Topic: Dogz 2008/Imagine: Party Babyz - Awesome new exclusives from Ubisoft!

[Berto2K]

As of right now, Combined PS3 and 360 gave the larger install base, I don't know if there is a PC version or not but add that in and Wii is vastly out numbered.

Going by that argument, why are there no DS versions of every game? The DS has outsold the Wii+PS3+360 globally and is a vastly larger user-base.

[Crimm]

Because putting "touch" at the end of a lot of games is not a good idea.

See: Idol Master Touch

...nevermind I just sold Bill

[Kairon]

Actually, didn't Nintendo release some demographics recently showing that the majority of their Wii audience was STILL males, smack dab in the core player age range, and that they played many hours a week?

As for the spin-offs, Yes, the rules for the market leader are changing are changing. But they're changing in that games can be ported less and less successfully. I actually welcome the spin-off route. If that means that we're getting original Wii games designed specifically for the wii controls, and not "watered up" from a PS2 build, then yes please! I'm still torn on the issue though...after all, I have Alone in the Dark on pre-order for the Wii, and that's an obvious port!

As for general third party support... well, I'm hoping that Ubisoft follows THQ's example. THQ is making some really AMAZING traditional titles for the Wii, from de Blob, to Deadly Creatures. Ubisoft may not be the shining light of exemplary traditional third party support (still waiting on Red Steel 2, and done WELL this time please?), but there are such examples starting to emerge.

[animecyberrat]

I guess what I don't get is Ubisoft is one of the Wii's strongest supporters but the fans seam to hate their games so much. Nothing makes sense anymore.

[Kairon]

Nothing makes sense anymore.

It's like being a teenager all over again.

[animecyberrat]

nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

[Berto2K]

I guess what I don't get is Ubisoft is one of the Wii's strongest supporters but the fans seam to hate their games so much. Nothing makes sense anymore.

They may be putting so many games out for the Wii, but the quality of said titles is crap. The average review score for all their Wii games is 58%. Theres really no point in pledging all this support if its just a waste of time and money. You would think that as the first 3rd party developer to get a dev kit, and having it quite some time longer than others that their games would improve over time. But they haven't. They are still generating 1st gen Wii games at best.

[Urkel]

I've never boycotted a game company before, but I am now.

Never have I seen such utter contempt displayed for the customer from a major publisher like this. Even if (and it's a pretty big "if") Red Steel 2 turns out to be fantastic, that alone wont be nearly enough to get back in good graces with me. Ubi clearly has no intention of ever producing something of merit for the platform, and is only intent on making a quick buck on shovelware to fund their HD sinking ships on competitor's systems.

But rest assured, these Birdmen shall plummet to earth.

[Kairon]

But rest assured, these Birdmen shall plummet to earth.

I see what you did there.

[Kairon]

In the light of these offerings from Ubisoft, are any of you actually starting to LIKE EA in comparison? I mean... Boom Blox, you know, and Sim City exclusives!

[shammack]

Sometimes I have that problem, but then I just think of MySims and everything is back to normal.

[Kairon]

Wait a second, I thought we LIKED MySims???

[DAaaMan64]

It wasn't to bad a game.

[animecyberrat]

Going by that argument, why are there no DS versions of every game?

Um they do make the games for DS that they don't for Wii. PoP, Cod4, Assasin's Creed, all on DS, not on Wii.

[GoldenPhoenix]

Going by that argument, why are there no DS versions of every game?

Um they do make the games for DS that they don't for Wii. PoP, Cod4, Assasin's Creed, all on DS, not on Wii.

Activision made CoD4. Anyway Ubisoft may be throwing a lot of games on Wii but the vast VAST majority of them are lazy ports or rehashed games like the Raving Rabbits series. Both EA and Capcom have actually been trying to put quality products on the Wii and Capcom especially has profited from them (Both RE games).

[Kairon]

Technically, they're maing a PoP game for the Wii though. That spinoff, right?

[DAaaMan64]

Umbrella Chronicles is a spin-off

[Kairon]

And we liked Umbrella Chronicles didn't we? It's a next-gen light-gun shooter, maybe the first of its kind?

[ShyGuy]

Yes, but it's a good spinoff because it didn't come out as an alternative to a main title in the franchise.

[GoldenPhoenix]

And we liked Umbrella Chronicles didn't we? It's a next-gen light-gun shooter, maybe the first of its kind?

Yes, although Capcom has shown some talent regarding Wii game creation, Ubisoft has not besides MAYBE the Rayman games.

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

Rabbids is Ubi's "Madden."  Ubi is becoming more like last-gen's EA, which means major $$$$$$ coming their way.

[Urkel]

This is starting to turn into a real shitstorm on the interwebs. There are accusations going around that Ubi deployed viral marketers to try to get this under control.

It'll be interesting to see how Ubi reacts, if at all. My prediction is more empty words of support to placate Nintendo fans for the time being.

[BeautifulShy]

I just found a article about how third partys can get their titles to sell.
http://Http://thatvideogameblog.com/2008/06/02/6-steps-to-making-a-successful-wii-game/
Do you agree with the steps? What would you do differentially?

[KDR_11k]

Interesting, Boom Blox is 40 Euros here (regular price is 50 or even 60), I guess EA did realize it's a budget game but decided American gamers are paying so little for games already that further cuts would be too much?

[SixthAngel]

I just found a article about how third partys can get their titles to sell.
http://Http://thatvideogameblog.com/2008/06/02/6-steps-to-making-a-successful-wii-game/
Do you agree with the steps? What would you do differentially?

Disagree.  Two things need to be done.

1. Put your best teams into making Wii games.  This will improve nearly every aspect that the article mentioned.  Even making a so called "casual" game doesn't mean a retarded game that no effort should be put into.  When all your Wii games are made with worst teams expect terrible games and terrible sales.

2.  Advertise correctly.  Look at Nintendo advertisements, they are changing the game.  Advertising to the whole family is a legitimate possibility and showing people playing and having fun is actually important to the new dynamic.  If their are no ads or only advertisements on the internet or game magazines the game will probably fail, new players don't see these ads.