to get it to work by deleting the SD Channel's 'ghost file' or clearing off an abnormally large amount of my Wii, but to no avail. Wii update 4.0 is the worst piece of crap ever. I am planning to write a huge letter to RFN because they were celebrating it when I discovered some very important games were ruined by it and I will go as far as to say that I would rather they didn't give us a solution at all instead of this game breaking junk.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: decoyman on March 30, 2009, 05:13:44 PM
I picked up Ten when it came out 18 years ago. (First CD I ever bought--no kidding!) Why is corporate America trying to resell me my childhood piece by piece?
I really want the Super Duper Deluxe Edition but apparently it comes to A$500 which is insane. So instead I'll settle with the Deluxe edition because i need my MTV Unplugged fix.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: NWR_insanolord on March 31, 2009, 01:37:19 AM
I won't be picking up Ten but I will be picking up Don't Stop Believin'. It's like Harmonix knew I was having a party this weekend and wanted to help out.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Stratos on March 31, 2009, 02:53:31 PM
For those of you who wanted Ten on Wii it is here this week.
Here's the complete Wii list for the 31st:
Pearl Jam- “Once” Pearl Jam- “Even Flow” Pearl Jam- “Why Go” Pearl Jam- “Black” Pearl Jam- “Jeremy” Pearl Jam- “Oceans” Pearl Jam- “Porch” Pearl Jam- “Garden” Pearl Jam- “Deep” Pearl Jam- “Release” Pearl Jam- “Master/Slave”
Devo- “Through Being Cool” Faith No More- “We Care A Lot” Fall Out Boy- “I Don’t Care”
In case anyone is curious the 360/PS3 content is:
Journey - Don't Stop Believing Pat Benatar - Heartbreaker Glasvegas - Geraldine Von Bondies - C'mon C'mon SpongeBob SquarePants - I Can't Keep My Eyes Off of You SpongeBob SquarePants - The Best Day Ever SpongeBob SquarePants - Where's Gary?
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Morari on March 31, 2009, 06:05:39 PM
A whole bunch of Pearl Jam, yet no "Do the Evolution"? :(
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: decoyman on March 31, 2009, 06:46:03 PM
Thanks for the list, Stratos.
But what the... Spongebob Squarepants? Weird. :P
If they're into the weird tracks... give me my "Still Alive" from Portal, dang it!
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: blackfootsteps on March 31, 2009, 07:08:44 PM
A whole bunch of Pearl Jam, yet no "Do the Evolution"? :(
Ah it is the whole Ten album. To coincide with the re-release of that album in its remixed & remastered form. But yes, DTE would be awesome, wait until PJ re-release Yield (in the next 2 1/2 years) and then perhaps there will be Do the Evolution goodness.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Mop it up on March 31, 2009, 07:15:15 PM
That has to be the easiest song in Guitar Hero history. It's the only one I ever could get a 5-star rating on.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: vudu on April 01, 2009, 02:26:41 PM
You can't 5-star 'My Name is Jonas'? THAT is the easiest song in GH history.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Mop it up on April 01, 2009, 03:14:36 PM
Well, I guess I was exaggerating with the "in Guitar Hero history" part. I've played only Guitar Hero III, so I guess I should say that Even Flow is the easiest song in Guitar Hero III. You can't not beat it.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Stratos on April 01, 2009, 03:17:23 PM
Isn't 'My Name is Jonas' on GH3?
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: EasyCure on April 01, 2009, 03:18:33 PM
You can't 5-star 'My Name is Jonas'? THAT is the easiest song in GH history.
to be fair, if i'm sleepy when playying that song, all the hammer-ons and pull-offs mesh together in my blurred vision and i end up doing poorly, or failing that song all together.
I can't give my opinion on Even Flow's difficulty because i dont like pearl jam. Thats right, i said it.
pre-post edit: Damn stratos beat me to it, My Name Is Jonas IS on GHIII
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Mop it up on April 01, 2009, 03:30:31 PM
I don't know as I don't own the game, but if it is then I don't think I have played it. Which tier is it listed in?
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Khushrenada on April 02, 2009, 12:49:02 AM
GET THIS GUITAR HERO TALK OUT OF THIS THREAD!!!!!
THIS IS A SERIOUS THREAD FOR SERIOUS ROCK BAND DISCUSSION!!!
For instance, my microphone no longer works. What the heck? How does the microphone die? I always get a message saying to insert it and I've inserted it into every possible slot and combination and still nothing? My Mario Party 6 still works and it isn't nearly as heavy duty as the Rock Band mic. So disappointing.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Stratos on April 02, 2009, 03:55:13 AM
This is what I see in regards to your serious thread talk.
On the matter of your mic issues here is a quote on the RB Forums Troubleshooting Thread:
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Microphone Not Recognized: The microphone will not be recognized unless a standard console controller is plugged in. This is because a controller is required to choose options for the vocalist. If you have two vocalists (and therefore two microphones), you will need two controllers plugged in.
EAs Microphone Support page (http://support.ea.com/cgi-bin/ea.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_li=&p_sid=VoO1Miuj&p_sp=&p_faqid=18414&p_iid=0&p_created=&p_prod=&p_cat=&p_cv=&p_pv=&p_prods=&p_cats=&prod_lvl1=&prod_lvl2=&prod_lvl3=&cat_lvl1=&cat_lvl2=&cat_lvl3=&p_hidden_prods=&p_search_text=&p_new_search=&p_accessibility=&p_page=&p_lva=18414&nextlink=)
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: vudu on April 02, 2009, 02:17:15 PM
This is what I see in regards to your serious thread talk.
On the matter of your mic issues here is a quote on the RB Forums Troubleshooting Thread:
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Microphone Not Recognized: The microphone will not be recognized unless a standard console controller is plugged in. This is because a controller is required to choose options for the vocalist. If you have two vocalists (and therefore two microphones), you will need two controllers plugged in.
EAs Microphone Support page (http://support.ea.com/cgi-bin/ea.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_li=&p_sid=VoO1Miuj&p_sp=&p_faqid=18414&p_iid=0&p_created=&p_prod=&p_cat=&p_cv=&p_pv=&p_prods=&p_cats=&prod_lvl1=&prod_lvl2=&prod_lvl3=&cat_lvl1=&cat_lvl2=&cat_lvl3=&p_hidden_prods=&p_search_text=&p_new_search=&p_accessibility=&p_page=&p_lva=18414&nextlink=)
Are you sure that isn't advice for the 360? Do I need to plug in a Gamecube controller? What's a standard controller? The Wiimote? It works. I can use it to flip through the menu and enter certain areas unless that are requires a microphone which then tells me the message that the microphone is not plugged in.
Oh. And thank you Vudu. :)
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Stratos on April 04, 2009, 01:43:09 AM
Khush, I found it under the Wii section but that specific matter may not be your problem.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Stratos on April 06, 2009, 11:42:26 PM
4/7 Update only 464 more to go before system parity.
Wii Journey- “Don’t Stop Believing” Pat Benatar- “Heartbreaker” The Von Bondies- “C’mon C’mon” Glasvegas- “Geraldine” Foo Fighters- “DOA” Foo Fighters- “This is a Call” Foo Fighters- “Times Like These” Oasis- “Rock ‘n’ Roll Star” Spongebob Squarepants- “The Best Day Ever Song” Spongebob Squarepants- “Where’s Gary?” Spongebob Squarepants- “I Can’t Keep My Eyes Off of You”
360/PS3 Black Tide - Warriors of Time Bullet for My Valentine - Waking the Demon The Shins - New Slang
Toby Keith - Beer for My Horses Toby Keith - I Love This Bar Toby Keith - She’s a Hottie Toby Keith - Should’ve Been a Cowboy Toby Keith - Who’s Your Daddy? Toby Keith - How Do You Like Me Now
I'm glad the Journey song in on Wii now. I may get one of the SpongeBob songs for my little sister since she plays it with me a bunch.
Also, there is a work around to get 4gb SD cards working again apparently.
This thread on the RB forums details how it is done. (http://www.rockband.com/forums/showthread.php?t=131750)
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Khushrenada on April 07, 2009, 01:00:22 AM
Journey and Benatar? Alright! Toby Kieth? You can keep him 360.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: decoyman on April 07, 2009, 11:11:34 AM
Wasn't that song, "Beer for my Horses" with Willie Nelson? If so, I am in*. Willie Nelson is pretty cool.
* well, when it comes to Wii at least.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Stratos on April 07, 2009, 05:41:59 PM
For the past few weeks we seem to be on a steady lag on just a week for getting the new stuff from the HD consoles.
Ten was a week late and this weeks stuff was last weeks new stuff on the HD front plus a few older ones. I'm going to guess that is now the standard pattern. Last weeks new stuff plus 3-6ish from the backlog. So I predict Wii will get this stuff next week. Let's see if I'm right.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Spinnzilla on April 07, 2009, 08:06:09 PM
When are GH and RB going to pick good country? I thought "On the Road Again" was a good sign of things to come and then BLAM! Brookes & Dune, Rascal Flatts and Brad Paisley. The new country stuff that GH and RB continue to pump out is so disappointing. Where's Cash? Where's Hank Williams? Where's Waylon Jennings?
c'mon devs.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Stratos on April 07, 2009, 10:09:44 PM
I want the country song "If Your Goin' Through Hell". I like that one.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: blackfootsteps on April 08, 2009, 07:38:27 AM
I can't give my opinion on Even Flow's difficulty because i dont like pearl jam. Thats right, i said it.
You are dead to me ;) Actually EF is one of my least favourite Pearl Jam songs. Thrashed much.
heh.. i dn't even know who you are ;)
Just messin, that was harsh. I used to be able to tolerate Pearl Jam growing up, when my brother would listen to them, but in high school i had a friend/bandmate that thought they were gods gift to music or something. I couldn't stand playing with him because he constantly wanted to cover Pearl Jam or compare other artists to Pearl Jame etc. At band practice i'd try to play their stuff, just to make the dude shut up for a few mins, but i swear.. if he told me my timing was off (by a milisecond..) I woulda ended up punching him in the face and breaking all his Pearl Jam dvds
So...Eventually i got really sick of it and started loathing the band to the point i'd get a migrane if i ever heard their songs again. To this day i can't listen to them without cringing.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: decoyman on April 08, 2009, 10:04:30 AM
The only cringe-worthy part of a Pearl Jam song I can think of is in Jeremy, when Vedder goes off key right at the end, in the "Ooh-ooh" part. *shudder*
Otherwise, I'm not a huge fan, but I dig 'em all the same. EC, you're wrong. :D
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: EasyCure on April 08, 2009, 10:23:31 AM
I'm wrong for not giving an opinion on Easy Flows difficulty or i'm wrong for never liking the band that much in the first place, then hating them later in life?
i just wanna make sure ;)
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: decoyman on April 08, 2009, 10:45:42 AM
I was actually referring to your Dalton avatar (reg-Dalton > mustache-Dalton). Was I not clear? I apologize.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: EasyCure on April 08, 2009, 11:41:13 AM
I was actually referring to your Dalton avatar (reg-Dalton > mustache-Dalton). Was I not clear? I apologize.
You talk about Dalton avatars as though you are an expert but I don't see you sporting a Dalton avatar. I question the validity of your arguement.
DALTWNED
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Stratos on April 13, 2009, 11:36:35 PM
Here's the week's DLC update, its the rest of Guns N' Roses Chinese Democracy. “Shackler’s Revenge” is not part of the update because it comes on the RB2 disc. Also, there are no backlog songs for the Wii this week apparently.
Chinese Democracy Better Street of Dreams If the World There Was a Time Catcher in the Rye Scraped Riad N’ the Bedouins Sorry I.R.S. Madagascar This I Love Prostitute
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: decoyman on April 14, 2009, 11:54:05 AM
Here's the week's DLC update, its the rest of Guns N' Roses Chinese Democracy. “Shackler’s Revenge” is not part of the update because it comes on the RB2 disc. Also, there are no backlog songs for the Wii this week apparently.
Chinese Democracy Better Street of Dreams If the World There Was a Time Catcher in the Rye Scraped Riad N’ the Bedouins Sorry I.R.S. Madagascar This I Love Prostitute
As is old Guns N' Roses isn't bad enough...
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: EasyCure on April 14, 2009, 07:18:21 PM
I'm being lazy and would like someone to answer this for me:
Is Master Of Puppets featured on either Rock Band 2 or Guitar Hero: World Tour as DLC?
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Spinnzilla on April 15, 2009, 12:00:17 AM
anybody see the Beatles RB box art?
It's better than GH: Metallica's, but it still sucks.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: BranDonk Kong on April 15, 2009, 12:31:26 AM
EasyCure - No. It's only on GH Metallica. Chinese Democracy...is terrible, though Madagascar is a decent song (it's the song they played at the end of the VMAs on MTV many years ago).
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Spinnzilla on April 15, 2009, 06:50:48 AM
And you guys get Toby Keith in a week or two. I find it strange that Harmonix picked really awful DLC for once, while GH has Steely Dan and Motohead coming Thursday and next week.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: EasyCure on April 15, 2009, 10:13:13 AM
Dangit thats what i was afraid of. A friend is visiting next week and wanted to play that on GH/RB but i wasn't sure if it was DLC or GH:Metallica only.. maybe i can rent the game just to make him happy..
if not screw it, we'll still have a moist time rocking out to better bands!
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: blackfootsteps on April 16, 2009, 07:00:13 PM
I love Chinese Democracy and will get, get it when RB2 comes out here.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Stratos on April 27, 2009, 07:35:25 PM
4/28 Update - 360-PS3-Wii Parity!
Next week’s Rock Band Music Store lineup will feature ten tracks from Nothing’s Shocking with “Mountain Song” from Nothing’s Shocking already featured on the Rock Band 2 soundtrack. The DLC album includes the following tracks:
Tracks:
“Up the Beach” “Ocean Size” “Had a Dad” “Ted, Just Admit It…” “Standing in the Shower… Thinking” “Summertime Rolls” “Idiots Rule” “Jane Says” “Thank You Boys” “Pig’s in Zen”
In addition Wii also gets the following:
Megadeth “Wake Up Dead” Megadeth “The Conjuring” Megadeth “Devil’s Island” Megadeth “Good Mourning/Black Friday” Megadeth “Bad Omen” Megadeth “I Ain’t Superstitious” Megadeth “My Last Words” Megadeth “Sleepwalker” The Police “Truth Hits Everybody” Oasis “Don’t Look Back in Anger”
I think I missed last weeks so I'll put that here too
Release Date: Tuesday, April 21, 2009
For Wii:
Toby Keith “Should’ve Been a Cowboy” Toby Keith “Beer for My Horses” Toby Keith “Who’s Your Daddy” Toby Keith “How Do You Like Me Now” Toby Keith “She’s a Hottie” Toby Keith “I Love This Bar” Yngwie Malmsteen “Red Devil” Yngwie Malmsteen “Damnation Game” Yngwie Malmsteen "Caprici di Diablo” The Shins “New Slang” Black Tide “Warriors of Time” Bullet for My Valentine " Waking the Demon”
For the HD Systems:
REO Speedwagon - Riding the Storm Out REO Speedwagon - Roll with the Changes REO Speedwagon - Take It on the Run Styx - Blue Collar Man (Long Nights) Styx - Renegade Styx - Too Much Time On My Hands Styx / REO Speedwagon - Can't Stop Rockin' Hautewerk - Alone in My Head Hautewerk - I Know Where You Came From Hautewerk - Stop Start Again
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Stratos on May 04, 2009, 08:39:05 PM
DLC Update May 5th
Wii Tracks: REO Speedwagon “Ridin’ the Storm Out” REO Speedwagon “Roll with the Changes” REO Speedwagon “Take It on the Run” Styx “Blue Collar Man (Long Nights)” Styx “Renegade” Styx “Too Much Time On My Hands” Styx/REO Speedwagon “Can’t Stop Rockin’” Hautewerk “Alone in My Head” Hautewerk “I Know Where You Came From” Hautewerk “Stop Start Again” The Clash “Complete Control” Devo “Girl U Want” The Ramones “Teenage Lobotomy” All That Remains “Chiron” All That Remains “This Calling” All That Remains “Two Weeks” System of a Down “B.Y.O.B.” System of a Down “Toxicity”
And for the HD consoles: Franz Ferdinand - Do You Want To Franz Ferdinand - Lucid Dreams Franz Ferdinand - Take Me Out Alien Ant Farm - Smooth Criminal Allman Bros - Blue Sky Allman Bros - Midnight Rider Distillers - Drain the Blood Luscious Jackson - Naked Eye Prong - Idealistic Types Prong - The Banishment
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Caliban on May 04, 2009, 08:41:02 PM
Awwww, no Mr.Roboto from Styx.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: EasyCure on May 05, 2009, 12:18:25 PM
GIRL U WANT!? **** yeah!
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Stratos on May 11, 2009, 03:13:30 PM
May 11th DLC
Wii: Siouxsie & The Banshees - Hong Kong Garden Siouxsie & The Banshees - Kiss Them For Me Siouxsie & The Banshees - The Killing Jar Locksley - All Over Again Locksley - Don’t Make Me Wait Locksley - She Does Silversun Pickups - Melatonin Silversun Pickups - Well Thought Out Twinkles Duran Duran - Girls On Film Duran Duran - Rio Buckcherry - Rescue Me Mötley Crüe - Face Down in the Dirt Psychedelic Furs - Pretty in Pink Sixx:A.M. - Life is Beautiful The Pretenders - Brass in Pocket The Janitors - Get Your Rock On
HD: Social Distortion - Bad Luck Social Distortion - Ring of Fire Social Distortion - Story of My Life Disturbed - Stricken Disturbed - Stupify Steely Dan - Black Friday Steely Dan - My Old School Elvis Costello - Radio Radio The Replacements - Kids Don't Follow
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Morari on May 11, 2009, 03:18:27 PM
Siouxsie and the Banshees? Sweet.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Stratos on May 11, 2009, 03:22:57 PM
I'm pumped for some Duran Duran myself.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: EasyCure on May 13, 2009, 09:11:53 AM
Wii:Psychedelic Furs - Pretty in Pink Sixx:A.M. - Life is Beautiful
HD: Social Distortion - Bad Luck Social Distortion - Ring of Fire Social Distortion - Story of My Life
I like the song "Pretty In Pink" but thats a really odd choice for this game, in my eyes anyway. I just don't like playing to the slow songs I suppose..
With that said, why do they insist on having the more country-esque Social D songs on these games rather than the more fast paced punk songs they put out? Theres SO many awesome songs they could pick from but no, they go with the country/blues style tunes. Outta those three, the Cash cover is probably the fastest playing one and thats not saying much. Might as well put "Ball & Chain" on the DLC list next geez. Gimme some "1945," "Let It Be Me," "It's the Law," or even some "Reach for the Sky" for fucks sake!
/inner punk rant
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Stratos on May 19, 2009, 10:33:34 PM
May 19th DLC
For Wii Franz Ferdinand - Take Me Out Franz Ferdinand - Do You Want To Franz Ferdinand - Lucid Dreams Alien Ant Farm - Smooth Criminal The Allman Brothers Band - Blue Sky The Allman Brothers Band - Midnight Rider The Distillers - Drain the Blood Luscious Jackson - Naked Eye Prong - Idealistic Types Prong - The Banishment The Knack - My Sharona* Coheed & Cambria - Ten Speed (Of God's Blood & Burial)* The B-52s - Roam Buzzcocks - Ever Fallen in Love* The Runaways - Cherry Bomb* T-Rex - Bang a Gong* Grateful Dead - Casey Jones Grateful Dead - China Cat Sunflower Grateful Dead - Franklin’s Tower Grateful Dead - I Need A Miracle Grateful Dead - Sugar Magnolia Grateful Dead - Truckin' At the Gates - Blinded by Fear Evile - Thraser The Haunted - D.O.A.
For HD Systems
Alice Cooper 6 Pack
“Under My Wheels” (Live) “I’m Eighteen” (Live) “Billion Dollar Babies” (Live) “School’s Out” (Live) “Poison” “Vengeance is Mine”
And the Taking Back Sunday 3 Pack
“What’s It Feel Like to Be a Ghost?” “Liar” “MakeDamnSure”
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: BranDonk Kong on May 20, 2009, 12:35:00 AM
DLC sure has been sucking lately.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: EasyCure on May 20, 2009, 02:28:53 PM
For Wii The Knack - My Sharona* Buzzcocks - Ever Fallen in Love*
I think those are AWESOME choices. I actually just learned how to play most of My Sharona on my new (used) drum-set, so i'm pretty happy i get to have my friends/family rock out with me to this since its been in my head alot lately. As for Buzzcocks, thats just awesome. Sure there's tons of covers of that song out there that would've been a better quality (for instance Anti-Flag did a GREAT cover) but the original is still a nice choice. I'll be downloading these for sure.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Stratos on May 26, 2009, 06:05:25 PM
5-26
Console Parity This Week!
Ministry “Cuz U R Next” Ministry “LiesLiesLies” Ministry “The Great Satan” The Zombies “She’s Not There” The Zombies “Tell Her No” The Cranberries “Linger”
On top of these songs for all three systems, the following are coming to the Wii library Wednesday or Thursday:
Airbourne “Runnin’ Wild” Bad Religion “Sorrow” Bang Camaro “Rock Rebellion” David Bowie “Heroes” * David Bowie “Queen *****” * Count Zero “Shake” The Cult “She Sells Sanctuary” DevilDriver “Clouds Over California” Dream Theater “Constant Motion” Freezepop “Sprode” GLaDOS “Still Alive” Hinder “Use Me” Killswitch Engage “My Curse” Machine Head “Aesthetics of Hate” The Monkees “Last Train to Clarksville” * The Police “Can’t Stand Losing You” The Police “Roxanne” The Police “Synchronicity II” Sweet “Action” *
(*Denotes cover track)
Price: $2.00 (200 Wii Points) per track “Still Alive” by GLaDoS is a free track.
Yay for getting Still Alive!
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: EasyCure on May 26, 2009, 06:44:50 PM
The Zombies “She’s Not There”
if they had the Santana cover, then i'd d/l it but the original isn't as awesome (on guitar).
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: BranDonk Kong on May 27, 2009, 01:57:06 AM
Once again, disappointed. When I read the Cranberries, I almost had a good feeling, because then I read Zombies, which tricked me into thinking the song "Zombie" from the Cranbberries was coming. It's Linger. Fucking Linger. The game, unless I'm mistaken is called ROCK Band. Pretty cool that Wii is getting Still Alive though...perhaps a hint that Portal is on it's way?
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: vudu on May 27, 2009, 01:59:25 PM
Ministry “Cuz U R Next” Ministry “LiesLiesLies” Ministry “The Great Satan”
Ministry is amazing, but what's with the lame selection? Rio Grande Blood is horrible. Dip into the early catalog!!
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Stratos on June 16, 2009, 09:04:21 PM
6/16
About time Evanescence showed up. Too bad there was only one song from Fallen. Only on HD consoles this week though... :'( Here's hoping for it coming next week.
For HD Evanescence - Bring Me to Life Evanescence - Call Me When You’re Sober Evanescence - Weight of the World Spinal Tap - Back from the Dead Spinal Tap - Rock ‘n’ Roll Nightmare Spinal Tap - Saucy Jack Spinal Tap - Warmer Than Hell
For Wii Avenged Sevenfold “Critical Acclaim” Ben Harper and Relentless7 “Shimmer & Shine” Brad Paisley “Mud on the Tires” Brooks & Dunn “Hillbillie Deluxe” Coheed and Cambria “A Favor House Atlantic” Coheed and Cambria “The Running Free” Crooked X “Rock & Roll Dream” + Dierks Bentley “Free & Easy (Down the Road I Go)” Dixie Chicks “Sin Wagon” The Material “Moving to Seattle” + Maximo Park “Girls Who Play Guitars” Miranda Lambert “Gunpowder & Lead” Motley Crue “Down at the Whisky” The Myriad “A Clean Shot” + Phish “Wilson (live)” Rush “Closer to the Heart” Shinedown “Devour” Shinedown “Junkies for Fame” Shooter Jennings “Steady at the Wheel” Soundgarden “Jesus Christ Pose” Soundgarden “Pretty Noose” TV on the Radio “Wolf Like Me” Them Terribles “Bullets & Guns” + Trapt “Who’s Going Home With You Tonight?”
Songs with a + only cost 100 points.
6/9 Backlog I missed reporting.
Blur - Beetlebum (cover) Die Toten Hosen - Hier Kommt Alex Disturbed - Indestructible Disturbed - Perfect Insanity H-BlockX - Countdown to Insanity Iron Maiden - Aces High (live) Iron Maiden - 2 Minutes to Midnight Iron Maiden - The Trooper Iron Maiden - Wasted Years Iron Maiden - The Number of the Beast Iron Maiden - Run to the Hills Iron Maiden - Can I Play With Madness Iron Maiden - The Clairvoyant Iron Maiden - Powerslave Iron Maiden - Hallowed Be Thy Name (live) Iron Maiden - Fear of the Dark (live) Iron Maiden - Iron Maiden (live) Juli - Perfekte Welle Les Wampas - Manu Chao The Mother Hips - Red Tandy The Mother Hips - Time-Sick Son of a Grizzly Pleymo - New Wave Stephen & the Colberts - Charlene* Tokio Hotel - Monsoon Yeah Yeah Yeahs - Date With the Night
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: NWR_insanolord on June 16, 2009, 10:27:21 PM
I usually only buy Rock Band DLC as it comes out but I've got 2 free songs I got from the current Pepsi promotion and I looked back through the whole selection to pick a couple and was amazed at how many tracks they've built up over the past couple years.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Stratos on June 16, 2009, 10:31:51 PM
I think they are near the 700 song mark.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Stratos on June 22, 2009, 06:15:34 PM
6-22 Update
Bummer we didn't get Evanescence right away. I was really looking foreward to those songs. Hopefully next week.
For Wii: The Cab “One of THOSE Nights” Dashboard Confessional “Hands Down” Dead Kennedys “California Uber Alles” Dead Kennedys “Holiday in Cambodia” Dead Kennedys “Police Truck” Free “All Right Now” Nine Inch Nails “Burn” Nine Inch Nails “Capital G” Nine Inch Nails “Last” Scars on Broadway “They Say” Staind “This Is It” Testament “Electric Crown” thenewno2 “Yomp”+ Weezer “Dreamin’” Weezer “The Greatest Man That Ever Lived” Weezer “Troublemaker”
For HD Systems: A Day to Remember “The Downfall of Us All” Bad Religion “21st Century Digital Boy” Chiodos “I Didn’t Say I Was Powerful, I Said I Was a Wizard” Escape the Fate “The Flood” Underoath “Reinventing Your Exit” Maroon 5 “Little of Your Time” Maroon 5 “Makes Me Wonder” Maroon 5 “Wake Up Call” Pearl Jam “Brother” Pearl Jam “Alive (Live: Drop in the Park)” Pearl Jam “State of Love and Trust (Live: Drop in the Park)”
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: EasyCure on June 23, 2009, 10:11:49 AM
Stratos, are those Dead Kennedys songs covers or originals. i NEED to know (and i'm too lazy/sick/tired to look it up myself, so please update me).
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Stratos on June 23, 2009, 04:59:31 PM
I'm checking now, but I want to say they are not covers. I'll be back in a second.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Stratos on June 23, 2009, 05:00:28 PM
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(All tracks are original master recordings.)
Yes, they are! :)
I am happy for getting these songs.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Morari on June 23, 2009, 09:26:52 PM
If they're covers they'll have a * by the name, or say "As Made Famous by"
You mean in game or when Stratos posts the new info? Cuz I know he's good at making sure to indicate which tracks are covers and its just kinda hard to believe they were able to use an original DK track, so i had to make sure (without giving it any effort).
This is awesome news, i think i need me some wii points damn!
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: BranDonk Kong on June 25, 2009, 10:13:24 AM
EasyCure: http://www.rockband.com/songs/californiauberalles (http://www.rockband.com/songs/californiauberalles) http://www.rockband.com/songs/holidayincambodia (http://www.rockband.com/songs/holidayincambodia) http://www.rockband.com/songs/policetruck (http://www.rockband.com/songs/policetruck) Bad news, they're covers. I'M SORRY! OH PLEASE GOD FORGIVE ME! /wrists
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: EasyCure on June 25, 2009, 11:22:20 AM
haha figures. They're singer would probably never allow it. If anyones gonna hear it from me, its gonna be stratos not you! Besides you're too young and better at drums than i, how can i be mad at you? ;)
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Stratos on June 25, 2009, 05:18:01 PM
No, the post from the Harmonix guys said they were original tracks. I'll look again because maybe they made the mistake.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Stratos on June 25, 2009, 05:19:32 PM
Here is the whole post from HMX Sean:
Quote from: HMX Sean
Release Date: Tuesday, June 23, 2009
** Dates for Rock Band game tracks are tentative and subject to change **
Tracks:
The Cab “One of THOSE Nights” Dashboard Confessional “Hands Down” Dead Kennedys “California Uber Alles” Dead Kennedys “Holiday in Cambodia” Dead Kennedys “Police Truck” Free “All Right Now” Nine Inch Nails “Burn” Nine Inch Nails “Capital G” Nine Inch Nails “Last” Scars on Broadway “They Say” Staind “This Is It” Testament “Electric Crown” thenewno2 “Yomp”+ Weezer “Dreamin’” Weezer “The Greatest Man That Ever Lived” Weezer “Troublemaker”
(All tracks are original master recordings.)
Price: $2.00 (200 Wii Points) per track $1.00 (100 Wii Points) per track
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Stratos on June 25, 2009, 05:20:59 PM
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"Holiday in Cambodia" as performed by Dead Kennedys courtesy of Manifesto Written by: Jello Biafra, East Bay Ray, Klaus Flouride, Ted, and Dead Kennedys published by DECAY MUSIC (BMI), administered by Bug
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"Police Truck" as performed by Dead Kennedys (courtesy of) written by Jello Biafra, East Bay Ray, Klaus Flouride, Darren Henley published by DECAY MUSIC (BMI), administered by Bug
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"California Uber Alles" as performed by Dead Kennedys courtesy of Manifesto Written by Jello Biafra, East Bay Ray, Klaus Flouride, John Greenway and Dead Kennedys published by DECAY MUSIC (BMI), administered by Bug
As far as I can tell this means they are not covers.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: EasyCure on June 25, 2009, 09:09:23 PM
Good job Stratos!
Bad job Brandogg. I don't care how good at drums you are, you're dead!
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: BranDonk Kong on June 25, 2009, 11:45:11 PM
It's weird though - if you go to the RockBand website and look at the track list, most songs list a bunch of info, but the covers do not, and they're the only ones that say "as performed by". That's why I posted the links. You can preview the songs in the game though, at least in the 360 and PS3 versions, which would answer your question.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Stratos on June 25, 2009, 11:49:07 PM
You can preview them in the Wii version as well. I don't have any points so I can't D/L one at the moment though I like Holiday in Cambodia.
One of the songs has a lot of information and what not, but the others do not. Maybe they only did that info for the one? It is a mini bios and everything.
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: EasyCure on June 26, 2009, 10:30:30 AM
I might have enough wii points left over for one of the songs, but i'll end up with all 3 eventually especially if they ARE the originals. Police Truck is the shiiiiiit!
Title: Re: Rock Band 2?
Post by: Stratos on July 01, 2009, 04:36:19 PM
6/30 DLC
Still no Evanescence for Wii :-\
For Wii: Deep Purple - Space Truckin’ George Thorogood - Bad to the Bone Harvey Danger - Cream and Bastards Rise In This Moment - Forever Lacuna Coil - Closer Lacuna Coil - Swamped Mission of Burma - Mica Mission of Burma - That’s How I Escaped My Certain Fate Mission of Burma - That’s When I Reach for My Revolver The Offspring - Gone Away The Offspring - Pretty Fly (For a White Guy) Panic at the Disco - She’s a Handsome Woman Pearl Jam - Brother Pearl Jam - Alive (Live: Drop in the Park) Pearl Jam - State of Love and Trust (Live: Drop in the Park) Snow Patrol -Take Back the City
For HD Systems:
Foreigner - Blue Morning, Blue Day Foreigner - Feels Like the First Time Foreigner - Headknocker Black Rebel Motorcycle Club - Weapon Of Choice Thrice - Image of the Invisible Dear and the Headlights - Sweet Talk The Devil Wears Prada - Hey John, What’s Your Name Again?
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Post by: BranDonk Kong on July 01, 2009, 11:51:22 PM
Rock Band and Guitar Hero DLC has been crap for many months now...didn't notice Gone Away was released though, I'll have to get that one, just for the drum intro if anything.
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Post by: NWR_insanolord on July 02, 2009, 12:23:30 AM
If you like Rock Band DLC and Pepsi you should check out the current promotion. 5 of the 6 codes I've entered have won me free DLC tracks.
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Post by: Stratos on July 02, 2009, 12:32:53 AM
And it works with the Wii version as well?
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Post by: NWR_insanolord on July 02, 2009, 01:33:35 AM
Yeah, you pick the system and the song and they give you a code to enter.
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Post by: BeautifulShy on July 08, 2009, 02:34:01 AM
Don't want to let this DLC go unreported.
For Wii Behemoth “Conquer All” Black Dahlia Murder “What a Horrible Night to Have a Curse” Cannibal Corpse “Hammer Smashed Face” God Forbid “Empire of the Gun” Job for a Cowboy “Embedded” Marilyn Manson “Disposable Teens” Slayer “Black Magic” Whitechapel "This Is Exile” Green Day “21 Guns” Green Day “East Jesus Nowhere” Green Day “Know Your Enemy” The Offspring “Self Esteem” Screaming Trees “Nearly Lost You” Static-X “Push It” The Darkest of the Hillside Thickets “Shhh….” + Jonathan Coulton “Skullcrusher Mountain” + MC Frontalot “Livin’ at the Corner of Dude Catastrophe”+ Plain White T’s “Natural Disaster” Hot Hot Heat “Bandages" Kasabian “Shoot the Runner” Sleater-Kinney “You’re No Rock N’ Roll Fun” The Stone Roses “Love Spreads” The Presidents of the USA “Dune Buggy” The Presidents of the USA “Feather Pluckn” The Presidents of the USA “Ladybug” Crooked X “Gone” + Against Me! “Stop!” Lamb of God “Laid to Rest” Evanescence "Bring Me to Life" Evanescence "Call Me When You're Sober" Evanescence "Weight of the World" Spinal Tap "Back From the Dead" Spinal Tap "Rock 'n' Roll Nightmare" Spinal Tap "Saucy Jack" Spinal Tap "Warmer Than Hell" Maroon 5 "Little of Your Time" Maroon 5 "Makes Me Wonder" Maroon 5 "Wake Up Call" A Day to Remember "The Downfall of Us All" Bad Religion "21st Century (Digital Boy)" Chiodos "I Didn't Say I Was Powerful, I Said I was a Wizard" Escape the Fate "The Flood" Underoath "Reinventing Your Exit"
For the HD systems
Green Day “21 Guns” Green Day “East Jesus Nowhere” Green Day “Know Your Enemy” Behemoth “Conquer All” Black Dahlia Murder “What a Horrible Night to Have a Curse” Cannibal Corpse “Hammer Smashed Face” God Forbid “Empire of the Gun” Job for a Cowboy “Embedded” Marilyn Manson “Disposable Teens” Slayer “Black Magic” Whitechapel “This Is Exile”
Found it here (http://www.rockband.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2673351#post2673351)
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Post by: EasyCure on July 08, 2009, 09:34:50 AM
Boooo bad choice for Bad Religion!
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Post by: Morari on July 08, 2009, 10:13:19 AM
The Darkest of the Hillside Thickets and Jonathan Coulton? Those are certainly names I would have never expected to see. "Shhh" is an alright song, but I'd much rather see The Innsmouth Look. Those Lovecraft references get me every time.
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Post by: BranDonk Kong on July 08, 2009, 11:16:49 AM
More weak ass DLC. Green Day gets worse every time they release an album.
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Post by: kraken613 on July 11, 2009, 04:33:14 AM
My addiction to this game is back... And I am kinda glad... Nothing like playing Rock Band for 5 straight hours with your closest friends!
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Post by: Stratos on July 11, 2009, 01:29:46 PM
My addiction to this game is back... And I am kinda glad... Nothing like playing Rock Band for 5 straight hours with your closest friends!
I need to get my equipment out again. I told myself I'd really getinto it again once Evanescence came out on Wii. I just need some money for points.
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Post by: Stratos on July 13, 2009, 07:40:12 PM
7/14 Update
For HD systems Big Dipper “All Going Out Together” Big Dipper “She’s Fetching” Big Dipper “Younger Bums” Judas Priest “Dissident Aggressor (Live)” Judas Priest “Eat Me Alive (Live)” Judas Priest “Prophecy (Live)” The Dead Weather “Hang You From the Heavens” The Dead Weather “No Hassle Night” The Dead Weather “Treat Me Like Your Mother”
For Wii Foreigner “Blue Morning, Blue Day” Foreigner “Feels Like the First Time” Foreigner “Headknocker” The Killers “Mr. Brightside” The Killers “Smile Like You Mean It” The Killers “Spaceman” The Pixies “Crackity Jones” The Pixies “Dead” The Pixies “Debaser” The Pixies “Gouge Away” The Pixies “Here Comes Your Man” The Pixies “Hey” The Pixies “I Bleed” The Pixies “La La Love You” The Pixies “Monkey Gone to Heaven” The Pixies “Mr. Grieves” The Pixies “No 13 Baby” The Pixies “Silver” The Pixies “Tame” The Pixies “There Goes My Gun” Thrice “Image of the Invisible” Black Rebel Motorcycle Club “Weapon of Choice” Dear and the Headlights “Sweet Talk” The Devil Wears Prada “Hey John, What’s Your Name Again?”
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Post by: NWR_insanolord on July 14, 2009, 09:43:38 AM
I'm beginning to think this recent lack of good DLC is a conspiracy with Pepsi so people don't find anything good and they don't have to pay out on winning codes from the promotion.
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Post by: EasyCure on July 14, 2009, 11:17:03 AM
I'm beginning to think this recent lack of good DLC is a conspiracy with Pepsi so people don't find anything good and they don't have to pay out on winning codes from the promotion.
Not for me, if i had a bunch of codes i'd download a lot of those Pixie songs even if they weren't that challenging! Seriously Monkey Gone To Heaven is the easiest song in the world, but i still got the DLC for GH:WT cuz i love that song. "Hey" might be a fun song to play though..
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Post by: vudu on July 14, 2009, 02:27:15 PM
I'm beginning to think this recent lack of good DLC is a conspiracy with Pepsi so people don't find anything good and they don't have to pay out on winning codes from the promotion.
You say that on the day they release 14 Pixies songs on Wii? I wish I could hate you to death.
Also, a huge BOOOOOOOOOOO for the lack of "River Euphrates".
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Post by: NWR_insanolord on July 14, 2009, 05:33:31 PM
I'm beginning to think this recent lack of good DLC is a conspiracy with Pepsi so people don't find anything good and they don't have to pay out on winning codes from the promotion.
You say that on the day they release 14 Pixies songs on Wii? I wish I could hate you to death.
Also, a huge BOOOOOOOOOOO for the lack of "River Euphrates".
I'm not familiar with the Pixies, but it should be noted that I don't own the Wii version, I have it for a real console and thus have had those songs for some time now.
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Post by: vudu on July 14, 2009, 05:43:53 PM
Then you have no excuse for your lack of familiarity with the Pixies and you have no right to complain about the lack of something to purchase with your winning Pepsi codes.
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Post by: NWR_insanolord on July 14, 2009, 05:52:23 PM
Well fine then, I'll check them out on Napster some time and if I like them then I'll have to get some of the DLC.
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Post by: vudu on July 14, 2009, 08:11:58 PM
EasyCure might kill me, but I'd suggest you jump head first into Surfer Rosa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surfer_Rosa) and Doolittle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doolittle_(album)) and avoid the other stuff (at least until you fall in love with the first two).
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Post by: EasyCure on July 15, 2009, 11:22:11 AM
EasyCure might kill me, but I'd suggest you jump head first into Surfer Rosa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surfer_Rosa) and Doolittle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doolittle_(album)) and avoid the other stuff (at least until you fall in love with the first two).
I don't care, its all good to me.
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Post by: BranDonk Kong on July 15, 2009, 12:18:57 PM
You know what would very easy to chart out and make available - and probably make a ton of money for Harmonix/EA? Release all of Weezer's albums as DLC - or at least the deluxe 10 year anniversary of the Blue Album as well as Pinkerton and the Red Album (deluxe as well).
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Post by: Stratos on July 18, 2009, 11:59:06 PM
7/21 DLC
For HD systems: Kings of Leon “Crawl” Kings of Leon “Molly’s Chambers” Kings of Leon “Sex on Fire” Rancid “Last One to Die” Rancid “Ruby Soho” Rancid “Time Bomb” Rise Against “Prayer of the Refugee” Rise Against “Re-Education (Through Labor)” Rise Against “Savior” Lush “Sweetness & Light”
(All tracks are original master recordings)
For Wii: Big Dipper “All Going Out Together” * Big Dipper “She’s Fetching” * Big Dipper “Younger Bums” * Judas Priest “Dissident Aggressor (Live)” Judas Priest “Eat Me Alive (Live)” Judas Priest “Prophecy (Live)” The Dead Weather “Hang You From the Heavens” The Dead Weather “No Hassle Night” The Dead Weather “Treat Me Like Your Mother” Jethro Tull “Hymn 43” Naked Brothers “Body I Occupy” * Naked Brothers “I Don’t Want To Go To School” * No Doubt “Bathwater” No Doubt “Don’t Speak” No Doubt “Excuse Me Mr.” No Doubt “Ex-Girlfriend” No Doubt “Hella Good” No Doubt “Hey Baby” No Doubt “It’s My Life” No Doubt “Just a Girl” No Doubt “Running” No Doubt “Simple Kind of Life” No Doubt “Spiderwebs” No Doubt “Sunday Morning” No Doubt “Underneath It All”
(All tracks are original master recordings)
Price: $2.00 (200 Wii Points) per track *Denotes $1.00 (100 Wii Points) per track
With the addition of these tracks, there are now more than 400 tracks in the Wii Rock Band Music Store.
Rock Band Unplugged: Grateful Dead “Casey Jones” Thin Lizzy “The Boys Are Back In Town (Live)”
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Post by: BranDonk Kong on July 19, 2009, 01:04:18 AM
Oh Jesus, it's a sad week when you get 10 songs, and Rancid is the best option. On the other hand, Hella Good, Just a Girl, Spiderwebs and Don't Speak are fun to play. I'm far from being a No Doubt fan, but all of their "good" songs are in that list.
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Post by: Stratos on July 19, 2009, 02:40:12 AM
I like No Doubt. Already have Spiderwebs on Guitar Hero but the others are fair game.
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Post by: Stratos on July 23, 2009, 05:22:06 PM
Anyone else D/Ling tracks with the free Pepsi points?
I'm playing catchup on DLC I missed because I was tight on money with them. Especially when you can mooch them off of your co-workers too. ;D
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Post by: kraken613 on July 23, 2009, 06:08:13 PM
I have gotten some from Pepsi. It's an awesome deal.
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Post by: Stratos on July 26, 2009, 05:48:21 AM
7/28 Update
For All three consoles:
Blink-182 “Down” Blink-182 “Feeling This” Blink-182 “The Rock Show” Damone “Out Here All Night” KISS “100,000 Years (Live)” KISS “Deuce (Live)” KISS “Parasite (Live)” Weezer “My Name is Jonas” Weezer “Pork and Beans” Weezer “Undone – The Sweater Song”
(All tracks are original master recordings)
Back catalog for Wii:
Kings of Leon “Crawl” Kings of Leon “Molly’s Chambers” Kings of Leon “Sex on Fire” Rancid “Last One to Die” Rancid “Ruby Soho” Rancid “Time Bomb” Rise Against “Prayer of the Refugee” Rise Against “Re-Education (Through Labor)” Rise Against “Savior” Lush “Sweetness & Light” Children of Bodom “Are You Dead Yet” Finley “Tutto è Possibile Mötley Crüe “Don’t Go Away Mad (Just Go Away)” Mötley Crüe “Dr. Feelgood” Mötley Crüe “Kickstart My Heart” Mötley Crüe “Rattlesnake Shake” Mötley Crüe “Same Ol’ Situation (S.O.S)” Mötley Crüe “She Goes Down” Mötley Crüe “Slice Of Your Pie” Mötley Crüe “Sticky Sweet” Mötley Crüe “Time For Change” Mötley Crüe “Without You” Platero y Tú “Hay Poco Rock & Roll” Squeeze “Tempted” Tokio Hotel “Ready, Set, Go!”
(All tracks are original master recordings)
Rock Band Unplugged:
James Gang “Funk #49” Alien Ant Farm “Smooth Criminal”
Hmm...do I spend my Pepsi points on more tracks or splurge on WiiWare and VC games?
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Post by: BranDonk Kong on July 26, 2009, 10:23:59 AM
You've gotta be shitting me! I've been waiting for those 3 Weezer songs forever! I didn't think it would ever happen...time to buy! Almost...
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Post by: Spinnzilla on July 26, 2009, 01:22:59 PM
KISS? PARASITE?
WIN!
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Post by: Stratos on July 26, 2009, 05:18:03 PM
Mmm The Sweater Song brings back memories :)
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Post by: EasyCure on July 27, 2009, 11:01:37 AM
WHAT THE **** MAN!
****! I got my wii back up online yesterday, got excited to redeem my damn wii points from unclebob/pepsi and bought some DLC tracks for the hell of it, nothing that i felt "oh ****, i gotta get this" (well, cept for The Trooper by Maiden) and now this DLC list comes in and *shocK* There's A LOT of stuff i want! GRRR
Looks like i'm buying a wii points card after work...
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Post by: Stratos on July 27, 2009, 06:17:36 PM
Half of my recent batch of codes didn't win me songs. Never seen this happen before >:(
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Post by: EasyCure on July 27, 2009, 06:21:57 PM
Half of my recent batch of codes didn't win me songs. Never seen this happen before >:(
I laugh at you.
:P
Those were going to be my Life as a Darklord and Monkey Island fund. Now unless the others I have work I can't get both games.
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Post by: EasyCure on July 27, 2009, 06:35:40 PM
Well i'm actually using these for DLC, aka doing the honest things here, so i say:
All your codes are belong to me!
Besides, it's easier for me to splurge "free" wii points towards a DLC because if there was a VC or WW game i wanted, i'd just buy it. DLC is much more of an impulse buy, hence why i'm loving these codes so far (even though i've only redeemed two).
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Post by: Stratos on July 27, 2009, 06:37:01 PM
I've spent all of my points so far on DLC, but I was also hoping to slip in some WW games while I was at it.
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Post by: EasyCure on July 27, 2009, 06:41:06 PM
Well EA/Harmonix knows your true intentions and thus are excluding you from the game.
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Post by: Stratos on July 27, 2009, 07:18:07 PM
There were some songs off the list Stratos posted that were available yesterday, but some weren't.. whats the deal with that? (I have the game on wii)
The Wii list is sometimes delayed by a day or two. I just copy the list HMX releases.
You have the Wii version, EasyCure? We should totally play that sometime. Add it to the list of games we need to play together :)
I misplaced my guitars when I was moving stuff around. I think someone put them in the garage. I'm going to try and find them tomorrow.
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Post by: Stratos on August 03, 2009, 04:40:39 AM
8/4 Update
Tracks available on Xbox 360 and Wii (Aug. 4) and PLAYSTATION 3 system (Aug. 6): Spinal Tap “(Funky) Sex Farm” Spinal Tap “(Listen to the) Flower People (Reggae Stylee)” Spinal Tap “America” Spinal Tap “Big Bottom” Spinal Tap “Cups and Cakes” Spinal Tap “Gimme Some Money” Spinal Tap “Heavy Duty” Spinal Tap “Hell Hole” Spinal Tap “Rock ‘n’ Roll Creation” Spinal Tap “Stonehenge” Spinal Tap “Tonight I’m Gonna Rock You Tonight”
(All tracks are original master recordings from Back From The Dead recording sessions.)
Price: $1.99 USD, £.99 UK, €1.49 EU (160 Microsoft Points for Xbox 360) per track $17.99 (1440 Microsoft Points for Xbox 360) for “Spinal Tap’s TAP TEN” $2.00 USD, (200 Wii Points) per track
Additional Back-Catalog tracks available for Wii (Aug. 4): Black Sabbath “N.I.B.” * Black Sabbath “Sweet Leaf” * Black Sabbath “War Pigs” * Foo Fighters “Doll” Foo Fighters “Enough Space” Foo Fighters “February Stars” Foo Fighters “Hey, Johnny Park!” Foo Fighters “Monkey Wrench” Foo Fighters “My Hero” Foo Fighters “My Poor Brain” Foo Fighters “New Way Home” Foo Fighters “See You” Foo Fighters “Up in Arms” Foo Fighters “Walking After You” Foo Fighters “Wind Up”
(* Denotes cover version)
Tracks available for Rock Band Unplugged (Aug. 6):
Jane’s Addiction “Had a Dad” Styx “Renegade”
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Post by: NWR_insanolord on August 03, 2009, 09:02:53 AM
The Spinal Tap set is called the Spinal Tap Tap Ten but there are eleven tracks and it took me until just now to get the joke.
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Post by: BeautifulShy on August 03, 2009, 09:48:24 AM
Still waiting for some of those missing DLC tracks (for wii) from the LAST update.. >:[
Odd. Not sure what's up with that.
On another note, does anyone want a free Pepsi Rock Band code for 360? My last code I found I forgot to ask for Wii and it gave me the 360 code instead. Useless to me and I think it only works on RB on the 360 unlike the Wii ones where you can spend them on anything. PM me if you want it.
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Post by: NWR_insanolord on August 04, 2009, 05:13:50 PM
The 360 codes are not just Rock Band specific, they're specific to the one song you pick on the Yahoo site. This sucks for me right now, because for once I actually want to use some of my free songs to get songs, but I have Rock Band for the 360 and I want stuff that came out today which, like stuff from the last several weeks, isn't available on the Pepsi site yet.
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Post by: Stratos on August 04, 2009, 05:16:13 PM
The 360 codes are not just Rock Band specific, they're specific to the one song you pick on the Yahoo site. This sucks for me right now, because for once I actually want to use some of my free songs to get songs, but I have Rock Band for the 360 and I want stuff that came out today which, like stuff from the last several weeks, isn't available on the Pepsi site yet.
So for once it pays to own the Wii version. Nice ;)
I gave the spare code to Kraken but he hasn't told me if it worked or not yet. I forget what song it was for.
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Post by: Athena Asamiya on August 04, 2009, 06:24:14 PM
Tracks available on Xbox 360 and Wii (Aug. 4) and PLAYSTATION 3 system (Aug. 6): Spinal Tap “(Funky) Sex Farm” Spinal Tap “(Listen to the) Flower People (Reggae Stylee)” Spinal Tap “America” Spinal Tap “Big Bottom” Spinal Tap “Cups and Cakes” Spinal Tap “Gimme Some Money” Spinal Tap “Heavy Duty” Spinal Tap “Hell Hole” Spinal Tap “Rock ‘n’ Roll Creation” Spinal Tap “Stonehenge” Spinal Tap “Tonight I’m Gonna Rock You Tonight”
Finally, Tap tracks I care about!
But where's "All the Way Home"? It's still one of my favorites.
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Post by: NWR_insanolord on August 05, 2009, 01:58:24 AM
How drunk do you have to be before you're willing to do vocals for Big Bottom?
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Post by: decoyman on August 05, 2009, 11:03:38 AM
Amazingly, I just finally saw This is Spinal Tap this week. Thanks Netflix!
The first thing I thought of after finishing it is that The Office took a lot of inspiration from here... (or maybe it's just that trademark Britisth humor coupled with a documentary style?) Either way, great flick. :) And I can't help but be interested in these tracks now.
Amazingly, I just finally saw This is Spinal Tap this week. Thanks Netflix!
The first thing I thought of after finishing it is that The Office took a lot of inspiration from here... (or maybe it's just that trademark Britisth humor coupled with a documentary style?) Either way, great flick. :) And I can't help but be interested in these tracks now.
I can't believe I've never made you watch that before. It's a really great movie.
Also, I think Ricky Gervais has said before that he was very inspired by Christopher Guest and his movies, and that's one of the reasons that after Gervais shot to stardom with The Office, he found his way into Guest's next movie, "For Your Consideration" (which I own on DVD yet still have not yet watched).
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Post by: Stratos on August 11, 2009, 06:25:39 AM
Tracks available on Xbox 360 (Aug. 11) and Playstation 3 (Aug. 13): Gorillaz “Clint Eastwood” Gorillaz “Feel Good Inc.” Gorillaz “Re-Hash” Janis Joplin “Piece of My Heart” The Band “Chest Fever (LIVE)” Jefferson Airplane “White Rabbit” The Who “Magic Bus (Live at Leeds)”
Additional tracks available for Wii (Aug. 11): Blink-182 “Dammit” Blink-182 “Down” Blink-182 “Feeling This” Blink-182 “The Rock Show” Damone “Out Here All Night” Fratellis “Creeping Up the Backstairs” Fratellis “Flathead” Fratellis “Henrietta” KISS “100,000 Years (LIVE)” KISS “Deuce (LIVE)” KISS “Parasite (LIVE)” Lenny Kravitz “Are You Gonna Go My Way” Lenny Kravitz “Freedom Train” Lenny Kravitz “Let Love Rule” Lenny Kravitz “Mr Cab Driver” Pat Benatar “Hit Me With Your Best Shot” Steve Miller Band “Space Cowboy” Steve Miller Band “Take The Money & Run” Steve Miller Band “The Joker” Thin Lizzy “The Boys Are Back in Town (LIVE)” Thin Lizzy “Cowboy Song (LIVE)” Thin Lizzy “Jailbreak (LIVE)” Weezer “My Name is Jonas” Weezer “Pork & Beans” Weezer “Undone – The Sweater Song”
Tracks available for Rock Band Unplugged (Aug. 13): Iron Maiden “The Number of the Beast” Iron Maiden “The Trooper”
Oddly enough, they don't explicitly say that the new stuff is also coming to Wii. I'm going to assume it is not, then. Nice to be seeing a lot of catchup happening still, though.
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Post by: EasyCure on August 11, 2009, 10:17:42 AM
Finally.
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Post by: kraken613 on August 14, 2009, 01:22:15 PM
Tracks available on Xbox 360 (Aug. 18) and PLAYSTATION 3 system (Aug. 20):
Blind Melon - No Rain Blur - There’s No Other Way Dropkick Murphys - I’m Shipping Up to Boston Eve 6 - Inside Out Kaiser Chiefs - I Predict a Riot Foo Fighters - All My Life Foo Fighters - I’ll Stick Around Foo Fighters - Lonely as You
Additional tracks available for Wii (Aug. 18):
Gorillaz - Clint Eastwood Gorillaz - Feel Good Inc. Gorillaz - Re-Hash Janis Joplin - Piece of My Heart Jefferson Airplane - White Rabbit The Band - Chest Fever (Live) The Who - Magic Bus (Live at Leeds) Red Hot Chili Peppers - Apache Rose Peacock Red Hot Chili Peppers - Blood Sugar Sex Magik Red Hot Chili Peppers - Breaking The Girl Red Hot Chili Peppers - Funky Monks Red Hot Chili Peppers - I Could Have Lied Red Hot Chili Peppers - If You Have to Ask Red Hot Chili Peppers - Mellowship Slinky in B Major Red Hot Chili Peppers - My Lovely Man Red Hot Chili Peppers - Naked in the Rain Red Hot Chili Peppers - Sir Psycho Sexy Red Hot Chili Peppers - Suck My Kiss Red Hot Chili Peppers - The Greeting Song Red Hot Chili Peppers - The Power of Equality Red Hot Chili Peppers - The Righteous & the Wicked Red Hot Chili Peppers - They’re Red Hot Red Hot Chili Peppers - Under the Bridge Megasus - Megasus * Honest Bob and the Factory-to-Dealer Incentives - Entangled *
Tracks available for Rock Band Unplugged (Aug. 20):
Pat Benatar - Heart Breaker Coheed and Cambria - A Favor House Atlantic
I took Stratos job just because, HELL YEAH! Dropkick Murphy's I'm Shipping Up to Boston is Johnathan Papelbons from the Red Sox song!
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Post by: BranDonk Kong on August 14, 2009, 01:40:13 PM
I've been waiting for"I'll Stick Around" ever since Rock Band was announced.
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Post by: Stratos on August 14, 2009, 02:56:15 PM
:P
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Post by: kraken613 on August 17, 2009, 08:36:00 PM
Thought the Wii Rock Band owners would think this was interesting.
