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Podcast Discussion / Re: Radio Free Nintendo: Episode 150
« on: June 27, 2009, 04:42:12 PM »
I specifically asked our DJ (who's a buddy of ours) to play Never Gonna Give You Up at our reception, so while there was no subterfuge involved there was a certain amount of RickRolling.

That's what I'm talking about! Totally awesome.

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And is that not the original thought of the thread, then?

Plus this is a monumental occasion. When was the last time someone broke the top ten?

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Nintendo Gaming / Re: Animal Crossing: City Folk
« on: June 27, 2009, 04:38:38 PM »
Yeah, there are things to collect and catch and you have the goal of buying upgrades to your house and paying them off. Think of it like Harvest Moon without the dating sim aspect and not as much focus on farming. That's what the games strikes me as. So if you hate Harvest Moon this may not suit you. Though interacting with other people and playing "hide Mop it up's fossils" is pretty fun  :D

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Nintendo Gaming / Re: The Conduit
« on: June 27, 2009, 04:30:28 PM »
So there is a tie between points/kills/deaths and how long it take for you to spawn? Or were you still responding to EC?

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So, going back to the original thought of the thread, there has been a bit of an upset in the top 10 posters. EasyCure stole the number 10 spot from Smash_Brother. BNM I know is less than 30 posts behind EasyCrue so well see if he can hold on to the spot before passing Mario. But Mario is still 800 posts ahead so he has a ays to go.

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KDR_11k  16510
Bill Aurion  15463
NinGurl69 *huggles  14149
Kairon  12005
vudu  10818
GoldenPhoenix  10803
Ian Sane  8604
ShyGuy  8570
Mario  7838
EasyCure  7054

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I need to do some shopping and other erands too. I should try and get it out of the way first. So do you want to meet up online after taking care of that stuff?

Does 4PM work?

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Nintendo Gaming / Re: Animal Crossing: City Folk
« on: June 27, 2009, 04:05:58 PM »
It's pretty fun. I've played away more hours that I would have thought. You can get pretty wrapped up in the experience.

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Nintendo Gaming / Re: The Conduit
« on: June 27, 2009, 04:04:23 PM »
My friendcode:

EasyCure
1548 3010 8321

THat was pretty fun. It ended pretty abruptly though. That second game with streets and explosives was really close . I attempted to add you as a friend. Whenever you log on again go to friend requests and accept me.

Ah, so that was you. I had to end it because Easy was lag jumping like crazy.

LOL 48 kills to 28 me against bustin 98 and bragdogg! haha

Oh so thats who that was! I'll add you next time i play MAV.
I was lag jumping like crazy!? I might of overused the jump button in one match (our explosives round) but thats it. I thought YOU were making the game buggy the whole time actually..

The first match or two i noticed you jump down from the top of a building and somehow appeared at the top again a second later. Then in the round we used explosives, i edged you out by one win at the end of the match yet the game declared you the winner, and in that final one with the tall buildings.. wow. You and MAV were both just disappearing/reappearing all over the place (the few times i found you guys) and then there was a continuing issue where respawning took FOREVER. The countdown would reach 0 and then reset. At one point one of you looked like you were stuck in a floor too, that was funny lol.

anyway, good games! I havent started the solo player campaign yet by the way, i just jumped into the multiplayer after adding everyone that was in the FC thread. The default controls were pretty good already, but i can't wait to tweak them to my liking so maybe i won't suck next time i hop online.

I think people bounce around when there is a good deal of lag.

I experienced the 'looping respawn counter' last night on a bounty hunter game. It was very frustrating. I wonder if it is a glitch or something. The counter does count down really fast when it gets stuck in loop mode.

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TalkBack / Re: REVIEWS: Boom Blox Bash Party
« on: June 27, 2009, 04:01:30 PM »
Very well worded, Pap.

I don't expect to get this any time soon but it does look really good.

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Nintendo Gaming / Re: Animal Crossing: City Folk
« on: June 27, 2009, 03:56:00 PM »
Buck is moving away! I told him not to but he wont listen. He says he wants to move to Insanolord's town. Makes me sad.

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TalkBack / Re: Get Your Grub On
« on: June 27, 2009, 03:54:06 PM »
Is this even an issue?

People who are allergic to MSG avoid it. People who love MSG sprinkle it on everything edible. Its a matter of choice, like red or blue, paper or plastic, boxers or briefs. Why even argue it like it matters to everyone?

Party pooper.

GP likes to argue ;)

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Nintendo Gaming / Re: The Conduit
« on: June 27, 2009, 03:53:04 PM »
If hackers have already started wrecking the game it could be causing the issues.

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TalkBack / Re: Two More Tingle Games Coming to Japan
« on: June 27, 2009, 03:49:10 PM »
Sounds like a reskinned Balloon Fight.
They already released Tingle's Balloon Fight through Club Nintendo in Japan.  Do you think it's the same thing or something more?

Maybe it is an expanded sequel to Balloon Fight?

fail, fail, and more fail!

Come on Nintendo! There are way better spin off ideas: Kat & Ana's ninja adventures, Ashley's magic wand Wii, Pirating the high seas with Tetra, any game staring Daisy/Rosaline/Zelda, Luigi Manson 2, etc.....

Sounds like you just want more games starring women. ;)

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General Chat / Re: Official "Happy Birthday Internet Friend" Thread
« on: June 27, 2009, 03:45:00 PM »
What did you say to get hit in the nose? Yikes. Some birthday gift she gave you.

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Yeah, just don't push yourself and cause a worse injury.

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Nintendo Gaming / Re: Amazing Deals!
« on: June 27, 2009, 03:41:21 PM »
Those are actually referrals to TJ Spykes store. But I will stop.

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NWR Forums Discord / Re: Unclepost Bob Bumps
« on: June 27, 2009, 03:34:28 PM »
nice. gotta top that..but right now mega man 9 is priority ;)

And here it is:

I was browsing thru the forums late one night
When my eyes beheld an eerie sight
For a monster nipplebegan to rise
And suddenly to my surprise

He did the bump
He did the monster bump 
The monster bump
Bob must be in a slump
He did the bump
He checked his nipple for lumps
He did the bump
He did the monster bump 


My hat's off to you.

thank you, thank you *bows*

I'll try to have something better for next month.

And the prophecy goes unfulfilled.

Good things come to those who wait..

Apparently not. Let's never wait again.

How big can the quote monster get?
It can get huge:

http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=27399.0

That thread crashed my browser. :o

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NWR Forums Discord / Re: Ian Sane post
« on: June 27, 2009, 03:29:55 PM »
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 It makes sense. If you have such a blatant weakness why show it if you don't have to, right? Of course they shouldn't have such a stupid weakness but whatever. I don't care about specs and the general public doesn't even know about them. BUT they're still important. The general public doesn't know the Cube specs. F*ck, I don't even know them and I looked them up when they were revealed. However the general public does think the Cube is underpowered and weaker than even the PS2. This is false but it's a common misconception. How did this idea get into people's heads? Negative word of mouth. Nintendo released realistic figures for the Cube which, although a very honest thing to do, made their console look significantly inferior on paper. So word of mouth spread. Not everyone is looking up gaming on the internet but they know someone who knows someone who knows someone who does and stuff gets spread around as a result. Internet geeks saw the Cube specs were by far the "weakest" and they told their friends the Cube was underpowered and they told their friends and it got spread around as if it's common knowledge even though it's inaccurate. So now Nintendo feels the Rev specs are "irrelevent". Well you only hide stuff when you don't want people to know, right? So obviously Nintendo is hiding weak ass hardware. That plus the "two or three times the Cube" comment just seals the deal. Even if it's false there's enough "evidence" for it to be "true". After all there's no denial from Nintendo on this issue. So it makes no difference if Nintendo hides the specs or not. The Rev is unofficially underpowered and everyone is going to know that by the time the thing's in stores and that's going to make a console that already has to fight for attention that much harder to sell. I'm not saying Nintendo should reveal the specs if they are lower. But just the fact that they have to hide them suggests that maybe they screwed up. I'm very interested in what the price is now. The ONLY reason to skimp on the hardware, at least from the consumer's perspective, is to have a lower price. So the Rev better be significantly cheaper than the competition. And I don't mean cheaper than the X360 launch price. It has to be cheaper than what the X360 costs when the Rev launches. Well realistically, yes, I would agree that only Nintendo would do that. But what did being honest about the Cube specs do for them? All it did was create the misconception that the Cube was underpowered. Specs shouldn't matter just like image shouldn't matter and marketing shouldn't matter. But they do, even if they shouldn't. So Nintendo can't just be all "well we've decided specs don't matter" and have everyone agree to it. Nerds are still going to compare hardware, decide the Rev is underpowered because of hidden specs, and then spread the word that the Rev is the weakest hardware regardless of whether that's true or not. So it make no sense to hide "good" specs because all it can do is benefit them and hiding, no matter what the specs really are, is going to hurt them. The fact that Nintendo is hiding the specs is "proof". Proof enough to declare it the weakest console anyway. And being excluded outright from the hardware discussion isn't that great either. Then the Rev isn't even a contender. It's that "Xbox or PS2" thing all over again. Why the hell not? Sony does it all the time and it hasn't hurt them. We're the only ones who care if Nintendo is honest about things like that anyway and we'll know they're exagerating for publicity purposes. The difference between the graphics probably won't be that noticable in real life. So why not say you can push 50 billion gigaflips or whatever and let those who care about that sort of stuff think you're better than you are? It's not really a lie if the games look and play great. Sony said the PS2 would have TOY STORY graphics! That has a huge lie and everyone caught them on it because the games looked nowhere near that level. But most people don't know what specs even mean. They just see a big number and think it's good. So give them a big number and then deliver great graphics and they'll be none the wiser. Nintendo themselves have said that the jump in graphics is shrinking. So if no one can see the difference then they'll be fine. But having this big ??? regarding the specs makes it look like they're hiding something. So why not kill the underpowered rumour and then the games really will speak for themselves. The multiple console features sounds pretty cool. I probably would never use it but I still like the fact that the option is there if I want it. Nintendo traditionally has been really inflexible regarding rarely-used functionality. It's like if 90% of the userbase won't use it they won't bother to support it. So it's good to see them including such a feature because a few years ago they would probably never have even considered it. No games shown until 2006? Hey Nintendo. You do realize there's this Xbox 360 thing being released this month that has, you know, games and screenshots and hype and stuff and is like a direct competitor trying to steal customers from you, right? Ever thought of, I don't know, releasing at least a f*cking screenshot to try to get people to actually know the Rev exists. I understand that they want people to play the games the first time they see them but the thing is if the games don't look pretty enough to stand on their own in screenshots then they're not going to be able to compete against the X360 or PS3 anyway. TV and print ads are probably the most common videogame ads and those cannot convey gameplay. The game has to look good to get people's attention. That's what draws them to the store demo or convinces them to rent the game. Why was Donkey Kong Country such a big hit? Because it had amazing graphics that got people's attention and when they tried the game out the gameplay delivered. A lot of people say gameplay over graphics but I think gameplay AND graphics are important. Nintendo wants to attract portions of the general public that don't play games. How do you get their attention? Well great visuals usually helps. Final Fantasy VII's famous commercial didn't show blocky polygons menu fighting. Why? Why can't a Rev game play great yet also look good in screenshots? If the games require one to actually play them in order to build interest then the Rev is screwed because trying a game requires effort and the general public won't put in the effort unless something that translates through television or a picture grabs them by the balls first. There is no reason why Rev games can't wow someone based on screens alone. No reason aside from any inane Nintendo stubborness anyway. If the games look like ass but play great then, yeah, waiting until they can demonstrate them fully makes sense. But there's no good reason WHY the games have to be that way. It makes sense. If you have such a blatant weakness why show it if you don't have to, right? Of course they shouldn't have such a stupid weakness but whatever. I don't care about specs and the general public doesn't even know about them. BUT they're still important. The general public doesn't know the Cube specs. F*ck, I don't even know them and I looked them up when they were revealed. However the general public does think the Cube is underpowered and weaker than even the PS2. This is false but it's a common misconception. How did this idea get into people's heads? Negative word of mouth. Nintendo released realistic figures for the Cube which, although a very honest thing to do, made their console look significantly inferior on paper. So word of mouth spread. Not everyone is looking up gaming on the internet but they know someone who knows someone who knows someone who does and stuff gets spread around as a result. Internet geeks saw the Cube specs were by far the "weakest" and they told their friends the Cube was underpowered and they told their friends and it got spread around as if it's common knowledge even though it's inaccurate. So now Nintendo feels the Rev specs are "irrelevent". Well you only hide stuff when you don't want people to know, right? So obviously Nintendo is hiding weak ass hardware. That plus the "two or three times the Cube" comment just seals the deal. Even if it's false there's enough "evidence" for it to be "true". After all there's no denial from Nintendo on this issue. So it makes no difference if Nintendo hides the specs or not. The Rev is unofficially underpowered and everyone is going to know that by the time the thing's in stores and that's going to make a console that already has to fight for attention that much harder to sell. I'm not saying Nintendo should reveal the specs if they are lower. But just the fact that they have to hide them suggests that maybe they screwed up. I'm very interested in what the price is now. The ONLY reason to skimp on the hardware, at least from the consumer's perspective, is to have a lower price. So the Rev better be significantly cheaper than the competition. And I don't mean cheaper than the X360 launch price. It has to be cheaper than what the X360 costs when the Rev launches. Well realistically, yes, I would agree that only Nintendo would do that. But what did being honest about the Cube specs do for them? All it did was create the misconception that the Cube was underpowered. Specs shouldn't matter just like image shouldn't matter and marketing shouldn't matter. But they do, even if they shouldn't. So Nintendo can't just be all "well we've decided specs don't matter" and have everyone agree to it. Nerds are still going to compare hardware, decide the Rev is underpowered because of hidden specs, and then spread the word that the Rev is the weakest hardware regardless of whether that's true or not. So it make no sense to hide "good" specs because all it can do is benefit them and hiding, no matter what the specs really are, is going to hurt them. The fact that Nintendo is hiding the specs is "proof". Proof enough to declare it the weakest console anyway. And being excluded outright from the hardware discussion isn't that great either. Then the Rev isn't even a contender. It's that "Xbox or PS2" thing all over again. Why the hell not? Sony does it all the time and it hasn't hurt them. We're the only ones who care if Nintendo is honest about things like that anyway and we'll know they're exagerating for publicity purposes. The difference between the graphics probably won't be that noticable in real life. So why not say you can push 50 billion gigaflips or whatever and let those who care about that sort of stuff think you're better than you are? It's not really a lie if the games look and play great. Sony said the PS2 would have TOY STORY graphics! That has a huge lie and everyone caught them on it because the games looked nowhere near that level. But most people don't know what specs even mean. They just see a big number and think it's good. So give them a big number and then deliver great graphics and they'll be none the wiser. Nintendo themselves have said that the jump in graphics is shrinking. So if no one can see the difference then they'll be fine. But having this big ??? regarding the specs makes it look like they're hiding something. So why not kill the underpowered rumour and then the games really will speak for themselves. The multiple console features sounds pretty cool. I probably would never use it but I still like the fact that the option is there if I want it. Nintendo traditionally has been really inflexible regarding rarely-used functionality. It's like if 90% of the userbase won't use it they won't bother to support it. So it's good to see them including such a feature because a few years ago they would probably never have even considered it. No games shown until 2006? Hey Nintendo. You do realize there's this Xbox 360 thing being released this month that has, you know, games and screenshots and hype and stuff and is like a direct competitor trying to steal customers from you, right? Ever thought of, I don't know, releasing at least a f*cking screenshot to try to get people to actually know the Rev exists. I understand that they want people to play the games the first time they see them but the thing is if the games don't look pretty enough to stand on their own in screenshots then they're not going to be able to compete against the X360 or PS3 anyway. TV and print ads are probably the most common videogame ads and those cannot convey gameplay. The game has to look good to get people's attention. That's what draws them to the store demo or convinces them to rent the game. Why was Donkey Kong Country such a big hit? Because it had amazing graphics that got people's attention and when they tried the game out the gameplay delivered. A lot of people say gameplay over graphics but I think gameplay AND graphics are important. Nintendo wants to attract portions of the general public that don't play games. How do you get their attention? Well great visuals usually helps. Final Fantasy VII's famous commercial didn't show blocky polygons menu fighting. Why? Why can't a Rev game play great yet also look good in screenshots? If the games require one to actually play them in order to build interest then the Rev is screwed because trying a game requires effort and the general public won't put in the effort unless something that translates through television or a picture grabs them by the balls first. There is no reason why Rev games can't wow someone based on screens alone. No reason aside from any inane Nintendo stubborness anyway. If the games look like ass but play great then, yeah, waiting until they can demonstrate them fully makes sense. But there's no good reason WHY the games have to be that way. It makes sense. If you have such a blatant weakness why show it if you don't have to, right? Of course they shouldn't have such a stupid weakness but whatever. I don't care about specs and the general public doesn't even know about them. BUT they're still important. The general public doesn't know the Cube specs. F*ck, I don't even know them and I looked them up when they were revealed. However the general public does think the Cube is underpowered and weaker than even the PS2. This is false but it's a common misconception. How did this idea get into people's heads? Negative word of mouth. Nintendo released realistic figures for the Cube which, although a very honest thing to do, made their console look significantly inferior on paper. So word of mouth spread. Not everyone is looking up gaming on the internet but they know someone who knows someone who knows someone who does and stuff gets spread around as a result. Internet geeks saw the Cube specs were by far the "weakest" and they told their friends the Cube was underpowered and they told their friends and it got spread around as if it's common knowledge even though it's inaccurate. So now Nintendo feels the Rev specs are "irrelevent". Well you only hide stuff when you don't want people to know, right? So obviously Nintendo is hiding weak ass hardware. That plus the "two or three times the Cube" comment just seals the deal. Even if it's false there's enough "evidence" for it to be "true". After all there's no denial from Nintendo on this issue. So it makes no difference if Nintendo hides the specs or not. The Rev is unofficially underpowered and everyone is going to know that by the time the thing's in stores and that's going to make a console that already has to fight for attention that much harder to sell. I'm not saying Nintendo should reveal the specs if they are lower. But just the fact that they have to hide them suggests that maybe they screwed up. I'm very interested in what the price is now. The ONLY reason to skimp on the hardware, at least from the consumer's perspective, is to have a lower price. So the Rev better be significantly cheaper than the competition. And I don't mean cheaper than the X360 launch price. It has to be cheaper than what the X360 costs when the Rev launches. Well realistically, yes, I would agree that only Nintendo would do that. But what did being honest about the Cube specs do for them? All it did was create the misconception that the Cube was underpowered. Specs shouldn't matter just like image shouldn't matter and marketing shouldn't matter. But they do, even if they shouldn't. So Nintendo can't just be all "well we've decided specs don't matter" and have everyone agree to it. Nerds are still going to compare hardware, decide the Rev is underpowered because of hidden specs, and then spread the word that the Rev is the weakest hardware regardless of whether that's true or not. So it make no sense to hide "good" specs because all it can do is benefit them and hiding, no matter what the specs really are, is going to hurt them. The fact that Nintendo is hiding the specs is "proof". Proof enough to declare it the weakest console anyway. And being excluded outright from the hardware discussion isn't that great either. Then the Rev isn't even a contender. It's that "Xbox or PS2" thing all over again. Why the hell not? Sony does it all the time and it hasn't hurt them. We're the only ones who care if Nintendo is honest about things like that anyway and we'll know they're exagerating for publicity purposes. The difference between the graphics probably won't be that noticable in real life. So why not say you can push 50 billion gigaflips or whatever and let those who care about that sort of stuff think you're better than you are? It's not really a lie if the games look and play great. Sony said the PS2 would have TOY STORY graphics! That has a huge lie and everyone caught them on it because the games looked nowhere near that level. But most people don't know what specs even mean. They just see a big number and think it's good. So give them a big number and then deliver great graphics and they'll be none the wiser. Nintendo themselves have said that the jump in graphics is shrinking. So if no one can see the difference then they'll be fine. But having this big ??? regarding the specs makes it look like they're hiding something. So why not kill the underpowered rumour and then the games really will speak for themselves. The multiple console features sounds pretty cool. I probably would never use it but I still like the fact that the option is there if I want it. Nintendo traditionally has been really inflexible regarding rarely-used functionality. It's like if 90% of the userbase won't use it they won't bother to support it. So it's good to see them including such a feature because a few years ago they would probably never have even considered it. No games shown until 2006? Hey Nintendo. You do realize there's this Xbox 360 thing being released this month that has, you know, games and screenshots and hype and stuff and is like a direct competitor trying to steal customers from you, right? Ever thought of, I don't know, releasing at least a f*cking screenshot to try to get people to actually know the Rev exists. I understand that they want people to play the games the first time they see them but the thing is if the games don't look pretty enough to stand on their own in screenshots then they're not going to be able to compete against the X360 or PS3 anyway. TV and print ads are probably the most common videogame ads and those cannot convey gameplay. The game has to look good to get people's attention. That's what draws them to the store demo or convinces them to rent the game. Why was Donkey Kong Country such a big hit? Because it had amazing graphics that got people's attention and when they tried the game out the gameplay delivered. A lot of people say gameplay over graphics but I think gameplay AND graphics are important. Nintendo wants to attract portions of the general public that don't play games. How do you get their attention? Well great visuals usually helps. Final Fantasy VII's famous commercial didn't show blocky polygons menu fighting. Why? Why can't a Rev game play great yet also look good in screenshots? If the games require one to actually play them in order to build interest then the Rev is screwed because trying a game requires effort and the general public won't put in the effort unless something that translates through television or a picture grabs them by the balls first. There is no reason why Rev games can't wow someone based on screens alone. No reason aside from any inane Nintendo stubborness anyway. If the games look like ass but play great then, yeah, waiting until they can demonstrate them fully makes sense. But there's no good reason WHY the games have to be that way. It makes sense. If you have such a blatant weakness why show it if you don't have to, right? Of course they shouldn't have such a stupid weakness but whatever. I don't care about specs and the general public doesn't even know about them. BUT they're still important. The general public doesn't know the Cube specs. F*ck, I don't even know them and I looked them up when they were revealed. However the general public does think the Cube is underpowered and weaker than even the PS2. This is false but it's a common misconception. How did this idea get into people's heads? Negative word of mouth. Nintendo released realistic figures for the Cube which, although a very honest thing to do, made their console look significantly inferior on paper. So word of mouth spread. Not everyone is looking up gaming on the internet but they know someone who knows someone who knows someone who does and stuff gets spread around as a result. Internet geeks saw the Cube specs were by far the "weakest" and they told their friends the Cube was underpowered and they told their friends and it got spread around as if it's common knowledge even though it's inaccurate. So now Nintendo feels the Rev specs are "irrelevent". Well you only hide stuff when you don't want people to know, right? So obviously Nintendo is hiding weak ass hardware. That plus the "two or three times the Cube" comment just seals the deal. Even if it's false there's enough "evidence" for it to be "true". After all there's no denial from Nintendo on this issue. So it makes no difference if Nintendo hides the specs or not. The Rev is unofficially underpowered and everyone is going to know that by the time the thing's in stores and that's going to make a console that already has to fight for attention that much harder to sell. I'm not saying Nintendo should reveal the specs if they are lower. But just the fact that they have to hide them suggests that maybe they screwed up. I'm very interested in what the price is now. The ONLY reason to skimp on the hardware, at least from the consumer's perspective, is to have a lower price. So the Rev better be significantly cheaper than the competition. And I don't mean cheaper than the X360 launch price. It has to be cheaper than what the X360 costs when the Rev launches. Well realistically, yes, I would agree that only Nintendo would do that. But what did being honest about the Cube specs do for them? All it did was create the misconception that the Cube was underpowered. Specs shouldn't matter just like image shouldn't matter and marketing shouldn't matter. But they do, even if they shouldn't. So Nintendo can't just be all "well we've decided specs don't matter" and have everyone agree to it. Nerds are still going to compare hardware, decide the Rev is underpowered because of hidden specs, and then spread the word that the Rev is the weakest hardware regardless of whether that's true or not. So it make no sense to hide "good" specs because all it can do is benefit them and hiding, no matter what the specs really are, is going to hurt them. The fact that Nintendo is hiding the specs is "proof". Proof enough to declare it the weakest console anyway. And being excluded outright from the hardware discussion isn't that great either. Then the Rev isn't even a contender. It's that "Xbox or PS2" thing all over again. Why the hell not? Sony does it all the time and it hasn't hurt them. We're the only ones who care if Nintendo is honest about things like that anyway and we'll know they're exagerating for publicity purposes. The difference between the graphics probably won't be that noticable in real life. So why not say you can push 50 billion gigaflips or whatever and let those who care about that sort of stuff think you're better than you are? It's not really a lie if the games look and play great. Sony said the PS2 would have TOY STORY graphics! That has a huge lie and everyone caught them on it because the games looked nowhere near that level. But most people don't know what specs even mean. They just see a big number and think it's good. So give them a big number and then deliver great graphics and they'll be none the wiser. Nintendo themselves have said that the jump in graphics is shrinking. So if no one can see the difference then they'll be fine. But having this big ??? regarding the specs makes it look like they're hiding something. So why not kill the underpowered rumour and then the games really will speak for themselves. The multiple console features sounds pretty cool. I probably would never use it but I still like the fact that the option is there if I want it. Nintendo traditionally has been really inflexible regarding rarely-used functionality. It's like if 90% of the userbase won't use it they won't bother to support it. So it's good to see them including such a feature because a few years ago they would probably never have even considered it. No games shown until 2006? Hey Nintendo. You do realize there's this Xbox 360 thing being released this month that has, you know, games and screenshots and hype and stuff and is like a direct competitor trying to steal customers from you, right? Ever thought of, I don't know, releasing at least a f*cking screenshot to try to get people to actually know the Rev exists. I understand that they want people to play the games the first time they see them but the thing is if the games don't look pretty enough to stand on their own in screenshots then they're not going to be able to compete against the X360 or PS3 anyway. TV and print ads are probably the most common videogame ads and those cannot convey gameplay. The game has to look good to get people's attention. That's what draws them to the store demo or convinces them to rent the game. Why was Donkey Kong Country such a big hit? Because it had amazing graphics that got people's attention and when they tried the game out the gameplay delivered. A lot of people say gameplay over graphics but I think gameplay AND graphics are important. Nintendo wants to attract portions of the general public that don't play games. How do you get their attention? Well great visuals usually helps. Final Fantasy VII's famous commercial didn't show blocky polygons menu fighting. Why? Why can't a Rev game play great yet also look good in screenshots? If the games require one to actually play them in order to build interest then the Rev is screwed because trying a game requires effort and the general public won't put in the effort unless something that translates through television or a picture grabs them by the balls first. There is no reason why Rev games can't wow someone based on screens alone. No reason aside from any inane Nintendo stubborness anyway. If the games look like ass but play great then, yeah, waiting until they can demonstrate them fully makes sense. But there's no good reason WHY the games have to be that way. It makes sense. If you have such a blatant weakness why show it if you don't have to, right? Of course they shouldn't have such a stupid weakness but whatever. I don't care about specs and the general public doesn't even know about them. BUT they're still important. The general public doesn't know the Cube specs. F*ck, I don't even know them and I looked them up when they were revealed. However the general public does think the Cube is underpowered and weaker than even the PS2. This is false but it's a common misconception. How did this idea get into people's heads? Negative word of mouth. Nintendo released realistic figures for the Cube which, although a very honest thing to do, made their console look significantly inferior on paper. So word of mouth spread. Not everyone is looking up gaming on the internet but they know someone who knows someone who knows someone who does and stuff gets spread around as a result. Internet geeks saw the Cube specs were by far the "weakest" and they told their friends the Cube was underpowered and they told their friends and it got spread around as if it's common knowledge even though it's inaccurate. So now Nintendo feels the Rev specs are "irrelevent". Well you only hide stuff when you don't want people to know, right? So obviously Nintendo is hiding weak ass hardware. That plus the "two or three times the Cube" comment just seals the deal. Even if it's false there's enough "evidence" for it to be "true". After all there's no denial from Nintendo on this issue. So it makes no difference if Nintendo hides the specs or not. The Rev is unofficially underpowered and everyone is going to know that by the time the thing's in stores and that's going to make a console that already has to fight for attention that much harder to sell. I'm not saying Nintendo should reveal the specs if they are lower. But just the fact that they have to hide them suggests that maybe they screwed up. I'm very interested in what the price is now. The ONLY reason to skimp on the hardware, at least from the consumer's perspective, is to have a lower price. So the Rev better be significantly cheaper than the competition. And I don't mean cheaper than the X360 launch price. It has to be cheaper than what the X360 costs when the Rev launches. Well realistically, yes, I would agree that only Nintendo would do that. But what did being honest about the Cube specs do for them? All it did was create the misconception that the Cube was underpowered. Specs shouldn't matter just like image shouldn't matter and marketing shouldn't matter. But they do, even if they shouldn't. So Nintendo can't just be all "well we've decided specs don't matter" and have everyone agree to it. Nerds are still going to compare hardware, decide the Rev is underpowered because of hidden specs, and then spread the word that the Rev is the weakest hardware regardless of whether that's true or not. So it make no sense to hide "good" specs because all it can do is benefit them and hiding, no matter what the specs really are, is going to hurt them. The fact that Nintendo is hiding the specs is "proof". Proof enough to declare it the weakest console anyway. And being excluded outright from the hardware discussion isn't that great either. Then the Rev isn't even a contender. It's that "Xbox or PS2" thing all over again. Why the hell not? Sony does it all the time and it hasn't hurt them. We're the only ones who care if Nintendo is honest about things like that anyway and we'll know they're exagerating for publicity purposes. The difference between the graphics probably won't be that noticable in real life. So why not say you can push 50 billion gigaflips or whatever and let those who care about that sort of stuff think you're better than you are? It's not really a lie if the games look and play great. Sony said the PS2 would have TOY STORY graphics! That has a huge lie and everyone caught them on it because the games looked nowhere near that level. But most people don't know what specs even mean. They just see a big number and think it's good. So give them a big number and then deliver great graphics and they'll be none the wiser. Nintendo themselves have said that the jump in graphics is shrinking. So if no one can see the difference then they'll be fine. But having this big ??? regarding the specs makes it look like they're hiding something. So why not kill the underpowered rumour and then the games really will speak for themselves. The multiple console features sounds pretty cool. I probably would never use it but I still like the fact that the option is there if I want it. Nintendo traditionally has been really inflexible regarding rarely-used functionality. It's like if 90% of the userbase won't use it they won't bother to support it. So it's good to see them including such a feature because a few years ago they would probably never have even considered it. No games shown until 2006? Hey Nintendo. You do realize there's this Xbox 360 thing being released this month that has, you know, games and screenshots and hype and stuff and is like a direct competitor trying to steal customers from you, right? Ever thought of, I don't know, releasing at least a f*cking screenshot to try to get people to actually know the Rev exists. I understand that they want people to play the games the first time they see them but the thing is if the games don't look pretty enough to stand on their own in screenshots then they're not going to be able to compete against the X360 or PS3 anyway. TV and print ads are probably the most common videogame ads and those cannot convey gameplay. The game has to look good to get people's attention. That's what draws them to the store demo or convinces them to rent the game. Why was Donkey Kong Country such a big hit? Because it had amazing graphics that got people's attention and when they tried the game out the gameplay delivered. A lot of people say gameplay over graphics but I think gameplay AND graphics are important. Nintendo wants to attract portions of the general public that don't play games. How do you get their attention? Well great visuals usually helps. Final Fantasy VII's famous commercial didn't show blocky polygons menu fighting. Why? Why can't a Rev game play great yet also look good in screenshots? If the games require one to actually play them in order to build interest then the Rev is screwed because trying a game requires effort and the general public won't put in the effort unless something that translates through television or a picture grabs them by the balls first. There is no reason why Rev games can't wow someone based on screens alone. No reason aside from any inane Nintendo stubborness anyway. If the games look like ass but play great then, yeah, waiting until they can demonstrate them fully makes sense. But there's no good reason WHY the games have to be that way. It makes sense. If you have such a blatant weakness why show it if you don't have to, right? Of course they shouldn't have such a stupid weakness but whatever. I don't care about specs and the general public doesn't even know about them. BUT they're still important. The general public doesn't know the Cube specs. F*ck, I don't even know them and I looked them up when they were revealed. However the general public does think the Cube is underpowered and weaker than even the PS2. This is false but it's a common misconception. How did this idea get into people's heads? Negative word of mouth. Nintendo released realistic figures for the Cube which, although a very honest thing to do, made their console look significantly inferior on paper. So word of mouth spread. Not everyone is looking up gaming on the internet but they know someone who knows someone who knows someone who does and stuff gets spread around as a result. Internet geeks saw the Cube specs were by far the "weakest" and they told their friends the Cube was underpowered and they told their friends and it got spread around as if it's common knowledge even though it's inaccurate. So now Nintendo feels the Rev specs are "irrelevent". Well you only hide stuff when you don't want people to know, right? So obviously Nintendo is hiding weak ass hardware. That plus the "two or three times the Cube" comment just seals the deal. Even if it's false there's enough "evidence" for it to be "true". After all there's no denial from Nintendo on this issue. So it makes no difference if Nintendo hides the specs or not. The Rev is unofficially underpowered and everyone is going to know that by the time the thing's in stores and that's going to make a console that already has to fight for attention that much harder to sell. I'm not saying Nintendo should reveal the specs if they are lower. But just the fact that they have to hide them suggests that maybe they screwed up. I'm very interested in what the price is now. The ONLY reason to skimp on the hardware, at least from the consumer's perspective, is to have a lower price. So the Rev better be significantly cheaper than the competition. And I don't mean cheaper than the X360 launch price. It has to be cheaper than what the X360 costs when the Rev launches. Well realistically, yes, I would agree that only Nintendo would do that. But what did being honest about the Cube specs do for them? All it did was create the misconception that the Cube was underpowered. Specs shouldn't matter just like image shouldn't matter and marketing shouldn't matter. But they do, even if they shouldn't. So Nintendo can't just be all "well we've decided specs don't matter" and have everyone agree to it. Nerds are still going to compare hardware, decide the Rev is underpowered because of hidden specs, and then spread the word that the Rev is the weakest hardware regardless of whether that's true or not. So it make no sense to hide "good" specs because all it can do is benefit them and hiding, no matter what the specs really are, is going to hurt them. The fact that Nintendo is hiding the specs is "proof". Proof enough to declare it the weakest console anyway. And being excluded outright from the hardware discussion isn't that great either. Then the Rev isn't even a contender. It's that "Xbox or PS2" thing all over again. Why the hell not? Sony does it all the time and it hasn't hurt them. We're the only ones who care if Nintendo is honest about things like that anyway and we'll know they're exagerating for publicity purposes. The difference between the graphics probably won't be that noticable in real life. So why not say you can push 50 billion gigaflips or whatever and let those who care about that sort of stuff think you're better than you are? It's not really a lie if the games look and play great. Sony said the PS2 would have TOY STORY graphics! That has a huge lie and everyone caught them on it because the games looked nowhere near that level. But most people don't know what specs even mean. They just see a big number and think it's good. So give them a big number and then deliver great graphics and they'll be none the wiser. Nintendo themselves have said that the jump in graphics is shrinking. So if no one can see the difference then they'll be fine. But having this big ??? regarding the specs makes it look like they're hiding something. So why not kill the underpowered rumour and then the games really will speak for themselves. The multiple console features sounds pretty cool. I probably would never use it but I still like the fact that the option is there if I want it. Nintendo traditionally has been really inflexible regarding rarely-used functionality. It's like if 90% of the userbase won't use it they won't bother to support it. So it's good to see them including such a feature because a few years ago they would probably never have even considered it. No games shown until 2006? Hey Nintendo. You do realize there's this Xbox 360 thing being released this month that has, you know, games and screenshots and hype and stuff and is like a direct competitor trying to steal customers from you, right? Ever thought of, I don't know, releasing at least a f*cking screenshot to try to get people to actually know the Rev exists. I understand that they want people to play the games the first time they see them but the thing is if the games don't look pretty enough to stand on their own in screenshots then they're not going to be able to compete against the X360 or PS3 anyway. TV and print ads are probably the most common videogame ads and those cannot convey gameplay. The game has to look good to get people's attention. That's what draws them to the store demo or convinces them to rent the game. Why was Donkey Kong Country such a big hit? Because it had amazing graphics that got people's attention and when they tried the game out the gameplay delivered. A lot of people say gameplay over graphics but I think gameplay AND graphics are important. Nintendo wants to attract portions of the general public that don't play games. How do you get their attention? Well great visuals usually helps. Final Fantasy VII's famous commercial didn't show blocky polygons menu fighting. Why? Why can't a Rev game play great yet also look good in screenshots? If the games require one to actually play them in order to build interest then the Rev is screwed because trying a game requires effort and the general public won't put in the effort unless something that translates through television or a picture grabs them by the balls first. There is no reason why Rev games can't wow someone based on screens alone. No reason aside from any inane Nintendo stubborness anyway. If the games look like ass but play great then, yeah, waiting until they can demonstrate them fully makes sense. But there's no good reason WHY the games have to be that way.







I think Ian has a good point here.


Where?



Can't you read?  It's all genius.






IT'S A TRAP!



THAT IS A FASCINATING POINT YOU MAKE, SIR


The text column just gets smaller and smaller!  FASCINATING


Fascinating indeed.


Oh I concur.

I find this comment quite shallow and pedantic...Yes...quite...


It lacks deep literary references!

One fish, two fish, red fish, blue fish!


Are you mocking my superior state of mind? Maybe if I worked at a gas station, I'd know what you are babbling about.

Maybe if you worked in a Zelda game you'd be able to look around the room! >=O
I do not know why we are continuing this madness.

Then it's okay if we blame you for the broken scroll bar?



I don't know if it's a little late at this point, but I'd like to take note of the fact that the topic of the profit margin deficiency was conveniently left out of previous discussion.
To quote the person above then add nothing.......

Notice how the original post gets wider with every post? Let's try and make the original post fit on one line.






@%$@% forgot to quote pmsl!

Edit: wow! notice the left side of my post does not match with the rest of them...a PGC Forum first?


that's the way it is.

tl;dr <font color=38264D><span style="background-color: 38264D;">ror</span></font>


Thank you for your deeply constructive, and thought provoking contribution to this thread... which is now stretching my browser in cruel and unnatural ways thanks to all this quoting (irony of being apart of it noted).




Quote

Originally posted by: Spak-Spang
THIS TRAP HAS TO STOP!!!!

IAN SAYS:

I love Nintendo, and hate MS and Sony.
NO, I Love Nintendo, but wish they behaved like MS and Sony.
But, I Hate MS and Sony; and Love Nintendo...Yet Sony and MS Are Above and Beyond Nintendo Next Generation.


I dont know what to do with my life cos im poo.


oh no you dont!!! ah ha ha ha ha ah ha ha ha ha ha ah


If this keeps up, the original post may actually become readable.  (Oh yes, I went there)

t3h v3rb4llY pwnd!


i cant even tell who is saying what anymore. coz im dum lol



ok for one why do we even exist, i beleive that the world will end in 15 seconds from now in which
case we should all dance around naked and look for the secret fo truth which can only be found within
the lair of the elves, furthermore we should all see what the goblins are up to because they all have something
 interesting to say, because if the dont the we could all be in some trouble like the magical land of the gold fish eaters
who have large snouts and green hair that is  very attractive and appealing likew the horses that graise around hyrule that
i would like to ride like epona and various other animals like emus camels  ostriches llamas and even giant pigeons, also i would
like us to make peace with the demons in doom, why do we need to shoot them when we can hug them and they can be our
friends? Its not because i think their weird, its just that they are very unusual in the way that they act like elves and
dance like faires. I would like to write a storyt about these dkinn who in my younger years guided me through
the cavers where i met a minataur who chased me through  a maze and told me that i have to run a
million times around the earth like superman who could see through wals, also i would like to
 walk through walls and turn invisimble, because if i could do that i could go places
 that are unknown to the human perspective, also wouldnt it be cool if everyone in the
 world all had red porches. I mean that is just crazy tell me about it. so how are you. im fine.
cool cool. so whats up are you going to the river tonightr. i dont know. come on dont be a wimp.
well i dont know. dont be a wimp i dont want to. shut up and listen ok?


FIXED!!!


More like slightly less broken



Quote

Originally posted by: couchmonkey
F*ck it.  I can't quote all that.  And the problem with this thread is that Xbox 360 is coming out next weekend, and NOBODY HAS EVEN HEARD OF THIS FORUM.  I mean f**king f**k d*** f***.  How does PGC expect to win the forum wars with this disjointed S***?


Clearly we will quote our way to victory. The path is clear, my son, if you can see it.



So finally my wheel scroll is broken, thanks alot ¬_¬


Quick, everyone abandon topic while they can, the forums can't take much more at this stage.




bump








I concur, and this thread is now a black hole in terms of loading time.

hahaahhha, I have really fast broadband, so it only took seconds to load!!!!

can you do this?


It's seem to load alright for me with my 7 year old computer and the worst dail-up ever.


What happened to the Boondocks strips that I posted?





So ok am I the only person who read the entire thread? did anybody else notice the original post was copy/pasted and actualy repeated itself?



oh yeah and um... yeah, just yeah


MEGABUMP!!!


Nice.



this thread is SO made of WIN....

Go forth thread, destroy the new forum like the old! Mu ha ha ha!!!!!!
Ok, but only because you say so.
Because it had to be done.



I laughed every time I got to a new post.

PS-Don't click the spell check button when quoting this beast.

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So when are people going to be on today?

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Nintendo Gaming / Re: The Conduit
« on: June 27, 2009, 03:13:44 PM »
I experienced my first crashing glitch. I heard the sounds of the level and say the notices that people were being killed, but I was floating in a strange cloudy orange/brown space. I could see another player in the distance but I couldn't move or quit or anything. I had to power off and start the game again. Odd.

I was playing late last night but on one was on.

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Nintendo Gaming / Re: The Conduit
« on: June 27, 2009, 01:01:53 AM »
It looks like BWii night dies for the night and I just got back home.
If you wanted to play co-op then I'd play a few with you. We can do better than "C" rank!

OK, I'll play a bit with you first. Don't we still have a few co-op missions to beat as well? I think we only finished two.
You and I didn't play missions 1 and 3, I played those with Flames_of_Chaos. So if you didn't play those then they will be new to you!

We should probably pick this conversation up in the appropriate thread...

OK, we play 1 and 3 then. I can't post anymore after this one so I'll see you there.
(thankfully I got enough money to order a new computer that will be here next month and I can post wherever I want again)

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NWR Forums Discord / Re: Unclepost Bob Bumps
« on: June 27, 2009, 01:00:32 AM »
nice. gotta top that..but right now mega man 9 is priority ;)

And here it is:

I was browsing thru the forums late one night
When my eyes beheld an eerie sight
For a monster nipplebegan to rise
And suddenly to my surprise

He did the bump
He did the monster bump 
The monster bump
Bob must be in a slump
He did the bump
He checked his nipple for lumps
He did the bump
He did the monster bump 


My hat's off to you.

thank you, thank you *bows*

I'll try to have something better for next month.

And the prophecy goes unfulfilled.

Good things come to those who wait..

Apparently not. Let's never wait again.

How big can the quote monster get?
















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Nintendo Gaming / Re: Super Mario Galaxy 2
« on: June 27, 2009, 12:56:36 AM »
I wonder if I'm the only one glad to see the 100 coin star objective gone?

I'm very sad it is gone. I worked so hard on some levels to get 100 coins in a level of Galaxy and was devastated to see I only got a 1-up for my trouble. Star bits give you 1-ups! Coins have been relegated to health items. :/

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Nintendo Gaming / Re: The Conduit
« on: June 27, 2009, 12:52:56 AM »
It looks like BWii night dies for the night and I just got back home.
If you wanted to play co-op then I'd play a few with you. We can do better than "C" rank!

OK, I'll play a bit with you first. Don't we still have a few co-op missions to beat as well? I think we only finished two.

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Nintendo Gaming / Re: The Conduit
« on: June 27, 2009, 12:51:29 AM »
Seriously this game fucking rules, and kraken613 is pretty damn good. Every time I thought I was going to get a winning ratio, he'd kill me. This is the first time I used lock-on, about 15 minutes into the game too, I had totally forgotten about it until tonight.

There's a lock on feature?!?!

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