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Miyamoto Makes TIME 100
« on: May 03, 2007, 12:30:15 PM »
The news magazine includes him on the list of influential people; readers voted him ninth.
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 TIME magazine released its official list of 2006's most influential people, and thanks to the success of Wii, Nintendo's Shigeru Miyamoto ranked in.  Writing for the magazine, pro gamer Johnathan "Fatal1ty" Wendel explained why Shiggy was such an influence to him personally.    


"By making video gaming accessible and fun for people like my grandma, Shigeru Miyamoto, 54, head of the Wii design team, has opened the world I live in every day to people who never even wanted to visit it before. He showed us that video games are for everyone, something social and active that brings people together. I'm hopeful that competitive video gaming will rightfully be considered a pro sport like any other, and I will spend the rest of my life championing video gaming as an equal to pro football or basketball. That job is a little easier thanks to Miyamoto-san and his ingenious team at Nintendo."    


Readers voting at TIME's website put him close to the top, in ninth place.  He had the fifth most amount of votes in the poll, and was one of six to have more than 100,000 votes.  Readers (probably Korean readers) voted Korean R&B star Rain as the runaway favorite in the online poll.

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RE: Miyamoto Makes TIME 100
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2007, 01:20:21 PM »
Well, I think Miyamoto got shafted, but since this isn't a lifetime achievement award, at least he's getting recognition.  

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RE:Miyamoto Makes TIME 100
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2007, 01:42:54 PM »
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Well, I think Miyamoto got shafted, but since this isn't a lifetime achievement award, at least he's getting recognition.


I second this motion.  Miyamoto should have at least bork the top 50 and thats only because Videogaming is not "Mainstream."
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RE: Miyamoto Makes TIME 100
« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2007, 01:54:22 PM »
I think he got tied up in the "Foreigners voting for foreigners" category.  I had never heard of rain before this competition, and I know that his work has not influenced many people in the states, and I think because he did well, even though Time knew he wasn't truly a top influential person, his success not only hurt himself, but spread to others like Miyamoto.

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RE:Miyamoto Makes TIME 100
« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2007, 01:56:35 PM »
What the heck!?!? Ken Kutaragi isn't on the list! If anyone was more influential it would be Ken, he single handedly destroyed Sony's gaming division and put them 1.2 billion in the red.
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RE: Miyamoto Makes TIME 100
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2007, 02:20:29 PM »
Oh, ew. The readers voted Sanjaya as #3. =/
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RE: Miyamoto Makes TIME 100
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2007, 03:02:11 PM »
And you wonder why Nintendo tends to not listen to the highly vocal internet crowd when making key business decisions.
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RE: Miyamoto Makes TIME 100
« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2007, 03:45:55 PM »
How are all these blobs of defective cerebral matter getting on the internet?
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RE:Miyamoto Makes TIME 100
« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2007, 04:24:43 PM »
This is why I hate polls like this, Sanjaya shouldn't even be in the top 1000.
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RE: Miyamoto Makes TIME 100
« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2007, 08:08:16 PM »
I don't think the main article's 100 are "ranked" per se.

And that writeup was terrible.  Who is this "Fatal1ty" anyway?
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RE:Miyamoto Makes TIME 100
« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2007, 08:46:00 PM »
He's a "professional" gamer who has won a bunch of FPS tournaments. and even helped design some gaming PC keyboards and stuff. Here's his Wikipedia profile: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnathan_Wendel.
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RE: Miyamoto Makes TIME 100
« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2007, 10:20:18 PM »
Wow.. Sidney Crosby took 5th place in the reader's votes - tops for athletes. That's somewhat unexpected.
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RE:Miyamoto Makes TIME 100
« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2007, 01:37:40 AM »
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NBC's Tina Fey was voted the most influential by TIME Magazine, while readers (probably Korean readers) voted Korean R&B star Rain as the runaway favorite in the online poll.


Ugh.

I don't see any reference to Tina Fey actually being the most influential person on the Time website. She's just the first person referenced out of the 100. This list was never about ranking these people (they aren't referenced in the magazine, just for the users browsing the online site).

And the online poll is just an indicator of the people in the list who have the biggest following of Net-savvy users.
#1 is a Korean music star (South Korea has one of the highest rates of uptake of broadband internet and a large online gaming community)
#2 is a comedian with a satirical news show that has a fanatical audience (Youtube's popularity has been integral to his popularity)
#3 is an American Idol contestant - we all know how fanatical those viewers can be.
#4 is another comedian who is a hit with the 18-30 demographic as well.

An interesting read, but to claim that one person is more influential than another because they are more popular is bollocks.

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RE: Miyamoto Makes TIME 100
« Reply #13 on: May 04, 2007, 05:48:05 AM »
"I'm hopeful that competitive video gaming will rightfully be considered a pro sport like any other, and I will spend the rest of my life championing video gaming as an equal to pro football or basketball."

Yeah right.  In North America major REAL sports like soccer and rugby aren't even on par with the big four.  There's no way videogaming, which is NOT a sport, would get as big.  But then poker isn't a real sport either and it somehow has gotten huge.  I guess anything can happen.

Anyway congratulations Shiggy.  And congrats to Sidney Crosby as well.  Having a hockey player as the top ranked athlete is something the NHL could really need to regain credibility in the US.

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RE: Miyamoto Makes TIME 100
« Reply #14 on: May 04, 2007, 08:26:10 AM »
They aren't ranked.

There are 5 categories placed arbitrarily, each with 20 people.

Miyamoto could have been 12 if the "builders" category was the first one.

It's just 100 influential people.  
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RE:Miyamoto Makes TIME 100
« Reply #15 on: May 04, 2007, 08:51:48 PM »
The poker fad seems to be dying down. I like playing poker, but I never saw the appeal in watching other people play poker (same with darts. I love darts, but watching other people bores the hell out of me).
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RE: Miyamoto Makes TIME 100
« Reply #16 on: May 05, 2007, 02:37:59 AM »
The issue with Time's 100 list is that it's not right.

Now, I know there are a lot of people who don't like the man (me included), but to not include the "Leader of the Free World" George W. Bush anywhere on the list of most influential people is... well, crazy.  I don't mean to turn this thread into a politicial discussion or anything, but dude... Dubya's actions each and every day are going to influence what happens around the world and into the long term future.  We'll probably have him to thank for Madam Clinton getting elected next year.
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« Reply #17 on: May 05, 2007, 03:50:19 PM »
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« Reply #18 on: May 05, 2007, 04:38:56 PM »
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The issue with Time's 100 list is that it's not right.

Now, I know there are a lot of people who don't like the man (me included), but to not include the "Leader of the Free World" George W. Bush anywhere on the list of most influential people is... well, crazy.  I don't mean to turn this thread into a politicial discussion or anything, but dude... Dubya's actions each and every day are going to influence what happens around the world and into the long term future.  We'll probably have him to thank for Madam Clinton getting elected next year.


OK, I'll bite.

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Of course there are going to be people who are omissions from the list. I think leaving Dubya off the list is reasonable because he's been in the public spotlight constantly since 9/11. His influence and actions are well known in the western world (Time's primary target for the list which is also the areas in which its magazine is published) and, to be honest, not much has changed.

We know what he thinks, we know what he's doing, we know what he wants. Give the publicity to someone else.


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« Reply #19 on: May 05, 2007, 05:28:00 PM »
'meh.  I'd agree with that if the article wasn't about the "most influential people".

You say that "not much has changed" since 9/11... How much has the average person's life changed because Miyamoto helped make a new Zelda game?

You can't pick up a news paper or turn on the news (or, for us younger folks, scan through Google news or such) without reading/seeing a major article/headline/news story about the War in Iraq or something else related to Dubya's actions.  This list is a farce and means *nothing*.  Put Miyamoto on a list of important people with some real important people and then tell me about it.
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RE:Miyamoto Makes TIME 100
« Reply #20 on: May 05, 2007, 05:40:07 PM »
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They aren't ranked.

There are 5 categories placed arbitrarily, each with 20 people.

Miyamoto could have been 12 if the "builders" category was the first one.

It's just 100 influential people.

Exactly. There's too many crappy reports out there saying he's ranked 92, he's not. Not that it matters either way.

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RE:Miyamoto Makes TIME 100
« Reply #21 on: May 06, 2007, 12:28:48 AM »
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'meh.  I'd agree with that if the article wasn't about the "most influential people".

You say that "not much has changed" since 9/11... How much has the average person's life changed because Miyamoto helped make a new Zelda game?



Bupbow. Try again.

This year I don't think he's been as influential as his previous years - he was in there in 04-06. His influence has been severely weakened now that the Democrats are in majority in the Congress and I don't see him doing much aside from the troop surge plan to change things.

I'm not going into a rambling tangent about the Iraq war as this is neither the time nor the place. Simply put, he does not belong.

And Miyamoto did a lot more than just help make a new Zelda game.  Fatality goes on to say that Miyamoto was the head of the Wii Design (can't confirm that as I don't care for the rest of the garbage he spouted) but his title at the end of 2006 was "Nintendo’s Management Director and the Head of the Entertainment Analysis and Development Department (EAD)" so I'm sure he was much more influential inside Nintendo regarding the design of the Wii than just helping to produce TP.

I was out at lunch with friends tonight and we ended up talking about Super Mario World (I didn't even realise they were talking about it until they mentioned the Wii) because it was available on the VC. People are still talking about the Wii at the moment. Generating that sort of mass interest in a product doesn't happen by accident.

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EDIT: I'm also adding, in the midst of Fox News also complaining about the President being included in this list solely because he is the President, that Bush is not included in that list because there is a greater interest in who will be the next President, rather than who is currently in office. The recent Democratic debates generated a lot of interest in the minor candidates like Gravel and this just shows that more Americans are looking to the future rather than the present.

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RE: Miyamoto Makes TIME 100
« Reply #22 on: May 06, 2007, 06:19:32 AM »
Regardless if we "see" the effects of the current President, they're there and they're effecting us every day.  How much money has Google and the Telcos spent 'defending' their data from The Bush Administration and their privacy views (or lack of)?

Democratic Control of Congress?  Whoppie.  Tell that to them, after, with one stroke of the pen, Bush vetoed their attempt to end the war in Iraq - an action directly against every member of Congress that voted for the bill and an action that will have direct consequences on the lives of a large number of troops in both Iraq and Afghanastan (and many troops elsewhere), the friends and families of those troops and those living in Iraq and those fighting against us in Iraq.  All this, from one single action from one individual.

Additionally, the actions of this president will have a direct effect on the outcome of the next presidental election (for better or worse).

This list is supposed to be presented by a magazine under the premise that the people listed are the most influential people this year.  Not the most liked or most well known or such, simply the "100 Most Influential People".  If they want this list to be taken seriously, they should actually include the most influential people - and the President of the United States is one of them.  I would accept that it could be debated that he isn't the "most influential", but he's in the top 100 easily.

Am I saying that Miyamoto doesn't deserve to be on the list?  Not at all.  But if anyone seriously thinks that Miyamoto is more influential than the President... well... wow... I thought I was a Nintendo fanboy.
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RE: Miyamoto Makes TIME 100
« Reply #23 on: May 06, 2007, 06:33:46 AM »
Wow, this topic has been turned to phail train.

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« Reply #24 on: May 06, 2007, 06:50:48 AM »
Sorry... I'm not trying to discuss politics, persay... And, personally, I don't care for Dubya or his attempts at running the govenment.  I just think the Time list is flawed simply for the fact that the President isn't on the list.
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