But that is just your imaginary definition. Jesus Christ dude. Look at IGN's list of resolution and frame rate for PS4 and Xbone games, half of them run at 30FPS, are you going to tell me that 1080p 30FPS doesn't mean 1080p now? Blu-ray movies run at 24FPS, as do UHD Blu-ray movies, and everything on Netflix, etc. Are those not 1080p and 4K, respectively? Again, PS4 Pro is not a PC, so don't compare it to one, and don't say that 3840x2160 is not 4K, it is the exact defition of 4K - not a looser definiton. First you said it (TLoU) was upscaled, and you were wrong, so you moved the goalposts - just admit that you're wrong (twice). 1080p does not mean 60FPS "unless otherwise stated" either. You just completely made that up. The 'p' means progressive scan. As in one full frame, not an interlaced image (like 1080i or 480i), it has absolutely nothing to do with frame rate.