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I believe this is what they were confusing the NX for lol.


I don't know. That sounds more like the behavior of guys who make YouTube videos with "inside" information.

and EG has a perfect record.. right? :P

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in case any one wants to have a clue as to what MG might be talking about, and I'm only guessing because he didn't specify, skip to 6:21 in the video.

and if that's the case, that's exactly why Nintendo tries to keep it's cards so close to it's chest, so that competitors can't come to market with something similar before they can launch.

It's the tablet with wii remote like detachable controllers, I just don't believe the NX is a hybrid handheld at all.
Just like the mock ups and patents they had showed. I believe this is what they were confusing the NX for lol.

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Looks like what EG was on about http://youtu.be/y-8dXWgrWRc lmao

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So far we only have two competitors in the Videogame industry..... What... am I missing someone you say? Oh that's right.. Microsoft. From what I hear they may not be staying in the console race for much longer, as shareholder aren't happy and there's talks of pulling from the gaming division.. but we'll see.

We've been hearing those rumors for years. I'll believe it when we see it.

And each year we get closer and closer.

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I don't understand why the lack of reporting by EG means that they're back-pedalling. How are you guys able to leap into these conclusions.

It's not hard to :p

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SMD64 chastising Eurogamer for not having updates on their initial reporting is hilarious considering he's been flogging the same rumor for months now. He's not said anything new in these months, he's just regurgitated the same spiel in every new video. Eurogamer's reporting is still valid because nothing new has been brought to the table to refute them. It's all been speculation. It's all gone back to the same "AMD 3 design wins" which oh by the way, Eurogamer also reported on earlier this year.


Also, he took Ubisoft's comments of "NX being back in the race" at face value.

No EG's reports are not valid in any sense of the word until nintendo unveils it and it's near what EG "Claims" it to be!

The 3DS never panned into what EG claimed it was, and it's the same guy who's stating once again with the tegra.

Speaking of which, EG has had nothing new to report since, feels like they are back pedaling on something.

Plus we've heard that Nintendo has upped the specs on the NX to include AR/VR support, should they decide to go that route.

Just be thankful that Nintendo isn't Sega, for those who remember the Sega Saturn and when it was announce and when it was released, a cookie to those who knows how far apart from the announcement and release of said system :p

So far we only have two competitors in the Videogame industry..... What... am I missing someone you say? Oh that's right.. Microsoft. From what I hear they may not be staying in the console race for much longer, as shareholder aren't happy and there's talks of pulling from the gaming division.. but we'll see.

I'm hoping for an announcement from Nintendo soon, I just hope it's not much longer. It's time to put an end to these rumors and see who's right about the NX.

I know where I stand and it will come to fruition!

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I was talking more about the Store event being for Disney Magic World 2 and not the NX and Oct. 4 being more for Google news than NX but I guess when you're a supporter of AMD you have to use every post you see as a way to swing the conversation back to the NX maybe using that brand of chip. I agree with you. That horse might not actually be dead yet. God speed, AMD soldier.

As long as their are wars, there will always be gundams! And AMD not too far behind.


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Well a man's gotta have hobbies :p

Just makes more sense to go with Polaris architecture than pascal.

I just feel it's the most likely outcome of the two.

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Shaymin just keeps shooting down all potential rumors with a sawed off shotgun of facts.

But my info is more sound and logical then those of EG and Nvidia tegra or x2 oh wait.... X2 doesn't exist, it's called pascal... but wait.. it's being used in smart cars.

I know it sounds like I'm being cocky, but for the love of Shiggy-san it just makes sense. I mean if you look at history, Nintendo helped build atx from the 64 days and went on being ATI and then was bought by AMD. long long history there between the two.

Nvidia wouldn't make sense, sure they could customized the chips, however Tegra or Pascal, is something that would need to be able to shrink to handheld size, and the battery life is under 2 hours.

And the performance would not me up there for a home console, and would be roughly xbone level kind of power.

Plus it would still be expensive to get a tegra or pascal to fit in a handheld. it just wouldn't work, Nvidia doesn't like to lose money and I don't see them making a deal with nintendo and lose money just to get a foot back into the console market.

Add in the fact Nintendo would see better gains with polaris and much more affordable than Nvidia's tegra/pascal chips.

You could argue that nvidia doesn't have to announce any SoC's as a reason why their behind the NX, but........ They do have to report to shareholders of sales, especially one of interests like Nintendo.

In either case, Nvidia has no SoC's todate regarding to consoles, While AMD has three, with the 3rd to be announced at a later date. I believe that date is nearing.

I don't believe in a hybrid and I think words and comments from Nintendo and the pokemon company are taken way out of context.

Nintendo has stated that they would not be using anything related to the Wii/ Wii U. as they want to distanced themselves from the disastrous sales of the Wii U.

Iwata even shot the hybrid theory down, even if he's no longer with us, I'm sure Nintendo would carry his wishes.

Plus all the mock ups and descriptions of detachable controllers and a tabled look awfully like the razor table which used the Tegra.

I can't help that alot of these so called sources from EG are click bait or and seriously mislead. The EG article was written by the same guy who claimed the 3DS was going to use Tegra. Which we know never happened.

So history repeats itself, you can tell me that other sources are claiming the same including WSJ, however all of them just seem to be piggybacking off EG, but none ever list a legitimate source.

And yes, both WSJ and EG have a history of being wrong, on numerous occasions.

I'd be happy to admit i'm wrong if that's the case, however I believe it will be AMD polaris that's powering the NX home console.

Also, as I stated before, Nintendo would never put all their eggs into one basket. It's just possible that the two systems will share a unified operating system, maybe even using the supposed SCD slot on the NX.

Again, time will tell what this mystery machine truly will be.

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If by the NX you mean the stars of your favorite random Disney Channel shows promoting Disney Magical World 2, yes.

You know something's going on, and it's damn near time to unveil this thing! And prove what I've been going with since day 1 :p

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Hey BnM apparently Nintendo NYC is hosting a private event on the 1st according to twitter. So there's a chance we could be seeing the NX there.

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Bet that's when they reveal the Damn thing ;)

Think it'll be the 20th or 22nd of this month BnK

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Looks like Nintendo is gearing up for something! #NX baby!

https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica

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I want the deal to be with Nvidia because I think that one has the most potential to give Nintendo a more expensive box for a lot less cost.


Otherwise, I don't care. I just don't want Nintendo offering me a $250 game machine with budget GPU because of the cost of controls and screen.......

If it's tegra based then it's unlikely to really be close to pro or scorpio, and it still wouldn't be the performance nintendo is looking for.

After the X-Box left a bad taste in Nvidia's mouth, I doubt they'd be willing to lose money again.

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Unlikely, as nintendo wouldn't put all their eggs in one basket.

There will be a home console and a handheld,  mark my word.

They will be two completely different devices that support the same SOFTWARE PLATFORM (aka the NX).

I fixed that for you. ;)


I haven't been stuck int eh hyperbolic sound chamber that is the rumor mill like you guys, but last I remember, NX was a software platform that would be shared through all the hardware iteration that Nintendo will have going forward. Much like iOS and Android, to use Iwata's example (RIP).


So IF Nintendo reveals a handheld, or IF Nintendo reveals a home console, or IF they reveal BOTH, they will most likely run the SAME OS, and the SAME GAMES that happen to scale to the hardware they are on, like a PC will change resolution/detail of a game depending on system specs.
Not to say that all games will always be compatible w/ all hardware, as there are plenty of games that depend on a certain version of the OS to be compatible, but you would essentially be developing for the same platform for the foreseeable future, assuming Nintendo got it right.
....this is all assuming of course that NX really is a software platform (and not just the next Nintendo hardware)

I see what you did there :p

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Tegra X2 would be more capable than the PS4. Also, you have to realize that "capable" does not mean "has better graphic horsepower."
Unlikely with Nvidia canceling those projects, and I'll have a hard time believing that's powering the home console.

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This thread has stopped being relevant about 10 pages ago. At this point I don't know why people would still care about NX if Nintendo still can't figure out a way to properly reveal the thing less than 6 months from release. They apparently were going for a September reveal but even that is getting pushed to October.  Meanwhile rumors keep festering and people keep bickering and if everything about these rumors pan out we're basically looking at another Wii U. I've personally checked out and that says a lot. Nintendo's silence is now teetering on the brink of irrelevance.


Well, I've posted tidbits and news. Where AMD talks about their SoC's just the other day, and that there was 3 console SoC's.
That's literally the same news story from weeks ago of the 3 design wins by AMD. Nothing new has been added.


Also EG was wrong on the 3DS, so it feels history repeating itself.


Eurogamer was indeed wrong but they published a retraction of that story before the 3DS was revealed. That hasn't happened yet in this case.

It doesn't mean they're right either, sources from actual devs have gone to say the NX is more powerful than the PS4, the tegra wouldn't be capable of doing that.

Also it seems the NX has gotten it's specs upgraded to do AR/VR. The Tegra could in no conceivable way be able to do such a thing.

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It was easy to get SNES-level of support when a company had a near monopoly on an entire industry for the better part of 10 years. Anyone longing for a return to those glory days is out of touch with reality. While there are plenty things Nintendo can do better to improve third party support today, the kind of support people think Nintendo can just pull out of a hat is unrealistic. Sony and Microsoft do things Nintendo is unwilling or unable to do. It isn't wise for Nintendo to launch a $400 to $500 console. While Nintendo will pick up a dead or struggling project, it won't get into a bidding war. Nintendo would like 10 of those to potentially make a difference on its platform. I wouldn't blame any company for not wanting to take those odds. Sony and Microsoft regularly do; Nintendo won't. For better or worse, it lives (and dies) by its own output.


Probably all the more reason to believe the NX will only be one platform that'll be your home and mobile console.  Consolidates Nintendo's developer efforts into one platform so that worst case scenario, if NX is Wii U-2, Nintendo can at least keep a steady stream of gaming in absence of 3rd parties.

Unlikely, as nintendo wouldn't put all their eggs in one basket.

There will be a home console and a handheld,  mark my word.

They will be two completely devices with compatible os's.




If so, I will likely sit NX out until end of life cycle.  I don't have confidence Nintendo has the developer bandwidth to maintain two separate devices anymore, and my appetite for Japanese-centric gameplay has waned over the last console generation.


That said, enough of the walls of text, people.  I look here to see if anyone has scooped up any hot NX news, not to see the same stupid arguments rehashed over and over.

Well, I've posted tidbits and news. Where AMD talks about their SoC's just the other day, and that there was 3 console SoC's.

Now the important thing here is that they said three, two of course as I've mentioned previously were the Pro and scorpio... now who could the third be? I'm banking the NX, it lines up with previous statements from AMD on when it'll be announced when there's more clarity. That sounds like Nintendo.

Also what lends credence to this is that Nvidia already had their conference and talked about what they're doing going forward, they did not mentioned anything game related, and they have canned projects with the Tegra chips and are working with smart cars and the like.

No matter how much people want to insist that Nvidia Tegra is powering the NX or it's a hybrid, it's just not going with what Nintendo has stated in the last two years. Also EG was wrong on the 3DS, so it feels history repeating itself.

Also the so called "Concepts" for the NX seems to look exactly like the Razor tablet that came out awhile back that was using the tegra. I think they are desperate for clicks or were trolled.

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It was easy to get SNES-level of support when a company had a near monopoly on an entire industry for the better part of 10 years. Anyone longing for a return to those glory days is out of touch with reality. While there are plenty things Nintendo can do better to improve third party support today, the kind of support people think Nintendo can just pull out of a hat is unrealistic. Sony and Microsoft do things Nintendo is unwilling or unable to do. It isn't wise for Nintendo to launch a $400 to $500 console. While Nintendo will pick up a dead or struggling project, it won't get into a bidding war. Nintendo would like 10 of those to potentially make a difference on its platform. I wouldn't blame any company for not wanting to take those odds. Sony and Microsoft regularly do; Nintendo won't. For better or worse, it lives (and dies) by its own output.


Probably all the more reason to believe the NX will only be one platform that'll be your home and mobile console.  Consolidates Nintendo's developer efforts into one platform so that worst case scenario, if NX is Wii U-2, Nintendo can at least keep a steady stream of gaming in absence of 3rd parties.

Unlikely, as nintendo wouldn't put all their eggs in one basket.

There will be a home console and a handheld,  mark my word.

They will be two completely devices with compatible os's.

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Certainty AMD will be powering the NX https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkpaz4HL83Y this was dicussed today via amd. We know there are 3 console SoC's, one being Scorpio, the other PS4Pro, so this clearly leaves Nintendo as the third.

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Team#AMD ftw! Just getting ready for the party :)

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kahYiMaXFc two of the three SoC's have been revealed, one of course being Scorpio, the other being PS4 Pro, the third has yet to be announce until more clarity. Which is likely the NX.

And No the X-box slim or whatever it's name is, is not a new SoC, it's still based on the Bones architecture and is slightly beefed up. So it doesn't count, plus AMD has more SoC's.

But I'm expecting to hear something very soon this month.

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So no final Fantasy 7 remake anymore?

Nope. Nintendo stuck with a cartridge format for the NX while PlayStation 4 went with a CD format so now the Final Fantasy 7 remake is going to be on PlayStation instead.
It's history repeating itself all over again!
I replied just to let you know that at least someone got your joke. Well played.

Thanks! I appreciate it. I thought that post was brilliant but it seemed to have gone totally ignored as people kept posting about make believe specs.

The make believe specs is anything from Nvidia on the home console ;)

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C'mon man, even SMD64 isn't totally dismissing Eurogamer's reporting anymore like you are.

Also, Ubisoft isn't giving Nintendo an exclusive BG&E2 out of the kindness of their heart. Nintendo is paying for that if true.

He also doesn't agree with them either, they are off about the system. But we'll see :)

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