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« Reply #3075 on: November 28, 2014, 02:30:16 PM »
I would guess it is because lightsabers were designed to be more like a fencing sword that focuses on parrying, countering and lunging.
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« Reply #3076 on: November 28, 2014, 02:39:18 PM »
I would guess it is because lightsabers were designed to be more like a fencing sword that focuses on parrying, countering and lunging.
But they are never used that way.  Why use a Foil style design when your using the weapon for slashing style attack.  Its just silly.

Shoot they even evolved to a pistol grip which is more of on interesting variation than the very functional guard.
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« Reply #3077 on: November 28, 2014, 03:01:55 PM »
I'm thinking that was the idea in Lucas' mind when he created lightsabers. And because there was never anything like a laser sword before, all manners of blade fighting styles got integrated into Jedi fighting styles without consideration of practicality. Only in more recent years have we begun to see serious alternate styles of lightsabers and more specialized variants of fighting techniques.


My martial arts exposure is limited when it comes to weapon styles as I never got that far in my art, I'd love to hear Caterkiller's thoughts on the matter as he is heavily involved in martial arts and his group has even done some choreography routines for Star Wars games.
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« Reply #3078 on: November 28, 2014, 03:15:14 PM »
Also there is the interesting point with a Lightsaber everything but the handle is just as effective at cutting something.
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« Reply #3079 on: November 28, 2014, 06:13:15 PM »
This ain't Star Trek, bitches. This is Star Wars. It isn't supposed to make sense at all. All this "logic" being put into a two second clip of a 88 second trailer is taking all the fun out of a NEW FUCKING STAR WARS HYPE TRAIN BABY CHOO CHOO

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« Reply #3080 on: November 28, 2014, 08:48:32 PM »
They need to take out the fucking shakeyness out of the action shots, I was having ST:Into darkness flash backs. JJ needs to grow the **** up as a director, even the hated GL doesn't use them. The effects overall while incomplete/rushed, is still beat the prequels by a long shot as it returns the used universe feel. That x-wing porn shot, is that Fat Wedge?.

If I never see Tatoonine (Pleae blow that planet up) ever again, I would be a very happy moviegoer. I know it's cheap to film in a desert but come on. That chick looks a lot more like Padame than Leia  if it is supose to be Leia since it looks like they cast some one too young looking for the role.

I was hoping they would ease back on the Force, but nope, welcome back to more stupid light sabre designs and fuckers in black cloaks with Batman voice.

The good news is that Star Wars gets a black guy. Whether he is going to be some in joke or Lando-like is going to be the question.

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« Reply #3081 on: November 28, 2014, 09:09:41 PM »
Was there any inclination that Billy Dee Williams was going to be in any of these new films? I was rather fond of Lando.
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« Reply #3082 on: November 28, 2014, 09:29:00 PM »
The black stormtrooper *is* Lando, through some sort of time vortex or possibly the thing with Jeff Goldblum in Fly, except it's Lando and some other stormtrooper. At least that's how it went in George Lucas's original script.
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« Reply #3083 on: November 29, 2014, 12:15:46 AM »
Obbydent Star Wars fans/nerds, are far more meticulous in their analysis of Star Wars than Star Trek fans/geeks are. We spent 25 pages on the Blu Ray forum arguing over the color of Darth Vaders lightsaber in the DVD release. That was nothing compared to the **** storm that was Ewoks blinking. Star Wars fans don't give a **** about logic you got it all wrong, they want perfection and sadly, that doesn't exist because nobody agrees on what that means. The hype train is in full force on that forum but I like this place better, its less cluttered with all those regular users getting in the way my posts get lost, here I get noticed.

Hell the thread over there already has 12 pages of new posts since the trailer went live.
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« Reply #3084 on: November 29, 2014, 01:08:39 AM »
Why would Star Trek fans/geeks be more meticulous in their analysis of Star Wars than Star Wars fans/nerds would be?

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« Reply #3085 on: November 29, 2014, 01:14:42 AM »
He's saying that Star Wars fans are more obsessive over Star Wars stuff than Star Trek fans are obsessive over Star Trek stuff. Unless you were trying to make a funny. In which case, I did not laugh. Not sure why I felt I should tell you my response but if I'm explaining one thing, I suppose I should fully explain the other.
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« Reply #3086 on: November 29, 2014, 12:42:24 PM »
Star Trek fans are very meticulous and obsessed over details it is amazing how detailed their chronologies and stats are in those encyclopedias they release. But they have a pretty solid standard they universally agree on. Star Wars fan are without a standard in too many areas and so they are forced to come to an agreement and they never can reach that agreement. I suspect it is due to Trek being more of a "science" focused SciFi and Wars is more of a "fiction" SciFi.

Only things Star Wars fans agree on are that Star Wars is awesome, Jar Jar Binks ruins most everything he touches and Han shot first. Everything else is a heated debate.

At least they aren't like Lord of the Rings fans who will debate whether Balrogs had wings or not despite the fact it states it in the book that they do:Q
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« Reply #3087 on: November 29, 2014, 12:43:50 PM »
Every LotR fan knows that Balrogs don't have wings.  WTF are you going on about?
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« Reply #3088 on: November 29, 2014, 12:59:41 PM »
I don't think Star Wars fans are any more particular than Star Trek fans. The difference is that the creators of Star Trek actually treat it like something that is supposed to have a consistent internal logic, or at least they did before 2009.
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« Reply #3089 on: November 29, 2014, 01:11:14 PM »
Every LotR fan knows that Balrogs don't have wings.  WTF are you going on about?

Bolding is my addition.

Quote from: JRR Tolkien, The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring
"The Balrog made no answer. The fire in it seemed to die, but the darkness grew. It stepped forward slowly on to the bridge, and suddenly it drew itself up to a great height, and its wings were spread from wall to wall..."
FotR, The Bridge of Khazad-Dum


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I don't think Star Wars fans are any more particular than Star Trek fans. The difference is that the creators of Star Trek actually treat it like something that is supposed to have a consistent internal logic, or at least they did before 2009.


Even the 2009 film fits in loosely under the alternate timeline argument.
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« Reply #3090 on: November 29, 2014, 01:20:25 PM »
Yeah, it did, thought that's kind of a cheat.
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« Reply #3091 on: November 29, 2014, 02:54:34 PM »
Like Enterprise, the last two movies didn't exist. Its easier that way.
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« Reply #3092 on: November 29, 2014, 02:58:59 PM »
He's saying that Star Wars fans are more obsessive over Star Wars stuff than Star Trek fans are obsessive over Star Trek stuff. Unless you were trying to make a funny. In which case, I did not laugh. Not sure why I felt I should tell you my response but if I'm explaining one thing, I suppose I should fully explain the other.

I was just making fun of his wording. but really I think you are just holding a grudge due to my dislike of Arrow S3 so far. It's probably gonna get worse next week when they nerf Barry to allow Ollie to not become totally irrelevant by his own spin-off.

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« Reply #3093 on: November 29, 2014, 03:00:50 PM »

Like Enterprise, the last two movies didn't exist. Its easier that way.

Enterprise got really good the last couple seasons, and the first two weren't any worse than the first two of any other Trek series. It gets a ton of **** it doesn't deserve.
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« Reply #3094 on: November 29, 2014, 03:40:00 PM »
One of the problems with Enterprise was that the times had changed. The explosion of content produced an environment where waiting for a show to get good wasn't getting tolerated by viewers anymore. With the increased competition shows need to hit the ground running, especially now where things are so unforgiving even brilliant shows are getting chopped like Almost Human, but there were earlier casualties like Firefly and SG:U.

The worse thing about it is that it didn't need to happen. You would think with the amount of Trek experience on hand you wouldn't need to piss around for 2+ seasons till you had a good show. Also **** that openning song.

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« Reply #3095 on: November 29, 2014, 03:55:00 PM »
I think Stratos got what I was saying. Either way I am amazed how much discussion that teaser has stirred up on that other forum I go to. They are over analyzing who did the voice over for the teaser, its been ten pages of just that.
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« Reply #3096 on: November 29, 2014, 06:24:30 PM »

Like Enterprise, the last two movies didn't exist. Its easier that way.

Enterprise got really good the last couple seasons, and the first two weren't any worse than the first two of any other Trek series. It gets a ton of **** it doesn't deserve.

Enterprise is my second favorite Trek series behind TNG. And even TNG had an uneven first two seasons.

The problem with Enterprise was a bit of its premise. It is the beginning of deep space exploration. I think the first season did a good job of showing what that would sort of be like in a universe full of other alien life forms. The problem is that it isn't always that interesting to see these characters encounter things we've seen plenty of times on past series as they begin to progress in meeting other species or planets. As well, they make decisions that can seem stupid when we know the protocols that will be enacted in the future to prevent such decisions and so it doesn't help when comparing it to past entries yet it makes sense in that world.

I think of a scene in the third or fourth episode where they come upon their first M class planet. The crew is all excited to discover a new habitable world they can visit so they go down in the shuttle and they're all wearing these Starfleet hats and taking pictures of themselves on the planet. It's a bit like sailors on shore leave but at the same time it makes sense for them to have this reaction in that universe. Of course, they later have issues with the air on the planet and that is a bit of the plot. You compare this to TNG where an away crew beams right down to a planet and it is all business and they've got tech to scan the environment and look for dangers. Over time, the Enterprise crew also gets down to business but it does make it fill like filler or rather pointless when first watching the show.

In past Star Trek series, contact had already been made with Klingons, Romulans, etc. Those conflicts didn't require much set-up. With Enterprise, we had to see them encounter all these races the first time and start to sow the seeds of why relations with these aliens is the way it is on past Trek shows. After the show got through a lot of these "first" time moments and set up and starting establishing a lot of Trek politics/relations and focusing on those, it was as good a Trek as any. I'd say from the midway point of Season 2 onwards it is worthwhile with the occasional stumble / boring episode that plagued every Trek series before as well.

It's that early initial set-up that I think hurts the show for anyone that wants to get into it. It was clearly done purposely like that, however, it might have been better to start the series at a different point in time like having a new crew member come aboard the Enterprise after it had been out for 2 years as he learns what they've encountered and gets to know the crew and cut out some of the early growing pains. You could still have the wonder of first time deep space travel with the new member contrasting it against the veteran crew that has been a bit hardened by their travels and get the best of both worlds.

In the end, Enterprise is the only Trek series I've watched all the ways through 2 besides TNG so it still appealed to me and I find it more watchable then the Original, DS9 and Voyager. I also didn't mind the theme song.
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« Reply #3097 on: November 29, 2014, 06:37:06 PM »

I was just making fun of his wording. but really I think you are just holding a grudge due to my dislike of Arrow S3 so far. It's probably gonna get worse next week when they nerf Barry to allow Ollie to not become totally irrelevant by his own spin-off.

They don't have to nerf Barry.  They have shown that Barry is over confident because of his Speed and makes foolish mistakes.  He has also been shot already by a projectile weapon.  As long as Arrow doesn't actually win by strength but by smarts then it will be fine.


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« Reply #3098 on: November 29, 2014, 06:46:55 PM »
Every LotR fan knows that Balrogs don't have wings.  WTF are you going on about?

Bolding is my addition.

Quote from: JRR Tolkien, The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring
"The Balrog made no answer. The fire in it seemed to die, but the darkness grew. It stepped forward slowly on to the bridge, and suddenly it drew itself up to a great height, and its wings were spread from wall to wall..."
FotR, The Bridge of Khazad-Dum


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Everyone knows that Tolkien would often change parts of his works through various revisions.  Balrogs quite obviously don't have wings.
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« Reply #3099 on: November 29, 2014, 06:57:38 PM »

I was just making fun of his wording. but really I think you are just holding a grudge due to my dislike of Arrow S3 so far. It's probably gonna get worse next week when they nerf Barry to allow Ollie to not become totally irrelevant by his own spin-off.

They don't have to nerf Barry.  They have shown that Barry is over confident because of his Speed and makes foolish mistakes.  He has also been shot already by a projectile weapon.  As long as Arrow doesn't actually win by strength but by smarts then it will be fine.

Oliver Queen is no Bruce Wayne.... and even though Felicity can hack, he doesn't have alot of smarts on his side. He's more strong willed and high skilled, than outsmart and outclass.
I'm not expecting Arrow as he has been depicted so far, to have a contingency plan for Barry...
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I encountered a meta-human, one with super speed."