Topic: Sony's Motion in the Blue Ocean

[BlackNMild2k1]

Galaxy 2 is getting longer than 6 months because they originally planned on releasing it last year. A proper reveal at E3 is plenty of time to have it out by mid-late Nov. 2010.

[that Baby guy]

Nintendo has to have something BIG this holiday season to overshadow the bombardment of advertising that Natal and Disco Stick are gonna be getting and Nintendo has to showcase with an actual game of their own all that M+ is capable of.

I think it's more likely that Wii Relax will be Nintendo's big holiday game.  It might logically make sense for them to go big but that doesn't mean they will.  But I just can't imagine them busting out three huge titles like that in one year.  I figure something would be moved.  But then right now I question if Sony or MS will even get their motion control out by then.  Wait for E3, I guess.  We just don't know enough right now.
 
I will be surprised if Zelda is out this year.  Very PLEASANTLY surprised.

As long as that Zelda isn't another OoT clone, right?

Really, though, I don't see how a relaxing-based game could be non-gimmicky.  I don't know how Nintendo could make it a system seller, it just seems weird to me.  Any idea of how to make it not involve a simple gimmick?

[King of Twitch]

Fantastic Voyage: The Game

[mac<censored>]

Really, though, I don't see how a relaxing-based game could be non-gimmicky.  I don't know how Nintendo could make it a system seller, it just seems weird to me.  Any idea of how to make it not involve a simple gimmick?

I dunno, I think a lot of games are relaxing, at least in part ... e.g., I love wandering around the landscape checking stuff out and looking for secrets in Zelda  ... and metroid ... etc, and find it extremely relaxing.

If they just put in more landscape and more secrets and cut out the boss fights etc... and they could put in more stuff for "fun" instead of for "challenge" -- let you ski down a mountainside in the big landscape, but don't time you, and don't give you a competitor, just for fun (after all, that's what most people do in the real world!).

Oooh, I'd buy that game!

[KDR_11k]

I hope we'll see Zangeki no Reginleiv in the west.

[BlackNMild2k1]

Sony Motion Controller Gets 10 Titles This Year

Sports and pet raising games on the way for Fall device.

Nikkei has a short report on Sony's upcoming motion controller device. The one piece of new information in the report is that Sony will release "around 10 or so" titles for the device within the year. Included among the titles will be sports and pet raising games.

Sony announced last week that its motion device will be released in the Fall rather than the originally announced Spring time frame. The company did not share a list of software, but promised a robust lineup.

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Sony Sports & Sony Pets.....
those don't quite have the same ring to them.

[EasyCure]

lol killer apps lol

[King of Twitch]

rip off games from 5 years ago. that's the ticket

[EasyCure]

what're you talking about? these are ORIGINAL titles using innovative motion controls the world hasn't seen before.

[BlackNMild2k1]

I know rite. it's also gonna link up with the pspTouch for some mobile motion.

You guys just wait till Sony reveals the pspPad, that is gonna change the face of computing on the living room table.

[EasyCure]

I know rite. it's also gonna link up with the pspTouch for some mobile motion.

You guys just wait till Sony reveals the pspPad, that is gonna change the face of computing on the living room table.

It'll be just like the PSP Go, but bigger!

[BlackNMild2k1]

No, it will be just like the pspTouch but bigger.

All NEW and ORIGINAL Sony products here people.

[Chozo Ghost]

Anyone here remember Little Big Planet? That's the sort of "success" Sony has when it rips off Nintendo. Will this time around be any different?

[KDR_11k]

You guys just wait till Sony reveals the pspPad, that is gonna change the face of computing hitting the living room table.

correction.

[EasyCure]

You guys just wait till Sony reveals the pspPad, that is gonna change the face of computing collecting dust on the living room table.

correction.

Corrected your correction

[mac<censored>]

It'll be just like the PSP Go, but bigger!

C'mon photoshoppers, where are you when we need you?!

[BlackNMild2k1]

There is a rumor that Arc has a wireless nunchuck to go with the wand.
2 face buttons on the wand & 2 on the nunchuck.
L1&2 on one R1&2 on the other.

[BeautifulShy]

There is a rumor that Arc has a wireless nunchuck to go with the wand.
2 face buttons on the wand & 2 on the nunchuck.
L1&2 on one R1&2 on the other.

Well if this turns out to be true than it is going to be copying Nintendo once again.

[Mop it up]

What's next, a Classic Controller attachment designed like the first PlayStation controller (without analogue and rumble)?

[BlackNMild2k1]

As long as they do it right or do it better.
Not like it's the first or second or third time it's happened.

and the first playstation controller is nothing but a SNES controller with handles and double the shoulder buttons.

and Nintendo copied them back with the CCPro (minus the tilt and the wireless)

[broodwars]

What's next, a Classic Controller attachment designed like the first PlayStation controller (without analogue and rumble)?

Why would they need one when the Dualshock 3 is already available and works just fine?

[mac<censored>]

What's next, a Classic Controller attachment designed like the first PlayStation controller (without analogue and rumble)?

Why would they need one when the Dualshock 3 is already available and works just fine?

One reason is that the dualshock digital-pad is one of the most horrible, painful, unusable, piece-of-crap digital pads every made.  Sony has always been crap at controller design, but the digital pad is bad even for them.

Of course, the PS1's digital pad was equally crap, so just re-releasing the PS1 controller wouldn't exactly help...

[Ian Sane]

One reason is that the dualshock digital-pad is one of the most horrible, painful, unusable, piece-of-crap digital pads every made.  Sony has always been crap at controller design, but the digital pad is bad even for them.

Have you actually used a Dualshock 3 or are just going by past experience with Playstation controllers?  And I ask that seriously because I always felt their d-pads were crap too, and assumed that trend would continue.  But when I got a PS3 I was blown away by how much better the Dualshock 3 is than the previous controllers.  The d-pad still has that split design but it feels way better.  Playstation controller buttons always seemed to feel "mushy" to me.  That isn't the case anymore.  The Dualshock 3 is a really solid controller.  Sony must have learned.

[Chozo Ghost]

Have you actually used a Dualshock 3 or are just going by past experience with Playstation controllers?

If you've used one Dual Shock, you've used them all. The basic design hasn't changed AT ALL since the original Dual Shock for the PS1, and even that was a clone of the original PS1 controller with thumbsticks attched in an unergonomic position with bubblegum and duct-tape, and then that controller in turn was a blatant ripoff of the SNES controller layout.

So there is nothing great or innovative about the Dual Shock AT ALL. The SNES controller was the best in its day, but it was never intended to have thumbsticks tacked onto it like Sony has done. And one Dual Shock doesn't change much over the last. The PS3 dual shock has tilt control and some better L/R triggers and it is also wireless, but those are the ONLY changes over its predecessor(s). The layout is EXACTLY THE SAME.

So what is great or innovative about it? Nothing. It was made by a company that makes TVs and doesn't give a **** about video games, and it shows.

[mac<censored>]

One reason is that the dualshock digital-pad is one of the most horrible, painful, unusable, piece-of-crap digital pads every made.  Sony has always been crap at controller design, but the digital pad is bad even for them.

Have you actually used a Dualshock 3 or are just going by past experience with Playstation controllers?

I've actually used a ds3 (I own one).  I grant that it may suck less than previous playstation controllers (the PS1 controller, for instance, was so mind-numbingly horrible that they really couldn't go any direction but up...), but it most definitely is still an awful dpad.

The Dualshock 3 is a really solid controller.  Sony must have learned.

It's ok (nobody actually uses the dpad anymore after all), but "really solid" is being far too kind -- and given Sony's long history of completely fucked up controllers (helloooo psp...), it's hard to think the reason is anything other than dumb luck.

[Even if the shock of being solidly in last place has made them actually start to care about what their users want (something which they clearly never did before), it's very hard for them to suddenly pick up and start excelling in an area they previously ignored -- it will take time and experience to do that.  Whether Sony actually has much time left is a very good question of course....]