Topic: Fighting Games: JOIN THA WULFPACK

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I posted my Street Fighter x Tekken review today! http://fightmangame.tumblr.com/

[Squalid Pumpkin]

I posted my Street Fighter x Tekken review today! http://fightmangame.tumblr.com/

Those first two articles, the "Game Tournament Organizer Guide" and "Dracula for President", are hilarious! I think I missed most of the inside jokes in the Marvel vs. Capcom Changelog though.  :

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Yeah, there are a ton of really obscure jokes and references in every article. That's really just what I want to write, heh. I guess I'll explain the ones that might not be obvious... I promise you'll at least get some funny youtubes out of it!
 

Akuma
- Can now steal chi and use it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmm9nloN54o#t=30s
 

- New costume: hawaiian shirt and straw hat

Someone, I think an actual Capcom artist, once drew this really cool but maybe out of character Akuma art: http://i.imgur.com/rUcc3.jpg - I was really hoping this would be an outfit in SF4 :S
 

Amaterasu
- English voice now available

Amaterasu doesn't have a voice, just barks!
 

Captain America
- Changed ‘A’ on costume to ‘F’ for ‘France’

This comic book page, lol: http://www.superherostuff.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/ultimatecaptainamerica.jpg
 

- Captain America’s pet bald eagle, Soldier, now available as a projectile: Screamin’ Eagles

In the old Marvel games, Captain America used to say "GOOD JOB SOLDIER" when he won and a Bald Eagle would land on his arm. Also, Screamin' Eagles is a historical reference and lol TF2: http://boourns.cjb.net/screamin_eagle.jpg
 

- Fixed a glitch that caused Captain Falcon to display as Chris Redfield

Chris Redfield punches giant rocks and black people at a Falcon Punch level in Resident Evil 5
 

Chun Li
- We added Chun Li to the game! Please try her out!

Nobody plays Chun Li for some reason!
 

Dante
- Dante’s line when assisting with Trish has been changed to “sweet moves gurl”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yJI-xFk6Ho
 

- Corrected name to ‘Justin Bieber’

Dante has a passing resemblance to Bieber in MVC3 and commentators have mention this from time to time. My pal always says "WHO GAVE JUSTIN BIEBER GUNS"
 

Deadpool
- Now has web swing, spider-string, web ball, and web throw, but with guns

He also says "WHO GAVE SPIDERMAN GUNS"
 

Doctor Strange
- “Celery Shank” super name corrected in move list

When Dr Strange says "Spell of Vishanti" it sounds like "Celery Shank"
 

- Hosts of Hoggoth no longer hoary

"By the Hoary Hosts of Hoggoth" is a classic Dr Strange quote, of course!
 

Dr. Doom
- New mask-less costume that looks vaguely like Norm MacDonald, but is actually the guy from Nip/Tuck

This is a joke about the Fantastic Four movie
 

Frank West
- Photos Frank takes are now available for viewing from the menu

You can do this in Dead Rising and I honestly want this feature for UMVC3, it would be pretty funny!
 

Ghost Rider
- Fixed a bug that caused bees to put Ghost Rider in permanent hitstun

Ghost Rider = Nicholas Cage = OH GOD BEES http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1GadTfGFvU
 

Hawkeye
- Hawkeye now has a powerup super: ‘ludicrous gimlets’

'Gimlet' is one of Hawkeye's supers, and ludicrous giblets is a reference to Rise of the Triad and honestly I didn't expect anyone to ever get this. Maybe I should have made a joke about Hawkeye dies all the time
 

Hulk
- Hulk now gains additional meter from standing H and receiving bacon

Stand H has armor so it goes through everything and leads to hilarious Hulk success stories. Also a reference to this meme: http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/push-button-receive-bacon
 

Iron Man
- Gains new moves from powerup system. Input back, down, down/back+attack to drink scotch and throw the bottle.

Iron Man struggles with alcoholism in the comic books and is also kind of an asshole
 

Nathan Spencer
- To more closely implement Bionic Commando playstyle, jump has been removed

There's no jump button in the classic Bionic Commando, of course!
 

Nemesis
- Small black bars now censor violent penetration of opponent’s character

Nemesis attacks with his tentacles on occasion and the Japanese have a weird and useless way of censoring their bizarre tentacle porn!
 

- Now gets perks from noobtube killstreaks

Nemesis uses a rocket launcher and these are all Call of Duty references
 

Nova
- New costume added: pajamas with feet

Nova already has a pretty typical pajama-like superhero outfit
 

Rocket Raccoon
- Rocket Raccoon is now smaller

Rocket Raccoon is already annoyingly small and to make him any smaller would be pretty insane
 

Ryu
- To more closely reflect Ryu’s Street Fighter IV version, Ryu is now selected by 70% of online players

Pretty sure Ryu is far and away the most common character in SF4 online, but you really don't see him online that much. A lot of people joke that the 'trenchcoat mafia' (Dante, Virgil, Wesker) is the 'Ryu' of MVC3 I suppose.
 

Sentinel
- Made changes to help in matchup against catchphrases
- It appears to be a **** the knicks plugged in can’t do anything right mango

Very overused catchphrases from
mahvel baybee! : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZZUMjoxfZA
90s X-men Cartoon / Sentinels can't do anything right: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5v2RdxYGqk
 

Shuma-Gorath
- Each of Shuma’s expressions now more smug and/or saucy

Shuma-Gorath somehow manages these expressions even though he's a tentacle monster with one giant eyeball
http://uppix.net/d/d/d/b99b768531d0622285fbb56af63bd.jpg
http://images.wikia.com/marvelvscapcom/images/f/f8/Shuma-gorath.png
 

Spider-Man
- New matchup dialogue regarding Wolverine’s claws, sexual orientation

From the infamous parody of the Spiderman newspaper comic: http://danarchy.youfailit.net/Spiderman/ (#10). I play Spidey so naturally I say this all the time.
 

Super Skrull
- There is too much trash in the universe: Super Skrull now picks up litter to gain meter, community service time

Skrull says 'There is too much trash in this universe' all the time
 

Tron Bonne
- Use your save data from Megaman Legends 3 to unlock a new costume

That game is famously cancelled, lol
 

Vergil
- In-game mail system allows Vergil to receive letters from Dante

A reference to this meme-ish comic: http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/6725/119767809896vn5.png
 

Wolverine
- Changed a hitbox that caused Wolverine’s dive kick to be less than full screen

Wolverine's dive kick covers a really large area. ****. http://cdnimg.visualizeus.com/thumbs/ed/00/funny,hitbox,mvc3,stupid,trollface,wolverine-ed000c802e811fdbcf5beacf186ff30e_h.jpg
 

Wesker
- Fixed a glitch that caused Neo to display as Wesker

Wesker dresses like and as of RE5, moves like Neo from the Matrix
 

- In the interest of realism, Wesker’s OTG pistol changed to instant KO

Wesker is already ridiculously good and this is just silliness
 

- Wesker now removes his jacket when performing Phantom Dance for the second time and gains 15% speed and damage.
- Wesker now removes his pants when performing Phantom Dance for the third time and gains 15% more speed and damage.

A change in UMVC3 was that when Wesker lost his sunglasses (which he did when he either got hit a lot or did Phantom Dance), he gained a little extra speed and damage. A lot of people didn't like this because he was already good and didn't really need any boosts.
 

Zero
- Lowered Zero’s damage, but also lowered hitstun reduction to compensate

Zero's combos already take an annoyingly long time and this would make it worse
 

SYSTEM CHANGES
- Each character now has a new Megaman DLC costume!

Frank West and Zero already have them. There is still no Megaman in the game and a lot of people interpret this as 'rubbing it in'
 

- To reduce setup time at tournaments, button configurations have been disabled

Capcom (Japan) still refuses to implement fast, good button configuration options and it makes tournament players butthurt since it takes up a lot of time
 

- Ranked matchmaking optimized to match all players directly with either a player with a 0/0 record or Viscant

Viscant, the top player that won Evo, had no job and played online around the clock after MVC3 came out so chances are you would play him at some point if you played online much.
 

- Ultra X-Factor Pandora Gems are now available as DLC

Ultra = SF4 comeback mechanic
X-Factor = MVC3 comeback mechanic
Pandora = SFxT comeback mechanic
Gems = thing you buy to equip on your guys in SFxT
Fight game players complain about comeback mechanics a lot!

[Caterkiller]

Spoiler for Bad Box  Art Mega Man ending in the game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkYJEOstIL0&feature=player_embedded

This isn't real is it?

It's like the developers are saying Capcom will hold Megaman back and he will never be as big as a Nintendo franchise. It is kind of sad and unnerving that this could be real.


Let me start a rumor. Despite this being Sony exclusive, this is some kind of hint at a Nintendo, Capcom, Megaman collaboration. First up is a "real" Megaman game everyone is crying about and then, Smash Bros!


Yes all my post must have some connection to Smash. I should put this in the rumor thread. 

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I think you're reading too much into it!...

Also a lot of gamestops are doing midnight releases since Mass Effect 3 is coming out on the same day, if I'm not mistaken.

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SFxT has 12 "DLC" characters on the disc and they're not going to release them forever but guys with modded setups are playing them already asdlfkjas;lgha;lsjkf;

Akira from Virtua Fighter is guest appearing in DOA5

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SFxT music playlist with that sick awesome Final Fight music

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpVO5AgXsx0&list=PL59B61D5746B6F3EF&index=1&feature=plpp_video

[Ymeegod]

Capcom is kicking itself in the nuts again and again.  12 characters on disc and they lock it to make you pay for it later, so instead of the complete game you'll get 2/3 of it for the inital costs. 

One thing to have DLC on disc as a preorder bonus but forking money over just to get it unlocked?  What's next paying to unlock endings? 

[Morari]

Would anyone really mind if fighting games didn't have endings?

[S-U-P-E-R]

Capcom is kicking itself in the nuts again and again.

More like kicking *us* in the nuts

I played SFxT all night. Honestly, it takes months to feel out a fighting game (I think) but if you really want to try to squeeze an initial impression out of me, it's not good

[Dasmos]

it's not good

Elaboration?

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Play time: like half an hour of training and ~6 hours of versus mode with my pals. I tried a bunch of characters but mostly stuck with Rolento & Raven

Don't like
- still uses the bad kind of button config
- timer doesn't freeze during supers. I think other games have shown it's smarter to have the timer stop during long super move animations...
- gem loadout takes an extraordinarily long time and the defaults only have two of the three gem slots filled, which is dumb since there is literally no downside to having the basic gems (a few of them have some trade-offs). And just playing without gems requires a lot of time to make a no-gem loadout! For each character!!
- throw range is hilariously short. Some characters can work around it with the charge cancel and dash in but I'm not sure all of them can. For example, Rolento's forward dash seems really bad so I'm not sure how to open someone up who just blocks/pokes. Maybe I'll figure out good setups when I get some time with it at home.
- I kept wanting to short jump and super jump and I guess I was kind of disappointed that they weren't there... I've been playing a lot of KOF lately I guess. Which is really good! I guess what I mean is maybe it's a little too simple? It would be nice if there were more little systems like that in place, for more options...
- and you know, all the stuff about the fraudulent dlc

My friend was complaining about a general lack of anti-air moves, which apparently was something Capcom deliberately did to make jump ins better for some reason. I dunno how I feel about this.

Things I like
+ character roster is pretty good
+ backgrounds and music are hype
+ seems well suited for four player (I just played regular mode though, no scramble mode)

But you know, first impressions and all that, I might love it next month, but some of the things they've done just seem so dumb. Fans have been complaining about stuff like the button config forever and it's like they just don't listen at all.

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I played a little bit online today, the netplay seems amazingly good - I think it's actually using rollback based netcode! It's a Christmas miracle!! (here is a good thing to read if you want to learn about rollback-based netcode: http://gamasutra.com/view/news/34050/Interview_How_A_Fighting_Game_Fan_Solved_Internet_Latency_Issues.php )

SFxT is coming to Wednesday Night Fights and they're not allowing gems "until the USB saved gems/tournament mode patch is available" - I think the other upcoming tournaments will follow suit but I dunno. Personally, I would love it if tournament organizers and the community at large told Capcom to go take their DLC and and shove it. Heh

I expect they'll be streaming tonight! TOMORROW I AM AN IDIOT
http://www.twitch.tv/leveluplive

[Dasmos]

Cool, so most of your complaints are coming from being a serious fighting game enthusiast. I was worried that the gem system would be completely broken or something, but I'll probably enjoy it from most of the impression I've read.

[S-U-P-E-R]

Yeah, I have a feeling this will be a great online game but a terrible tournament/event game. That's the vibe I'm getting.
 
edit:
I mean if you play online, you don't have people waiting on you to customize your stuff. But it hasn't done anything to win me over compared to marvel/sf4/skullgirls/kof/sc5/etc
 
Also I caught the BlazBlue bug a couple days ago and want to play the hell out of it now. Guess I just needed to try Rachel

[Ymeegod]

Mortal Kombat (used) is on sale at Gamefly for $20, 99% of the time you'll get online pass as well.  Ordered mine and got a $5 coupon off for next purchase to boot. 

[Halbred]

SFxT has 12 "DLC" characters on the disc and they're not going to release them forever but guys with modded setups are playing them already asdlfkjas;lgha;lsjkf;

Akira from Virtua Fighter is guest appearing in DOA5

KASUMI!!!!!

[Ymeegod]

My Mortal Kombat arrived with it's online code intact (love Gamefly, best place to buy used games IMO) now I'm wondering what setup do most people use for the game for an 8 button layout? 

Just did the training mode and I'll start knocking down the story mode next.  Also picked up KoF XIII (Amazon lightining DoYD for $30) but that's a couple days away.

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You don't have to use all 8 buttons, y'know. Anything but the basic four attacks and block are shortcuts.
 
◩Tag  = Back Punch (2) + Back Kick (4)
◩Throw  = Front Punch (1) + Front Kick (3)
◩Flip Stance  = Front Kick (3) + Back Kick (4)
◩X-Ray = Block  + Front Kick (3) + Back Kick (4)

People generally refer to the attack buttons by number because it's really convenient and the actual names are retarded.
 
On a standard layout arcade stick, most people use this:
 
1 2 X X
3 4 B X
 
Feel free to use whatever you want though, it's not like you'll make your hands too retarded to play on the arcade version (because there isn't one). I shortcut tag above block, and some people like to shortcut throw. If you're fine with anything, you should probably use that since it defaults to that on the most common stick configuration.
 
Congratulations on your purchase of KOF XIII, that game is awesome!
 
SKULLGIRLS APRIL 4

[Sarail]

SKULLGIRLS APRIL 4

My god, yes. I'm ready for this game.

[S-U-P-E-R]

This is a landmark day because me and Rachtman agree on a thing! Nobody can resist the super fighting game of the future!
 
I guess there's a possibility that it could be moved back or forward a week or whatever, but XBLA marketplace shows it as 4/4. It's all in the hands of MS & Sony. The Reverge guys are literally not allowed to discuss the date (even now) and maybe don't even know it, lol.
 
Skullgirls official facebook page updates stuff pretty fast: http://www.facebook.com/skullgirls

[Sarail]

Haha, Ty. You'd be amazed at how much my eyes have been opened. I've enjoyed all sorts of games on multiple consoles.. and.. AND.. as crazy as it sounds... I really like Halo multiplayer. *GASP*

But seriously. Skullgirls is gonna freaking rock my face off. I can't wait to play it.. and lose horribly to you online in the process.

Bring it.

[ShyGuy]

JUST PIRATE SKULLGIRLS RIGHT SUPER? THOSE DIRTY CORPORATIONS DESERVE TO BE PIRATED! FREE THE LULZSEC SIX!

[ShyGuy]

My Mortal Kombat arrived with it's online code intact (love Gamefly, best place to buy used games IMO) now I'm wondering what setup do most people use for the game for an 8 button layout? 

Just did the training mode and I'll start knocking down the story mode next.  Also picked up KoF XIII (Amazon lightining DoYD for $30) but that's a couple days away.

DONT BE A SHEEP YMEE, JUST PIRATE THE GAME LIKE SUPER AND MORARI

[S-U-P-E-R]

Yeah you should pirate every game, especially on PS3.
 
edit: but i'm really good at SF2 ;_;