Author Topic: Twilight Princess Spoiler Discussion Thread (for those who have the game tomorrow) (Read 108424 times)

Smoke39 · « **Reply #350 on:** January 02, 2007, 12:22:05 PM »

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Originally posted by: Kairon
previous Zelda games I found unimpressive like WW and MM.

MM was awesomeness. You're BROKEN.

Kairon · « **Reply #351 on:** January 02, 2007, 02:02:35 PM »

I've actually come to appreciate MM more and more in comparison to Twilight Princess...

I'll go over the flaws later when I can find time to put my feelings and thoughts into a ginormous collection of digital text.

~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

Caliban · « **Reply #352 on:** January 02, 2007, 02:35:28 PM »

All Zelda games have flaws.

I am eager to read the "Kairon Decepticon Report".

Kairon · « **Reply #353 on:** January 02, 2007, 03:00:32 PM »

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I am eager to read the "Kairon Decepticon Report".

*shrug* It's not my fault the autobots don't have any cool insect transformers on their side.

~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

Caliban · « **Reply #354 on:** January 03, 2007, 02:42:30 AM »

hahaha

Mario · « **Reply #355 on:** January 03, 2007, 02:51:29 AM »

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YOU'RE POOP.

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Don't think so, but I had the "pointer" turned off pretty much the whole game.

Mario is also poop. For serious, turning off the pointer sucks.

I just can't stand the fairy, it was worth it.

Adrock · « **Reply #356 on:** January 03, 2007, 03:10:32 AM »

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Kairon wrote:
This game would've been an utter disaster if it had been released last year, a bigger, worse disaster than even Wind Waker.

What? Someone besides me disliked Wind Waker. Is the sky falling yet?

Kairon · « **Reply #357 on:** January 03, 2007, 05:45:28 AM »

Don't worry, we probably don't like WW for different reasons.

WW could've been an absolute classic for all time, and possibly the best Zelda game ever... IF it hadn't had lackluster dungeon design, not enough land, and hadn't been rushed in development. WW sorely needed another delay or two to have been the best game it could have been. Aside from that, I loved the concept, graphics, style, etc.

~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

Adrock · « **Reply #358 on:** January 03, 2007, 10:05:22 AM »

Yeah, I can agree with those points. To me, the biggest issue was the sailing. Most of the game is doing nothing except sailing and changing wind directions. It became such a burden once the entire map became available while yielding so few rewards. Someone is bound to flame me for that.........

I give Wind Waker credit for having the best story in the series (despite the plot holes), including my personal favorite, A Link to the Past. And though I prefer Twilight Princess' graphics, I loved the cel-shading. However, I didn't particularly like the character designs outside of Ganondorf, who was unquestionably badass in Wind Waker in like every way imaginable.

JonLeung · « **Reply #359 on:** January 03, 2007, 10:13:49 AM »

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Yeah, I can agree with those points. To me, the biggest issue was the sailing. Most of the game is doing nothing except sailing and changing wind directions. It became such a burden once the entire map became available while yielding so few rewards. Someone is bound to flame me for that.........

I give Wind Waker credit for having the best story in the series (despite the plot holes), including my personal favorite, A Link to the Past. And though I prefer Twilight Princess' graphics, I loved the cel-shading. However, I didn't particularly like the character designs outside of Ganondorf, who was unquestionably badass in Wind Waker in like every way imaginable.

You know, I think I agree with every single word that Adrock said there. I don't remember much about the story by now, but I will never forget how cool Hyrule Castle is, frozen in time at the bottom of the ocean.

I agree about the burden of sailing. It's too bad the 3D Zelda games' "overworlds" can't be full of enemies crawling around all over the place like the 2D ones. Wind Waker's was the worst because it was flat and solid blue, and then it was actually an annoyance when you encountered enemies because you really just wanted to have reached the next island by then.

Smoke39 · « **Reply #360 on:** January 03, 2007, 11:25:42 AM »

I'm with Adrock, except for the part where LttP is pretty lame. And I didn't think the sailing was the biggest issue. I could put up with the sailing if the rest of the game were actually interesting.

Kairon · « **Reply #361 on:** January 03, 2007, 11:38:32 AM »

I personally dug the sailing, it's just that their implementation of it failed, and they dropped the ball on creating meaningful content out in the wild blue yonder.

Also, <3 LTTP.

~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

Smoke39 · « **Reply #362 on:** January 03, 2007, 11:58:06 AM »

Exactly. There was like nothing in the ocean except for some rocks and a ton of useless rupees.
"HEY I BET YOU WANNA BUY SOME ARROWS RITE HERE HAVE A HUNDRED RUPEES"

Adrock · « **Reply #363 on:** January 03, 2007, 12:36:27 PM »

For me, all things considered, A Link to the Past is the best Zelda title. I think of subsequent Zelda games and A Link to the Past had the greatest impact on the series. For a game released in 1991, it was just way ahead of its time. The gameplay, the story, the graphics, the music... just everything was amazing.

Sure, A Link to the Past isn't perfect, but I feel that Nintendo made the absolute best possible game they could 15+ years ago. I can't say that about games today. Every game has flaws. I just think that in 2006, some things shouldn't be problems. In Twilight Princess, bosses shouldn't be total pushovers, the overworld shouldn't be empty and so on. Many sequels today, not just Zelda, have some of the same problems of their predecessors.

Smoke39 · « **Reply #364 on:** January 03, 2007, 12:58:43 PM »

For me, LttP was kinda boring. Later games weren't.

My logic is infallible.

UncleBob · « **Reply #365 on:** January 03, 2007, 01:35:33 PM »

Everyone who doesn't agree that Link's Awakening is the best Zelda ever is wrong. Even Miyamoto agrees with me.

Anywhoo, beat the game today. 115+ hours. Beat that!

(I had a lot of fun ust running around and doing stuff).

I'd like to say, I sure as hell hope Princess Zelda can make a better pie than she can aim a frinkin' arrow.

Hostile Creation · « **Reply #366 on:** January 03, 2007, 02:55:51 PM »

I agree, UncleBob. It's my favorite Zelda and by far the best game I've ever played.
A Link to the Past was alright, but it was too much dungeon and not another other stuff. That's why I love LA, MM, and WW so much.

IceCold · « **Reply #367 on:** January 03, 2007, 05:08:23 PM »

I happen to love dungeons, much moreso than the other stuff.

Smoke39 · « **Reply #368 on:** January 03, 2007, 06:31:20 PM »

Dungeon dungeon dungeon gets boring. Give me something else to do to break things up a bit, pls.

JonLeung · « **Reply #369 on:** January 04, 2007, 05:16:36 AM »

I will say this about Link's Awakening and Majora's Mask...both those games had more NPC interaction than other Zelda games that you actually cared about the people, especially considering that Koholint and Termina were doomed. It made for a better story.

Taking a break from Hyrule and Ganon and Zelda and the Triforce that half the games have is nice, too. It's classic, of course, but it's nice to mix things up now and then. If the Oracle games were more memorable I'd probably applaud those for the same reason.

In Twilight Princess, after rescuing people from being spirits in the Twilight, which they didn't even seem to notice, I don't think they even recognized that they were ever in any danger. Even after the barrier is up on Hyrule Castle did anyone care? Sure, the ragtag team of adventurers notice the "sad state of Hyrule Castle" but they seem to be the only ones.

I probably played Link's Awakening three or four times, more than any other Zelda game (most I've played twice) which was a mistake because I never really got into Link's Awakening DX. I have yet to tackle the Color Dungeon and the other things DX added.

Ceric · « **Reply #370 on:** January 04, 2007, 12:10:38 PM »

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I can't get to the Cave of Ordeals because of the Hot Springwater. Going the most direct route I can't take a bottle of it to anyone who needs it without it turning to water. This has plagued me the whole game. Here I am about to go into Hyrule castle and lay the Smack Down to finish the game and the only place I want to go is the Cave of Ordeals so I can finally see the stupid great fairy... Arrgggg

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It little things like this throughout the game that puts it right there with Wind Waker.

UncleBob · « **Reply #371 on:** January 04, 2007, 01:12:17 PM »

Wait... why do you need to bring hot spring water to anyone in order to go into the cave?

Mario · « **Reply #372 on:** January 04, 2007, 01:15:01 PM »

What the hell? If you're talking about that hot springwater run through Hyrule Field, just take the outside and its so easy. That pissed me off at first because I just ran straight through and kept getting hit by something, usually the damn things that come from the ground.

Kairon · « **Reply #373 on:** January 04, 2007, 01:16:12 PM »

[mean]They're called leevers. Get it right.[/mean]

~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

Zach · « **Reply #374 on:** January 04, 2007, 01:29:32 PM »

You do not need hot springwater to get to the cave of ordeals, you need to go to that big huge tower-looking thing on the horizon when you first cannon into the desert. Get up the platforms by using your clawshot on the things that fly overhead, once you are on top you get the option to warp that big chunk of rock, warp it to the bridge of Eldin. Come back to that spot in the desert to enter the cave of ordeals

For the hot springwater mission you need to talk to the goron outside of Malo's, the rest is pretty straightforward

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Author Topic: Twilight Princess Spoiler Discussion Thread (for those who have the game tomorrow) (Read 108424 times)