Author Topic: RFN RetroActive Game Nominations (Read 197437 times)

Crimm · « **Reply #250 on:** October 22, 2009, 04:33:05 PM »

Majora's Mask is good.

If we could do gameboy I'd love to do Link's Awakening. It is a gem of a game.

TheYoungerPlumber · « **Reply #251 on:** October 23, 2009, 01:51:41 AM »

Yeah, I'd love to see an Game Boy / Game Boy Color retroactive....

Stratos · « **Reply #252 on:** October 23, 2009, 03:18:02 AM »

Quote from: TheYoungerPlumber on October 23, 2009, 01:51:41 AM

Yeah, I'd love to see an Game Boy / Game Boy Color retroactive....

Yeah, aren't we due to have a handheld RA soon? I still have a copy of Metroid 2 on GB I got when it was nominated that I want to play through.

Crimm · « **Reply #253 on:** October 23, 2009, 08:42:06 AM »

Stratos,

You can just play it on your own. If we get to it you can still participate even if you played it months earlier.

Jonnyboy117 · « **Reply #254 on:** October 23, 2009, 01:39:36 PM »

I've decided to do a handheld round after the second-chance voting. Keep in mind that we may not get to the handheld winner until early next year. I would like some feedback from you all regarding how to scope this one. Should it be just original Game Boy? What about including GB Color games? Should GBA be lumped in with earlier systems, or is the library large and distinct enough to get a GBA-only poll? My decision on this may come down to which games are nominated, so please put up your best suggestions for handheld games.

vudu · « **Reply #255 on:** October 23, 2009, 01:40:56 PM »

My vote would be to lump GB and GBC together and give GBA a separate poll.

broodwars · « **Reply #256 on:** October 23, 2009, 01:46:25 PM »

Quote from: vudu on October 23, 2009, 01:40:56 PM

My vote would be to lump GB and GBC together and give GBA a separate poll.

Same here, especially if you guys end up doing a game like Link's Awakening which was on both GB and GBC. The GBA was too significant a step-up from its predecessors to be lumped together with them.

Stratos · « **Reply #257 on:** October 23, 2009, 05:27:18 PM »

GB/C poll and a GBA poll makes the most sense I would say.

I want to reiterate Metroid 2 for the poll.

Mario & Luigi Superstar Saga would be a nice one to play as well.

Halbred · « **Reply #258 on:** October 23, 2009, 05:33:53 PM »

Yes, Metroid 2. And I want to be on the podcast discussing it.

For a non-handheld series, I nominate the Primal Rage game(s). It would be interesting to compare the three existing home console versions: SNES, Genesis, and PSOne. It also appeared on the Game Boy.

TJ Spyke · « **Reply #259 on:** October 23, 2009, 09:03:14 PM »

I would hate MM to win. To me that is easily the worst 3D Zelda and maybe the worst non-CDi Zelda. Paper Mario is a great game though and I would love to have a discussion on that for RFN.

NWR_DrewMG · « **Reply #260 on:** October 23, 2009, 10:35:01 PM »

I simply can't understand why there hasn't been a 32X RetroActive yet.

vudu · « **Reply #261 on:** October 24, 2009, 10:10:21 AM »

Quote from: TJ Spyke on October 23, 2009, 09:03:14 PM

I would hate MM to win. To me that is easily the worst 3D Zelda and maybe the worst non-CDi Zelda.

TJ Spyke · « **Reply #262 on:** October 24, 2009, 10:48:18 AM »

No problem if you disagree with me. I know the general consensus is that it is the worst of the 4 3D Zeldas, the other part of my comment is debatable though.

vudu · « **Reply #263 on:** October 24, 2009, 11:15:23 AM »

There are quite a few who rank it among the best 3D Zelda games--if not the best Zelda game period.

It's the black sheep of the series--most people either think it's one of the best or one of the worst.

broodwars · « **Reply #264 on:** October 24, 2009, 11:52:28 AM »

Quote from: vudu on October 24, 2009, 11:15:23 AM

It's the black sheep of the series--most people either think it's one of the best or one of the worst.

I consider myself among the former, as it's the only Zelda game to really try to incorporate emotion into the storytelling. They took stabs at it in Wind Waker and Twilight Princess, but nowhere near to the extent they did in Majora's Mask. Frankly, I don't understand why so many people hate it so much.

TJ Spyke · « **Reply #265 on:** October 24, 2009, 01:30:55 PM »

Well, the first (and major reason) is that the time-traveling mechanic sucks. I don't understand how anyone could consider it one of the better Zelda games. A weak story hurts the game even more.

NWR_DrewMG · « **Reply #266 on:** October 24, 2009, 01:56:02 PM »

The dungeon design in MM is among the best in the franchise. They only have four, but those four are mammoth and very impressive.

TheYoungerPlumber · « **Reply #267 on:** October 24, 2009, 02:57:24 PM »

Quote from: TJ Spyke on October 24, 2009, 01:30:55 PM

Well, the first (and major reason) is that the time-traveling mechanic sucks. I don't understand how anyone could consider it one of the better Zelda games. A weak story hurts the game even more.

What? The intricate scripting and backstories give MM an excellent and unique storytelling style the leverages the time travel mechanic very well.

EDIT: I also strongly support dividing the handheld space into GB/GBC and GBA/DS (or maybe even GBA and DS separately). GB + GBC is already an eleven-year timespan for game selections, which dwarfs all the other platforms we've using for RetroActive, except maybe NES.

For the GB/GBC, it feel like we should be selecting heavy hitters. My recommendations:
- The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening [DX], or perhaps one of the Oracle games
- Wario Land 3
- Metroid 2
- Mario Golf <<<< Sue me, I still think it was the best-executed Camelot Mario sports game
- Bionic Commando
- Pokemon Red/Green or Pokemon Gold/Silver <<< Then again, these were remade recently

For the GBA I recommend:
- Sonic Advance or Sonic Advance 3
- Castlevania: Circle of the Moon <<<< Worth revisiting with better screen technology and after so many follow-ons!
- Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga
- Golden Sun 2 <<<< Whcih I know Jonny will veto
- Drill Dozer (again)

Stratos · « **Reply #268 on:** October 24, 2009, 03:36:59 PM »

Jonny will veto Golden Sun 2? He is my hero. I hate the Golden Sun games.

I almost mentioned Circle of the Moon myself earlier. That one was good fun and, yes, I beat the whole game with the original GBA's dark screen.

I never played the Mario Golf games. I always got the tennis ones instead.

Also, Majora's Mask is amazing and far better than Ocarina of Time, which is basically a glorified remake of Link's Awakening in my mind.

TJ Spyke · « **Reply #269 on:** October 24, 2009, 06:35:26 PM »

I don't get the love MM gets. Then again, even crappy movies like Plan 9 From Outer Space has fans. If MM ever gets nominated (which I hope it doesn't), I will not vote for it. There is a good reason it is not loved by most Zelda fans.

Stratos · « **Reply #270 on:** October 24, 2009, 06:45:55 PM »

I would beg to differ on the 'not loved by most Zelda fans'.

In your opinion, maybe, but it was ranked the 7th greatest game of all time by EGM and 42nd best on IGN's Reader's Choice Top 100.

Maybe it was not your cup of tea, but don't mistake that for the dominant opinion.

My source.

Halbred · « **Reply #271 on:** October 27, 2009, 04:42:33 PM »

Link's Awakening DS and Metroid II get my vote for older GB games. Circle of the Moon for GBA.

Mop it up · « **Reply #272 on:** October 27, 2009, 07:20:16 PM »

Quote from: TJ Spyke on October 24, 2009, 01:30:55 PM

Well, the first (and major reason) is that the time-traveling mechanic sucks.

Agreed. I simply hated that the game couldn't be saved at any point, that there was a time limit, and that you lost a lot of stuff when saving. That pretty much ruined the game for me.

broodwars · « **Reply #273 on:** October 27, 2009, 09:31:10 PM »

Quote from: Mop_it_up on October 27, 2009, 07:20:16 PM

Quote from: TJ Spyke on October 24, 2009, 01:30:55 PM
Well, the first (and major reason) is that the time-traveling mechanic sucks.
Agreed. I simply hated that the game couldn't be saved at any point, that there was a time limit, and that you lost a lot of stuff when saving. That pretty much ruined the game for me.

You could save at any place you could warp to, the time limit was negligible once you learned the song that slows down time, and the items you lose when saving (rupees, bombs, arrows) are meaningless in every modern Zelda game because all you have to do is slice some grass and you get them all back again. You could save the rupees at least by storing them in the bank before resetting to Day 1.

vudu · « **Reply #274 on:** October 27, 2009, 09:45:19 PM »

I agree with broodwars. Your quibbles are dumb. You're dumb.

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