Author Topic: New Mario lacks 'newness' (Read 12887 times)

Rancid Planet · « **Reply #25 on:** April 13, 2006, 11:59:19 PM »

I love everything about WW. I just wish it was longer. And wishing it was longer is usually a sign of a great game for me. I've played so many by this point that actually not wanting a game to be over is fairly rare for me. Although the sidequests and stuff are pretty fun. I even had a good time collecting all those damn statues.

You know, to get...another damn statue.

But yeah, New Mario and stuff.

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #26 on:** April 14, 2006, 04:44:37 AM »

Rancid Planet: Good news it is longer...Its called Phantom Hourglass. Preorder today.

Rancid Planet · « **Reply #27 on:** April 14, 2006, 07:36:58 PM »

How long Donkey Kong?

MaleficentOgre · « **Reply #28 on:** April 15, 2006, 09:58:01 PM »

The reason 2D games still look great is because they've not been upgraded. yeah new systems mean you can do more with graphics and such, but they still you lo-res sprites most of the time. If all current gen 2D games looked like guilty gear FF1 would be just as unlookatable as FFVII.

wandering · « **Reply #29 on:** April 15, 2006, 10:11:03 PM »

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Look at Super Mario World, then look at Mario 64. Case closed.

I think it's only fair to compare Super Mario World to Luigi's Mansion, and Super Mario 64 to Super Mario Bros. In which case, things are a little more even.

Though, yes, I do agree that sprites show more personality than 3d games. Same with cel animation vs computer animation.

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #30 on:** April 17, 2006, 08:19:38 AM »

Wandering: No that isn't a fair comparison. You could say compare Super Mario World to Luigi's Mansion or Mario Sunshine, but just because it was a first generation 3D game does not mean the technology compares to 8bit Nintendo.

Besides that we aren't talking technically, we are comparing visual appeal.

And yes most 3D games and more advanced 2D games look better than 8bit generation Nintendo because 8bit Nintendo didn't have enough power to advance graphics that great.

But you know what 8Bit Mario 3 looks pretty amazing.

And if you are going to compare Luigi's Mansion with a SNES game then Super Mario World 2 Yoshi's Island blows it away with style and visual appeal. It may be the best visually impressive game of all time in my opinion.

KirbySStar · « **Reply #31 on:** April 17, 2006, 08:54:39 PM »

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Originally posted by: Spak-Spang
And if you are going to compare Luigi's Mansion with a SNES game then Super Mario World 2 Yoshi's Island blows it away with style and visual appeal. It is the most visually impressive game of all time.

Fixed.

Artimus · « **Reply #32 on:** April 17, 2006, 11:14:10 PM »

I never get the praise for Yoshi's Island. I find it a frustratingly tiresome platformer with creative, if hardly impressive, visuals. And the most obnoxious sound design in any first party Nintendo game ever.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #33 on:** April 18, 2006, 06:53:05 AM »

I didn't find it frustrating but it wasn't as good as SMW.

IceCold · « **Reply #34 on:** April 18, 2006, 03:00:58 PM »

I don't get how anyone can not praise Yoshi's Island.. sure the gameplay wasn't as good as SMW, but it was so creative. The visuals and style, especially for that time, were brilliant.

To each his own, I guess..

nitsu niflheim · « **Reply #35 on:** April 18, 2006, 03:11:04 PM »

I didn't like SMW2:Yoshi's Island all that much. Looked good, but the difficulty of the game was manufactured because you spent too much time backtracking to get baby mario back if you got hit. that kind of crap is annoying not matter who made the game.

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #36 on:** April 19, 2006, 08:39:55 AM »

Nitsu: The difficulty wasn't manufactored. If you were good you didn't get hit. The difficulty is still avoiding all the crazy baddies in the first place.

The game had brilliant and large level designs, which were creative, challenging, and full of depth.

The mechanic to get Mario back I thought was imaginative, and added some challenge to the system yes, but mostly it added a depth to the concept of the game. And it was nice that hey you didn't immediately die hitting an enemy, you had a chance to recover.

I think that alone allowed Nintendo to really push the difficulty level up.

wandering · « **Reply #37 on:** April 20, 2006, 01:40:20 AM »

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Wandering: No that isn't a fair comparison. You could say compare Super Mario World to Luigi's Mansion or Mario Sunshine, but just because it was a first generation 3D game does not mean the technology compares to 8bit Nintendo.

Besides that we aren't talking technically, we are comparing visual appeal.

Massive power differences aside, the 64 could only really output decent 3d and not much else, and the nes could only output decent 2d and not much else. By contrast, the cube could output 3d + graphical flourishes, and the snes could output 2d + graphical flourishes. So I think the following comparison is pretty fair:

Artimus · « **Reply #38 on:** April 20, 2006, 03:40:45 AM »

IMHO the 2D and the 3D look about the same. Those shots are good comparison.

odilon · « **Reply #39 on:** April 24, 2006, 08:20:54 PM »

New video!

IceCold · « **Reply #40 on:** April 24, 2006, 08:35:49 PM »

Must... resist...

Caterkiller · « **Reply #41 on:** April 24, 2006, 09:05:59 PM »

Yoshi's Island is my all time top 2D platformer! Im with Spak-Spang all the way.

I wouldn't worry about viewing the new video, it doesn't reveal to much, other than what can be done while small.

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #42 on:** April 24, 2006, 09:48:26 PM »

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Originally posted by: IceCold
Must... resist...

Watch iiiiiiit...You know you want toooooo! =D

Hostile Creation · « **Reply #43 on:** April 24, 2006, 09:52:08 PM »

Good comparisons. I'd even dare to say Luigi's Mansion is more artistically sound than SMW, though that's really tough decision.
Also, Kirby Canvas Curse art > Yoshi's Island art, though the gameplay in Yoshi's Island surpasses KCC.

Stimutacs Addict · « **Reply #44 on:** April 25, 2006, 09:44:30 AM »

GAAH I need my DS! Must.. play,, kirby

wandering · « **Reply #45 on:** April 27, 2006, 12:06:38 AM »

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Good comparisons. I'd even dare to say Luigi's Mansion is more artistically sound than SMW, though that's really tough decision.

Thanks. Wouldn't go that far.

vudu · « **Reply #46 on:** May 03, 2006, 03:05:37 AM »

Contrary to previous rumours ... Koopalings a no show in New SMB.

Don't shoot the messenger.

Dasmos · « **Reply #47 on:** May 03, 2006, 03:59:47 AM »

Dammit, vudu!

I thought as much after seeing no character artowrk for any of the Koopalings.

Artimus · « **Reply #48 on:** May 03, 2006, 05:03:46 AM »

nitsu niflheim · « **Reply #49 on:** May 03, 2006, 05:25:02 AM »

I'm not upset, it would have been nice, but then again it has been done at least three times now.

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Author Topic: New Mario lacks 'newness' (Read 12887 times)