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Re: The Conduit
« Reply #2450 on: July 31, 2009, 01:02:38 PM »
What does leveling up do anyway?

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« Reply #2451 on: July 31, 2009, 02:18:51 PM »
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Is there a way to get a penalty to put your rank back down?

You don't get the points for that particular match. Why would you drop half-way through the match willingly unless you didn't care?

That's the thing I like about how HVS did the point system. Its not a public leaderboard, so there's no e-peens on grand display. It tracks your personal progress, and getting to the gold rank is feasible for everyone, though it may take longer for others. So there's no real plateau. You get 25 points here, 50 points there, next thing you know, its the next rank!

When you're ranked as high as I am '25 here and 50 there' don't do much for your rank.  ;)

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Re: The Conduit
« Reply #2452 on: July 31, 2009, 02:49:43 PM »
http://www.segasammy.co.jp/english/pdf/release/201003_1q_e_hosoku_final.pdf
SEGA Quarter 1 financial statement

The Conduit sold 150K units in North America, ending June 30, 2009.  Europe didn't receive the game until July 10.

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« Reply #2453 on: July 31, 2009, 02:52:01 PM »
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Is there a way to get a penalty to put your rank back down?

You don't get the points for that particular match. Why would you drop half-way through the match willingly unless you didn't care?

That's the thing I like about how HVS did the point system. Its not a public leaderboard, so there's no e-peens on grand display. It tracks your personal progress, and getting to the gold rank is feasible for everyone, though it may take longer for others. So there's no real plateau. You get 25 points here, 50 points there, next thing you know, its the next rank!

But if the match making system works in a similar fashion to Mario Kart Wii... the higher up you go the less entertaining the people become.

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« Reply #2454 on: July 31, 2009, 02:56:20 PM »
Indeed.
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« Reply #2455 on: July 31, 2009, 03:01:53 PM »
And thats why i want to go back down! Does resetting the wii in-game make me lose points?

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Re: The Conduit
« Reply #2456 on: July 31, 2009, 03:02:46 PM »
http://www.segasammy.co.jp/english/pdf/release/201003_1q_e_hosoku_final.pdf
SEGA Quarter 1 financial statement

The Conduit sold 150K units in North America, ending June 30, 2009.  Europe didn't receive the game until July 10.

LOL CAN'T TRUST NPD ANYMORE HUH
7 days in North America and it did that much. Can't wait to see July's sales.
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« Reply #2457 on: July 31, 2009, 05:02:08 PM »
If it did 150k in one week then it could break 400k before Summer ends.
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Re: The Conduit
« Reply #2458 on: July 31, 2009, 05:31:06 PM »
So What the heck... NPD is about as accurate as vgchartz?

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« Reply #2459 on: July 31, 2009, 06:17:35 PM »
I suspect these 150k "sales" are actually shipped numbers. Well they did sell 150k copies to retailers lol.
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« Reply #2460 on: July 31, 2009, 06:26:03 PM »
By Sony's dictionary, that's also success.  So Conduit is a non-casual triumph every way you look at it.

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« Reply #2461 on: July 31, 2009, 07:06:54 PM »
So What the heck... NPD is about as accurate as vgchartz?

It would be funny if VGchartz was actually the most accurate all along. ;)
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« Reply #2462 on: August 01, 2009, 04:40:26 AM »
Were almost to the 100th page for conduit :)

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Is there a way to get a penalty to put your rank back down?

You don't get the points for that particular match. Why would you drop half-way through the match willingly unless you didn't care?

That's the thing I like about how HVS did the point system. Its not a public leaderboard, so there's no e-peens on grand display. It tracks your personal progress, and getting to the gold rank is feasible for everyone, though it may take longer for others. So there's no real plateau. You get 25 points here, 50 points there, next thing you know, its the next rank!

When you're ranked as high as I am '25 here and 50 there' don't do much for your rank.  ;)

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You're just jealous ;)
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« Reply #2463 on: August 01, 2009, 04:59:48 AM »
Yep 100 pages coming up. 70 before release and 30 after.

I think sales will reach 1 million by the end of the year.
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« Reply #2464 on: August 01, 2009, 05:01:19 AM »
Almost there...

Say, Maxi, do we have a date for the Conduit tournament yet over @ WAD or is it still 'mid-August'?
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« Reply #2465 on: August 01, 2009, 05:06:51 AM »
It is mid August. Likely sometime the week of 16th-23rd.
That is just my guesstimating.
Probably going to have to have more people sign up before getting a date set.
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« Reply #2466 on: August 01, 2009, 06:34:56 AM »
That was one of the reasons I mentioned it, to get people here interested in joining it. I saw that BwrJim signed up.

LOL, how many of the members there are NWR people? There's you and I, Mop it up, Caterkiller and BwrJim. Am I missing anyone else?

I hope it isn't a bunch of 1v1 matches. I want a group fight with whatever weapons appear (though I loves me my SCAR :) )
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« Reply #2467 on: August 01, 2009, 06:58:59 AM »
That was one of the reasons I mentioned it, to get people here interested in joining it. I saw that BwrJim signed up.

LOL, how many of the members there are NWR people? There's you and I, Mop it up, Caterkiller and BwrJim. Am I missing anyone else?

I hope it isn't a bunch of 1v1 matches. I want a group fight with whatever weapons appear (though I loves me my SCAR :) )
There is Tanatoes and The North Sea. North Sea goes by TofuFury over there.

By my count that is 5 people that have the Conduit that is a member over there.
You and me,Caterkiller,BwrJim! and Tanatoes.
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Re: The Conduit
« Reply #2468 on: August 01, 2009, 07:07:47 AM »
http://www.segasammy.co.jp/english/pdf/release/201003_1q_e_hosoku_final.pdf
SEGA Quarter 1 financial statement

The Conduit sold 150K units in North America, ending June 30, 2009.  Europe didn't receive the game until July 10.

LOL CAN'T TRUST NPD ANYMORE HUH

Are those sales to consumers or sales to resellers? Don't blame NPD before then.

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« Reply #2469 on: August 01, 2009, 02:15:40 PM »
shipped or sold, tis the questions of a lifetime.   Well I think its just shipments, meaning from one wharehouse to others.  Still though, if that counts then Capcom made themselves an auto hit by shipping 3million copies of Monster Hunter 3.. (oh btw, the demo is really neat)
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« Reply #2470 on: August 01, 2009, 11:25:39 PM »
According to the report (it's at the bottom of the PDF) - those are units SOLD.
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« Reply #2471 on: August 01, 2009, 11:29:13 PM »
right on, thats good news then..  it has been a staple that if 150k units sell, its considered a success and warrents a sequel.   Since Nintendos business model is still the same for the most part (less cheaper of course) thats good news.
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« Reply #2472 on: August 01, 2009, 11:35:01 PM »
According to the report (it's at the bottom of the PDF) - those are units SOLD.

No it doesn't. It says Sales, but doesn't specify if its sold to retailers(who Sega is selling to) or sold to consumers(which they have no direct way to sell to.)
So the logical train of thought would lead you to believe that Sega sold & shipped 150k units of The Conduit tot he retailers.

NPD only tracks what the retailers sold (using educated guesses for Wal*mart & Toys R Us<i think>)

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« Reply #2473 on: August 02, 2009, 02:14:30 AM »
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But if the match making system works in a similar fashion to Mario Kart Wii...

You'd hit a plateau, unless you're the super cream of the of the crop and that's that. For a bridge game MK Wii's VR ratings is a hardcore aspect. Getting to 9999 the legal way is out of reach for the average gamer. In my prime, the best I could get was 7800. When I was prepping for a tourney a while back (training with Team Reggie) the best I could get was 6500 or so, and would go back down when I had some bad races.

But its tough to compare because MK Wii is so prone to chance, (That blue shell that hit you just when you got to the finish line, costing you first place, that kart that pushed you out of bounds in Rainbow Road, etc) and unless you can make a comeback, that situation that was out your control costs you dearly. Conduit, not so much, aside from the rare, lucky shot/grenade here and there.

Last I checked, people normally play games to aim for the best, be at the top, not settle for average or better than average. Settling for a set rank and pwning n00bs may be fun for a while, but then you stagnate, and those n00bs start pwning you. :-[ The Gold players I've come across are not all god-like; they're prone to a well aimed shotgun blast or rocket, they just know how to stay alive longer. In short, man up, and grow a pair  ;)

Sure, The Conduit's system is very RPGish, but it does reflect some level or improvement, and not severely punish you if you had a bad game. When I started out, I was getting owned left and right. Now at the 2nd to last Silver rank, I can hold my own.

Or if you don't care for ranks, and can play with friends whenever you want to, more power to you. Whatever makes you happy.

Oh yeah, sales. A rough way to measure is how many full games you join. The more full games, its selling.

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« Reply #2474 on: August 02, 2009, 02:37:24 AM »
ve ran into that before, the ase was just floating and you couldnt pick it up.. like that shotgun every now and then..  here is a little advice.   you know that loading circle that happens inthe middle of the screen?  always aim at the top of that.  After watching a lot of people, most people are pointing down.. not too many vital spots down there..  well one, but not a death blow.   

I like the rankings.  It tells me how much someone has played and thats it.  kind of nice.   still should try out single player I guess, but multi is too fun.

Speaking of Multiplayer, where has everyone been?
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