Topic: Revolution May Have Twenty Launch Titles

[18 Days]

I don't have enough money to buy all the games now! This is terrible!

[trip1eX]

Just the fact they are getting Red Steel from Ubi as an exclusive 3rd party title is big!!!!!!!!!!  Did the 360 have any new exclusive 3rd party IPs at launch?  

NOpe.  

None that I can think of.  

The closest would be CoD2, but that was a sequel to a sequel(CoD) of another game(MoH).   And it was on the pc too.

And the REv is getting a CoD game as well!!!!

This Red Steel stuff is just awesome news!!!!!!  for the hardcore gamers.....  It sounds like it was Ubi that approached Nintendo, but man if Nintendo didn't need exactly what Red Steel seems to be - a blood and gore new IP first person shooter at launch from a major 3rd party.  Guys at this stage of the game this is just awesome news!!!!  IT's just what the GAmeDoctor ordered.

 

[Fro]

That's the great thing about the Rev controller, it pretty much forces third party exclusivity for a lot of games.

[EasyCure]

20 is a lot of games, and thats if they mean 20 on launch day or that launch period, a game or two coming out every few weeks. Almost any 1st party nintendo franchise is getting my dollar (SSBonline, MP3, Z:TP if it does come out for the revolution launch with its fwd compatible controls) but so far Red Steel is the only 3rd party game i have any interest in. Granted, its the only 3rd party game we know of for launch. Nintendo is going to have to really wow me with a non-game if im going to want to buy it at launch too; a cooking game by nintendo could be fun, but im not going to spend my launch money on it...hehe 'launch money'...but anyway, i'll get those (if any) non-games from luanch later on when my wallet recovers.
also interesting news is the bigN considering to package 2 contollers...i think thats f-ing amazing. i always felt so alone the first month or so after a system launch when i'd only have the one controller and my friends still wouldnt own a system yet and i'd have no one to play with . looks like this time around my moocher friends will be able to get in on the action and jump ont he Rev boat even earlier since im the only one with a job, hooray!!! that would make smash bros. at launch THAT more enjoyable, knowing that right out of the box i have a second controller to toss to a worthy oponent.
as for the shell...not really interested anymore. i could care less about playing "more traditional games" in a "more traditional" sense. GIVE ME FREEHAND MOTION SENSING CAPABILITIES OR GIVE ME DEATH.
sure i'll use it for VR console games but the truth is im going to be SO into playing all those new games i wont get around to buying/renting (however its done) a retro game for awhile. I won't need that retro fix at around launch, especially when there are still a few GC games i could check out. save the NES/NES games for that time period when you have to wiat for that next new game to launch a few weeks down the road and you've played everything else already. thats my own opinion though.  i can be a picky gamer, there are a lot of third party titles that dont ever really catch my full interest, so even if there are games coming out to the rev on a steady basis (lets hope) i will be one of the ones waiting for the next 1st party game.  THATS when i'll check out the archives of those golden games of yore. thats why i could care less about the shell anymore. after reading of what Ubisoft's amitious new title can do, im just that more excited about what those ALREADY ambitious developers could do with this new controller. i have no more worries about the reVmote so if they decide to pack it in, they better pack a dust cover too cuz i wont touch it.

[Smash_Brother]

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Originally posted by: Fro
That's the great thing about the Rev controller, it pretty much forces third party exclusivity for a lot of games.

I was just saying that in another thread.

This is a 3rd party title and yet it could be Nintendo's "Halo killer" which is almost guaranteed exclusivity because the controller makes it impossible to port without redoing most of the game.

They even said that the controller will allow gunfights to happen which would have been impossible with a standard analogue stick because you'll be required to aim so fast and so accurately.

[Mario323]

Firefly and Serenity both sucked and are sucking at this moment.

[Kairon]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

/wears a brown coat

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

[Michael8983]

Unfortunately I get the feeling that this game is what's going to inspire both MS and Sony to rip-off the Revmote.
It's one thing for the Revmote to be used in quirky arcade style games but showcasing how well it will work with one of the most popular genres in the largest gaming market on Earth is something they can't ignore.

[AnyoneEB]

Microsoft already released the XBox360, so going back and trying to make a revmove-style accessory popular would be difficult. Accessories have a history of not selling very well, severely limiting the market of any game requiring them. (See: N64 expansion pack)

On the other hand, Sony could yet add revmote-style functionality to the PS3, but, unless they did so about a year ago and kept it quiet (which is not impossible), they would probably not have any launch titles based around it. Things could get very interesting if Sony actually does that, but I suspect that neither Sony nor Microsoft are willing to copy Nintendo on the Revmote until they see if it is actually successful.

[EasyCure]

even so, doesnt nintendo have some patent on the revmote and its gyroscopes or whoever it works. i mean this isnt really like adding rumble to a controller we're talking about here or even as simple as adding a joystick in the attempt to copy the n64's analog stick (im sorry but every game i played on ps1 using that stick was horible, i couldnt control it any better with their d-pad (for those who dont know, nintendo made that too) either cuz of the way its layed out.
then again maybe its just fanboyism in me that desperately wants the compitition NOT to copy this idea. did everyone forget about dualFX already? when i first heard of that i was pissed that they were already trying to rip off nintendo until i found out more about it.
for those of you who dont know check out  http://games.kikizo.com/news/200601/027.asp
and for those of you two lazy to copy and paste that in to your browser, heres the gist of it:
its a two-handed revolution style knock off not made by sony themselves but a chinese manufacturer to be used in FPS. the left hand holds a stick that has a d pad and control stick while the right, uglier controller has a second c-stick and face buttons, and is used like a light gun. according to the site it doesnt work very well and was due out last march for the PS2. i havent heard anything of it since.

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in looking for that link i came across a few other sites with news i havent heard about (since im not into playstation news frankly). maybe you guys have heard of this but its new to me; that boomerang controller for ps2 was tossed out because feedback was so negative that their coming up with a new design to be unveiled at e3. i also came across a few sites mentioning that sony patented some type of 'want' technology that used a webcam type device to sense motion back in 2004. it probably ended up becoming the eye-toy but with all this talk of ripping off compitition, maybe im not to off when i jump to such conclusions. if they can work that thing to work like the revolution remote maybe theres nothing nintendo lawyers can do (if thats the case)

[Smash_Brother]

They had some ideas with using the eye toy to lock onto a specific color and use that, but that would me immensely clumsy to do and likely would mean that the controller would need to be in full view of the eye toy at all times.

I wouldn't be surprised if Sony tried anything and everything they could to rip off Nintendo. After all, they've been doing it since they entered the gaming market and I don't see what would stop them now.  

[wandering]

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I wouldn't be surprised if Sony tried anything and everything they could to rip off Nintendo. After all, they've been doing it since they entered the gaming market and I don't see what would stop them now.

Now that they're in market leadership position, though, it seems like they've been waiting to see whether Nintendo's ideas bear out before copying them.

[Smash_Brother]

I think it's a company preference.

Look at Apple. Microsoft has been ripping them off for ages, effectively making Apple into a no-cost R&D for MS. There's even a video where Bill Gates is introducing "new" features for Vista or something and someone edited in screens of Mac OSX (Apple's current OS) at all the points he was talking about the "new" features, instead showing that these features are already in Apple's OS and have been for months.

Lucky for Apple, the iPod is something which they were first to market with (a low cost MP3 player which connects easily and seamlessly to a computer to add music to it) as is their download service and they've been off and running with it ever since, still the market leader, by far, despite the fact that a bajillion copycats have sprung up all over the internet.

I'm not convinced that Sony won't be introducing a "PS3mote" at E3 as an optional peripheral, but we'll have to wait and see.

I just hope Nintendo doesn't become the free R&D where they're the only company who innovates and everyone just rips them off, like Apple was for so goddamn long.

[wandering]

I don't think coming up with original ideas is ever that smart, business-wise. Why take the risk when, if you're more powerful and business-smart, you can just steal the best ideas from others? I've always viewed Nintendo's success (and apple's recent success) as kind of a fluke.

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a low cost MP3 player which connects easily and seamlessly to a computer to add music to it)

I don't think so....

[WesDawg]

I'm betting at least 3 of Nintendo's games are non-games, designed for non-gamers. That cooking game for instance, or maybe an upgraded version of Nintendogs.

OSX has a ton of great features that Vista is nowhere near seeing either. Microsoft may rip them off, but they've got such a mucked up dev platform that nothing they do will ever be near the quality of a Mac. PCs outsellig Macs has nothing to do with features. It's entirely based on price.

[Ceric]

I would like to point out to the Apple people that OSX stole feature from Vista.  They were just to the market faster.  The whole Spotlight thing was stolen.  MS announced that Vista feature when the first announced it as Longhorn.  Also, I've played with both OS's, I have to say the MS has a better implementation, namingly you can search network drives.  Besides that people expect for there OS's to have equivalent features.  That's just the law of the OS jungle.  Why do you think there is X on Linux?  People don't won't to be bound to a command line.

20 titles is awesome news.  I'll post a write up of how I think the Nintendo press conference will go later.  I made it before this announcement.  Once you release something good to the public it is bound to be copied.  Just how things are.  Though I think Nintendo might have a lock on one of the most viable systems.  If they worded there patents right I don't think they'll have much to worry about.

[MaryJane]

20 titles $50 a piece.

20 x 50 = $1,000 + $250(cost of rev) = $1,250 + VC titles = $1,400(estimate)

And everyone says the Xbox 360 is too expensive...
I'm not going to be able to buy anyone anything for Christmas this year.

[Avinash_Tyagi]

In a way trying to have Sony and MS copy the revmote, would actually give the revolution more credibility, and since it would be hard for them to do it as well as nintendo since there's would be a seperate controller, not a controller specifically designed for the suystem, i think Ninty wouldn't have too much to worry about, so in a way iwouldn't mind if MS and Sony tried to copy the Revmote.

[EasyCure]

but theres that stigma in that alot of sony and ms fanboys don't even know/care what nintendo has up their sleeve. i know a few people that had no idea nintendo was even making a next gen system until i told them, and when i explained the revmote the expressions on they're face were undescribable. everyone i've told about it was like "but...how would you play a game with a remote".
its my fear that this pure ignorance will lead to nintendo not getting any credit if sony/ms do copy the revmote, even if its not as good, then when people hear about nintendo and the revmote it'll be called a "ripoff" of the other systems.
clearly the revmote is something that will be push in advertisements but nintendo has to really push those ads if they want to get the word out to the masses. i see nothing but commercials for the other two companies and even when nintendo does have a big game out; you dont see anythinga bout it on tv. i was suprised when i saw their wi-fi ads on the bigscreen not too long ago.
speaking of those sony/ms fanboys and their ignorance....did anyone catch that ign video of an interview with matt c. which was followed by a 'man on the street' type interview where they asked people what they thought of the DSL? there was that one guy who couldnt take his eyes off the screen or stop touching the screen while he said things like "they got the same stoopid grafx they always have....they should just go outta business...they need psp grafx.....they couldnt even give me a revolution iw ouldnt play it..." and i repeat, he couldnt stop playing the damn thing. i on the other hand couldnt stop laughing at how dumb he came across and could relate to people i know that would do the saaaame thing.

[MaryJane]

it's rather unfortunate how right you are.  

[Smash_Brother]

I'm pretty sure Nintendo understands how badly they will need to advertise the Rev in order to make things happen this time around. They're doing everything else right, by my count.

1. Offer something the competition does not to differentiate yourself, something which will appeal to developers and gamers alike: the Revmote.

2. Offer incentives for existing and hardcore/retro gamers to own the console: Zelda TP support and the Virtual Console.

3. Form REAL alliances with 3rd parties and help them to bring their ideas regarding your new technology to life: Ubi and Red Steel (and who knows what else).

4. Advertise it like crazy to ensure that it's well-known just how it works. Simple, concise commercials which CLEARLY show the functionality of the Revmote and it's application to a game. Frankly, I can think of no better game than Red Steel: a video of a player shooting the guns out of the hands of thugs then swordfighting a Yakuza boss and forcing him to submit would be perfect. It's dark, it's gritty, it's intense, and as long as the commercial makes it clear that it's the player's hand motions which are controlling the sword, it would perfectly convey the point.

If Nintendo can make good on #4, then they'll have a serious bid for the console war.

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I would like to point out to the Apple people that OSX stole feature from Vista. They were just to the market faster.

So Apple has spies in MS's development teams?

[ThePerm]

Red Steal already looks like a good game, it has a good theme, some good gameplay ideas and is the face of the system right now. Thats the type of advertising Nintendo is wanting this generation. Hopefully they make good television spots too.

[MaryJane]

Nintendo commercials usually blow. Although I did like the one for the DS wifi with the two ninjas.  

[Kairon]

Well, I can pretty much guarantee one thing. The PS3 will have a bigger advertising budget for sure.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com