Shawnst3r, I love ya man, but you've made me beat my head against a wall. Repeatadly. Let's do this:
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Everything must be bound inside of a moral framework or a nation will eventually rot and collapse from the inside. I believe this is what you were referring to when you said:
"(which is leading us down a path towards ever-more-ridiculous self indulgence, but, in my mind, that’s an inevitable consequence of the kind of government we have.) "
Anyways, that framework I speak of is the Holy Scriptures. The further we pull away from that framework the closer to destruction we will come.
...except that this is a secular country, made up with people of various faiths/religions. You seem to want Christian-scripture-based morals to be legislated, and I'm not sure that that can happen with eroding the wall between church and state....and that wall is necessary to make sure that we don't become Taliban-controlled Afghanastan.
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My point is, do you remember the Storm that killed tens of thousands Indonesians? I can say with 100% ceratainty that was God's justice upon those people.
100% certainy scares me.
So, if the storm was divine retrubution, than can the same be said of the 9/11 terror attacks? And if so, is Osama bin Laden an agent of God? Chew on THAT for awhile.
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CONGRESS SHALL NOT MAKE A LAW FAVORING ANY ONE RELIGION OR RESTRICTING ANY ONE RELIGION! IT DOES NOT SAY THAT GOVERNMENT AND RELIGION NEED TO BE COMPLETELY SEPERATED. READ IT!!!!!!
From wikipedia:
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The phrase "separation of church and state" does not appear in the Constitution, but rather derives from a letter written by Thomas Jefferson to a group identifying themselves as the Danbury Baptists. In that letter, Jefferson referred to a “wall of separation between church and state.” James Madison, the father of the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights, wrote in the early 1800s, “Strongly guarded . . . is the separation between religion and government in the Constitution of the United States.” Ulysses S. Grant also called for Americans to "Keep the church and state forever separate."
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In short..... Evolution has 0 facts (every missing link has been proven frauds, no intermediate forms...etc) and is only popular because it offers an alternative to creation in peoples minds.
0 facts? There are a ridiculous amount of facts that support the theory of evolution. What you mean to say, I think, is that there are very serious gaps in the evidence. Which is a fair point, but these gaps don't actually
disprove evolution.
As for evolution only being popular because it offers an alternative to creationism, I doubt this highly. For one thing, Darwin believed in God. For another, while there are gaps in our knowledge regarding evolution, it's a theory (yes, "just" a theory, like the theory of gravity is "just" a theory) has stood up to rigerous scientific review. The same can not be said for creationism/ID. There is no debate in the scientific community regarding evolution vs. creationism because there's nothing to debate. The theory of evolution is based on
facts and was derived with the scientific method of coming up with a hypothesis based on observable phenomena and then conducting experiments to check that hypothesis over and over again. While the theory of creationism is based on
faith, is not scientific, and has no place in a science classroom.
....phew. Sorry, I know I should try and stay on topic, but I couldn't not respond to all of that.
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