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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Official Wii Sales Thread
« on: December 27, 2007, 06:47:46 AM »
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Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
But you also have to factor in that WiiPlay is counted as one of those million sellers, when in fact 98.95% of people were buying WiiPlay for the second controller and not the $10 bonus game. That also severely skews the attach rate ratio, but I'm not trying to argue on behalf of the PS2, just stating something that should be taken into account when doing a direct comparison.
Uh..... correct me if I'm wrong, but Wii Play, in japan, sells by itself. Doesn't it? It's only the US that gets the bundle. So as far as these media create numbers are concerned, people are buying Wii Play for Wii Play, not a second controller.


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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Dear Reggie: Re: Bundles
« on: December 19, 2007, 11:40:50 PM »
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Originally posted by: UncleBob

"We don't have to remind retailers of the strength we have right now."
That's a pretty arrogant statement, IMHO.  It's not quite NES level arrogance, (as, ideally, there's been no bite to the bark), but it's pretty high up there.  You can't treat the retail stores like crap - unless you want to go to mail order only.
I just don't think you're going to get much support or agreement that Reggie is being a hypocrite or arrogant here. Retailer bundles are universally reviled and condemned for bundling multiple crap games, overpriced accessories, and needless unwanted "protection" plans. That's treating the manufacturer and customer like crap. Where as manufacturer one game system bundles are long standing, historically widely accepted, and usually offer savings (i.e. $15 discount on Zelda: PH, xbox 360 premium). That savings is called respecting the customer while pushing the agenda.

Even when they don't offer any savings, manufacturer bundles are still accepted because only one game is bundled and it is always a popular one with widespread support. In other words, they don't abuse you like the retailer bundles do. And if you *like* Wii Sports why are you complaining about the bundle in the first place? That's like throwing a hissy fit that Nintendo forced you to buy Tetris with your GameBoy. Oh the abuse! That accursed Nintendo, they're making me buy TETRIS.

So, no, Reggie is not arrogant or a hypocrite saying retailers can't bundle while his company bundles at the same time. You've got some hidden agenda otherwise.
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Face it, the Wii and DS is selling like *crazy* in stores and stores are still very reluctant to give up Sony's shelf space to Nintendo... Why is that?
I dunno about you, but i'm seeing quite the opposite. EB and Gamestop stores by me have replaced all the PS2, PS3, and PSP sections Nintendo Wii and DS software. The first thing you find when you walk over to video game in my BestBuy is DS and Wii software. Even the largest retailer in akihabara shopping district in Japan replaced the 1st floor with Wii and DS software which had been exclusively Sony's domain. Now it is exclusively Nintendo's domain. Sony is on the 3rd floor now where Nintendo use to be.

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Dear Reggie: Re: Bundles
« on: December 18, 2007, 11:02:01 AM »
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Originally posted by: matt oz

do you mean harbinger?  because if not, i have no idea what you're saying.
Ya. Thanks.

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Dear Reggie: Re: Bundles
« on: December 18, 2007, 06:51:20 AM »
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Originally posted by: UncleBob
Hello Reggie.

According to an article on Kotaku, Nintendo of America isn't fond of retailers forcing bundles on consumers.

So, I'm left wondering why Nintendo of America forces bundles on consumers?  Here in the states, we had to pay $30 more than Japan for our Wii because it was bundled with Wii Sports.  Over the Thanksgiving holiday, y'all released special edition DS units that were only sold in bundles for $20 more than the normal price of the DS (both with games I already own).

I too am all for letting the consumer decide what he or she wants.  Thus, I don't think it's quite fair to force bundles on us either.

Thank you.
Oh please, these are pretty meager bundles compared to the Walmart, GameStop, and ToyRus bundles.  As far as Zelda DS bundle, you're getting the game for $15 off. Give it to a friend for xmas. (that is what I'm doing) Or if you're not the charitable type go sell it on eBay for $30.

As far as Wii Sports, where's the vice and gnashing of teeth over the NES, SNES, and GameBoy, bundles of Mario Bros., Mario World, and Tetris? Oh geez let me guess, they're "games" right. No problems, no gouging there.... Or for that matter, what about xbox 360 core? Who in their right flipping mind is going to buy a xbox 360 core? It's very easy to say xbox 360 core is gouging the consumer, not giving them choice.

There are bundles that make sense and then there are bundles that are specifically designed for gouging. Reggie is talking about the latter.

You can't tell me that a modern day Mario Galaxy bundle with Wii would garner this much contempt. That isn't to say you can't express dissatisfaction or contempt for Wii Sports. But, lets not kid around here, the heart of this argument isn't that a bundled game is "not-fair" or impedes consumer choice. It's that you don't want to support Wii Sports since it is the harbinger of gaming doom.

Make that your argument, is what i'm saying. Because the consumers have spoken and Wii Sports is what they want. Hence this is no worse then Nintendo's past bundles, which were good things.  

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Nintendo Gaming / RE: No More Heroes for Wii!!!! ANOTHER UPDATED 12/3/06
« on: December 17, 2007, 07:21:18 AM »
So that's an 8.5. Cool. I'm excited to give it a try.

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Official Wii Sales Thread
« on: December 16, 2007, 09:51:11 PM »
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Originally posted by: Kenology

They sure did, but I knew that couldn't be right.  I just listened to their Wii-k in Review (that's in friggin' ACC format) and Matt confirms that ZDub sold 135k LTD.  Those are great numbers.
"friggin' ACC"? You mean, AAC right? If you've never heard of AAC, you'd best get used to it. It's the successor to MP3. Lots of companies are using it (Apple iTunes is the largest) because no licenses or payments are required to be able to stream or distribute content in AAC format.

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:What do people say about Nintendo being market leader again?
« on: December 14, 2007, 02:03:25 AM »
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Originally posted by: Kairon

I can generally agree with this and it causes me conflicted feelings. I want the same broadband acceptance that the PS2 got, and that's not possible without converting over these supposedly traditional gamers... feh.
Yea, I can agree with your feelings too, the broad acceptance. I'm an optimist though, so my feelings are that this will happen. Broad acceptance. Not only from gamers, but also parents / congress people. The latter will no doubt take longer, but it'll happen. I mean, games aren't the first thing to cause controversy with parents and statesmen. What about Movies and Comic books? My guess is that all this commotion and upheaval that Nintendo has wrought onto video gamers will fade away and we'll still have games like Bioshock and Half-life and that what ever comes to be won't be as bad at all.

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Nintendo Gaming / RE: Official "Virtual Console Mondays" Thread
« on: December 10, 2007, 12:28:43 PM »
hm.. so this is unstuckified now?

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:The 'I don't feel so stupid standing ten hours in line one year later' thread :)
« on: November 27, 2007, 03:12:06 AM »
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Originally posted by: ShreddersDojo

Now watch as I burn down your villages and steal your turkeys ...........
Hell has no wrath like a grammar Nazi scorned.


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Nintendo Gaming / RE:The 'I don't feel so stupid standing ten hours in line one year later' thread :)
« on: November 27, 2007, 02:46:27 AM »
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Originally posted by: ShreddersDojo

Not as annoying as the spelling police.  so screw me....I forgot too re-check it.
'forgot to' not 'forgot too' you barbaric brute.

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:So, is the Wii Zapper worth getting?
« on: November 26, 2007, 12:49:02 PM »
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Originally posted by: GoldenPhoenix

Like I said Nintendo has been molesting and selling out the Mario franchise since almost day one, and yes I consider the Mario Kart games and any other "spin off' not related to the genre of that particular game to be whoring out the franchise to sell games. Four-Swords is 50xs the game then Crossbow Training is, and it retains many of Zelda's key components, puzzle solving and great boss battles.
Hm... So if LCT was fleshed out more to a $40 or $50 game, perhaps sold independently, you'd stop your shenanigans? I mean, these ridiculous claims that LCT is on level or worse then the CDi games. You want to talk molestations? CDi Zelda is molestation of the franchise. Hotel Mario is molestation of the franchise. Mario Kart, Smash Brothers, Four-Swords these are the opposite of molestation. These are tender, loving, awesome extensions of the franchise. LCT is short, but I can't believe you're calling it CDi level molestation.

 

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:So, is the Wii Zapper worth getting?
« on: November 26, 2007, 10:22:07 AM »
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Originally posted by: GoldenPhoenix

Well i played and beat Zelda Crossbow Training. While it isn't terrible by any means, I'm not even sure it is worth $20 considering I beat it in 40 minutes or so. For a game that ripped everything from TP I would have thought they could have used more of the boss battles which were the highlight of the games SHORT lifespan.
I don't think anyone is dismissing that LCT is short or could/should have this or that. But what do you expect for $10? It's just supposed to be a pack-in that is fun and gives some value to the initial Wii Zapper purchase.

What I do think most people are dismissing here is that LCT is "molestation" of the Zelda franchise. Hey, it's your opinion, you don't have to agree with us. Perhaps we need to just agree to disagree. But, LCT is really no more of a molestation then Mario Kart. Link is not suddely firing a Star Trek phazer gun or the Half-Life gauss gun. A crossbow is not out of place in the medieval-esqe Zelda universe nor is target shooting, even the bomb arrows come direct from Zelda.

Just as Mario Kart has made the Mario franchise IP better over all, Four-Swords Zelda has made the Zelda-franchise better over all. Since, now you can play a Zelda with a friend or three, just like with Mario Kart. Neither Four-Swords nor LCT should be a *replacement* for a traditional Zelda, but I think they do make great in-between games. Just like Mario Kart or Super Smash Bros are great in-between games.

Hence why I do not, at all, view LCT as any abomination, molestation, or whoring of the Zelda IP.

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Nintendo Gaming / RE: So, is the Wii Zapper worth getting?
« on: November 25, 2007, 09:24:43 PM »
Even better, did you or stop to think, geez, Galaxy would be so much more fun if they never made Mario Kart? No. Of course not. Because Mario Kart is made of epic win. Not withstanding the Mario franchise is better off because of this "whoring", this molestation, as GP would have you believe it is.

Link's crossbow training is no different.

GP is made of fail and lose.

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:So, is the Wii Zapper worth getting?
« on: November 25, 2007, 12:54:18 PM »
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Originally posted by: pap64

Just in case, I don't mind Link's crossbow training. I am trying to guess why some people are annoyed by it.
Yea, for the record, I wasn't slighting you.

Getting back on topic.... (I'll try, at least)

Whether or not Wii Zapper is "worth it", I'd hazard a guess, is going to be subjective. Find a friend, maybe ask at an EB/GS if you can demo one. Regardless, I think you'll get $10 of enjoyment out of the game. If the Zapper does nothing for you, you can sell it for $10 to a friend that wants an extra, or on Craig's list, or eBay. Hell, i'll buy it from you for $10.

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:So, is the Wii Zapper worth getting?
« on: November 25, 2007, 12:10:33 PM »
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Originally posted by: pap64

I think what she means is that this is the first time Nintendo has used the Zelda series to sell a peripheral and created a spin off like mini game disc to do so.

In short, "the first time Nintendo has whored Zelda outside the main games".
Perhaps this is just nitpicking, but didn't Nintendo "whore" out Zelda with the 4 swords adventure game to sell GBAs and link cables? Or use the mainline GBC Zelda's to pimp the GameBoy Camera? What about the Tingle Tuner in Windwaker?

It just seems rather arbitrary to now call "molestation" on something that has been standard issue, and well recieved, in nearly all Zelda games. Why can't that, like 4-swords was, be fleshed out into a game that will give value to the Wii Zapper? Link's crossbow training is quite short, maybe an hour or two to get all platinum medals, but it is by no means a crappy game.  

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:So, is the Wii Zapper worth getting?
« on: November 25, 2007, 11:25:13 AM »
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Originally posted by: GoldenPhoenix

I haven't played Crossbow traning yet, but so far I don't see how you can lose if you can stomach the molesting of the Zelda franchise to create a shooting gallery style game. I'm interested in trying out the zapper, and will hopefully get that chance later tonight
Oh come on. All of the recent the mainstream mainline Zelda games have a shooting gallery style mini-game, in them. Tell me how many have not had some kind of archery or hookshot aiming skill game to earn rupees or heart containers or other helpful items.

So why is pulling out the archery skill test mini-game contained with in mainline Zelda games "molesting" the Zelda franchise?  

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Nintendo Gaming / RE: Official Wii Sales Thread
« on: September 27, 2007, 11:38:06 PM »
What did I say... I called it back on page 99! This is the end. Nintendo files for Japan's equivalent of a US Chapter 7 Bankruptcy (total liquidation) at the end of fiscal '07.

They got 50 million people to buy in on the gimmick. Which is quite an accomplishment. But the blinders are gone. And this weeks numbers only prove how much the better the PSP actually is.

Good riddance.

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/09/2007)
« on: September 10, 2007, 03:12:40 PM »
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane[...]

No one gives a sh!t about Mega Man or Bomberman games anymore.  Those games might still sell but no one looks back and reflects fondly on a GBA Bomberman because so many games have been released for that IP that at some point they all just blended into each other.
Really, you think noone cares about Mega Man or Bomberman anymore? For shame Ian.

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Official Wii Sales Thread
« on: September 07, 2007, 12:47:38 PM »
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Originally posted by: Louieturkey

Holy crap, the DS dropped below 100,000 for a week.  It's failing again.  The Wii has had its lowest week ever.  Japan hates Nintendo.
Yea, it's all over. The Nintendo bubble has finally burst. The holiday numbers will be the last whimpering, before the complete collapse of the Nintendo fad.

I would be surprised to hear rumors of Chapter 7 bankruptcy by the end of fiscal '07.

Nintendo is dead! Long live Nintendo!

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Nintendo Gaming / RE: Official Wii Sales Thread
« on: September 04, 2007, 09:26:42 AM »
It doesn't have to be a game OR a controller. You can get BOTH if you buy Wii Play. You get a game and an extra controller!

The ladies will love you for it.

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Official Wii Sales Thread
« on: September 02, 2007, 06:20:34 PM »
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Originally posted by: mantidor

Add one more, I gave in and bought one
Hey, welcome to the party.

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wiisports is the lamest thing I've had to witness, I can't wait to buy a real game! hopefully tomorrow
Now burn for your blasphemy!

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Nintendo Gaming / RE: Official Wii Sales Thread
« on: August 30, 2007, 07:32:23 PM »
Post Golden Week, I gather.

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Nintendo Gaming / RE: Official Wii Sales Thread
« on: August 30, 2007, 06:09:42 PM »
Geez, only 100k DS lite sold this week? Is the fad coming to a screeching halt? Guess that means Sony might have more then 2 months remaining to call the PS2 the top selling video game system in Japan.

Maybe the PS2 could hang on till Thanksgiving!

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Metroid Prime 3 Revolutionized
« on: August 30, 2007, 09:13:35 AM »
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Originally posted by: GoldenPhoenix
All I can say is WOW, this game is even better than Metroid Prime 1. It feels like the ultimate conclusion to a fantastic triliogy, they integrated the other NPCs perfectly and it has some of the coolest moments in recent memory. It does all this while still feeling like a Metroid game. Same ole gameplay my behind, this game stands out from MP1 and more than likely 2 in its focus.
So maybe the Nintendo Power score isn't so biased after all?

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Official Wii Sales Thread
« on: August 30, 2007, 01:13:33 AM »
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Originally posted by: Michael8983

Still I wish Nintendo had SOMETHING for the non-gamers this year. I mean how hard would it have been to throw together a Wii Play 2 if nothing else.
Well, anymore non-games this year and Ian and company would go off the deep end about how Nintendo is punishing its loyal fans. Not like they aren't already, but you get the picture.

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Around the holidays Americans get fat then come New Years they all make those resolutions to get in shape. That's why gyms get so many new members at the start of the year. If Nintendo releases Wii Fit in the first quarter it can capitalize on this phenomenon [...]
As much as the "intarwebz" like to proclaim Nintendo idiots without a clue... Nintendo is not stupid. And I could totally see this as their US strategy for Wii Fit.

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