Topic: PlayStation Vita (PS Vita) - previously known as NGP

[Adrock]

They released a $600 console and tried calling it a computer... that could play Ridge Racer.

[Shorty McNostril]

Didn't learn from the PS3 then did they....

[Stogi]

Major Publisher(s) Cancelling ALL Vita games and moving to 3DS Development?
Sony says: You are exaggerating.....
http://gamasutra.com/view/news/40335/Is_Vita_losing_developer_support_already_Sony_responds.php

In a story that went up on Nikkei's website today, written by Kiyoshi Shin, the head of Japan's IGDA branch, an unnamed source from the Japanese game industry says that "Major Japanese companies are canceling all projects intended for the Vita and are changing development to the 3DS."

original source

This is when the sound of grown men crying become like sweet music to one's ears.

Price Drop Incoming or Clearance bins for all!?

Drop the price anchor and release the HACKERS!

[Ymeegod]

Anyone want to guess at the US launch numbers?  3DS sold around 500K during it's first two weeks and people are mostly placing the Vita along the 220k mark.

Gravity Daze(Rush) was reviewed quite well in Japan (93% avg among the top 3 review mags) so that might be the first AAA game.  Didn't make it in time for launch but it's suppose to release some time first quarter maybe eariy second quarter.

As for the Vita failing, well it's a bit early to wave the flag but Sony needs to do something in Japan and it needs to be sooner than later.  Getting outsold by the 3ds 5 to 1 weekly would make anyone think twice about supporting it.

[oohhboy]

Way to NOT sell your handheld.

The PSV will only be available from specialist retailers for the Australian launch.

Choice quote:

“At this stage we are not stocking the PlayStation Vita, however it may be something that we stock at a later date,” read a statement from Big W and Target. K-Mart stated they will not be stocking the PS Vita at all because they are leaning towards products with lower prices.

Sony's response:

For the launch of PlayStation Vita in Australia, with the specific target market being the active gamer we have chosen to launch the console with a focussed retail channel strategy across national specialist game and specialist technology retailers. There is a long term vision for our revolutionary new hand-held platform, in the same way we had a long term vision for PS3, and anticipate that in line with this we will broaden channel distribution in the future.

"We are not retreating, we are advancing in another direction!".

[Ymeegod]

Don't most Aussie import anyhow?  I mean the Vita is listed nearly double what it is here in the states even after paying shipping and taxes it's still cheaper to get it from the good ole US then buying it local.

The Vita isn't regional lock like the 3ds so import away and save.

[Adrock]

@Ymeegod

What can Sony do though? I don't know if a similar strategy as Nintendo's Ambassador Program and price drop will have the same effect for Vita. Nintendo had 30 years worth of games to select 20 from whereas Sony has been rereleasing remastered compilations of their PS2 games. Giving these away for free is counterproductive. While that never stopped Sony before, it doesn't solve anything. Will anyone really get excited if Sony offered a few PS1 1st party titles. I can only think of a single 1st party title I really liked (Twisted Metal 2) and like most of the NES Ambassador titles, it hasn't aged gracefully.

On top of that, does Sony really have any exclusive killer apps coming up? Nintendo had 3 last year, 1 was a remaster of one of the most popular games of all time. Unlike 3DS, Vita at least had 1 really strong launch title but even that doesn't seem to be enough.

[Ceric]

I think a better tack for Sony is to leverage what they have in term of media might.  Any PSN game that can run on the Vita should run on the Vita, which should be all of them that doesn't use the camera in some way.  You should be able to to just have all the PSN games, Video, and Music you've bought from Sony work on the Vita.  Let's take this one step further.  Have something that will take your Blu-Ray movie and put it on your vita for you to watch for x amount of time.  Let the Vita be your extra PS3 Controller.  The Passport program needs to be here as well.  Every version gets the lowest memory card.

None of this is rocket science.  Its not time for drastic measures.  Closer to the Holiday season would be.

[Adrock]

Let's take this one step further.  Have something that will take your Blu-Ray movie and put it on your vita for you to watch for x amount of time.

Can Sony do this without movie studio support? Some movies come with a digital copy and they're typically $5 extra. I don't know if Sony can just enable this without indirectly promoting piracy. Someone would totally crack that within days to circumvent the "x amount of times" limit. It's a great idea in theory but it could end up being a total nightmare for Sony.

I like your memory card idea. It really should have been Sony's idea the very second they decided not to use SD cards.

[Ymeegod]

Just like with the PSN network issue, Sony could give people PSP/PSN games free of charge.  There's plenty of titles to choose from and you don't have to do anything to get them to play on the Vita meaning Sony wouldn't have to dish out any additional cash.  Or they could even to a voucher to an upcoming game (which I would rather have myself).
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Hard to say about upcoming exclusives but I imagine there's going be the expected games like God Of War something or other, Gran Turismo, Little Big Planet, ect.

There's plenty of director cut ports, which is basically the same as Legend of Zelda OoT 3D, like Persona 4 the Golden, Tales of Innocence R, or Monster hunter p3.

And lastly does exclusive matter?  Vita recieving tons of ports, some with additional content like Street Fighter X Tekken, Mortal Kombat, Ninja Gaiden, Rayman, ect. 

A few games that I'm interested in are a few cult hitters like the next Little King Story and valkyria chronicles 3 (which was an PSP game that never released stateside due to high-piracy rate).

[ejamer]

After finally getting my hands on a Vita last night, it was kind of disappointing.  Solid piece of kit, but somehow I expected something more... exciting. The OLED screen that people have been drooling over wasn't really anything special.  Also, I still don't care for the form factor even though it did feel better than the hulking PSP that came before it. (Is Vita really a good bit smaller, or was that just my imagination?)

Major Publisher(s) Cancelling ALL Vita games and moving to 3DS Development?

I have to admit, after seeing this happen to Nintendo generation after generation its nice to finally see the tables being turned for a change.

And yet Nintendo has always been fine and continues to successfully put out games and systems that are worth buying. I don't believe this report, anymore than I believed early reports that 3DS was doomed. It's probably just exaggeration and hyperbole... Vita will be fine.

[Adrock]

I think exclusives matter. Vita is getting a ton of ports but I already have a PS3 which I'd rather play these games on. I'm not going to buy new hardware to play games I already have access to. With the exception of Ocarina of Time 3D (depending on how you look at it), none of the games I own on 3DS are available anywhere else. Had they been released on the Wii, I absolutely never would have bought a 3DS.

[Ceric]

I'm to the point in my Life where I can't monopolize the TV.  If you told me that I can do everything I can do on the PS3 and transfer all my Disc based PS3 games to play on the Vita I would have bought one.

[Adrock]

While I prefer playing on a tv, the idea of transferring games is enticing. Unfortunately, I doubt Sony would ever allow that. You'd have to re-purchase all of your existing titles and get 2 versions of any future game. I barely have the money for Vita now so I certainly don't have the money to be double dipping.

[Stogi]

Your welcome.

[Chozo Ghost]

You can't fit that in your pocket.

[Stogi]

[broodwars]

You can't fit that in your pocket.

I'm pretty sure from my time with the demo unit that you can't fit a Vita in your pocket, either, unless you're MC Hammer.

[Ceric]

You can't fit that in your pocket.

I'm pretty sure from my time with the demo unit that you can't fit a Vita in your pocket, either, unless you're MC Hammer.

I can fit a VIta in my pocket.  I can fit a 3DS with the extended battery, a Samsung Focus, my keys, and some pens in one regular pocket I wear.

[Ymeegod]

"You can't fit that in your pocket."

Depends on how fat your arse is :0.  I'm american.

[Chozo Ghost]

I can't fit that in my pocket either. :p

[ejamer]

You can't fit that in your pocket.

I'm pretty sure from my time with the demo unit that you can't fit a Vita in your pocket, either, unless you're MC Hammer.

I can fit a VIta in my pocket.  I can fit a 3DS with the extended battery, a Samsung Focus, my keys, and some pens in one regular pocket I wear.

Otherwise, I have a hard time believing your claims.   




Seriously, GBA Micro is one of my favorite portable systems ever because it actually is portable. DS Lite/DSi/3DS isn't terrible... but is the absolute biggest that will fit comfortably in my pocket.  PSP is only portable if you are carrying a bag. Vita seems smaller, but still not something that I could envision carrying with me on a daily basis.

[Adrock]

I'm pretty sure from my time with the demo unit that you can't fit a Vita in your pocket, either, unless you're MC Hammer.

If you were MC Hammer, you wouldn't need to fit a Vita in your pocket since no one could touch it anyway. /bad joke

[Ymeegod]

And Adrock, Ceric was talking about Remote play which allows you to do just that, play PS3 games on Vita.  Right now I'm not sure which games have that feature but hackers couldn't wait and had games like BF3 up and running.  However this wouldn't make the unit portable since the PS3 is running the game not Vita. 

[Chozo Ghost]

I'm pretty sure from my time with the demo unit that you can't fit a Vita in your pocket, either, unless you're MC Hammer.

If you were MC Hammer, you wouldn't need to fit a Vita in your pocket since no one could touch it anyway. /bad joke

That was far worse than my Vita joke yesterday.