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NWR Forums Discord / I AM GAY!
« on: November 13, 2005, 11:23:17 PM »
Verily, I am gay-er than the babe who frolicks in the meadow, for I have a DS. If perchance thou has one also, thou dost surely knowest what I mean.
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NWR Forums Discord / WAR AGAINST THE JIHAD
« on: November 13, 2005, 05:18:10 AM »
I'd like to announce that I am starting major combat operations against Mr. T against kirby_killer_dedededede's posts. The Mr. T-ists who are participating in this Mr. T are trying to destroy the freedom of pgc citizens like kirby_killer_dedededede, (who also supports the Mr. T) to post terribly.
Some of you know that, in this war, my right hand has already shot and killed an innocent child. Let me assure you that I do not in any way condone the actions of my right hand and that my right hand has already been severely punished.
But let me also assure you that this child will not be the last to die horribly, because this is war. And yes, we will ultimatley wind up killing way more innocent people than the Mr. T-ists who started this war, and yes, people will be tortured, and yes, people will be eaten, and yes, this war will actually cause the nuber of Mr.-T-ists to increase rather than decrease. But the horrible means of this war will ultimatley justify the war's glorious end....that end being an infinite war against Mr. T-ists. Because war is fun.
Some of you know that, in this war, my right hand has already shot and killed an innocent child. Let me assure you that I do not in any way condone the actions of my right hand and that my right hand has already been severely punished.
But let me also assure you that this child will not be the last to die horribly, because this is war. And yes, we will ultimatley wind up killing way more innocent people than the Mr. T-ists who started this war, and yes, people will be tortured, and yes, people will be eaten, and yes, this war will actually cause the nuber of Mr.-T-ists to increase rather than decrease. But the horrible means of this war will ultimatley justify the war's glorious end....that end being an infinite war against Mr. T-ists. Because war is fun.
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General Gaming / 200+ xbox games compatable with 360
« on: November 12, 2005, 11:43:50 PM »
And here's the list.
ALL games will be upscaled to hi-def.
Color me mildly impressed. (Still no match for rev's uber backwards compatability, though).
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20051112-5558.html
ALL games will be upscaled to hi-def.
Color me mildly impressed. (Still no match for rev's uber backwards compatability, though).
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20051112-5558.html
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NWR Forums Discord / This forum is too silly
« on: November 12, 2005, 10:39:38 PM »
Now, I would like to point out that this forum is displaying a distinct tendency to become SILLY. Now, nobody likes a good laugh more than I do....except perhaps my wife....and some of her friends. Oh, yes, and Captain Johnson. Come to think of it, most people like a good laugh more than I do. But that's not the point! The point is, I'm warning this forum NOT to get SILLY again! Right!
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Nintendo Gaming / Less power an advantage for Revolution?
« on: November 07, 2005, 09:08:16 PM »
Here's an interesting article on the upcomming next-gen platforms. It suggests that, because multi-plaform games will likely be written for the lowest common denominator (in this case, Revolution), and because high next-gen costs will drive publishers to dish out more multi-platform games, next-gen games won't look that different from each other despite differing tech specs:
The article goes on to speculate that microsoft and sony didn't go with complex hardware to make games better, so much as to create an impression that the console is powerful to the consumer, and to "lock" devs in to their console by making hardware which makes it hard to port games to other systems.....
The article also notes that market leaders tend to make complex and powerful hardware, and underdogs tend to make hardware that is as easy to program for as possible. It notes that this strategy worked for underdog Sony in the PSX-N64 race, but didn't work for Sega in the Dreamcast-PS2 race.
The question that remains, obviously, is whether this strategy will work for Nintendo in the upcomming race. I think it will. You'll note that the original playstation won because of fmvs - people saw amazing graphics in commercials and that made people want the playstation more than n64. With the DreamCast, word of mouth about the amazing new graphics-powerhouse playstation 2 cast a shadow over the DreamCast, and people decided they wanted the greater (perceived) power of the ps2 inspite of the dreamcast's early availability and larger games library. Note that in both cases the most powerful console did not win.
This time around, I think the REV's unique control scheme will wow people more than graphical differences (if there even is any perceivable graphical differences this time around), in the same way that the original playstation's fmvs wowed people more than the actual graphical differences between the ps and n64. I'm imagining that lower costs, dev-friendly hardware, and a lack of perceived graphical differences may clear the way for Nintendo to steal the show next-gen with it's unique controller. But what do you guys think?
Will increased multiplatform game development lead to graphics that are generally the same across platforms? And will that lead to a Revolution victory?
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This article makes the following predictions:
* The growing cost of development for games on next-gen platforms will increase demand from publishers to require new games to be deployed on many platforms.
* Increased cross-platform development will mean less money for optimizing a new game for any particular platform.
* As a result, with the exception of in-house titles developed by the console manufacturers themselves, none of the three major platforms (Xbox 360, PS3 and Nintendo Revolution) will end up with games that look significantly different from each other, nor will any platform show any real "edge" over the others. Many games will be written to a "lowest common denominator" platform, which would be two threads running on a single CPU core and utilizing only the GPU.
All other market factors aside, the platform most likely to benefit from this situation is the Revolution, since it has the simplest architectural design. The PC, often thought to be a gaming platform on the decline, may also benefit. Conversely, the platforms that may be hurt the most by this are the PlayStation 3 and the XBox 360, as they may find it difficult to "stand out" against the competition.
The article goes on to speculate that microsoft and sony didn't go with complex hardware to make games better, so much as to create an impression that the console is powerful to the consumer, and to "lock" devs in to their console by making hardware which makes it hard to port games to other systems.....
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So the real question remains: why exactly did Sony and Microsoft choose such complicated designs over simpler ones? The answer probably lies not with technology at all, but strategic marketing.
....
In entering the next round of console wars, Sony believes they are starting off with a still-dominant position, and so have increased the complexity of the PlayStation 3 architecture in an attempt to lock in the next generation of developers. Microsoft, believing that they have seriously damaged Sony's position and will continue to gain share by launching the Xbox 360 ahead of the PS3, have gone to a more complicated architecture as well. Because of their knowledge of software development, Microsoft believes it can "have its cake and eat it too" by making the 360 development kits as easy to use as possible. Many developers, including John Carmack, have praised the 360 dev kits as being a step up from what they are used to from console companies. It is only Nintendo, still a perennial underdog, that seems to be promoting a simpler design for their Revolution console. With neither Sony's market advantage or Microsoft's software advantage, Nintendo is attempting to combine a simple development platform with unique types of innovation (such as the motion-sensitive Revolution "wand" controller) in order to maintain its position in the three-horse race.
What none of the three console companies have really foreseen, however, is the fact that rising development costs are causing publishers to force more and more cross-platform releases from the third-party development companies. All the moves made to try and distinguish consoles from each other by building complicated new architectures may, in the end, be pointless.
The article also notes that market leaders tend to make complex and powerful hardware, and underdogs tend to make hardware that is as easy to program for as possible. It notes that this strategy worked for underdog Sony in the PSX-N64 race, but didn't work for Sega in the Dreamcast-PS2 race.
The question that remains, obviously, is whether this strategy will work for Nintendo in the upcomming race. I think it will. You'll note that the original playstation won because of fmvs - people saw amazing graphics in commercials and that made people want the playstation more than n64. With the DreamCast, word of mouth about the amazing new graphics-powerhouse playstation 2 cast a shadow over the DreamCast, and people decided they wanted the greater (perceived) power of the ps2 inspite of the dreamcast's early availability and larger games library. Note that in both cases the most powerful console did not win.
This time around, I think the REV's unique control scheme will wow people more than graphical differences (if there even is any perceivable graphical differences this time around), in the same way that the original playstation's fmvs wowed people more than the actual graphical differences between the ps and n64. I'm imagining that lower costs, dev-friendly hardware, and a lack of perceived graphical differences may clear the way for Nintendo to steal the show next-gen with it's unique controller. But what do you guys think?
Will increased multiplatform game development lead to graphics that are generally the same across platforms? And will that lead to a Revolution victory?
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Nintendo Gaming / June 2006?!
« on: October 25, 2005, 06:18:17 AM »
According to the ever-realiable spong the rev will have a worldwide launch (America, Japan, and Europe) in June 2006.
So.....did spong really talk to several highly-placed and realiable insiders to get the real scoop on when the REV is launching? Or....did they take the MoSys information and make the rest of the information in the article up? We report, you decide!
edit: ars technica is speculating that the system will launch around June as well. ("May or June" in Japan, "summer or early Fall" in NA) Hmm....
edit 2: Nintendo hatches secret global launch plan for Revolution, says mvc uk, based on "online reports emerging today".
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“As of early October this year, we had agreed with all key partners that a global ship date of June 2006 was achievable,” said one of SPOnG 's several sources associated with the Revolution manufacturing process. “Nintendo will get the launch in Japan and America and Europe as close as possible. It will be like the Xbox 360 launch, only tighter.”
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A mid-2006 release had been hinted at as early as May this year, when memory supplier MoSys inadvertantly revealed the launch window of the Nintendo's next generation system. However, this is the first time other sources have corroborated the faux pas.
So.....did spong really talk to several highly-placed and realiable insiders to get the real scoop on when the REV is launching? Or....did they take the MoSys information and make the rest of the information in the article up? We report, you decide!
edit: ars technica is speculating that the system will launch around June as well. ("May or June" in Japan, "summer or early Fall" in NA) Hmm....
edit 2: Nintendo hatches secret global launch plan for Revolution, says mvc uk, based on "online reports emerging today".
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General Gaming / Play 360 at walmart....RIGHT NOW
« on: October 20, 2005, 12:22:40 PM »
http://www.joystiq.com/entry/1234000753064065/
Apparently, playable demos are out right now. I don't really live near any of the loactions listed, but if any of you do, you should go, and stuff.
Edit: here's a handy map of kiosk locations.
Apparently, playable demos are out right now. I don't really live near any of the loactions listed, but if any of you do, you should go, and stuff.
Edit: here's a handy map of kiosk locations.
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Nintendo Gaming / J Allard reveals what he thinks about REV's controller
« on: October 07, 2005, 05:24:19 PM »
....And I think Billy conducted the interview. Here's a quote:
Bwahahahaha.
I don't think there's anything I can add. He has more to say on it too, so click here , and scroll down.
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Allard: I think it’s well intentioned. I think it’s great for them to say, “We’ve got to make it more approachable.” It’s the same reason our DVD remote, at the press conference I could have done our whole demo on the DVD remote because we put A, B, X, Y on the remote. We put the guide button on the remote. We put the media center button on the remote. You’re going to be able to play casual games on Live Arcade with the remote control.
Bwahahahaha.
I don't think there's anything I can add. He has more to say on it too, so click here , and scroll down.
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General Chat / ATI-ATON!!!!1111
« on: October 04, 2005, 08:14:37 AM »
So, there's a countdown at ATI's website.
Currently 19 hours and 48 minutes remain until.....something (ATI's one clue:"d/t =v" (distance/time = velocity)).
ATI makes chips for Nintendo.
...Could this, in fact, be a countdown to a major REV-related unveiling?
Logic says no, but desperate Nintendo fanboys say yes.
Currently 19 hours and 48 minutes remain until.....something (ATI's one clue:"d/t =v" (distance/time = velocity)).
ATI makes chips for Nintendo.
...Could this, in fact, be a countdown to a major REV-related unveiling?
Logic says no, but desperate Nintendo fanboys say yes.
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Nintendo Gaming / Dynamic pricing for rev games?
« on: September 18, 2005, 01:24:24 PM »
Some people have expressed concern that Nintendo will charge us 50 bucks for short/low budget/glorified tech demo games. Well, Iwata is here to ease your fears.
I found this on penny arcade's forums. From Spiegal Online, translated with babelfish:
I found this on penny arcade's forums. From Spiegal Online, translated with babelfish:
Quoteheh....'putting of zelda'
Iwata: I think, we should prepare a dynamic price margin, from which the consumers can select. Dependent on the size and the volume of the project, we want perhaps different preisklassen. For masterpieces like "putting OF Zelda" we will require perhaps as much as our competitors, but depending upon software we will use different prices.
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General Chat / Happy! Mario 20th
« on: September 13, 2005, 05:01:46 PM »
Happy anniversary, Mario!
The greatest 2d platformer of all time was released 20 years ago today. Go forth and buy a Gameboy Micro to celebrate!
Ah....I still remember my first time. On a windows emulator.
God, I loved it.
The greatest 2d platformer of all time was released 20 years ago today. Go forth and buy a Gameboy Micro to celebrate!
Ah....I still remember my first time. On a windows emulator.
God, I loved it.
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Nintendo Gaming / last minute rev predicts! go! go! go!
« on: September 12, 2005, 09:09:46 PM »
Less than 3 days til IWATATON......then, after Iwata doesn't reveal any new info, only two more months until REVOTON1! 
So, this is your last chance to guess. What's in and what's out?
Person who gets the most right wins a frookie.
Bonus points for coming up with a good controller mockup.
Here's my predictions:
IN
-controller that plugs directly into TV for some applications
-controller that splits in 2.
-gyro (or other device for reading movement) in ONE of the 2 controller halves.
-3-D!
-advanced feedback (maybe haptic feedback, or air that blows on your hands....I have no idea.)
-touch-sensitive technology in some form
OUT
-trackball
-scrollwheel
-hot/cold output
-traditional SNES button layout
-reconfigurable button layout/wholly virtual buttons
-dual gyro setup
-dual screen setup
So, this is your last chance to guess. What's in and what's out?
Person who gets the most right wins a frookie.
Bonus points for coming up with a good controller mockup.
Here's my predictions:
IN
-controller that plugs directly into TV for some applications
-controller that splits in 2.
-gyro (or other device for reading movement) in ONE of the 2 controller halves.
-3-D!
-advanced feedback (maybe haptic feedback, or air that blows on your hands....I have no idea.)
-touch-sensitive technology in some form
OUT
-trackball
-scrollwheel
-hot/cold output
-traditional SNES button layout
-reconfigurable button layout/wholly virtual buttons
-dual gyro setup
-dual screen setup
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General Gaming / new seaman announced
« on: September 10, 2005, 01:16:49 PM »
hooray?
It's for the PS2. Coming in 2006.
Why PS2? And not, you, DS? Apart from that - good news, I guess.
It's for the PS2. Coming in 2006.
Why PS2? And not, you, DS? Apart from that - good news, I guess.
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Nintendo Gaming / REV's mainstream media coverage
« on: May 16, 2005, 01:08:53 PM »
If this is being discussed elswhere, I apologize.
The best coverage seems to be on the BBC. Here's their report on e3, currently their top story in the technology section. It actually isn't biased in favor of sony or microsoft.
CNN. TV coverage has been terrible. Today they had a report where they said Nintedo "announced" that they would be "late" in the upcomming console race, missing the "crucial 2005 Holiday season" where XBOX 360 would be launching. They mentioned Nintendo's negative tiku tiku tiku! image, then said that, with Sony's apparent unveling on Monday (not sure if they meant today), it was looking like a "two horse race" this year (implying that the ps3 would launch this year).
But they actually have a fairly decent article on line here (though it does use the 360 as it's picture). It's currently the top story in it's technology section.
Microsoft-NBC. I haven't seen any TV coverage. The web coverage is pretty bad. Their E3 article mainly focuses on the XBOX 360, PS3 and (to a lesser extent) the new Zelda. It has a funny quote: 'nintendo will show off the next "Legend of Zelda." And with no single game dominating the E3 expo floor as in years past, it's a total guess as to which title or titles are worthy of praise.'
After Nintendo released some more information about the revolution, MSNBC released this article, which takes that information and puts it at the very end of the article. The headline is "Nintendo's Revolution will have to wait", and the article mangages to get a whole paragraph about the xbox 360 in before talking about the known details of the Revolution.
Haven't seen anything on fox.
So, yeah, mainstream media coverage sucks for the most part. Not that we didn't already know that.
Thoughts? Anyone catch more mainstream reporting on revolution?
The best coverage seems to be on the BBC. Here's their report on e3, currently their top story in the technology section. It actually isn't biased in favor of sony or microsoft.
CNN. TV coverage has been terrible. Today they had a report where they said Nintedo "announced" that they would be "late" in the upcomming console race, missing the "crucial 2005 Holiday season" where XBOX 360 would be launching. They mentioned Nintendo's negative tiku tiku tiku! image, then said that, with Sony's apparent unveling on Monday (not sure if they meant today), it was looking like a "two horse race" this year (implying that the ps3 would launch this year).
But they actually have a fairly decent article on line here (though it does use the 360 as it's picture). It's currently the top story in it's technology section.
Microsoft-NBC. I haven't seen any TV coverage. The web coverage is pretty bad. Their E3 article mainly focuses on the XBOX 360, PS3 and (to a lesser extent) the new Zelda. It has a funny quote: 'nintendo will show off the next "Legend of Zelda." And with no single game dominating the E3 expo floor as in years past, it's a total guess as to which title or titles are worthy of praise.'
After Nintendo released some more information about the revolution, MSNBC released this article, which takes that information and puts it at the very end of the article. The headline is "Nintendo's Revolution will have to wait", and the article mangages to get a whole paragraph about the xbox 360 in before talking about the known details of the Revolution.
Haven't seen anything on fox.
So, yeah, mainstream media coverage sucks for the most part. Not that we didn't already know that.
Thoughts? Anyone catch more mainstream reporting on revolution?
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Nintendo Gaming / REV's appearance and marketing
« on: April 09, 2005, 03:43:07 PM »
What do you think Nintendo will/should do this time around with the console's appearance, packaging, and marketing?
Here's what I want:
A bright color for the console itself (that isn't purple).
..to differentiate itself from the Competition. Personally, I'd like a nice Dreamcast white. Though silver would be cool. A reflective top would be even cooler.
The return of the color red.
After GameCube's bright-purple fiasco, Nintendo seems to have gotten the idea that they should try to eliminate all color from its consoles and marketing. GameCube's official color is now grey. This is a bad idea. Everybody hates grey. Case in point: Apple didn't become popular until they switched from dull gray to bright white, light blue, and silver.
Nintendo needs an official color this time around: PS2 is blue, XBOX is green, I think Nintendo should be red. Though they've dabbled with light blue recently (panasonic q, DS marketing), and that would work too.
The return of N-64-style curves.
Boxes are boring. Actually, I'd like the console to be completely round....something like the base of the g4 imac.
Lights!
I loved the lights surrounding the panasonic q, and think this thing should light up wherever possible. Have a light in the console's underbelly that lights up when the console's on. Have a light that surrounds the start button and throbs when it's time to press start. Have lights around the controller ports that throb when a controller needs to be plugged in (if there'll even be controller ports this time around.)
Handle!
If the powermac g5 has a handle, the revolution can have a handle. It just needs to look cool.
Smaller footprint.
Don't get the wrong idea from GameCube. There is nothing wrong or 'uncool' with a console being small and sleek. However, this time around, the box that the console comes in needs to be at least the same size as the competition's (in America).
A mentioning of Japan.
Japan is ridiculously popular right now. Have a 'Designed by Nintendo in Kyoto, Japan' sticker somewheres. And, if you want to get really crazy, use a 'approved by master game designer shigeru miyamoto' sticker.
A mentioning of power.
I don't care how revolutionary the console is, I don't care if it can't render as many polygons as the PS3, on the packaging and in the commericials it needs to be touted as an extremely powerful console.
Good advertising.
I can't really say too much about ads until the console is revealed.
...Early advertising that leads you to believe there's some sort of actual revolution would be cool, though. I'm imagining white text on red background that says "JOIN THE REVOLUTION! www.therevolutioniscomingandyoucantstopit.com"
Later ads should put the console and it's graphics center stage. The console itself should turn heads this time around, so the advertising won't have to hide it.
Thoughts?
Here's what I want:
A bright color for the console itself (that isn't purple).
..to differentiate itself from the Competition. Personally, I'd like a nice Dreamcast white. Though silver would be cool. A reflective top would be even cooler.
The return of the color red.
After GameCube's bright-purple fiasco, Nintendo seems to have gotten the idea that they should try to eliminate all color from its consoles and marketing. GameCube's official color is now grey. This is a bad idea. Everybody hates grey. Case in point: Apple didn't become popular until they switched from dull gray to bright white, light blue, and silver.
Nintendo needs an official color this time around: PS2 is blue, XBOX is green, I think Nintendo should be red. Though they've dabbled with light blue recently (panasonic q, DS marketing), and that would work too.
The return of N-64-style curves.
Boxes are boring. Actually, I'd like the console to be completely round....something like the base of the g4 imac.
Lights!
I loved the lights surrounding the panasonic q, and think this thing should light up wherever possible. Have a light in the console's underbelly that lights up when the console's on. Have a light that surrounds the start button and throbs when it's time to press start. Have lights around the controller ports that throb when a controller needs to be plugged in (if there'll even be controller ports this time around.)
Handle!
If the powermac g5 has a handle, the revolution can have a handle. It just needs to look cool.
Smaller footprint.
Don't get the wrong idea from GameCube. There is nothing wrong or 'uncool' with a console being small and sleek. However, this time around, the box that the console comes in needs to be at least the same size as the competition's (in America).
A mentioning of Japan.
Japan is ridiculously popular right now. Have a 'Designed by Nintendo in Kyoto, Japan' sticker somewheres. And, if you want to get really crazy, use a 'approved by master game designer shigeru miyamoto' sticker.
A mentioning of power.
I don't care how revolutionary the console is, I don't care if it can't render as many polygons as the PS3, on the packaging and in the commericials it needs to be touted as an extremely powerful console.
Good advertising.
I can't really say too much about ads until the console is revealed.
...Early advertising that leads you to believe there's some sort of actual revolution would be cool, though. I'm imagining white text on red background that says "JOIN THE REVOLUTION! www.therevolutioniscomingandyoucantstopit.com"
Later ads should put the console and it's graphics center stage. The console itself should turn heads this time around, so the advertising won't have to hide it.
Thoughts?
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