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Re: Oh Em Gee iPhone 4 yay!11
« Reply #100 on: July 06, 2010, 02:34:47 AM »
I posted earlier about the tests I did with my iPhone, where I noticed a huge drop in upload speed. Well, according to this article, that may have had nothing to do with how I was holding the phone. It appears that people all over the country are reporting these low upload speeds, leading some to believe that AT&T may be capping iPhone upload speed.

This bothers me a hell of a lot more than the death grip problems, because, unlike that, this affects me. I seem to live in the only place in the country where AT&T coverage is actually really good; I've never had any problems with dropped calls, and I usually get about a 2 megabit connection over 3G. I had no complaints with AT&T until recently, but now in less than two months they've done two things that have really pissed me off, the first being charging for tethering despite limiting the amount of data. Even that can be sidestepped by jailbreaking; there's no way around this.
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Re: Oh Em Gee iPhone 4 yay!11
« Reply #101 on: July 06, 2010, 01:30:24 PM »
Capping upload speed was inevitable. Not, that I agree with it, I just saw it coming. They've been saying how the problem with their network was 20% of users using 80% of the traffic or something to thay effect. Which is stupid because that's saying everyone with a smart phone is using all the data when they're the only ones who need it. They said they would fix that issue in a way that didn't involve fixing their network. It started with the data plans and is coming to this.
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Re: Oh Em Gee iPhone 4 yay!11
« Reply #102 on: July 06, 2010, 03:50:33 PM »
I love how so many people were quick to say AT&T was "right" for changing their data plan pricing because "98% of users used less than 2GB/mo" - I wonder if that has anything to do with the fact that you are *forced* to sign up for a data plan with just about any phone on AT&T now (if not all of them), so most people are paying for something that they know absolutely nothing about.
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« Reply #103 on: July 06, 2010, 03:56:16 PM »
Capping upload speed was inevitable. Not, that I agree with it, I just saw it coming. They've been saying how the problem with their network was 20% of users using 80% of the traffic or something to thay effect. Which is stupid because that's saying everyone with a smart phone is using all the data when they're the only ones who need it. They said they would fix that issue in a way that didn't involve fixing their network. It started with the data plans and is coming to this.
**** AT&T.

That's not quite it. The issue stems largely from the fact that they said UNLIMITED. So certain people get Jesus Phones and use it as such. That number is small but still large enough to unbalance the network. So they applied a quota which generally applies to most - but not all - people because then it encourages the higher users to actually pay more or reduce their use. Therefore the network can invest more. That's how its "supposed" to work.

But then, its unlimited. How can people be pissed because the network took away their infinity?

Here O2, Orange and Vodafone did the same thing. They've now all dropped the "unlimited" moniker concerning data and now say varying amounts between 500-1GB a month and the majority provide "unlimited wifi data" on various wifi networks to push the demand off the mobile network. Of course thats just handing off the issue from one pillar (the mobile network) to another (the wifi network).

So 3 - yes we have a network called "3" - abolished the word "unlimited" altogether. When they meant unlimited texts they now mean 5000 texts, and so on.

Unlimited by definition allows users for increasing amounts of flexible demands because there's just no limits. Like the word suggests. But then eventually the line has to snap somewhere. And here we are, with the network creaking.

I'm not really surprised at what AT&T's done but its not their fault that their users used the phones willy nilly. For which it IS their fault for telling them that they can.

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« Reply #104 on: July 08, 2010, 09:33:43 AM »
And for nickmitch: The upload speed being capped isn't intentional apparently.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/07/07/att_hsupa_software_glitch/

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Re: Oh Em Gee iPhone 4 yay!11
« Reply #105 on: July 09, 2010, 03:33:13 AM »
Man, I've been having bad luck with electronics lately. I had to get a replacement for my new hard drive because it was dead out of the box, I just sent in my DSi for repair, and now I may need to send back my new iPhone. There's a crack in my screen, which I noticed a while back but wasn't too worried about, but it's getting bigger.
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« Reply #106 on: July 13, 2010, 01:11:14 AM »
Finally got the phone last Wednesday, from Best Buy.  Then Apple called the next day with one.  So hopefully everyone who wants one can get it if they're fierce enough.  I love it.  And surprisingly, I haven't had a dropped call yet and I constantly have to juggle what I'm holding and sometimes I hold my phone in ways that are now inappropriate.  It may not be the phone for everyone, but its almost exactly what I wanted.  Feels like there is a Ferrari in my pocket. 

One question, my friends do not have the new phone.  In fact, I don't know anyone I can do "facetime" with.  I want to try it out, are there any fun apps you guys have found for it that let you Facetime with randoms other than the 99 cent Chat Routlette app?
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Re: Oh Em Gee iPhone 4 yay!11
« Reply #107 on: July 13, 2010, 09:26:04 AM »
Feels like there is a Ferrari in my pocket.

My girlfriend laughed. :P

But seriously, I love my iPhone 4.  I, too, haven't tried out the FaceTime feature yet... but I think it's so incredible that deaf people can use a phone in this manner now.  I love the commercial that Apple has shown using this.
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« Reply #108 on: July 13, 2010, 11:43:57 AM »
I still don't think it's going to happen, but there's growing talk of an Apple recall of the iPhone 4 because of the signal issues. The issues don't really bother me, but that would be one way to get rid of the unsightly scratch I somehow managed to get on the screen of mine.
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« Reply #109 on: July 13, 2010, 11:42:49 PM »
One question, my friends do not have the new phone.  In fact, I don't know anyone I can do "facetime" with.  I want to try it out, are there any fun apps you guys have found for it that let you Facetime with randoms other than the 99 cent Chat Routlette app?

I think there was a number you could call on Apple's site that let you test out facetime with Apple service reps.
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« Reply #110 on: July 14, 2010, 05:12:56 PM »
I love the new iphone. Not that I own it, but Apple stocks has dropped 8% since it's release, their reputation has been ruin, the myth of their quantity has been shattered, a possible recall would cost them billions, and their trendy fad is dieing. ;D

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« Reply #111 on: July 14, 2010, 05:30:58 PM »
Apple stock being down and the vast cost of a possible recall are related. Once it becomes clear that they're not going to recall it it'll go back up. I think the fact that they're still going to do record sales numbers despite a documented issue like this proves that Apple's not going away any time soon.
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Re: Oh Em Gee iPhone 4 yay!11
« Reply #112 on: July 14, 2010, 05:55:55 PM »
I love the new iphone. Not that I own it, but Apple stocks has dropped 8% since it's release, their reputation has been ruin, the myth of their quantity has been shattered, a possible recall would cost them billions, and their trendy fad is dieing. ;D

Hopeful the iphone 4 marks the beginning of the end of Apple. :evil;

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What would be more likely--and cheaper--is that Apple could issue a free rubber bumper case with each phone. That would prevent a person's hand from coming into contact with the phone's antenna, which is built into its exterior metal strip. Although Apple charges $29 at retail for the rubber cases, Bernstein estimates that giving them away to iPhone 4 customers would cost the company $1 per unit.

3000% markup for a rubber case?

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« Reply #113 on: July 16, 2010, 01:03:49 AM »
One question, my friends do not have the new phone.  In fact, I don't know anyone I can do "facetime" with.  I want to try it out, are there any fun apps you guys have found for it that let you Facetime with randoms other than the 99 cent Chat Routlette app?

I think there was a number you could call on Apple's site that let you test out facetime with Apple service reps.

Oh man, I'm totally doing that.  You never know who you'll be paired up with....and we should also have a contest to see who can keep the rep on the phone the longest.
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Re: Oh Em Gee iPhone 4 yay!11
« Reply #114 on: July 16, 2010, 11:36:54 AM »
I love the new iphone. Not that I own it, but Apple stocks has dropped 8% since it's release, their reputation has been ruin, the myth of their quantity has been shattered, a possible recall would cost them billions, and their trendy fad is dieing. ;D

Hopeful the iphone 4 marks the beginning of the end of Apple. :evil;

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What would be more likely--and cheaper--is that Apple could issue a free rubber bumper case with each phone. That would prevent a person's hand from coming into contact with the phone's antenna, which is built into its exterior metal strip. Although Apple charges $29 at retail for the rubber cases, Bernstein estimates that giving them away to iPhone 4 customers would cost the company $1 per unit.

3000% markup for a rubber case?

You should see the mark up on most of the things you buy. Clothing is the worst, but you can see similar markups on things like HDMI cables.
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Re: Oh Em Gee iPhone 4 yay!11
« Reply #115 on: July 16, 2010, 11:43:25 AM »
I buy my cables from monoprice. If there is a markup on a $4 sorry, $3 6ft HDMI cable, I'm pretty sure it is marginal.

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Re: Oh Em Gee iPhone 4 yay!11
« Reply #116 on: July 16, 2010, 01:58:55 PM »
That's good. Back when they were at least $15 the mark up was several hundred percent. It's like that with most accessories, I think.

But Apple had their press conference today, and the company will give out free bumpers.
Steve said what you'd expect: 'It's not as big of a deal as everyone is making it out to be' 'Our customers are awesome' 'We're gonna deal with the issue anyway' 'I was just vacationing in Hawaii' etc.

Also, if you already bought one, you get a refund. Unless you bought a 3rd party one. The reasoning for that is spite.
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« Reply #117 on: July 16, 2010, 02:29:19 PM »
This apple press conference is a bit of a vindictive train wreck.  I came up with a great script for a new Verizon Droid commercial.

Two people standing on a white background.

Droid: "Hi, I'm a Droid."

iPhone4: "Hi, I'm an iPhone4."

Droid: "You look down, iPhone4."

iPhone4: "I know... it's just that, everyone is being so mean to me.  I can't deal with it.  My daddy says that it's their problem and that I'm fine the way I am.  I just don't know though. They are all so mean."

Droid: "Aw. Don't worry iPhone4. Just ignore them and live your life the way you want to."

:Droid walks over and puts his arm around iPhone4:

:iPhone4 immediately disappears:

Droid: "Dammit. I knew I wasn't supposed to hold him that way.
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« Reply #118 on: July 16, 2010, 04:22:41 PM »
This apple press conference is a bit of a vindictive train wreck.  I came up with a great script for a new Verizon Droid commercial.

Two people standing on a white background.

Droid: "Hi, I'm a Droid."

iPhone4: "Hi, I'm an iPhone4."

Droid: "You look down, iPhone4."

iPhone4: "I know... it's just that, everyone is being so mean to me.  I can't deal with it.  My daddy says that it's their problem and that I'm fine the way I am.  I just don't know though. They are all so mean."

Droid: "Aw. Don't worry iPhone4. Just ignore them and live your life the way you want to."

:Droid walks over and puts his arm around iPhone4:

iPhone4's Bars Drop and then :iPhone4 immediately disappears:

Droid: "Dammit. I knew I wasn't supposed to hold him that way.

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Re: Oh Em Gee iPhone 4 yay!11
« Reply #119 on: July 16, 2010, 06:17:35 PM »
As I've said, this issue never affected me, but I'll take a free bumper.
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« Reply #120 on: July 16, 2010, 10:32:46 PM »
No you won't, because they're not giving out free bumpers, they're giving out free cases.
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« Reply #121 on: July 16, 2010, 11:12:15 PM »
I was under the impression that the bumper would be one of the choices; the others are there because they haven't made enough of the bumpers to give out to everyone. Either way, I don't care. I wasn't planning on buying a case, but I'll take a free one if they're giving them out, as long as they have one I like.
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« Reply #122 on: July 17, 2010, 10:44:26 AM »
Oh, maybe I misread the log on Engagdet...anyway, still you probably won't get one since they'll surely be the first to be depleted. Just get a refund for your phone and get something with Android on it.
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« Reply #123 on: July 17, 2010, 02:39:28 PM »
Can i ask a generic mobile/cell phone question?

In america is there "sim only" plans? Where you effectively pay for the sim card on a rolling one-month contract?

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« Reply #124 on: July 17, 2010, 04:37:44 PM »
AT&T and T-Mobile would have a plan, but they don't talk about it much.
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